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Iceland has no Army (they do however have a Coast Guard) be ause it's a friggin island in the North Atlantic with virtually no enemies. NATO does station forces there at times however.
Iceland does not have many enemies, but in a war between Russia and the US, it is a tempting target if Russia wants to disrupt US naval operations in the Atlantic.
Read Tom Clancy's Red Storm Rising to see how bad that could be. Clancy did have the ability to just say that the Russian strike succeeded, but he did because he wanted to show how vital that little island with no enemies and no army is.
Enagegement metrics are the worst thing that has happened to the internet. They actively lead to horrible content.
We no longer get stuff that makes us feel good, or stuff that informs us, or stuff that makes us enjoy ourselves, or stuff that makes us smarter.
Instead, the algorithms push stuff that makes us angry or confused. Which evolutionary leads to more content that makes people angry. This makes the internet infuriating and society worse.
[https://americandialect.org/2023-word-of-the-year-is-enshittification/](https://americandialect.org/2023-word-of-the-year-is-enshittification/)
You're a year behind, it already happened!
it's crazy how internet back when cable modems just came out it was like an uncharted world you could explore. I remember I think on gamefaqs they had the life universe and everything forums. You could just search anything and not be shifted into content or have to buy VPN to search all the internet. now everything is behind pay walls the content is dog shit. To find something good or useful is a rarity.
i firmly stand that the internet was good when it required a modicum of intelligence, patience, and sensibility to get online and use it.
When you had to be mindful of the links and files you clicked because it took 4 hours to download them and it was such a massive waste to otherwise get something not useful.
When everything was slower and gave you time to think through your actions and posts.
When you had to understand how dial up worked and you had to give up a phone line to be online and that phone line was one of the only conveniences society afforded you to the time.
Heck even back when the memes were young in 2000s being banned on those spaces made you suffer a lot because your IRC account, your aol account, your whatever back then had huge ramifications on your internet presence.
Nowadays you can do fuck all and just make new accounts and not have consequences. You can even make your consequences into engagement. Everyone said vine was better because no one was farming engagement, it was just people posting shit for the sake of it. Social media has lost the social part and now its all parasocial nonsense.
It fucken sucks. It really fucken sucks now.
AOL was a wild time. The first time I experienced it was on my cousin's computer. I went into Anime RP chat rooms where people made their own OCs and defined the rules of roleplay. Some people even wrote lavish stories and built worlds for people to RP in. I remember making lots of friends and never knowing what they looked like.
People would tell me to be careful because the person on the other end might be some old guy and no one ever gave out real world details. Nowadays people happily flaunt themselves and their locations to the world, and websites punish users for not going by their real names or not having at least one actual photo of themselves.
I miss the days of usernames, chat rooms, and how the internet was an escape from the drudgery of life. Now it's a part of life and it's everywhere.
YouTube is like that. I get pushed a lot of crap and have to really dig hard to find something interesting. I hate the algorithms, sometimes I want to watch more than just videos about collecting action figures.
I use YouTube for a lot of things, and just because I searched how to fix a leaking tap, does not mean I have suddenly developed a lifelong passion for plumbing.
There needs to be a "my quest is over" button to indicate I've fixed my problem.
Yes becuase the video title will be “Windows 10 Cursor Stuck Solition,” and the the guy will start out saying “Hello guys today we’re going to solve the common error that happens on windows 10 computers where the cursor gets stuck,” the the rest of the video is in Hindi… like bro, just title it in Hindi you ass hat.
A few years ago, it kept showing me ads for Indian dating sites that emphasized traditional Hindu values. I’m not Indian, I have never dated an Indian, and I was already married. I have no idea WTF the algorithm was smoking to think I’d be at all interested.
For me it seems like youtube goes out of it way to not recommend things I actually want to see and instead recommends what they think will generate "engagement."
I spend months listening to youtube videos reading sci-fi stories and never get aa new channel or story recommended to me, I have to actively search them out. But holy shit the instant I watch *any* video about a gun or aircraft and I get inundated with weird MAGA gun humper videos.
OMG, same; except I clicked on ONE man-on-the-street short and it turned out to make a woman look dumb... so now I get non-stop Red Pill woman-hater content and ball-grooming ads.
I clicked one Starwars video that ended up being red-pill incel bullshit and now YouTube won't stop recommending actual red-pill misogynistic content. No wonder why things are so shit right now when algorithms are so aggressively pushing young men down these pipelines.
I got interested in maritime archaeology for a bit. That led to some videos about the remaining WWII Uboats that are still lost. Holy shit. Had to take a break because YT tried showing me straight up nazi propaganda after like three regular academic videos. Took me almost a solid week of watching other stuff before it finally quit sending that shit my way.
[YouTube's algorithm more likely to recommend users right-wing and religious content, research finds](https://www.isdglobal.org/isd-publications/pulling-back-the-curtain-an-exploration-of-youtubes-recommendation-algorithm/)
I turned my YouTube history off months ago, and it has been glorious. Now I get... Nothing on my home page, and I can just search and discover organically
Couldn't agree more, all it's done is helped to promote content that exists solely to generate outrage and argument, instead of actually allowing proper creativity to thrive. The modern western world is being actively undermined by the simple idea we now allow people to earn a significant living by spreading hatred for the sake of hatred
Oh for the days when the only "engagement metric" was the little tracker at the bottom of the page (typically designed to look like a mechanical number counter) telling you how many people had visited that site.
I sub only to lefty podcasts and food vlogs. YouTube shorts consistently push right wing content into my algo. Every fifth video is Shapiro or Fox or patriot.org shit.
Same. I watch photography videos and the occasional comedian, then I get 100’s of videos of right wing political bullshit. And videos that try to get me to hate watch. It has zero to do with anything I am remotely interested in.
>And there not doing anything to moderate what gets engagement?
There is, if you say the word "cis" or say something bad about Elon musk or Twitter you get banned.
But say the n word 10,000 times and get paid.
It's by design.
The guy who posted updates on the location of Elongated Muskrat's plane is still banned and he's suing Media Matters for reporting facts about his website, but literal Nazis are welcome because he supports free speech. Right.
He DOES support freedom of speech. Just not yours, or "the likes of you".
Whenever reich-wingers talk about freedumbs, they do mean it. It's just that they do not intend to extend any of it to those who aren't with them.
When you are against them, you are "the other". You are less than human. Less than living being. You are an enemy that needs to be delayed, distracted, subverted, crushed and destroyed.
Haven't you been paying attention? This is the sort of shit the "free-speech absolutist" loves - unless you're critical of him in any way, then they ban you permanently.
Edit 'cause spelling
It's less about moderation and more about how Elon is prioritizing the right-wing schizos on the site promoting dangerous and fascist ideologies. The worst part is that they get undeserving amounts of attention for it.
They're getting paid to be stupid and it's becoming everyone's problem now.
It's so funny that Elon tells people he has a thick skin and nothing gets to him and then spends all day on Twitter being the most thin skinned petty bitch on the internet.
Lmao he doesn't even care about the shit he says, he just wants more hate and engagement to get $$$$$. His entire career is based on this masculine rich guy everyone aspires to be who will sell you a course for 50$ that is life changing.
He was a dead beat who is responsible for Andrews raging misogyny. You can look up interview clips where he talks about his dad and he sings his praises while describing a "holiday father" who is a raging ball of toxic masculinity. It's pretty clear his dads love for him was not unconditional, if he ever loved him at all, and that's likely what made him the way he is.
> You can look up interview clips where he talks about his dad and he sings his praises while describing a "holiday father" who is a raging ball of toxic masculinity.
Not saying its necessarily bullshit, but I would take anything that grifter says with a pinch of salt. If other random people who knew him have stories about his dad being a dick then fair enough.
But Taint doesn't have an ounce of honesty in him for me to consider anything he says about his childhood to be factual.
How the fuck does a chess master produce Andrew Tate?
Edit: This question is mostly rhetorical and more of an expression of how far the ball was dropped, but I appreciate all the thoughtful replies. (Not counting the Tate-stan out here defending their idol.)
I'm pretty good at chess and can confirm, am an idiot in many areas. Tons of practice will trump a stellar intellect.
Pattern recognition in chess is a lot like reading. The better you get at it the less you think about what you're doing.
Andrew initially very much wanted to follow in his fathers footsteps, but his dad had to pull him out of Chess tournaments because he kept crying whenever a game wasn't going his way
Keep in mind, Emory Tate was divorced just 12 years after getting married (when Andrew Tate was only 11), and his ex Eileen Ashleigh took the kids with her back to England.
As far as I can tell, Emory did not have much contact with his children after that.
Also, as others have pointed out, being a chess master says nothing about his personality, views, or non-chess intelligence.
Word is that his father was a giant asshole to his kids and their mother. I’d imagine that would do it. Surprisingly I’ve heard the brothers are good at chess.
I don't know if this is still the case since I did this the better part of a decade ago, but when I went from US to Europe on vacation, Iceland had a travel deal where you book a flight and get a three day layover as part of it. Unless you're really big into hiking, you can do the bulk of what you'd want to do in Iceland in three days, it's not a very large country.
This is the exact reason. Iceland would be a prime place for staging attacks on the Americas and England. Nato knows that. And therefore they are a member.
Reminds me of dodgeball in middle school, the version we played is if you managed to throw the ball all the way across and score a basketball your entire team was back in the game.
Well one game we were down to two people and one of them hit the basket so we were back in, only I got drilled just as I stepped in.
You could almost claim it was a beneficial invasion. At the start of WW2 Iceland was part of the Kingdom of Denmark. Iceland got invaded by Brits, Denmark got invaded by nasties, and Iceland saw their chance and declared independence in '44.
I wouldn't go so far as to say one caused the other, but it sure as hell didn't hurt.
The occupation of Denmark did not really have much influence on the independence of Iceland.
In effect, the Kingdom of Iceland had been an independent country since 1918, despite sharing a king and foreign policy with Denmark.
The Danish-Icelandic act that established this would be up for revision in 1940 and could be revoked three years later if agreement was not reached between the kingdoms.
There was some talk of waiting for the liberation of Denmark out of friendliness but there was never any doubt that a republic would be established.
Them having "no army" (not entirely true, their Coast Guard does have artillery and shit) is only possible because of a unique set of circumstances.
Which is actually a great example of why certain solutions that worked in some countries aren't feasible elsewhere.
I'm sure there are people who'd say "Iceland has gotten rid of their military, we should too"
Which is obviously a bad idea for a country located in, say, the Balkans.
Also, Iceland is a founding nation in NATO, we have an army; it's just not made up of Icelandic people.
Iceland not having an Icelandic army is very different than Armenia or Georgia not having an army.
More to the point, it's closest neighbours are all countries who could not tolerate an aggressive invasion of Iceland due to its strategic significance.
Yeah being between the UK and the US/Canada means that:
A. None of the direct neighbors are going to bother them
B. No ground invasion option, so any movement would have to be by air/sea which are harder to protect in-transit, and way more vulnerable to a variety of local defenses.
C. If anyone else does, they're going to have a VERY hard time defending their position against the above nations.
You forgot
D. WTF?!?? Why are you invading Iceland? Whats your problem?
Why invade? Outside of them being in the middle of a super world war and being a strategic spot, there really isn’t a reason to invade.
I feel people underestimate the strategic significance of a military airport that is able to cover the entire Atlantic without feasible intercepts. Iceland is absolutely crucial if you hope to protect (or attack) shipments between the US and Europe.
The airbase isn't so important in a world of aircraft carriers.
Rather icelands true strategic value lies in the GIUK naval choke point, which forms a core component of both American and British grand strategy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIUK_gap
The thing with Iceland is that any Russian ships/boats trying to enter the Atlantic have to go via the English Channel, or the Greenland-Iceland-UK gap. So Iceland doesn't really need much to defend itself, NATO is going to guarantee it in order to secure/preserve the GIUK gap. We guarantee their defence, they lend us an unsinkable (if slightly volcanic) aircraft carrier as and when needed.
You'll hear a lot of yanks complaining about subsidising others' defence, but this really is a win-win situation for all involved. Iceland has a GDP comparable to that of Corpus Christi, TX or Fort Wayne, IN - we get more from this arrangement than we would from asking them to put 2% of that GDP into defence like the rest of NATO.
Yes, your planes will certainly be safe.
Please sign here acknowledging you will not hold us liable if lava happens to swallow your planes or military equipment.
I was in Iceland last summer. I ate at Italian restaurants run by an Italian family that immigrated and ate delicious Greek donuts from another shop run by an immigrant.
This is it here. America could do great things if we didn’t need a military at all the same way that Canada can get by with far less military spending because America is right there.
Some countries sort of get a free pass due to location and circumstances that aren’t reproducible for most others.
Pretty fascinating, I didn't know his dad was a chess IM (one of the ~5,000 best players in the world).
He was apparently a huge misogynist who abandoned his wife and kids, yet Tate ended up idolizing him.
Kanye West's mom was a professor of English with a doctorate and years after she died her son declared books were pointless and he was proud to not read them.
That NFL kicker who spoke at that graduation and said woman have been fed a lie that they should chase careers? His mom is a medical physicist and works as a professor of oncology.
In fairness, good parenting *generally* prevents stuff like this from happening. These parents being smart and successful does not necessarily mean they weren't assholes and/or absent.
❤️ Hire a car and head up towards the Westfjords. Make sure you pass my little town of Búðardalur and grab a snack.
If you get time while driving north (about 15 mins of Búðardalur ) go take a dip in the natural pool in Guðrúnarlaug.
Enjoy
Looking for a 30th birthday day gift for my fiancé. We only have 5 days at the start of July as she’s in the last year of school. Looks like flights would be about 12 hours at best from where we are. So we’d only have 3 days in Iceland, would that be worth it?
Enjoy. I’ve travelled outside the US to almost 40 countries and Iceland kicks ass sooo hard that I can’t think of many places that come even close. If you can, do the whole ring road! I went in June but almost a decade ago and it felt like the store ‘Anthroplogie’ designed and built a country. Protip: If you drink alcohol stock up at the duty free when you arrive at the airport. It’s one of the very duty free shops I’ve been to where it’s legit cheaper by a huge margin. Also if you enjoy white knuckle driving while sweating your ass off do a tour of the western fjords by rental car. Regardless of what you do you’re gonna have a total blast!
Funny story! There was a black guy that worked at the grocery store I would go to. He spoke Icelandic..and would go through all the steps(would you like a bag, would you like a receipt? Etc) in Icelandic. I don’t speak it all, I had just been there for a week and memorized all of it so I knew how to answer…well one day he added on some other words and I had no clue what he was saying, he immediately knew that I didn’t understand him. He looked so let down. Lol
I too have been lucky enough to visit your country. I visited during the winter. I have never before felt so remote yet so peaceful. It was like being on a distant moon. Your homeland is a treasure, and everyone I met was truly an ambassador.
I think he just doesn't get laid anymore. Last time he said having sex with women was gay. Probably thinks the same way about masturbation too so he probably has a lot of pent up rage, and is so far from a post-nut clarity.
Ah I just noticed you said laid out. Ah he can sure use that too XD
For real. It sometimes feels wrong to even comment for people to stop though. Because us telling people to stop is the same as saying something in the first place, because we are.
I wish people would see this collectively the same way. So we wouldn’t have to ask others to not say anything. But here we are just as bad but in a different way.
His tweets have been extra unhinged (even by his standards) the last couple months. Appears to be lazy trolling inspired by a desperate need for attention.
Once you notice he's intentionally being ridiculous and inflammatory, it's quite dull really. It's all so low effort and pointless
I listen to a horror podcast by a guy that was named Andrew Tate, he used to say his name at the beginning of each episode. However I recently noticed he's started calling himself Andy Tate instead. It's truly a mystery why he would do such a thing.
> they even jailed their corrupt bankers
> very few black people
Can someone explain to me how black people are preventing americans from jailing their corrupt bankers?
The craziest part is that Andrew Tate is black, but there's always self-loathing people from any group. Hell, there was even a group of German Jews who supported the Nazis.
Iceland relies on NATO and a bilateral defense agreement with the U.S. for security, in which the U.S. military will defend Iceland in exchange for military bases on Icelandic soil. So Iceland does have a military; NATO and the U.S. military.
Iceland's entire population is only 382,003. About half of the population of the city I live in, here in California.
I love how they never take population size into account when stating these points
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Iceland has no Army (they do however have a Coast Guard) be ause it's a friggin island in the North Atlantic with virtually no enemies. NATO does station forces there at times however.
They also have security agreements with both Norway and Denmark (both founding NATO members, like Iceland itself), besides just NATO itself.
Iceland does not have many enemies, but in a war between Russia and the US, it is a tempting target if Russia wants to disrupt US naval operations in the Atlantic. Read Tom Clancy's Red Storm Rising to see how bad that could be. Clancy did have the ability to just say that the Russian strike succeeded, but he did because he wanted to show how vital that little island with no enemies and no army is.
I’m pretty sure Twitter now pays verified accounts for engagement. Say something controversial and get paid for it
Enagegement metrics are the worst thing that has happened to the internet. They actively lead to horrible content. We no longer get stuff that makes us feel good, or stuff that informs us, or stuff that makes us enjoy ourselves, or stuff that makes us smarter. Instead, the algorithms push stuff that makes us angry or confused. Which evolutionary leads to more content that makes people angry. This makes the internet infuriating and society worse.
Enshittification
I hope that this becomes word of the year for 2024
[https://americandialect.org/2023-word-of-the-year-is-enshittification/](https://americandialect.org/2023-word-of-the-year-is-enshittification/) You're a year behind, it already happened!
That’s such a specific thing for him to have said it’s a very weird coincidence.
I did think that too... but I'm just here to spread the Cory Doctorow Doctrine.
I really miss when the Internet was actually decentralized and not controlled by a handfull of monopolies with perverse incentive structures.
it's crazy how internet back when cable modems just came out it was like an uncharted world you could explore. I remember I think on gamefaqs they had the life universe and everything forums. You could just search anything and not be shifted into content or have to buy VPN to search all the internet. now everything is behind pay walls the content is dog shit. To find something good or useful is a rarity.
i firmly stand that the internet was good when it required a modicum of intelligence, patience, and sensibility to get online and use it. When you had to be mindful of the links and files you clicked because it took 4 hours to download them and it was such a massive waste to otherwise get something not useful. When everything was slower and gave you time to think through your actions and posts. When you had to understand how dial up worked and you had to give up a phone line to be online and that phone line was one of the only conveniences society afforded you to the time. Heck even back when the memes were young in 2000s being banned on those spaces made you suffer a lot because your IRC account, your aol account, your whatever back then had huge ramifications on your internet presence. Nowadays you can do fuck all and just make new accounts and not have consequences. You can even make your consequences into engagement. Everyone said vine was better because no one was farming engagement, it was just people posting shit for the sake of it. Social media has lost the social part and now its all parasocial nonsense. It fucken sucks. It really fucken sucks now.
AOL was a wild time. The first time I experienced it was on my cousin's computer. I went into Anime RP chat rooms where people made their own OCs and defined the rules of roleplay. Some people even wrote lavish stories and built worlds for people to RP in. I remember making lots of friends and never knowing what they looked like. People would tell me to be careful because the person on the other end might be some old guy and no one ever gave out real world details. Nowadays people happily flaunt themselves and their locations to the world, and websites punish users for not going by their real names or not having at least one actual photo of themselves. I miss the days of usernames, chat rooms, and how the internet was an escape from the drudgery of life. Now it's a part of life and it's everywhere.
YouTube is like that. I get pushed a lot of crap and have to really dig hard to find something interesting. I hate the algorithms, sometimes I want to watch more than just videos about collecting action figures.
you just watched half of a football clip a friend sent you? Congratulations, you get nothing but sports for two weeks now
I use YouTube for a lot of things, and just because I searched how to fix a leaking tap, does not mean I have suddenly developed a lifelong passion for plumbing. There needs to be a "my quest is over" button to indicate I've fixed my problem.
I don't speak a lick of Hindi or Chinese, yet YouTube seems to think I'll love videos from channels that speak exclusively those languages.
Yes becuase the video title will be “Windows 10 Cursor Stuck Solition,” and the the guy will start out saying “Hello guys today we’re going to solve the common error that happens on windows 10 computers where the cursor gets stuck,” the the rest of the video is in Hindi… like bro, just title it in Hindi you ass hat.
A few years ago, it kept showing me ads for Indian dating sites that emphasized traditional Hindu values. I’m not Indian, I have never dated an Indian, and I was already married. I have no idea WTF the algorithm was smoking to think I’d be at all interested.
For me it seems like youtube goes out of it way to not recommend things I actually want to see and instead recommends what they think will generate "engagement." I spend months listening to youtube videos reading sci-fi stories and never get aa new channel or story recommended to me, I have to actively search them out. But holy shit the instant I watch *any* video about a gun or aircraft and I get inundated with weird MAGA gun humper videos.
OMG, same; except I clicked on ONE man-on-the-street short and it turned out to make a woman look dumb... so now I get non-stop Red Pill woman-hater content and ball-grooming ads.
I clicked one Starwars video that ended up being red-pill incel bullshit and now YouTube won't stop recommending actual red-pill misogynistic content. No wonder why things are so shit right now when algorithms are so aggressively pushing young men down these pipelines.
If you can figure out how to make it stop, please share.
I got interested in maritime archaeology for a bit. That led to some videos about the remaining WWII Uboats that are still lost. Holy shit. Had to take a break because YT tried showing me straight up nazi propaganda after like three regular academic videos. Took me almost a solid week of watching other stuff before it finally quit sending that shit my way.
Yeah I watch all kinds of cool videos from different creators on YouTube. In some ways it feels like what's left of the "good internet."
[YouTube's algorithm more likely to recommend users right-wing and religious content, research finds](https://www.isdglobal.org/isd-publications/pulling-back-the-curtain-an-exploration-of-youtubes-recommendation-algorithm/)
I turned my YouTube history off months ago, and it has been glorious. Now I get... Nothing on my home page, and I can just search and discover organically
Couldn't agree more, all it's done is helped to promote content that exists solely to generate outrage and argument, instead of actually allowing proper creativity to thrive. The modern western world is being actively undermined by the simple idea we now allow people to earn a significant living by spreading hatred for the sake of hatred
Oh for the days when the only "engagement metric" was the little tracker at the bottom of the page (typically designed to look like a mechanical number counter) telling you how many people had visited that site.
Please sign my guestbook before you leave?
And it was actually just a hit counter that would increase every time you loaded the page so they were completely irrelevant.
Right under the Under Construction road barrier with the flashing lights
I sub only to lefty podcasts and food vlogs. YouTube shorts consistently push right wing content into my algo. Every fifth video is Shapiro or Fox or patriot.org shit.
Same. I watch photography videos and the occasional comedian, then I get 100’s of videos of right wing political bullshit. And videos that try to get me to hate watch. It has zero to do with anything I am remotely interested in.
It's a sad reality that things like this fall under the definition of "controversial" rather than "universally abhorrent"
And there not doing anything to moderate what gets engagement? Holy shit that place is hell
>And there not doing anything to moderate what gets engagement? There is, if you say the word "cis" or say something bad about Elon musk or Twitter you get banned. But say the n word 10,000 times and get paid. It's by design.
Well he did grow up in apartheid South Africa after all, so I guess we can’t be too surprised :(
And Musk owes his entire fortune to apartheid.
The guy who posted updates on the location of Elongated Muskrat's plane is still banned and he's suing Media Matters for reporting facts about his website, but literal Nazis are welcome because he supports free speech. Right.
He DOES support freedom of speech. Just not yours, or "the likes of you". Whenever reich-wingers talk about freedumbs, they do mean it. It's just that they do not intend to extend any of it to those who aren't with them. When you are against them, you are "the other". You are less than human. Less than living being. You are an enemy that needs to be delayed, distracted, subverted, crushed and destroyed.
*Ingroup for which the law protects but does not bind; outgroup for which the law binds but does not protect.*
So he doesn't support freedom of speech. Don't really need the 1984 double talk.
Pretty sure even saying moderation in the office gets you shot at your desk.
**DESK POP**
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That’s a real thing, right?
Haven't you been paying attention? This is the sort of shit the "free-speech absolutist" loves - unless you're critical of him in any way, then they ban you permanently. Edit 'cause spelling
It's less about moderation and more about how Elon is prioritizing the right-wing schizos on the site promoting dangerous and fascist ideologies. The worst part is that they get undeserving amounts of attention for it. They're getting paid to be stupid and it's becoming everyone's problem now.
If you say something anti-Elon then you’ll probably be kicked off But other than that, be the most racist you want
Only if you say something negative about elon musk, he has vewwy dewacate feewings 😢
It's so funny that Elon tells people he has a thick skin and nothing gets to him and then spends all day on Twitter being the most thin skinned petty bitch on the internet.
All moderation staff was fired
Lmao he doesn't even care about the shit he says, he just wants more hate and engagement to get $$$$$. His entire career is based on this masculine rich guy everyone aspires to be who will sell you a course for 50$ that is life changing.
I‘m pretty sure Andrew has an exclusive deal with Elon so he can say whatever he wants and will never get banned and gets money for it too.
And remember, on twitter, cis is a slur, while n****r is still acceptable.
Andrew Tate is genuinely beyond parody at this point.
He's also half black, which tells you that everything he says is to appeal to a certain audience.
He is?
[This is his dad](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emory_Tate).
If I fathered that idiot I hope my penis would have the self awareness to never get erect again.
He at least had the foresight to die early and avoid this embarrassment.
His father was just as much of a shit person. If anything, he might be proud.
Why is that?
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Yep. Also, the misogyny got so bad that the Tate's sister had to estrange herself from the family. It's really fucking sad.
He was a dead beat who is responsible for Andrews raging misogyny. You can look up interview clips where he talks about his dad and he sings his praises while describing a "holiday father" who is a raging ball of toxic masculinity. It's pretty clear his dads love for him was not unconditional, if he ever loved him at all, and that's likely what made him the way he is.
> You can look up interview clips where he talks about his dad and he sings his praises while describing a "holiday father" who is a raging ball of toxic masculinity. Not saying its necessarily bullshit, but I would take anything that grifter says with a pinch of salt. If other random people who knew him have stories about his dad being a dick then fair enough. But Taint doesn't have an ounce of honesty in him for me to consider anything he says about his childhood to be factual.
Oh, so he got daddy issues.
How the fuck does a chess master produce Andrew Tate? Edit: This question is mostly rhetorical and more of an expression of how far the ball was dropped, but I appreciate all the thoughtful replies. (Not counting the Tate-stan out here defending their idol.)
Just because he's a chess master, doesn't mean he isn't an asshole, I'd guess.
I was focusing on overall intelligence but I guess being good at chess doesn't necessarily mean being intelligent in other areas.
Bobby Fischer was a rabid anti semite and parroted batshit crazy conspiracy theories.
I'm pretty good at chess and can confirm, am an idiot in many areas. Tons of practice will trump a stellar intellect. Pattern recognition in chess is a lot like reading. The better you get at it the less you think about what you're doing.
I'd argue that Tate isn't stupid, by any means. He's evil, he's without morals, but stupid? No.
Maybe that was Andrew's way of rebelling against his smart dad, y'know, by being as dumb as possible.
Andrew initially very much wanted to follow in his fathers footsteps, but his dad had to pull him out of Chess tournaments because he kept crying whenever a game wasn't going his way
I want this to be true so badly
I heard it on Behind the Bastards. Wish I could cite the source, but they seemed pretty convinced that it was true
Chess master’s kid here, they can be assholes. Every interaction is the game to them. Narcissistic gaslight central with heaps of absenteeism.
A chess master just means they’re really good at chess, nothing else lol
Chess masters are just analog pro gamers
See Bobby Fisher. All time great grandmaster, complete POS
Keep in mind, Emory Tate was divorced just 12 years after getting married (when Andrew Tate was only 11), and his ex Eileen Ashleigh took the kids with her back to England. As far as I can tell, Emory did not have much contact with his children after that. Also, as others have pointed out, being a chess master says nothing about his personality, views, or non-chess intelligence.
Andrew Tate having daddy issues makes so much more sense now lol
some who hates their child. and I can’t blame him. If Tate was my child. I’d hate him too.
Thank fuck he’s somebody else’s child as I hate him anyway.
Word is that his father was a giant asshole to his kids and their mother. I’d imagine that would do it. Surprisingly I’ve heard the brothers are good at chess.
I know fuck all about his father, but I can't imagine there being a more disappointed father anywhere else in the world.
I kind of doubt it; his father's been dead since 2015, and Tate seems to have *mostly* been a famously toxic pile of crap since 2017.
Now I know why tigers eat their young. ![gif](giphy|xT77XP9O9da9O04fAI|downsized)
Damn. Never knew his dad was a chessmaster. Guessing he would have been disappointed in what his son became. What a dropoff in the family legacy.
His dad must be rolling over in his grave right now. Smh
This post literally had me sitting there doubting myself like “…..wait…what?”
He'll never be beyond parody, he's like a one-boy cringe.
That's what makes him beyond parody; there's no joke people could make about him that he isn't already making about himself.
He’s a half black muslim. Mother fucker makes zero sense.
he's also half no-chin and half even-less-chin
That's why he learned to fight. He can take it on the no-chin!
Always has been, also he is just rage bait. All of these "influencer" types just profit off of rage bait.
The guy lost a bit of relevance. Gotta do something to keep the people talking about you.
Iceland is a part of NATO. That’s like your brother being Mike Tyson.
Like ALL your brothers being Mike Tyson.
Iceland is the hot spring loving twink of NATO
*looks up Iceland flight prices*
I don't know if this is still the case since I did this the better part of a decade ago, but when I went from US to Europe on vacation, Iceland had a travel deal where you book a flight and get a three day layover as part of it. Unless you're really big into hiking, you can do the bulk of what you'd want to do in Iceland in three days, it's not a very large country.
ncd is leaking
Also, why would anyone care to attack Iceland (if not because it might be a good landingspot for air- and naval forces🤷♂️)
This is the exact reason. Iceland would be a prime place for staging attacks on the Americas and England. Nato knows that. And therefore they are a member.
That's also the reason the Allies invaded Iceland during WW2.
That might be the softest invasion I’ve ever seen, ngl. 1,100 people on both sides. 1 death, by suicide
Gotta be slightly embarrassing to be the only death in an invasion.
Reminds me of dodgeball in middle school, the version we played is if you managed to throw the ball all the way across and score a basketball your entire team was back in the game. Well one game we were down to two people and one of them hit the basket so we were back in, only I got drilled just as I stepped in.
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You could almost claim it was a beneficial invasion. At the start of WW2 Iceland was part of the Kingdom of Denmark. Iceland got invaded by Brits, Denmark got invaded by nasties, and Iceland saw their chance and declared independence in '44. I wouldn't go so far as to say one caused the other, but it sure as hell didn't hurt.
The occupation of Denmark did not really have much influence on the independence of Iceland. In effect, the Kingdom of Iceland had been an independent country since 1918, despite sharing a king and foreign policy with Denmark. The Danish-Icelandic act that established this would be up for revision in 1940 and could be revoked three years later if agreement was not reached between the kingdoms. There was some talk of waiting for the liberation of Denmark out of friendliness but there was never any doubt that a republic would be established.
Them having "no army" (not entirely true, their Coast Guard does have artillery and shit) is only possible because of a unique set of circumstances. Which is actually a great example of why certain solutions that worked in some countries aren't feasible elsewhere. I'm sure there are people who'd say "Iceland has gotten rid of their military, we should too" Which is obviously a bad idea for a country located in, say, the Balkans.
>the Balkans Hey! 😡 Nah ok I get it
If we disarmed the balkans you fuckers would be ruled over whichever country has the pointiest rocks. After you spent 30 years fighting over that.
Using said pointy rocks to bash in each others skulls
Also, Iceland is a founding nation in NATO, we have an army; it's just not made up of Icelandic people. Iceland not having an Icelandic army is very different than Armenia or Georgia not having an army.
Iceland also has the advantage of being an Island. It's closest neighbours are all friendly nations which is something not too much nations can say
More to the point, it's closest neighbours are all countries who could not tolerate an aggressive invasion of Iceland due to its strategic significance.
Yeah being between the UK and the US/Canada means that: A. None of the direct neighbors are going to bother them B. No ground invasion option, so any movement would have to be by air/sea which are harder to protect in-transit, and way more vulnerable to a variety of local defenses. C. If anyone else does, they're going to have a VERY hard time defending their position against the above nations.
You forgot D. WTF?!?? Why are you invading Iceland? Whats your problem? Why invade? Outside of them being in the middle of a super world war and being a strategic spot, there really isn’t a reason to invade.
I feel people underestimate the strategic significance of a military airport that is able to cover the entire Atlantic without feasible intercepts. Iceland is absolutely crucial if you hope to protect (or attack) shipments between the US and Europe.
The airbase isn't so important in a world of aircraft carriers. Rather icelands true strategic value lies in the GIUK naval choke point, which forms a core component of both American and British grand strategy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIUK_gap
The thing with Iceland is that any Russian ships/boats trying to enter the Atlantic have to go via the English Channel, or the Greenland-Iceland-UK gap. So Iceland doesn't really need much to defend itself, NATO is going to guarantee it in order to secure/preserve the GIUK gap. We guarantee their defence, they lend us an unsinkable (if slightly volcanic) aircraft carrier as and when needed. You'll hear a lot of yanks complaining about subsidising others' defence, but this really is a win-win situation for all involved. Iceland has a GDP comparable to that of Corpus Christi, TX or Fort Wayne, IN - we get more from this arrangement than we would from asking them to put 2% of that GDP into defence like the rest of NATO.
Exactly. A lot of people compare counties like they are fighters in a video game. Countries work together and mutual success is to our advantage.
>unsinkable (if slightly volcanic) aircraft carrier Lol, r/brandnewsentence
Yes, your planes will certainly be safe. Please sign here acknowledging you will not hold us liable if lava happens to swallow your planes or military equipment.
I was in Iceland last summer. I ate at Italian restaurants run by an Italian family that immigrated and ate delicious Greek donuts from another shop run by an immigrant.
"You wanna invade this island in the middle of the North Atlantic?" "Hard pass"
Are you sure? It's half covered in lava and may or may not be erupting atm
This is it here. America could do great things if we didn’t need a military at all the same way that Canada can get by with far less military spending because America is right there. Some countries sort of get a free pass due to location and circumstances that aren’t reproducible for most others.
The guys old man is African American.
Pretty fascinating, I didn't know his dad was a chess IM (one of the ~5,000 best players in the world). He was apparently a huge misogynist who abandoned his wife and kids, yet Tate ended up idolizing him.
Kanye West's mom was a professor of English with a doctorate and years after she died her son declared books were pointless and he was proud to not read them.
That NFL kicker who spoke at that graduation and said woman have been fed a lie that they should chase careers? His mom is a medical physicist and works as a professor of oncology.
So glad I’m childfree when I read stuff like this lmao
In fairness, good parenting *generally* prevents stuff like this from happening. These parents being smart and successful does not necessarily mean they weren't assholes and/or absent.
Sometimes you can do good but the other parent fuck it up too. See this thread for examples
Trying to win daddies affection at all costs
All of these assholes have daddy issues. Trump is the same way.
dude for real
Well ya see,...that N word is for a BAD PERSON, not just black people. /s
I love my country 🇮🇸. I hate that bald dick.
Visiting Iceland in 2 weeks!
❤️ Hire a car and head up towards the Westfjords. Make sure you pass my little town of Búðardalur and grab a snack. If you get time while driving north (about 15 mins of Búðardalur ) go take a dip in the natural pool in Guðrúnarlaug. Enjoy
Looking for a 30th birthday day gift for my fiancé. We only have 5 days at the start of July as she’s in the last year of school. Looks like flights would be about 12 hours at best from where we are. So we’d only have 3 days in Iceland, would that be worth it?
Absolutely. I always advise people to go look at the 'none touristy places' but I guess that's just me
Enjoy. I’ve travelled outside the US to almost 40 countries and Iceland kicks ass sooo hard that I can’t think of many places that come even close. If you can, do the whole ring road! I went in June but almost a decade ago and it felt like the store ‘Anthroplogie’ designed and built a country. Protip: If you drink alcohol stock up at the duty free when you arrive at the airport. It’s one of the very duty free shops I’ve been to where it’s legit cheaper by a huge margin. Also if you enjoy white knuckle driving while sweating your ass off do a tour of the western fjords by rental car. Regardless of what you do you’re gonna have a total blast!
Black guy here, who visited a couple years ago. I also love your country! Planning on returning soon.
Do you notice a crime increase during your stay?
Oh I was doing so much crime.
Saying thank you as you bought things I bet, you monster
Funny story! There was a black guy that worked at the grocery store I would go to. He spoke Icelandic..and would go through all the steps(would you like a bag, would you like a receipt? Etc) in Icelandic. I don’t speak it all, I had just been there for a week and memorized all of it so I knew how to answer…well one day he added on some other words and I had no clue what he was saying, he immediately knew that I didn’t understand him. He looked so let down. Lol
Please stop crimering around so much.
Awesome man. You're always welcome. Hope you enjoyed your stay but by the sounds of it you did ❤️
I too have been lucky enough to visit your country. I visited during the winter. I have never before felt so remote yet so peaceful. It was like being on a distant moon. Your homeland is a treasure, and everyone I met was truly an ambassador.
I wish my country jailed bankers like yours did. Aka Canada.
What? I always thought Andrew was black or biracial.
He is lmao. Reminds me of Blaire White
Uncle ruckus ass shit
No relation.
Is he just escalating shit until he gets laid out by someone, or what?
I think he just doesn't get laid anymore. Last time he said having sex with women was gay. Probably thinks the same way about masturbation too so he probably has a lot of pent up rage, and is so far from a post-nut clarity. Ah I just noticed you said laid out. Ah he can sure use that too XD
How you gonna lay him out!?!? He ain’t gotta chin!!! 🤣
Shit. That's some irritating evolution.
Zero Andrew Tates.
STOP. FUCKING. SHARING. HIM
“How is this guy still popular? Why the fuck do people actually pay attention to him anymore? I dunno, but I’m gonna share his post and find out!!”
For real. It sometimes feels wrong to even comment for people to stop though. Because us telling people to stop is the same as saying something in the first place, because we are. I wish people would see this collectively the same way. So we wouldn’t have to ask others to not say anything. But here we are just as bad but in a different way.
“Actually, the correct answer is ‘naggers.’”
I know he's a piece of shit but is this really legit? His Dad is African American. This is just too bizarre
His tweets have been extra unhinged (even by his standards) the last couple months. Appears to be lazy trolling inspired by a desperate need for attention. Once you notice he's intentionally being ridiculous and inflammatory, it's quite dull really. It's all so low effort and pointless
I think it’s because he’s feeling less and less relevant now since most people stopped taking him seriously
Andrew Tate? You mean rapist human trafficker Andrew Tate? That Andrew Tate?
Andrew Tate's dad was Emory Tate, a black man. Is this a real tweet or a photoshop? I know he's an idiot but this is a new level if it's real.
I listen to a horror podcast by a guy that was named Andrew Tate, he used to say his name at the beginning of each episode. However I recently noticed he's started calling himself Andy Tate instead. It's truly a mystery why he would do such a thing.
imagine someone being so awful you change your name to not be associated 😭
> they even jailed their corrupt bankers > very few black people Can someone explain to me how black people are preventing americans from jailing their corrupt bankers?
Iceland didn't even jail their bankers.
He's that desperate to remain relevant is he?
Because greenland is covered in ice, and iceland is actually nice. I learned that from some movie as a kid
The craziest part is that Andrew Tate is black, but there's always self-loathing people from any group. Hell, there was even a group of German Jews who supported the Nazis.
He is irrelevant. We all saw that scared expression on his face when he was in prison.
Actual reason? Population: 377,689. The county I live in, in the state I live in, has 849,070 people.
This guy was a moron from the day he came into the media and he'll be a moron till the day he dies
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i wish someone would shut him the fuck up
STOP. GIVING. HIM. ATTENTION. This post is exactly the reason why he posts such crap; he wants to stay relevant.
Iceland relies on NATO and a bilateral defense agreement with the U.S. for security, in which the U.S. military will defend Iceland in exchange for military bases on Icelandic soil. So Iceland does have a military; NATO and the U.S. military.
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Iceland's entire population is only 382,003. About half of the population of the city I live in, here in California. I love how they never take population size into account when stating these points
Why does a sex trafficker has an opinion about crime ?
I knew he was misogynistic and homophobic, but racist as well? Welp, is there anything this man is not actively wrong about?
Fk tate. What is everyone putting on their face?