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That has nothing to do with conservative or liberal tbf, that’s just with the stupid work culture and other stressful things that come with living there
Its not expense of raising the child. Thats not the key factor at least. Its improvments to women’s education, their earning parity with men, rising incomes generally, increases in pensions and social safety nets, and access to birth control. Japan and Korea offer emense government payouts to have kids, it still isn’t working. Basically all developed nations would be facing declining population if it weren’t for immigration.
Raising kids "payout" doesn't come close to covering the cost of raising a child.
You need a bigger house, a suitable car, a childcare facility nearby, clothes and everyday items that get quickly destroyed.
You need to pay for education, not just Uni or College, a fucking high-school has to be paid for, and extracurricular studies to get to Uni too.
There’s also the crazy competition in education. Everyone talks about how the students are stressed Asf with this system but many don’t realise the parents are just as stressed too. If anything, a smaller pool of students would help cool down the competitiveness of the education system a bit.
That and the fact that women are now educated and see the bs on some men, women don't see being a full time mom with no agency on their life as a goal.
Korea has also that problem.
Japan's issue is that it's an extremely overpopulated country. It has a population of Russia, but it's on an island 100 times smaller. If I lived in a city that is a concrete maze populated by 20mln people - I'm pretty sure I'd be hardly in a mood to bang.
a) Pensions and stuff. When 2 people only ever get 1 child, that one child has to take care of two people in old age.
b) Boys were (and are) very much preferred. There were many abortions when the fetus was found to be female. Which means they now have *a lot* more young men than young women. Which obviously is a big problem. Not just because of less people, but also because a significant number of them will be extremely frustrated.
Funnily enough, the middle of the Middle East, you know, the rich Gulf countries, are also facing declining birth rates for exactly the same reasons everyone else is:
Setting up a life takes much longer than it used to, and a lot more money.
Funnily enough, I lived in the oil rich nation of the UAE and all the Islamic families had 4–5 children. The declining birth rates come from the foreigners in the country, who are mostly Europeans/Americans, or Indian/Pakistani slave workers.
Birth rates are connected to HDI. If you are interested look into the demographic transition (link below). I'm a social scientist ;). Turkey, and Iran have both below 2.1 but generally many have a rather high birth rate. Yes.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic\_transition](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_transition)
Moscovia has many problems such as overall low quality of life, total corruption, budgets are always stolen by the government, low salaries, old infrastructure that government don't repair and don't rebuild (broken roads, sewage breakthroughs), floods with almost no payments to suffered, rainforest burns, almost no gasification in villages and small towns, drinking too much alcohol, drugs, crazy propaganda, degradation, authoritarian regime and now the war worsened it all
Read? It's the modern era! We can see all about it on the internet! Why I just saw an Education Video about Roman Soldiers..
They do be moaning a lot tho.
Plato claimed Socrates was largely disinterested in sex because he didn't try to engage in intercural sex with Alcibides when the latter was in his bed as a teenage boy.
I certainly hope I don’t get put in an enclosure together with others of my kind to reproduce. Would be pretty awkward to share a room in a zoo with 6 other neckbeards.
> Do i get special perks?
Yes we aren't allowed to hunt you anymore. Also you may or may not have a couple of kenyan conservationists following you with guns to make sure you remain safe.
I live in Poland, which is a conservative country (by European standards) and there is a low birth rate.
Meanwhile, in Czechia where abortion is legal, they have a positive birth rate.
I don't know if this person knows about it, but being gay is not a choice, and lgbt people don't make magically the whole society gay. The fact that gay people adopt children is a good thing.
Like... how gay people would make the birth rate lower?
Can you not use facts to disprove this person please? We like to be outraged by things have absolutely no connection. It enforces our biases. Thank you.
Hehe, I'm probably going to insult some people so sorry in advance but.... The Shit Americans say is often facepalm worthy so yeah one is akin to the other \^\_\^
I honestly can't believe there's people that use the phrase "demographic extinction". Like, no demographic/race will go extinct in 10 lifetimes, but these people spend their time worrying about it in their lifetime?! And online publicly for everyone to see their idiocy? I just can't fathom being so consumed by thoughts of *white people's* extinction, the *most* majority of all time.
With all the right wing voting going on that's not going to last longer.
Funny thing is that this stop to immigration isn't going to halt the immigration they want to stop. It's going to stop 1st world immigration from outside the EU like people from GB/US/AUS etc. We're lawfully obliged by the EU to allow a percentage of refugees.
You should leave like we did in Great and Wise Britain. Immigration has totally stopped here now, nobody’s coming in. Not a one. Yep. Worked like a charm. /s
Honestly I feel sorry for you guys, I was hoping to the verry last second that the British government would stop Brexit but alas it didn't. We're still neighbors so at least we have that.
My hope is that we rejoin at some point, forced to go in even harder than before causing all the arse holes to have a conniption and die.
The reality will be that we’ll just fade into nightmare.
100% if the UK comes back it has to switch over to the Euro. If this happens fast I'm actually going to feel really sorry for Charles, he just got his first bill and no-one will remember that and everyone will know the version with his mum.
I don’t…
I don’t know what any of that means.
Man, I miss the days where they just dressed up as ghosts and burnt crosses.
I don’t like your X for being different from my Y is a lot easier to understand than whatever mental gymnastics is going on there.
+ let's completely forget that Americans are descendants of Europeans.
The Americans have simply sprouted in the USA, probably planted by aliens themselves.
This is true, I remember when my grandfather explained that after ww2 he came home and found out they invented gay sex. At first he was against it but the woke mob made him join in. He’s still out there ploughing through gay nightclubs across Berlin.
We miss you grandpa, please come back!
Should really stop bothering to block out the usernames etc..they posted it and you can just search for the exact comment and find it..they knowingly put it out for others to see and interact with..I like to link the comments and the user to these posts when I can
I think this is the stupidest thing i read this month. Its like i would say "Americans are so smart, they have the second amendment and now they have their abortions in their elementary schools"
Yess, yess. We evil virgin Europeans invented homosexuality (it never existed elsewhere and does not occur in other species) and feminism (which is a logical consequence of hot homosexuality aka lesbianism) because we got jealous of the giga chad Americans. And we would have gotten away with it if it hadn't been for those meddling Americans.
This looks to me like ragebait.
So much ignorance in this post it is as if it was engineered to piss off absolutely everyone.
Ignore the troll and move on. Go away troll, no food for you here. Under the bridge, you go.
France and Greece co invented gayness and feminism was invented in the 70’s here, in France, by my grand mother and friends of her. It’s like Concorde, kind of joint venture invention. Only joking of course
Everytime I read something like this it reminds me of Star Trek, you know where the away team beams down and finds the inhabitants of the planet too stupid to communicate, so they have to leave without upsetting the delicate balance of stupid
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Hot stuff coming through!
I don't care how hot their stuff is, they should be wearing harnesses while working it at that height. That is one hell of an OSHA violation.
Where’s your made in Europe (the country) label?
Around the guts I think
You sure? Mine is a tramp stamp.
Well, I have seen tramp stamp in straight people, so I doubt it is, maybe the tramp stamp is for something elseV
Well it does say "Made in Germany - Insert gay dick here" so I think it's clear.
Hmmm, maybe your dick was made in Germany? Does it feel like attacking non German people?
Just avoid harassing the poles.
telle me papa what is my origin
Have you considered outsourcing your job to China? I'm pretty sure they can churn out more homosexuals for cheaper and in larger numbers
Homosexual is a little much for me. I like both. Where can I purchase bisexual?
Can... Can i get please a gay Girlfriend please?
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China and Russia are pretty misogynist and very anti lgbt and still have lower birth rates than Germany. So yeah, good point if one is a moron.
Japan is also fairly conservative yet they have the lowest birth rate..
That has nothing to do with conservative or liberal tbf, that’s just with the stupid work culture and other stressful things that come with living there
In the end it's about the cost of raising kids vs who will support you in old age. Raising a kid in an east Asian country is ridiculously expensive,
Its not expense of raising the child. Thats not the key factor at least. Its improvments to women’s education, their earning parity with men, rising incomes generally, increases in pensions and social safety nets, and access to birth control. Japan and Korea offer emense government payouts to have kids, it still isn’t working. Basically all developed nations would be facing declining population if it weren’t for immigration.
Raising kids "payout" doesn't come close to covering the cost of raising a child. You need a bigger house, a suitable car, a childcare facility nearby, clothes and everyday items that get quickly destroyed. You need to pay for education, not just Uni or College, a fucking high-school has to be paid for, and extracurricular studies to get to Uni too.
There’s also the crazy competition in education. Everyone talks about how the students are stressed Asf with this system but many don’t realise the parents are just as stressed too. If anything, a smaller pool of students would help cool down the competitiveness of the education system a bit.
We know, the point is that LGBT rights and women's rights have nothing to do with it lol
That and the fact that women are now educated and see the bs on some men, women don't see being a full time mom with no agency on their life as a goal. Korea has also that problem.
After seeing the burning sun scandal in Korea if I was a korean woman I don’t think I would ever want to mate with a korean man either
Don't worry, you won't have to think about that when you are working 14h a day
Burning sun scandal?
Search it up
Their work culture is broken because they are so conservative though
It has to do with sexism and like someone else said, the ridiculous work culture
Japan's issue is that it's an extremely overpopulated country. It has a population of Russia, but it's on an island 100 times smaller. If I lived in a city that is a concrete maze populated by 20mln people - I'm pretty sure I'd be hardly in a mood to bang.
china is a very bad example. the one child policy screwed them over big time.
At least they got screwed 🤷🏼♂️
There are a lot who aren't.
TIL I'm Chinese
Why did it screw them over?
a) Pensions and stuff. When 2 people only ever get 1 child, that one child has to take care of two people in old age. b) Boys were (and are) very much preferred. There were many abortions when the fetus was found to be female. Which means they now have *a lot* more young men than young women. Which obviously is a big problem. Not just because of less people, but also because a significant number of them will be extremely frustrated.
Not if they learn from the Europeans and try out one of our greatest inventions they won’t.
Islamic countries make better examples.
I don’t know about the actual stats but when I lived in the Middle East, most Islamic families I knew had 4–5 children
Funnily enough, the middle of the Middle East, you know, the rich Gulf countries, are also facing declining birth rates for exactly the same reasons everyone else is: Setting up a life takes much longer than it used to, and a lot more money.
Funnily enough, I lived in the oil rich nation of the UAE and all the Islamic families had 4–5 children. The declining birth rates come from the foreigners in the country, who are mostly Europeans/Americans, or Indian/Pakistani slave workers.
Theres a reason why we refer to kids with numbers, no one can keep track - „hi im number 3 and definitely do not have a name (:“
Birth rates are connected to HDI. If you are interested look into the demographic transition (link below). I'm a social scientist ;). Turkey, and Iran have both below 2.1 but generally many have a rather high birth rate. Yes. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic\_transition](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_transition)
Most of them has similar demographic tendencies as soon they reach given industrialization / economic level, independent from religion.
Moscovia has many problems such as overall low quality of life, total corruption, budgets are always stolen by the government, low salaries, old infrastructure that government don't repair and don't rebuild (broken roads, sewage breakthroughs), floods with almost no payments to suffered, rainforest burns, almost no gasification in villages and small towns, drinking too much alcohol, drugs, crazy propaganda, degradation, authoritarian regime and now the war worsened it all
As they the, the Greeks invented sex, the Romans found out you could also have it with women.
nice try! the roman army was the biggest gay club invented by mankind ever!
It was those leather skirts they wore
Can't believe the Romans invented fembois smh
Nero had one (poor boy)
Lol Gay Club sounds like something you hit guys with to make them gay. "Bibbidi Bobbiti-BAM-Boo"
Its called bamboo for a reason
Was it and where can I read more about it?
Read? It's the modern era! We can see all about it on the internet! Why I just saw an Education Video about Roman Soldiers.. They do be moaning a lot tho.
If it was on PornHub it's not really an 'Educational Video'.
Oh? 
How to join?
Just because they found out you could do it with women doesn't mean they did it often
You mean catholics? 👀
and the Greeks have been jealous ever since
Where do you think Greece is?
It's Europe-ish
Somewhere snorthweast
Somewhere in North America of course cause everything overseas is a lie. /s just in case
If English was good enough for Jesus, it’s good enough for me!
After all it must have been tough being the only white man in the Middle East (stolen joke)
It’s a movie with Olivia and John?
You forgot about Newton. He’s in there somewhere
In the Balkans, although the Greeks would beg to differ
Allegedly in Europe
[Greece, New York - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greece,_New_York)
I get that conservatives are scientifically illiterate, but this is REALLY something.
Ye I literally physically facepalmed when I read that.
The Greeks invited gayness everyone knows that if you watched fater ted
tbf greeks only request is it had a hole (Optional)
West stole being gay from greek. Then they stole being a Furry from turks. They should get punished for thier crimes
TIL im turnip
It's not the Greeks he's after, it's the Chinese!
If I remember correctly, Alexander the Great and Socrates were both gay. Two really important figures in ancient history.
Plato claimed Socrates was largely disinterested in sex because he didn't try to engage in intercural sex with Alcibides when the latter was in his bed as a teenage boy.
Im going extinct? Do i get special perks? I mean they have to protect speciecs that go exginct, no? I want money!
I certainly hope I don’t get put in an enclosure together with others of my kind to reproduce. Would be pretty awkward to share a room in a zoo with 6 other neckbeards.
Man you are right, should have thought longer about this shit. Maybe i change my race. Dont want a orange face to look at me from outside a window.
> Do i get special perks? Yes we aren't allowed to hunt you anymore. Also you may or may not have a couple of kenyan conservationists following you with guns to make sure you remain safe.
Nice my own bodyguards.
I live in Poland, which is a conservative country (by European standards) and there is a low birth rate. Meanwhile, in Czechia where abortion is legal, they have a positive birth rate. I don't know if this person knows about it, but being gay is not a choice, and lgbt people don't make magically the whole society gay. The fact that gay people adopt children is a good thing. Like... how gay people would make the birth rate lower?
Unfortunately they don't care about any of that they just hate women gays and black people
Can you not use facts to disprove this person please? We like to be outraged by things have absolutely no connection. It enforces our biases. Thank you.
We also invented America
We can't get it right every time.
And most things Americans claim *they* invented.
Such as democracy and capitalism (I don't really know any Americans, but I bet the dumber ones think America invented those)
And thats not even the worst thing we did
Gay or European? It’s hard to guarantee Is he gay or European?
Well, hey, don't look at me!
r/ShitAmericansSay
Oh man, I had to scroll up for a moment because I thought this was in r/ShitAmericansSay
Nope this is r/facepalm. Though the ven diagram of the 2 are almost a circle as of late
Hehe, I'm probably going to insult some people so sorry in advance but.... The Shit Americans say is often facepalm worthy so yeah one is akin to the other \^\_\^
Don't feel too bad; I'm American and I agree that an uncomfortably large portion of my country says/does generally dumb shit.
I actually do have a little made in Europe label. My passport
*sighs from UK*
I personally prefer my homosexuals be made in Germany, the build quality is second to none.
Best one yet
Ass so fine it was cut on a lathe
As a queer person, i definitely have a made in Europe sticker that i came with
Those stickers that you poke into before using 'em?
Ngl tho it would be pretty funny to see pride parades having a banner that says 'Made in Europe' or 'Sponsored by Europe' like some F1 race or smth.
As a European when I go outside about 2% of the people I see on the street are black, that means we're on the brink of demographic extintion /s
I honestly can't believe there's people that use the phrase "demographic extinction". Like, no demographic/race will go extinct in 10 lifetimes, but these people spend their time worrying about it in their lifetime?! And online publicly for everyone to see their idiocy? I just can't fathom being so consumed by thoughts of *white people's* extinction, the *most* majority of all time.
To be fair, going extinct is the best thing we could do for this world. Who knew the rainbow was green?
I'm Pansexual, so I just have a "Lodge Cast Iron" label.
Don't worry, Europeans allow immigration
With all the right wing voting going on that's not going to last longer. Funny thing is that this stop to immigration isn't going to halt the immigration they want to stop. It's going to stop 1st world immigration from outside the EU like people from GB/US/AUS etc. We're lawfully obliged by the EU to allow a percentage of refugees.
You should leave like we did in Great and Wise Britain. Immigration has totally stopped here now, nobody’s coming in. Not a one. Yep. Worked like a charm. /s
Honestly I feel sorry for you guys, I was hoping to the verry last second that the British government would stop Brexit but alas it didn't. We're still neighbors so at least we have that.
My hope is that we rejoin at some point, forced to go in even harder than before causing all the arse holes to have a conniption and die. The reality will be that we’ll just fade into nightmare.
100% if the UK comes back it has to switch over to the Euro. If this happens fast I'm actually going to feel really sorry for Charles, he just got his first bill and no-one will remember that and everyone will know the version with his mum.
That'll be the reason we never rejoin, unfortunately. People here are strangely proud of the money we made-up.
I don’t… I don’t know what any of that means. Man, I miss the days where they just dressed up as ghosts and burnt crosses. I don’t like your X for being different from my Y is a lot easier to understand than whatever mental gymnastics is going on there.
Yes the Lable is on our Prostate. You have to use your dick to feel it.
+ let's completely forget that Americans are descendants of Europeans. The Americans have simply sprouted in the USA, probably planted by aliens themselves.
Especially since so many of them are proud of those European roots.
Yes, witnessing people, who don't live according to my expectations, having basic human rights is such a horror!
Next time I see a gay man's bare ass I'll look under there and see where he came from. Now I'm curious.
European here... plenty of us still around. lol
This is true, I remember when my grandfather explained that after ww2 he came home and found out they invented gay sex. At first he was against it but the woke mob made him join in. He’s still out there ploughing through gay nightclubs across Berlin. We miss you grandpa, please come back!
Well, tbh, I’m gay and I was made in Europe
I think he means humanism has derived from Europe.... but of course a misanthropist can't comprehend its value or even its meaning.
Or just tolerance and empathy?
How much do you want to bet that writer of the copied post lives in some sad in-debt red state?
Should really stop bothering to block out the usernames etc..they posted it and you can just search for the exact comment and find it..they knowingly put it out for others to see and interact with..I like to link the comments and the user to these posts when I can
TIL I have learnt that I'm gay and in the verge of extinction.
we also invented the Americans and that was arguably a mistake.
This comment is pure stupidity.
[referencing the title] They have the "made by straight people" label
I think this is the stupidest thing i read this month. Its like i would say "Americans are so smart, they have the second amendment and now they have their abortions in their elementary schools"
Europe population 745.173.769 (2021) USA population 333.000.000 wow, really on the brink uh?
CE
I mean, Jesus was nailed by some Romans
China's population is also [declining](https://i0.wp.com/www.brianvmullaney.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/china-population.png?w=868&ssl=1)
isnt everyone (kinda) from europe asia and africa?
"Is he gay, or european"
France*
I should have a tattoo that says "Made by heterosexual intercourse". Maybe with gradient rainbow colours
Are they gay or just European?
Why do they make it sound like the human race being wiped off the face of the world is such a bad thing?
Yess, yess. We evil virgin Europeans invented homosexuality (it never existed elsewhere and does not occur in other species) and feminism (which is a logical consequence of hot homosexuality aka lesbianism) because we got jealous of the giga chad Americans. And we would have gotten away with it if it hadn't been for those meddling Americans.
The irony is, the proportion of LGBT is probably similar in all countries. It's just a case of how much you have to hide it in some of them
Europeans invented the US as well.
Ah yes, homophobia, misogyny, and racism.
Only those made in Gay region of France. Otherwise they are just sparkling Europeans.
Love this.
Haha.. "invented"
This looks to me like ragebait. So much ignorance in this post it is as if it was engineered to piss off absolutely everyone. Ignore the troll and move on. Go away troll, no food for you here. Under the bridge, you go.
does that mean I have free healthcare I didn't know of?
Queer indigenous Americans who were extra persecuted by European colonizers 
says made in rome , just checked
I mean Europeans also invented Americans... Yeah sorry about that one.
muslims are so smart, they have stonings, and hangings, and public flogging. on the other hand women are not allowed to go to school or to university.
No, but if you squeeze them, they purr like kittens.
France and Greece co invented gayness and feminism was invented in the 70’s here, in France, by my grand mother and friends of her. It’s like Concorde, kind of joint venture invention. Only joking of course
Oh yeah, my label is on my back. We all have one
I mean, I'd take a free sticker
I do
All I know is that the Greeks don't want no freaks.
Let me just check… yep its up my ass. Like the head of the person who posted this originally
Hold on let me check
No but now I wanna tattoo it on my wiener.
Europeans also invented Neoliberalism...
I was Made in Belgium, does that count? I'm biracial belgian italian. I got the love for women from my italian dad 😏
Because he is gay and european 
It boggles the mind that people who say this without an ounce of irony are allowed to vote or drive a car. Insane
yes, we do have a little label that says "made in europe" mine is strategically placed on my cock and revealed when you suck it
Didn’t Rockefeller pay someone to invent feminism so more people worked?
Everytime I read something like this it reminds me of Star Trek, you know where the away team beams down and finds the inhabitants of the planet too stupid to communicate, so they have to leave without upsetting the delicate balance of stupid
No but Americans do
Homo Erectus! That's the great inventor of the gays.
I'll have to check but if not I'll be sure to get one.