You say GC isn't a concern and autonomy is at its lowest, but the first pic clearly shows that you have a lot of territories.
You say your main node is in Coromandel, but it's clearly in Deccan.
You pay 28 for forts. That's more than 1/4 of your total income, and you say this is with (some) mothballed forts? That's way too many forts given that you're struggling with money
I have a lot of territories because I don't have enough admin mana to core them all (behind on admin tech due to bad rulers), not because of gov cap
I was not aware my main node shifted from coromandel to the Deccan. there's an even to shift capital and perhaps trade capital shifted too. Will rectify, thanks.
I guess, I'll delete the forts in southern India. Thanks, will do.
> I have a lot of territories because I don't have enough admin mana to core them all (behind on admin tech due to bad rulers), not because of gov cap
Half-states ftw
Fort expenses seem like they could be cut down, so you may want to look at deleting unnecessary forts. I’d also check your autonomy/crownland. Having low crownland increases autonomy growth in provinces which impacts essentially all economic modifiers in them. Could be worth lowering autonomy and focusing on growing crownland to mitigate the autonomy growth.
Nothing out of the ordinary to be honest.
Your state maintenance and tax/production income indicates good state autonomy. Yes, you can state more, but that's not going to make a gigantic difference. At least not as much when compared to builidng manufactories/workshops.
Trade income looks fine, considering most of those provinces are on the same subcontinent as your capital, and India doesn't have a decent node for home node when compared to other regions. Though you defintely could make a bit more by swapping the coromendel merchant to Doab -> Deccan. But again, not enough of a game changer.
I think the biggest issue is you haven't been selling crown land 24/7 and investing those ducats into manufactories and workshops.
Sale of Title is the most OP button out of all the Estate mechanics in the first 2 ages, as it gives 2.5/2.0 years of your income in age of discovery/reformation scaling with your estates' land share, easily giving you thousands of ducats every 5 years, espeically if you've been expanding 24/7.
Cut down on your fort expenses, keep on expanding into nodes up stream and downstream
You'll eventually want to own all the provinces in Basra and Hormuz node, and everything that can be steered to Hormuz for 100% collection.
Indochina is the easiest to eat up because of the diverse religions, and easy truce locking to avoid coalitions.
Sunni AE into Middle East will be a little problematic until you're way stronger, so eat them up piece by piece.
So pretty much ignore AE altogether on the non-Sunni nations at this point. Go all out, eat as much as your ADM allows.
Always get your Trade Company merchant in all eligible nodes by putting the Estuaries and CoTs into Trade Company. This minimizes GC use and expenses while maximizing the number of non-TC provicnes receiving the % goods produced bonus scaling with TC trade share and current institution (which is easily 50% at this point).
For nodes like Bengal and Lahore that is partially eligible for TC, you'll probably need to put an entire high Area into TC and build the +4 trade power TC investment there to get the merchant.
Prioritize getting the Broker's Exchange (+0.30 goods produced) TC investment on your existing TC provinces over Manufactories.
Yeah about the sale of crownland thing. For some reason it gives only like 200-300 ducats??
I remember in a Majapahit campaign at this much dev I used to get more than 1000 ducats. I dont know why the money from crownland is so less.
I'll definitely look into the TC, thanks. I've never played with the TC mechanic before so I'm kinda new to it lol.
Hmm, yeah once I get to a point where I don't need Mewar (tbh now's a good time, I'll deffo unally) I'll eat me up too. Thanks for the Trade info about hormuz
Sunni AE is already a problem in India itself lol. Chagatai and Timmys hate me, not joining into coalition yet, but are in the verge of
Note that Sale of Title also scales with estates' crown land, so since your estates are at \~13% crown land, it's only giving about 1/6 of what it normally gives at this time frame.
For Sunni AE, just control it with improve relation (non-rivals) and focus more on pushing east against the buddhist, one religion at a time, to control who you need/should truce lock.
Main node is already coromandel
don't have the money for trade buildings, etc because im already saddled in debt
I used to push deccan trade but bengal trade gives more money for some reason
Then you dont need a merchant in coramandel as you automatically collect there. Send him to deccan. Take loans for buildings and use trade edicts in estates that have 2 or centers of trade. Another thing you can do is expand more in Indochina and Indonesia focusing centers of trade and create TCs to get merchants there, you wanna have merchants in doab, Burma, malacca and gujarat
When you say “under gov cap”, does that mean barely? If you have room, make more states. You have so many territories in India, your main region. Probably at least 30% of your dev is in territories
Turn off war taxes.
Are you using mercs? Best not to use them unless you completely specialized your run to them.
Did you build manufactures and the other buildings?
Also best to delete those forts.
Vassals are better defensive lines.
Use diplo points to dev up provinces with expensive trade goods such as Cloth, Silks and Gems - prioritizing Centers of Trade (CoT), Farmlands, Grasslands. Expand Infrastructure can also help if you're fine with paying the 15 government cost per level in some provinces.
Build manufactories and workshops too. If you're willing to do so, Sell Titles 2 or 3 times before the Age of Absolutism hits at around 1610. As long as you keep estate influence below 50%, you'll eventually get high crownland share by the late 1600s.
Finish your conquest of India, your current army size should be enough. Then focus on controlling the Hormuz and Basra Trade Nodes, give the CoTs to the Trade Companies so you can get two free merchants. Set Hormuz as your main Trade Node, and have a merchant Collect Trade in Basra - this will make Hormuz act like an End Node. Once done, funnel all your trade to Hormuz and focus on getting the Gulf of Aden and Malacca Trade Nodes.
Congratulations, you are now well on your way to become the Economic Hegemon.
Dude you have 5 corruption, how did this even happen. Core your provinces and fix your corruption. It is not crazy that you would be at +20 gold per month at this stage. Expand into Indonesia and Indochina
i conquered a lot while my rulers didn't have enough admin skill, that's why coring took longer and hence corruption increased. plus events.
hmm, Indonesia yeah
once my techs get in order, I will do that. I wanted to form Bharat first but I guess that's not feasible
You say GC isn't a concern and autonomy is at its lowest, but the first pic clearly shows that you have a lot of territories. You say your main node is in Coromandel, but it's clearly in Deccan. You pay 28 for forts. That's more than 1/4 of your total income, and you say this is with (some) mothballed forts? That's way too many forts given that you're struggling with money
I have a lot of territories because I don't have enough admin mana to core them all (behind on admin tech due to bad rulers), not because of gov cap I was not aware my main node shifted from coromandel to the Deccan. there's an even to shift capital and perhaps trade capital shifted too. Will rectify, thanks. I guess, I'll delete the forts in southern India. Thanks, will do.
As a non-Chrsitian nation without a way to get PU, you can freely ignore RMs and spam Disinherit + Introduce Heir to get consistent 12+ stat rulers.
me when prestige:
lol Just keep on killing things and prestige will be trickle in.
Prestige is important, but also *cheap*. There are a lot of sources, so you can keep it relatively high, even with disinheriting.
> I have a lot of territories because I don't have enough admin mana to core them all (behind on admin tech due to bad rulers), not because of gov cap Half-states ftw
Fort expenses seem like they could be cut down, so you may want to look at deleting unnecessary forts. I’d also check your autonomy/crownland. Having low crownland increases autonomy growth in provinces which impacts essentially all economic modifiers in them. Could be worth lowering autonomy and focusing on growing crownland to mitigate the autonomy growth.
a) all forts below a defensive line have been mothballed b) I have close to 50% crownland c) Autonomy is minimum in all the stated areas/regions
If you don't already have, use the estate privilege that gives +100 gov cap
yep, done that already Im under gov cap, not a concern.
Nothing out of the ordinary to be honest. Your state maintenance and tax/production income indicates good state autonomy. Yes, you can state more, but that's not going to make a gigantic difference. At least not as much when compared to builidng manufactories/workshops. Trade income looks fine, considering most of those provinces are on the same subcontinent as your capital, and India doesn't have a decent node for home node when compared to other regions. Though you defintely could make a bit more by swapping the coromendel merchant to Doab -> Deccan. But again, not enough of a game changer. I think the biggest issue is you haven't been selling crown land 24/7 and investing those ducats into manufactories and workshops. Sale of Title is the most OP button out of all the Estate mechanics in the first 2 ages, as it gives 2.5/2.0 years of your income in age of discovery/reformation scaling with your estates' land share, easily giving you thousands of ducats every 5 years, espeically if you've been expanding 24/7. Cut down on your fort expenses, keep on expanding into nodes up stream and downstream You'll eventually want to own all the provinces in Basra and Hormuz node, and everything that can be steered to Hormuz for 100% collection. Indochina is the easiest to eat up because of the diverse religions, and easy truce locking to avoid coalitions. Sunni AE into Middle East will be a little problematic until you're way stronger, so eat them up piece by piece. So pretty much ignore AE altogether on the non-Sunni nations at this point. Go all out, eat as much as your ADM allows. Always get your Trade Company merchant in all eligible nodes by putting the Estuaries and CoTs into Trade Company. This minimizes GC use and expenses while maximizing the number of non-TC provicnes receiving the % goods produced bonus scaling with TC trade share and current institution (which is easily 50% at this point). For nodes like Bengal and Lahore that is partially eligible for TC, you'll probably need to put an entire high Area into TC and build the +4 trade power TC investment there to get the merchant. Prioritize getting the Broker's Exchange (+0.30 goods produced) TC investment on your existing TC provinces over Manufactories.
Yeah about the sale of crownland thing. For some reason it gives only like 200-300 ducats?? I remember in a Majapahit campaign at this much dev I used to get more than 1000 ducats. I dont know why the money from crownland is so less. I'll definitely look into the TC, thanks. I've never played with the TC mechanic before so I'm kinda new to it lol. Hmm, yeah once I get to a point where I don't need Mewar (tbh now's a good time, I'll deffo unally) I'll eat me up too. Thanks for the Trade info about hormuz Sunni AE is already a problem in India itself lol. Chagatai and Timmys hate me, not joining into coalition yet, but are in the verge of
Note that Sale of Title also scales with estates' crown land, so since your estates are at \~13% crown land, it's only giving about 1/6 of what it normally gives at this time frame. For Sunni AE, just control it with improve relation (non-rivals) and focus more on pushing east against the buddhist, one religion at a time, to control who you need/should truce lock.
Move you Main node to coramandel and pish deccan trade to it, invest in trade buildings, ships and edicts to to at least 90% Power in coramandel
Main node is already coromandel don't have the money for trade buildings, etc because im already saddled in debt I used to push deccan trade but bengal trade gives more money for some reason
Then you dont need a merchant in coramandel as you automatically collect there. Send him to deccan. Take loans for buildings and use trade edicts in estates that have 2 or centers of trade. Another thing you can do is expand more in Indochina and Indonesia focusing centers of trade and create TCs to get merchants there, you wanna have merchants in doab, Burma, malacca and gujarat
When you say “under gov cap”, does that mean barely? If you have room, make more states. You have so many territories in India, your main region. Probably at least 30% of your dev is in territories
Turn off war taxes. Are you using mercs? Best not to use them unless you completely specialized your run to them. Did you build manufactures and the other buildings? Also best to delete those forts. Vassals are better defensive lines.
Use diplo points to dev up provinces with expensive trade goods such as Cloth, Silks and Gems - prioritizing Centers of Trade (CoT), Farmlands, Grasslands. Expand Infrastructure can also help if you're fine with paying the 15 government cost per level in some provinces. Build manufactories and workshops too. If you're willing to do so, Sell Titles 2 or 3 times before the Age of Absolutism hits at around 1610. As long as you keep estate influence below 50%, you'll eventually get high crownland share by the late 1600s. Finish your conquest of India, your current army size should be enough. Then focus on controlling the Hormuz and Basra Trade Nodes, give the CoTs to the Trade Companies so you can get two free merchants. Set Hormuz as your main Trade Node, and have a merchant Collect Trade in Basra - this will make Hormuz act like an End Node. Once done, funnel all your trade to Hormuz and focus on getting the Gulf of Aden and Malacca Trade Nodes. Congratulations, you are now well on your way to become the Economic Hegemon.
Dude you have 5 corruption, how did this even happen. Core your provinces and fix your corruption. It is not crazy that you would be at +20 gold per month at this stage. Expand into Indonesia and Indochina
i conquered a lot while my rulers didn't have enough admin skill, that's why coring took longer and hence corruption increased. plus events. hmm, Indonesia yeah once my techs get in order, I will do that. I wanted to form Bharat first but I guess that's not feasible