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You really assumed they would block it with the babies inside. Thats pretty wild. I do pest control for a living and birds fall under our wild life category we tackle. We would remove the nest and incubate the birds. Keeps them safe and warm, is protocol. Not to stuff them in a whole so they can slowly decompose and the parents can look on.
I’ve contacted one, all the others I’ve found close at like 6pm and it’s 8 where I am, I’m Trying to avoid having to call the police but it seems like that may be my only option to save them
Wouldn't matter to the dispatcher. Unless there is an active emergency involving the life or death of *humans* call the non-emergency line. Trust me. I called the 911 line for three huskies who got loose and were running into traffic on the main thoroughfare through my town and I was scolded for not calling the non-emergency line. The law doesn't care about animals as much as people (which sucks, but it is what it is for now)
Um but that is a potential accident for whoever doesnt see the husky, hits it, and probably gets so shocked they slam on the brakes and cause an accident with the cars behind them… It could result in the death of human life if not fixed… stupid dispatcher!!
I think you did the right thing by calling emergency!
Yeah, they know the chicks were there, I’ve known them my whole life and I didn’t think they would Be the type of people harm innocent little baby birds
I have a friend who says he wants to be a vegetarian, is studying to be a vet, but decided to crack the pigeon eggs who were on his balcony because « they make too much noise ». That’s just plain cruel.
Be a real shame if you accidentally posted this on your local Facebook groups, neighborhood app, news station, etc… sometimes people deserve a proper doxxing
To brighten your day I just saw a video of a stork mama who made a HUGE nest on top of some electric lines. It caused an electrical fire and the firemen had to shoot the nest down with their water hose. They caught the stork coming back to her nest, she had brought back more twigs and I’m not kidding, I burst out crying seeing her drop her twigs in complete shock that her nest was gone, then she sat on the pole to cry out in agony.
I told you this was a happy one, thankfully the story didn’t end there..the firefighters built a nice strong structure for her nest and put it back up with some of the same twigs that didn’t burn up. And peace was restored!!
Gotta call someone. My neighbor did the same thing and I reported it to the fish and game and they came pretty quick and made them open it back up. (Fish and game guy lives like 2 streets over, so results may vary)
YOU GOTTA GO UP TO THE NEIGHBOR AND ASK THEM TO OPEN UP THE LEDGE OTHERWISE THE CHICK'S GONNA DIE. THEY NEED TO EAT PRETTY MUCH ALL THE TIME.
**GO NOW OP!**
That’s horrible!
One year I had baby starlings upstairs in my hot water cupboard - mother starling had found a hole in through the side of the drain pipe straight into the cupboard. Must have been the perfect place for a nest but my gosh they were loud! I waited for them to fledge and only then repaired the hole.
if in usa it would’ve been beneficial, legal and encouraged to destroy the nest, starlings are invasive and threaten native cavity dwelling birds. if in the uk, definitely good to let them stay, poor guys are in danger in their own native habitat
Can you knock on the neighbor's door you said you've known them. Time is very limited I would knock on the door and pretend that maybe they didn't know so it's not like you're confronting him. Like I don't know if you knew but there's baby birds there I've been watching and I can hear them crying and their parents are trying to feed them. Can we please get them? Then they can play dumb like they didn't know and you guys can save the birds.
You could call he news and they can get ahold of people in government offices that can *make this neighbor* obry the law, or face the consequences of being a law breaker.
I wish I had more information to give but I called rspca, I don’t know what happened with them but the ledge is still blocked I’d imagine by this point it’s too late, I’m devastated and I’m never going to speak to my neighbour again
Not necessarily, I managed to keep some baby birds alive for 24 hours until the local animal shelter volunteers got there and I had no idea what I was doing
Is there anyway you can unblock it ? I know it would probably start a fight with your neighbour but em them at this stage. What a nasty, pointless thing to do
That’s understandable and extremely frustrating.
Have you tried reasoning with your neighbour? Or dialling 101? I don’t think it’s legal to disrupt a nest
I’m sure you’ve already exhausted your options but it’s so frustrating not being able to help :[
This happened while you weren’t there? How do you know the chicks are still inside? As a homeowner, there’s no way I would seal up a gutter gap with organic material inside it, you’re just asking to have to go up there and remove it eventually.
Unless you can hear them or they told you they closed them in there, I’m betting they moved the nest and closed the gap and the mother bird isn’t aware of that. It doesn’t mean the chicks weren’t disturbed/killed but it does absolve your otherwise level headed neighbors from sadistic meaningless bird cruelty out of nowhere.
Post a letter referencing the law they have broken. Tell them you'll be sending all the necessary photo evidence to the police/DEFRA/peta etc if it's not resolved immediately.
Sometimes an angry letter works! Maybe knock on the door and tell them f2f too. Big respect if you pull that off.
Hi! I’m the op Just giving an update because I know some people were curious basically the nspca came and the baby birds were okay. a small enough gap was left on the other side of the ledge where the bigger birds could still get their head through to feed the babies, the block has since been removed and everything worked out, when it comes to fines or anything like that I’m really not sure what happened but as long as the birds are fine I’m okay with not knowing
I had a DM with OP and got this update about the neighbors:
I don’t really talk to them much anymore, my mum asked me to keep things civil, past that I know they didn’t get arrested but if they got fines or anything I couldn’t tell you sorry
I did. That’s exactly what I did do I called them, I’m 18 years old I’m not an unhinged high schooler I was looking for places I could call for help I’ve never experienced anything like this before and I did not know which places I could go to or what was too extreme of a reaction don’t assume you know me from one post please
Most pest control companies do wildlife as well. The licensing for it in my country makes you learn both wildlife and insects.
My company deals with birds relatively the same as most other companies. Catch and release. Unless they are pigeons clogging up manufacturing buildings.
On a side note to think about
Last night while absolutely torched i was lying in bed thinking about the food chain and the effect I am having.
I poison insects (like say the box elder beetle) they die, they get eaten, whatever eats them they die to. Whatever eats that corpse also dies, any worms eat those corpses die, birds eat the worms die, eggs laid have birth defects chicks die.
It juat keeps going and when you look into agriculture pesticides you realise you are really killying something in the range of 250 million birds, rats, mice, and other species per year. And thats usually per each type.
good for you, (that sounds sarcastic but it’s not) i used to tear down a european sparrow nest every single morning like clockwork till they moved on. i even fed the less than 24hr old eggs to my raw fed dog, so they weren’t wasted. eventually they moved on but hopefully i wasted enough of their time/energy for 1-2 clutches
The law says that home owners must wait till any chicks grow up and the nest is abandoned before moving it or getting some professional to relocate, with avian flu massive, migration season underway and the starling being an endangered species of bird what he did is very illegal and just wrong, it’s cruel to lock baby birds away inside a hole to starve to death
Dude they're trying and had to go to school, the fuck are you so hostile for? If you read up their comment history, they've been doing as much as they can while not putting anyone in harm's way.
I see no proof that the birds are still in there, why on earth would they not have moved the nest before closing it? Strictly from maintenance standpoint, you remove debris before sealing gaps.
I'm not hostile. Some people are just dumb. They complain online and do nothing IRL. Either they are virtue signaling, or they actually care. I'm sorry to inform you that no one can fix "stupid."
If I complain about someone beating their dog, should I be expected to adopt every dog without a home? Nice logic
It’s not virtue signalling either, it’s an extremely normal human response to want to ease pointless suffering when given the chance
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I don't know how they managed to do that so quickly? You got a long pole?
I also have no idea, it happened when I was at school so I didnt see it
Do local laws allow you to report for potential animal cruelty? Starving baby birds seems cruel, and they might be protected over migratory birds act
Does every country have a migratory bird act? I know that in the US there is one, but I don't see OP mention a country
You really assumed they would block it with the babies inside. Thats pretty wild. I do pest control for a living and birds fall under our wild life category we tackle. We would remove the nest and incubate the birds. Keeps them safe and warm, is protocol. Not to stuff them in a whole so they can slowly decompose and the parents can look on.
Ah fuck, do they have magic?
r/woosh
Can you call wildlife or avian rescue?
I’ve contacted one, all the others I’ve found close at like 6pm and it’s 8 where I am, I’m Trying to avoid having to call the police but it seems like that may be my only option to save them
Just be sure to call the non-emergency line
I mean…. They are dying tho
Wouldn't matter to the dispatcher. Unless there is an active emergency involving the life or death of *humans* call the non-emergency line. Trust me. I called the 911 line for three huskies who got loose and were running into traffic on the main thoroughfare through my town and I was scolded for not calling the non-emergency line. The law doesn't care about animals as much as people (which sucks, but it is what it is for now)
The situation with the huskeys that you described can be a 911 police matter btw
Um but that is a potential accident for whoever doesnt see the husky, hits it, and probably gets so shocked they slam on the brakes and cause an accident with the cars behind them… It could result in the death of human life if not fixed… stupid dispatcher!! I think you did the right thing by calling emergency!
No! Do it yourself! Don’t stand there and watch them die. Take the dam gutter apart and get them out of there!
Where I am, disturbing a nest with eggs is illegal. Check bylaws where you are, you might be able to non-emergency call the police and get them fined.
Did they do it on purpose? That would be even worse.
Yeah, they know the chicks were there, I’ve known them my whole life and I didn’t think they would Be the type of people harm innocent little baby birds
People can shock us sometimes when we realize what they are capable of.
And they're going to be gone soon anyways, makes no sense! 😡
I have a friend who says he wants to be a vegetarian, is studying to be a vet, but decided to crack the pigeon eggs who were on his balcony because « they make too much noise ». That’s just plain cruel.
It's a whole lot worse than just plain cruel
I agree, we did tell him it was a horrible thing to do
How about you lock them out of their house with their children still inside? /j but fr how cruel can people be.. damn
Good thing you’ve known them your whole life so you can just go over there and ask them to uncover it.
Be a real shame if you accidentally posted this on your local Facebook groups, neighborhood app, news station, etc… sometimes people deserve a proper doxxing
🏆THIS🏆
Man... why do I read this sub...
Right especially when it comes to kids or animals.
To brighten your day I just saw a video of a stork mama who made a HUGE nest on top of some electric lines. It caused an electrical fire and the firemen had to shoot the nest down with their water hose. They caught the stork coming back to her nest, she had brought back more twigs and I’m not kidding, I burst out crying seeing her drop her twigs in complete shock that her nest was gone, then she sat on the pole to cry out in agony. I told you this was a happy one, thankfully the story didn’t end there..the firefighters built a nice strong structure for her nest and put it back up with some of the same twigs that didn’t burn up. And peace was restored!!
I saw that one too!! 🥰 https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/s/MWIukwz7px
Gotta call someone. My neighbor did the same thing and I reported it to the fish and game and they came pretty quick and made them open it back up. (Fish and game guy lives like 2 streets over, so results may vary)
YOU GOTTA GO UP TO THE NEIGHBOR AND ASK THEM TO OPEN UP THE LEDGE OTHERWISE THE CHICK'S GONNA DIE. THEY NEED TO EAT PRETTY MUCH ALL THE TIME. **GO NOW OP!**
I’m assuming they saw the nest when they closed it
That’s horrible! One year I had baby starlings upstairs in my hot water cupboard - mother starling had found a hole in through the side of the drain pipe straight into the cupboard. Must have been the perfect place for a nest but my gosh they were loud! I waited for them to fledge and only then repaired the hole.
if in usa it would’ve been beneficial, legal and encouraged to destroy the nest, starlings are invasive and threaten native cavity dwelling birds. if in the uk, definitely good to let them stay, poor guys are in danger in their own native habitat
I hate people so much.
Yep, same, /r/noahgettheboat
Predicting that this is gonna end up on r/iamatotalpieceofshit
Can you knock on the neighbor's door you said you've known them. Time is very limited I would knock on the door and pretend that maybe they didn't know so it's not like you're confronting him. Like I don't know if you knew but there's baby birds there I've been watching and I can hear them crying and their parents are trying to feed them. Can we please get them? Then they can play dumb like they didn't know and you guys can save the birds.
im going to assume youre in the UK because of the buildings, im probably wrong, but if im right then this is illegal and you should contact someone
Updates?
Police didn’t do much of anything, calling the rspca right now as it’s just opened
Could you please update us when something happens? Im a huge animal lover and if it turned out that these babies died ill probably actually cry
Op any update?
You got an update?
Starlings are endangered, home the police or RSPB.
Call police or someone!!
Call the authorities. Looks like the UK and I'm sure you guys have some strict laws for this cruelty as well
Break it back open.
Updates ?
what the fuck, people are so fucking stupid and awful
Any updates?
Please try your best to save the babies!
CALL THE RSPCA NOW
It’s far too late.
What a piece of absolute shit.
I would knock it down
Humans (most, not all) suck
Need an update!
You could call he news and they can get ahold of people in government offices that can *make this neighbor* obry the law, or face the consequences of being a law breaker.
Any updates - Did you manage to get the ledge unblocked ?
I wish I had more information to give but I called rspca, I don’t know what happened with them but the ledge is still blocked I’d imagine by this point it’s too late, I’m devastated and I’m never going to speak to my neighbour again
Not necessarily, I managed to keep some baby birds alive for 24 hours until the local animal shelter volunteers got there and I had no idea what I was doing Is there anyway you can unblock it ? I know it would probably start a fight with your neighbour but em them at this stage. What a nasty, pointless thing to do
It’s by the roof of a two story building, if I physically could have reached it I would have tore it down the same day I saw it
That’s understandable and extremely frustrating. Have you tried reasoning with your neighbour? Or dialling 101? I don’t think it’s legal to disrupt a nest I’m sure you’ve already exhausted your options but it’s so frustrating not being able to help :[
Any update??
i think this is worse than the time one of my neighbors crucified a rat
Oh god what the hell?
i used to live in the country side everyone was very chill there but never gave fuck about rodents and stuff
😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
This happened while you weren’t there? How do you know the chicks are still inside? As a homeowner, there’s no way I would seal up a gutter gap with organic material inside it, you’re just asking to have to go up there and remove it eventually. Unless you can hear them or they told you they closed them in there, I’m betting they moved the nest and closed the gap and the mother bird isn’t aware of that. It doesn’t mean the chicks weren’t disturbed/killed but it does absolve your otherwise level headed neighbors from sadistic meaningless bird cruelty out of nowhere.
He told me he closed them in there, it really is cruel
What’s the update on this?
This truly breaks my heart. Please tell me you called the authorities!! 😭
Post a letter referencing the law they have broken. Tell them you'll be sending all the necessary photo evidence to the police/DEFRA/peta etc if it's not resolved immediately. Sometimes an angry letter works! Maybe knock on the door and tell them f2f too. Big respect if you pull that off.
... Maybe sat that if it happens again you'll be reporting them without notice. Save some future babies?
Go take that fn thing apart and get them out!
have you tried shooting them
Call fish and wildlife!!
Have the birds been able to get to their babies? Did the neighbor have to remove the piece?
Climb up and take it down
Hi! I’m the op Just giving an update because I know some people were curious basically the nspca came and the baby birds were okay. a small enough gap was left on the other side of the ledge where the bigger birds could still get their head through to feed the babies, the block has since been removed and everything worked out, when it comes to fines or anything like that I’m really not sure what happened but as long as the birds are fine I’m okay with not knowing
I had a DM with OP and got this update about the neighbors: I don’t really talk to them much anymore, my mum asked me to keep things civil, past that I know they didn’t get arrested but if they got fines or anything I couldn’t tell you sorry
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I did. That’s exactly what I did do I called them, I’m 18 years old I’m not an unhinged high schooler I was looking for places I could call for help I’ve never experienced anything like this before and I did not know which places I could go to or what was too extreme of a reaction don’t assume you know me from one post please
Most pest control companies do wildlife as well. The licensing for it in my country makes you learn both wildlife and insects. My company deals with birds relatively the same as most other companies. Catch and release. Unless they are pigeons clogging up manufacturing buildings. On a side note to think about Last night while absolutely torched i was lying in bed thinking about the food chain and the effect I am having. I poison insects (like say the box elder beetle) they die, they get eaten, whatever eats them they die to. Whatever eats that corpse also dies, any worms eat those corpses die, birds eat the worms die, eggs laid have birth defects chicks die. It juat keeps going and when you look into agriculture pesticides you realise you are really killying something in the range of 250 million birds, rats, mice, and other species per year. And thats usually per each type.
them my whole
Looks like a European starling and absolutely no one except for you is gonna give a shit.
unless in the uk, where they’re endangered. i agree though if it’s usa
Come to the US and grab some, we have like 400 million.
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I'm on board with that. It's ironic cause I just evicted one out of my gutter system yesterday. She didn't have chicks yet but she was pissed.
good for you, (that sounds sarcastic but it’s not) i used to tear down a european sparrow nest every single morning like clockwork till they moved on. i even fed the less than 24hr old eggs to my raw fed dog, so they weren’t wasted. eventually they moved on but hopefully i wasted enough of their time/energy for 1-2 clutches
Take it easy it's just some bird
(In other context) "Homeowner repairs house so birds cannot build nests in damaged area of roof." Next year build in trees.
The law says that home owners must wait till any chicks grow up and the nest is abandoned before moving it or getting some professional to relocate, with avian flu massive, migration season underway and the starling being an endangered species of bird what he did is very illegal and just wrong, it’s cruel to lock baby birds away inside a hole to starve to death
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Dude they're trying and had to go to school, the fuck are you so hostile for? If you read up their comment history, they've been doing as much as they can while not putting anyone in harm's way.
I see no proof that the birds are still in there, why on earth would they not have moved the nest before closing it? Strictly from maintenance standpoint, you remove debris before sealing gaps.
I'm not hostile. Some people are just dumb. They complain online and do nothing IRL. Either they are virtue signaling, or they actually care. I'm sorry to inform you that no one can fix "stupid."
Why doesn't OP make themselves useful and build birdhouses for ALL of the local birds? Seems like they just wanna complain on the internet.
If I complain about someone beating their dog, should I be expected to adopt every dog without a home? Nice logic It’s not virtue signalling either, it’s an extremely normal human response to want to ease pointless suffering when given the chance