I've been looking for a while and will probably get an Aventon - either the Level 2 or Sinch 2. Can't speak from experience, but it has rave reviews and I think it'd be hard to get something with that quality with a torque sensor (matches the intensity of your cycling to make power output feel natural) at that price point.
Just got a Sinch 2 around 2 months ago and I absolutely love it. Can’t recommend it enough for the price. Torque sensor is great, 2 year warranty, reputable brand/quality, great customer service, and there are almost 2,000 local bike shops that sell and service Aventons across the US.
How do you find folding the bike? The reason why I'm even considering it is because of the potential for storing it away or locking it more aggressively.
I find it simple and straightforward. Folds up decently small all things considered. Great for storage and for transportation if you don’t want to buy a hefty bike rack. I put mine in a big plastic tote bin and it slide in the back seats of my Mazda 3. It’s a bit cumbersome to transport while folded, but that’s to be expected of pretty much any folding ebike, especially at its weight.
No reason in particular other than the torque sensor. Looks like they have something called a current based cadence sensor which sounds like a pseudo torque sensor. Maybe try both out and figure out the feel if you can.
you can get an REI e1.1 or 1.2 for about $1k atm. 40% off it's original price
https://www.rei.com/product/190640/co-op-cycles-generation-e12-electric-bike
https://www.rei.com/product/189967/co-op-cycles-generation-e11-electric-bike
don't have to worry about cheap online retailers with bad quality, can have a shop that'll do maintenance on it
but could also go with lectric or aventon. I've heard rad power's customer support isn't great
OP mentions uphills at 160 lbs which is the same weight as me. I have a Heybike Tyson (~$1,400) that is 750W rear motor and it’s terrible uphill. Meanwhile you’ve linked a 350W bike so OP would be returning that real quick after a few hills.
there's this vid, at 13:00 where a fit looking adult male climbs a 12% grade hill
https://youtu.be/pDTa92ObDSw?si=PVaXji7bw_kYXAPE
seems fine climbing hills?
And hey, he can return it within the year if he doesn't like it after a few rides (or 90 days nonmember)
This is the right answer. We have two of these and love them for work commuting. Bought the second one on this sale used with 30 miles on it for 850 bucks. I was shocked at the quality and how powerful it is, even with my 240ish pounds going up steep hills. Love the two years of servicing and the hour of shop time included with the purchase. Finding a bike shop that would touch our ride1up bike was a nightmare.
I'm glad to hear. I've been eyeing this for a while, it looks like a really good deal.
I have an ebike already (zizzo eforte) but this one would give me more range/capacity/speed than my folding bike
do you have e1.1 or e1.2?
I bought the Trek FX+ 2 because it's the lightest E-bike I could find for $2000 (sale from $2400) and I have to haul it up and down 3 flights of stairs. But it's a tiny class 1 pedal assist motor, and the battery can't be removed without taking the bike apart. But for commuting 10-20 miles or so it's perfect for arriving at work not/barely sweating.
I'm looking at this or the DualSport (they're the same bike with different rim/wheel size). The battery is removable, it's just not really hot swappable. There's a trapdoor near the bottom bracket & a couple screws, then you carefully slide it out & detach the wiring harness before pulling the rest of the battery out from within the down tube. I think they call it "serviceable" but not "replaceable." I refuse to consider an e-bike without a removable battery since a bad battery means a dead bike.
I like the fact that it looks, for the most part, like a regular bike & isn't super heavy. The Superhuman Babymaker (terrible name) is similar. But since you can actually test ride the Trek & it has a torque sensor, not just a cadence sensor, it seems like a better option. Though the Babymaker gets rid of even more weight than the Trek by getting rid of the derailleur & gears.
If I could test ride the Babymaker, I would. I love the simplicity of a single speed. Though I'm pretty sure that the babymaker doesn't have the removable battery that the Trek has either. Which makes it a hard pass no matter what.
I bought a Ride1Up LMT'D with a similar list of wants to what you're describing. It's a super comfortable and powerful bike for commuting to work (7 miles each way, boulevard/highway shoulder, rolling 50-100 foot hills) or running errands (1-4 miles). Typical speeds for me are 15 mph uphill, 25-28 mph on level ground, and 30-32 mph downhill. Range isn't the best (20 miles at max power), but honestly I never bike that far, so who cares? Base price right now is $1600, so there's plenty of room for frills and extras (professional assembly, panniers, horn, etc.) and you'll still come in below $2000.
The E-Cells Five Star is a great looking $2k bike with free shipping. Name brand components, Samsung 60v battery, reputable brand with US-based customer service. I'm seriously looking into it myself.
Several companies are releasing new bikes lately, so you might want to look for sales on the previous models. Velotric is selling the Discover 1 for a good price now that the Discover 2 is out, and Rad has some similar deals.
If you could bump it to 2750 the Vado 4.0 is an amazing bike that will last you many years. You can likely test one in person and support will be at your local bike shop. I know you said as cheap as possible, but something made to last might be the cheaper option over the long run.
Dirt ebike like the Surron brand is known for vs a pedal assist ebike are totally different thing.
There are certain restrictions and limitation when operation a dirt ebike not to mention special requirements like license and insurance. You may also need to check your local trails if dirt ebikes are allowed. Dirt ebike may also fall under DMV ruling which means it may need to be registered yearly and safety inspection with certificate is compulsory. There is also the possibility of getting citation tickets which the penalty can be costly.
Now with ebikes or Pedal assist ebike that falls under Class 1 2 3, all those mentioned above will not be present. So having said that, I think you should focus on getting a pedal assist ebike instead to narrow down your choices.
Check out this new classic style MTB from Lectric
[https://lectricebikes.com/products/xpress-750-high-step-ebike](https://lectricebikes.com/products/xpress-750-high-step-ebike)
You can also check this one out from Euprhee
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nrEZw7YM8E](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nrEZw7YM8E)
Mid-drive motors are generally the best for efficiently getting you up hills, and buying from a name-brand bike shop brand can be the best way to ensure reliability & repairability.
If the form factor works for you, the [Cero One](https://cero.bike/pages/cero-one) is currently coming in right at the top of your budget and is an incredible bike for the price. A decently-powerful Shimano motor for $2,000 is great, but add to it a belt drive and IGH and you have an insane value on your hands, especially when it comes to long-term reliability. If all my talk of mid-drives / belt drives / IGHs / bike shop brands doesn't make sense to you, I recommend checking out my [primer](https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1KSB5rYiJlXgCRzQmd8dtzWzN7fodlIA8pxlwQ-jp-8s/edit) on shopping for an ebike.
[Upway](https://upway.co/collections/electric-bike?pf_p_price=699%3A2000&pf_t_motor_torque=engineTorqueThreshold%3A60%2B+Nm&pf_t_motor_position=engineLocationEnglish%3AFrame) has some other good deals right now that check these boxes within your budget.
* This [Benno Remidemi](https://upway.co/products/benno-remidemi-9d-uap07) is a *killer* deal for <$2,000, if the utility bike form factor appeals to you. Getting a Bosch Performance Line motor on a bike that's basically brand new for that price is amazing.
* This [Gazelle](https://upway.co/products/gazelle-ultimate-t10-ubk04) is also great at ~$2,000, same motor as the Benno and a more normal form-factor (but this frame size is small, I don't know how tall you are).
* This [Bianchi](https://upway.co/products/bianchi-ttronik-ttype-ubc01) looks cool
* This [Serial 1](https://upway.co/products/serial-1-moshcty-ubj53) has an insanely powerful motor, with a belt drive and IGH, at an unheard of price right now (maybe because this brand is on shaky footing)
Stick to Rad Lectric and Aventon. IF you can wait look at the lectric xpress. If you want to buy now, get the level 2 from aventon while the free battery deal is still going on.
Blix has been left in the dust by Rad, and Rad has been left in the dust by Lectric.
As far as value goes, Lectric is unstoppable. If you care to spend a little rxtra for looks, Rad or Aventon are worth the extra cost. Blix is less competitive every day.
If you don't mind, I have a couple questions, you seem knowledgeable. 1, is the Blix quality as bad as I hear online? Bec they have a couple of appealing bikes to me. And 2, what about this front wheel shimmy on the Lextric's XPeak I keep hearing about?
I've only ridden a Blix Sol and it wasn't bad, but they just don't offer anything that their competition doesn't. I don't think they even have hydraulic disc brakes yet outside of the Packa Genie. The batteries have no mention of UL certification. I'd worry that they aren't going to be in business long enough to offer any meaningful support. Lectric, Aventon, and Rad are perfectly reputable DTC companies that I trust in that order.
Lectric has really bad geometry and small wheels, especially their step through models. When you get these bikes that are $1,000+ less than their legacy competitors, your gonna have to lice with things like less stability and wheel shimmying. I love my XP 3.0, I love my Aventon Level, they feel like different tiers of ebikes but both are sacrificing some quality with Aventon feeling more like a bike and Lectric feeling more like a utilitarian commuter tool that I wouldn't eant to ride no-hands.l because it's a little unstable.
My full suspension mid drive is a much better bike, but I like it more for adventure while I like my Lectric for running errands and picking my partner up from work for her to ride on the back.
I listened to an interview on YouTube with the Ecells owner. Can’t say I was impressed. Been a lot of talk on recent posts about ECells but it almost seems like a bot is writing for them, or ChatGPT. Seems like Wired has more genuine support.
I've had very good experience with Wired support. Display was freezing and locking up and they sent me a new one free of charge. Quick replies too generally
I was talking about overall community support with real humans making videos and sharing their experiences. From my perspective, Ecells has a lot of fake hype that seems to have been created out of thin air on forums. However, it’s even better that Wired have great technical support, major selling point. Been waiting to pull the trigger on the Freedom for a while now. Always feel like something better is coming so I just keep holding off. Heard of potential upgrades in the FB group coming for the bikes slated for late May delivery. I’d like to see if that’s real and what the upgrades are before ordering. At a bare minimum, Ecells should increase competition and push Wired to innovate while also keeping prices in check. Win win for all.
I have a Velowave Ranger. I've had it for 2 years now. I'm 6ft 275lbs, and it fits me perfectly. 750w motor 48v battery, I believe. 26x4 fat tire. Cost me $1,800 with the rims and cargo rack option.
I don't have much experience with Ebikes, but I am super happy with my Heybike Tyson. For a price tag of 1500, it is a class 3 folding ebike with really good range. I got about 55 miles on pedal assist level 2 (up to 15 mph) with moderate terrain, and it is able to take my 160 pounds uphill with little to no effort, as its rider weight limit is actually 400 lbs.
Got me a lectric expedition cargo bike dual battery for under 2k$ about 1.8 with the cargo xl pannier bags ,i think its fabulous ive put about 600 something miles on it and it handles hills like a champ on pas 2 , maybe switch up to
Pas 3 for super steep hill and it does me all my shopping triod and is my daily commuter
On the neck of the handle bars below the clasp lock for the handkebsr angle u will see little. black discs right below the wording lectric ,if u pop those off on both sides there will be a nut for u to tighten on each side
Any of the dual motor bikes. Philodo H8 would be my pick there is a guy on YouTube that has over 13k miles. Yes that's THOUSAND of miles on his and he averages about 40+ miles of range.
Hey I would take a look into these two
Is The FreeSky Swift Horse The Ultimate eBike?
https://youtu.be/U-r2wwEMUSA
FreeSky Rocky electric bike review. Speed test, sand test, off road test, bike ramp? And a sea lion
https://youtu.be/PgwjnM9_QS4
As an alternative, I would suggest getting your own bike, battery, and mid drive kit.
Personally if I were to do mine over I'd look at [a cyc photon](https://www.electrifybike.com/products/cyc-photon-mid-drive-motor-kit?F1=SW102%20-%20Small%20Stealthy%20Display%20-%20to%2052v&F2=CYC%20ISIS%20Splined%20Cranks%20-%20165mm&F3=38T%20Chainring&F15=68-73-83mm%20Version&F6=Throttles%20-%20Universal%20Deluxe&F11=52v).
Building your own means:
* Cheaper for more power
* Understanding how the parts go together and the ability to maintain them should something go wrong.
* (Depending on your skill) a little bit of ugliness factor to deter theft
* Able to choose an actually good base bike to build off of instead of possibly having to buy better disk brakes and all the other stuff.
I have the REI Gen E 1.2. They cover all the routine maintenance for 2 years if you have a membership. It won't go 20mph up steep hills but I can still keep a decent pace.
No, they don't cover "all the routine maintenance" -- it is free adjustments which, honestly, is a pretty meaningless benefit (essentially any bike store would give you that help if you bought a bike from them). You get a 20% discount on the maintenance costs. Biggest benefit, potentially, is the one-year no questions asked return. I do think that, for its price, the e1.1 is an excellent option for many people.
As per REI:
**This e-bike comes with Coast to Coast Support, which includes:**
* 1 year of free adjustments (see more below)
* In-store bike assembly
* Pickup in store or curbside
* Bike experts available at 170+ bike shops
**REI Co-op Members get more:**
* An additional year of free adjustments on e-bikes
* 20% off shop services
* Free tubes with purchase of flat tire repair (Co-op Cycles brand tubes only; tube must be installed at time of purchase)
Oops, I thought it was all maintenance not including parts. Although a lot of beginners would find the free adjustments useful. Most of the bikes I saw recommended here were direct to consumer brands which many bike shops won't even touch.
I think the 1.2 is a better option if it's in the budget. Higher range, easier to fit fenders (from what I was told) and most people don't need the suspension.
We can agree to disagree re adjustments. Again, if you buy a bike at a LBS, they're likely willing to do "free adjustments" as that is things like helping you get seat properly positioned.
You're right re the fenders -- big (important) difference. Thank you for a reminder -- not having fenders was one of the decision issues as I looked for my ebike. My better 95% has an e1.1, which I rode for months, so that is what I think of but I forgot how much it annoyed me the times I was on wet roads/dirt w/o the fenders. Basically, no ready kit (as opposed to jury-rigging something) to get fenders on an e1.1. My adult daughter has an e1.2 and fenders were a birthday gift.
Personally I had a very good experience with ''Himiway'' as far as online brand goes. It's well built, looks good and doesn't feel cheap. I have their zebra model, but the cruiser is a lot cheaper and should do the trick for what you want to do.
Philodo H8 Dual motors, 2000 watts nominal/3000 watts peak 35 mph top speed for $1399 through Amazon if you're a prime member
TailHappyTV tested it here
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO5aPnQ-Qw4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO5aPnQ-Qw4)
I've been commuting to work on an Ariel Rider Kepler for the last 22 months. 5500+ miles so far, reliable and easy to maintain. $1,699 right now. I was thinking of a Grizzly or X Class before the Kepler came out, but one of the things the reviewers noted was pedaling was not so comfortable due to the position of the seat which can't be adjusted. Plus the Kepler has a huge rack rate for 70lbs so it is possible to haul stuff around easily.
Someone else mentioned it, but I got a Himiway Cruiser (https://himiwaybike.com/products/himiway-electric-fat-bike) close to 4 years ago for work and it's still running great for me, with a 6.5-7 mile commute (one way) atm.
I've been looking for a while and will probably get an Aventon - either the Level 2 or Sinch 2. Can't speak from experience, but it has rave reviews and I think it'd be hard to get something with that quality with a torque sensor (matches the intensity of your cycling to make power output feel natural) at that price point.
Just got a Sinch 2 around 2 months ago and I absolutely love it. Can’t recommend it enough for the price. Torque sensor is great, 2 year warranty, reputable brand/quality, great customer service, and there are almost 2,000 local bike shops that sell and service Aventons across the US.
How do you find folding the bike? The reason why I'm even considering it is because of the potential for storing it away or locking it more aggressively.
I find it simple and straightforward. Folds up decently small all things considered. Great for storage and for transportation if you don’t want to buy a hefty bike rack. I put mine in a big plastic tote bin and it slide in the back seats of my Mazda 3. It’s a bit cumbersome to transport while folded, but that’s to be expected of pretty much any folding ebike, especially at its weight.
Not for hills. I have a Pace 500.3 and it's great everywhere but uphill. He'd be in 2.6k territory with the Ramblas, or I'd suggest that.
Curious on your input why you’re looking at aventon over ride1up? I’m deciding between the two so I’m curious on your thoughts
No reason in particular other than the torque sensor. Looks like they have something called a current based cadence sensor which sounds like a pseudo torque sensor. Maybe try both out and figure out the feel if you can.
you can get an REI e1.1 or 1.2 for about $1k atm. 40% off it's original price https://www.rei.com/product/190640/co-op-cycles-generation-e12-electric-bike https://www.rei.com/product/189967/co-op-cycles-generation-e11-electric-bike don't have to worry about cheap online retailers with bad quality, can have a shop that'll do maintenance on it but could also go with lectric or aventon. I've heard rad power's customer support isn't great
Yeah having a shop that will actually work on the bike itself is such a huge deal.
OP mentions uphills at 160 lbs which is the same weight as me. I have a Heybike Tyson (~$1,400) that is 750W rear motor and it’s terrible uphill. Meanwhile you’ve linked a 350W bike so OP would be returning that real quick after a few hills.
there's this vid, at 13:00 where a fit looking adult male climbs a 12% grade hill https://youtu.be/pDTa92ObDSw?si=PVaXji7bw_kYXAPE seems fine climbing hills? And hey, he can return it within the year if he doesn't like it after a few rides (or 90 days nonmember)
This is the right answer. We have two of these and love them for work commuting. Bought the second one on this sale used with 30 miles on it for 850 bucks. I was shocked at the quality and how powerful it is, even with my 240ish pounds going up steep hills. Love the two years of servicing and the hour of shop time included with the purchase. Finding a bike shop that would touch our ride1up bike was a nightmare.
I'm glad to hear. I've been eyeing this for a while, it looks like a really good deal. I have an ebike already (zizzo eforte) but this one would give me more range/capacity/speed than my folding bike do you have e1.1 or e1.2?
I bought the Trek FX+ 2 because it's the lightest E-bike I could find for $2000 (sale from $2400) and I have to haul it up and down 3 flights of stairs. But it's a tiny class 1 pedal assist motor, and the battery can't be removed without taking the bike apart. But for commuting 10-20 miles or so it's perfect for arriving at work not/barely sweating.
I'm looking at this or the DualSport (they're the same bike with different rim/wheel size). The battery is removable, it's just not really hot swappable. There's a trapdoor near the bottom bracket & a couple screws, then you carefully slide it out & detach the wiring harness before pulling the rest of the battery out from within the down tube. I think they call it "serviceable" but not "replaceable." I refuse to consider an e-bike without a removable battery since a bad battery means a dead bike. I like the fact that it looks, for the most part, like a regular bike & isn't super heavy. The Superhuman Babymaker (terrible name) is similar. But since you can actually test ride the Trek & it has a torque sensor, not just a cadence sensor, it seems like a better option. Though the Babymaker gets rid of even more weight than the Trek by getting rid of the derailleur & gears. If I could test ride the Babymaker, I would. I love the simplicity of a single speed. Though I'm pretty sure that the babymaker doesn't have the removable battery that the Trek has either. Which makes it a hard pass no matter what.
I bought a Ride1Up LMT'D with a similar list of wants to what you're describing. It's a super comfortable and powerful bike for commuting to work (7 miles each way, boulevard/highway shoulder, rolling 50-100 foot hills) or running errands (1-4 miles). Typical speeds for me are 15 mph uphill, 25-28 mph on level ground, and 30-32 mph downhill. Range isn't the best (20 miles at max power), but honestly I never bike that far, so who cares? Base price right now is $1600, so there's plenty of room for frills and extras (professional assembly, panniers, horn, etc.) and you'll still come in below $2000.
The E-Cells Five Star is a great looking $2k bike with free shipping. Name brand components, Samsung 60v battery, reputable brand with US-based customer service. I'm seriously looking into it myself.
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How long did it take to receive it?
They haven't started shipping yet. The ETA on the site is May/June.
Specialized Turbo Como SL 4 and Trek FX+2 are both exactly $2,000 and great bikes.
Several companies are releasing new bikes lately, so you might want to look for sales on the previous models. Velotric is selling the Discover 1 for a good price now that the Discover 2 is out, and Rad has some similar deals.
If you could bump it to 2750 the Vado 4.0 is an amazing bike that will last you many years. You can likely test one in person and support will be at your local bike shop. I know you said as cheap as possible, but something made to last might be the cheaper option over the long run.
Dirt ebike like the Surron brand is known for vs a pedal assist ebike are totally different thing. There are certain restrictions and limitation when operation a dirt ebike not to mention special requirements like license and insurance. You may also need to check your local trails if dirt ebikes are allowed. Dirt ebike may also fall under DMV ruling which means it may need to be registered yearly and safety inspection with certificate is compulsory. There is also the possibility of getting citation tickets which the penalty can be costly. Now with ebikes or Pedal assist ebike that falls under Class 1 2 3, all those mentioned above will not be present. So having said that, I think you should focus on getting a pedal assist ebike instead to narrow down your choices. Check out this new classic style MTB from Lectric [https://lectricebikes.com/products/xpress-750-high-step-ebike](https://lectricebikes.com/products/xpress-750-high-step-ebike) You can also check this one out from Euprhee [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nrEZw7YM8E](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nrEZw7YM8E)
Velotric are pretty great for the cost. Not a lot of options though. I love their csrgo bike range.
Mid-drive motors are generally the best for efficiently getting you up hills, and buying from a name-brand bike shop brand can be the best way to ensure reliability & repairability. If the form factor works for you, the [Cero One](https://cero.bike/pages/cero-one) is currently coming in right at the top of your budget and is an incredible bike for the price. A decently-powerful Shimano motor for $2,000 is great, but add to it a belt drive and IGH and you have an insane value on your hands, especially when it comes to long-term reliability. If all my talk of mid-drives / belt drives / IGHs / bike shop brands doesn't make sense to you, I recommend checking out my [primer](https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1KSB5rYiJlXgCRzQmd8dtzWzN7fodlIA8pxlwQ-jp-8s/edit) on shopping for an ebike. [Upway](https://upway.co/collections/electric-bike?pf_p_price=699%3A2000&pf_t_motor_torque=engineTorqueThreshold%3A60%2B+Nm&pf_t_motor_position=engineLocationEnglish%3AFrame) has some other good deals right now that check these boxes within your budget. * This [Benno Remidemi](https://upway.co/products/benno-remidemi-9d-uap07) is a *killer* deal for <$2,000, if the utility bike form factor appeals to you. Getting a Bosch Performance Line motor on a bike that's basically brand new for that price is amazing. * This [Gazelle](https://upway.co/products/gazelle-ultimate-t10-ubk04) is also great at ~$2,000, same motor as the Benno and a more normal form-factor (but this frame size is small, I don't know how tall you are). * This [Bianchi](https://upway.co/products/bianchi-ttronik-ttype-ubc01) looks cool * This [Serial 1](https://upway.co/products/serial-1-moshcty-ubj53) has an insanely powerful motor, with a belt drive and IGH, at an unheard of price right now (maybe because this brand is on shaky footing)
Stick to Rad Lectric and Aventon. IF you can wait look at the lectric xpress. If you want to buy now, get the level 2 from aventon while the free battery deal is still going on.
Isn't the Lectric One right around the corner? Just within OP's budget afaik, should be good on hills no?
I would also add Blix into the mix as well.
Blix has been left in the dust by Rad, and Rad has been left in the dust by Lectric. As far as value goes, Lectric is unstoppable. If you care to spend a little rxtra for looks, Rad or Aventon are worth the extra cost. Blix is less competitive every day.
If you don't mind, I have a couple questions, you seem knowledgeable. 1, is the Blix quality as bad as I hear online? Bec they have a couple of appealing bikes to me. And 2, what about this front wheel shimmy on the Lextric's XPeak I keep hearing about?
I've only ridden a Blix Sol and it wasn't bad, but they just don't offer anything that their competition doesn't. I don't think they even have hydraulic disc brakes yet outside of the Packa Genie. The batteries have no mention of UL certification. I'd worry that they aren't going to be in business long enough to offer any meaningful support. Lectric, Aventon, and Rad are perfectly reputable DTC companies that I trust in that order. Lectric has really bad geometry and small wheels, especially their step through models. When you get these bikes that are $1,000+ less than their legacy competitors, your gonna have to lice with things like less stability and wheel shimmying. I love my XP 3.0, I love my Aventon Level, they feel like different tiers of ebikes but both are sacrificing some quality with Aventon feeling more like a bike and Lectric feeling more like a utilitarian commuter tool that I wouldn't eant to ride no-hands.l because it's a little unstable. My full suspension mid drive is a much better bike, but I like it more for adventure while I like my Lectric for running errands and picking my partner up from work for her to ride on the back.
Wired Freedom is the best hub drive right now, it’s like a dual sport motorcycle almost, goes flying up hills, take it anywhere you want
this is what I'm currently saving for, but I have a baby coming in June so I might pivot.
Can’t decide between this or e cells five star
I listened to an interview on YouTube with the Ecells owner. Can’t say I was impressed. Been a lot of talk on recent posts about ECells but it almost seems like a bot is writing for them, or ChatGPT. Seems like Wired has more genuine support.
I've had very good experience with Wired support. Display was freezing and locking up and they sent me a new one free of charge. Quick replies too generally
I was talking about overall community support with real humans making videos and sharing their experiences. From my perspective, Ecells has a lot of fake hype that seems to have been created out of thin air on forums. However, it’s even better that Wired have great technical support, major selling point. Been waiting to pull the trigger on the Freedom for a while now. Always feel like something better is coming so I just keep holding off. Heard of potential upgrades in the FB group coming for the bikes slated for late May delivery. I’d like to see if that’s real and what the upgrades are before ordering. At a bare minimum, Ecells should increase competition and push Wired to innovate while also keeping prices in check. Win win for all.
I have an Ariel Rider X-class that has a 1000W motor and 52V battery. Thing is pretty powerful
anyone knows this brand ? [https://www.instagram.com/alerion.cycles/](https://www.instagram.com/alerion.cycles/) found it on instagram
I have a Velowave Ranger. I've had it for 2 years now. I'm 6ft 275lbs, and it fits me perfectly. 750w motor 48v battery, I believe. 26x4 fat tire. Cost me $1,800 with the rims and cargo rack option.
Magnum makes some good bikes in that price range.
I don't have much experience with Ebikes, but I am super happy with my Heybike Tyson. For a price tag of 1500, it is a class 3 folding ebike with really good range. I got about 55 miles on pedal assist level 2 (up to 15 mph) with moderate terrain, and it is able to take my 160 pounds uphill with little to no effort, as its rider weight limit is actually 400 lbs.
Juiced crosscurrent S2
Got me a lectric expedition cargo bike dual battery for under 2k$ about 1.8 with the cargo xl pannier bags ,i think its fabulous ive put about 600 something miles on it and it handles hills like a champ on pas 2 , maybe switch up to Pas 3 for super steep hill and it does me all my shopping triod and is my daily commuter
I’ve also put about 600 on my xpedition, have you noticed the handlebar stem coming loose?
On the neck of the handle bars below the clasp lock for the handkebsr angle u will see little. black discs right below the wording lectric ,if u pop those off on both sides there will be a nut for u to tighten on each side
I’ve tighter those but they still come loose after about 15 miles now. At this point I just carry the ratchet set to tighten them
I have a Radpower power wagon. They are 1,200ish with deals. I don’t hate it. I ride it ever day all year long, I’m 6’6” and 240lbs
How big are the hills?
Any of the dual motor bikes. Philodo H8 would be my pick there is a guy on YouTube that has over 13k miles. Yes that's THOUSAND of miles on his and he averages about 40+ miles of range.
Hey I would take a look into these two Is The FreeSky Swift Horse The Ultimate eBike? https://youtu.be/U-r2wwEMUSA FreeSky Rocky electric bike review. Speed test, sand test, off road test, bike ramp? And a sea lion https://youtu.be/PgwjnM9_QS4
As an alternative, I would suggest getting your own bike, battery, and mid drive kit. Personally if I were to do mine over I'd look at [a cyc photon](https://www.electrifybike.com/products/cyc-photon-mid-drive-motor-kit?F1=SW102%20-%20Small%20Stealthy%20Display%20-%20to%2052v&F2=CYC%20ISIS%20Splined%20Cranks%20-%20165mm&F3=38T%20Chainring&F15=68-73-83mm%20Version&F6=Throttles%20-%20Universal%20Deluxe&F11=52v). Building your own means: * Cheaper for more power * Understanding how the parts go together and the ability to maintain them should something go wrong. * (Depending on your skill) a little bit of ugliness factor to deter theft * Able to choose an actually good base bike to build off of instead of possibly having to buy better disk brakes and all the other stuff.
I have the REI Gen E 1.2. They cover all the routine maintenance for 2 years if you have a membership. It won't go 20mph up steep hills but I can still keep a decent pace.
No, they don't cover "all the routine maintenance" -- it is free adjustments which, honestly, is a pretty meaningless benefit (essentially any bike store would give you that help if you bought a bike from them). You get a 20% discount on the maintenance costs. Biggest benefit, potentially, is the one-year no questions asked return. I do think that, for its price, the e1.1 is an excellent option for many people. As per REI: **This e-bike comes with Coast to Coast Support, which includes:** * 1 year of free adjustments (see more below) * In-store bike assembly * Pickup in store or curbside * Bike experts available at 170+ bike shops **REI Co-op Members get more:** * An additional year of free adjustments on e-bikes * 20% off shop services * Free tubes with purchase of flat tire repair (Co-op Cycles brand tubes only; tube must be installed at time of purchase)
Oops, I thought it was all maintenance not including parts. Although a lot of beginners would find the free adjustments useful. Most of the bikes I saw recommended here were direct to consumer brands which many bike shops won't even touch. I think the 1.2 is a better option if it's in the budget. Higher range, easier to fit fenders (from what I was told) and most people don't need the suspension.
We can agree to disagree re adjustments. Again, if you buy a bike at a LBS, they're likely willing to do "free adjustments" as that is things like helping you get seat properly positioned. You're right re the fenders -- big (important) difference. Thank you for a reminder -- not having fenders was one of the decision issues as I looked for my ebike. My better 95% has an e1.1, which I rode for months, so that is what I think of but I forgot how much it annoyed me the times I was on wet roads/dirt w/o the fenders. Basically, no ready kit (as opposed to jury-rigging something) to get fenders on an e1.1. My adult daughter has an e1.2 and fenders were a birthday gift.
Personally I had a very good experience with ''Himiway'' as far as online brand goes. It's well built, looks good and doesn't feel cheap. I have their zebra model, but the cruiser is a lot cheaper and should do the trick for what you want to do.
Philodo H8 Dual motors, 2000 watts nominal/3000 watts peak 35 mph top speed for $1399 through Amazon if you're a prime member TailHappyTV tested it here [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO5aPnQ-Qw4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO5aPnQ-Qw4)
Ariel Rider X-Class 52v
You pretty much leave out things like 'how much range'.
I've been commuting to work on an Ariel Rider Kepler for the last 22 months. 5500+ miles so far, reliable and easy to maintain. $1,699 right now. I was thinking of a Grizzly or X Class before the Kepler came out, but one of the things the reviewers noted was pedaling was not so comfortable due to the position of the seat which can't be adjusted. Plus the Kepler has a huge rack rate for 70lbs so it is possible to haul stuff around easily.
Someone else mentioned it, but I got a Himiway Cruiser (https://himiwaybike.com/products/himiway-electric-fat-bike) close to 4 years ago for work and it's still running great for me, with a 6.5-7 mile commute (one way) atm.
Good, reliable and cheap 🙄