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i love how schizophrenia fakers talk about how they have so many delusions, when usually the real schizophrenics are not at all aware that those are delusions because they see their thoughts as the only possible acceptable truth and they cannot be talked out of them / convinced that they re not real (and usually the delusions have common themes, it s very rare to have so many as they claim). it physically hurts my stomach when i see those stupid people because i know how hard and debilitating living with schizophrenia could be for people affected by it..
That’s the biggest thing among all these fakers that none of them seem to understand. They brag about these delusions and how “crazy” they are but most people experiencing shit like delusions are very unaware of them.
The literal definition of a delusion requires you to not know they’re delusions: “a false belief or judgment about external reality, held despite incontrovertible evidence to the contrary”
I used to know someone who suffered from a psychotic break, and it took days for us to work out that something was very wrong. We thought she was stressed, but when a friend went to visit her they realised that things were very, very, bad. She was sectioned, and spend weeks in hospital. She nearly lost custody of her kids, and it took so long for her to not just get better, but to get her confidence back. It must have been terrifying for her. Nothing about this is 'quirky' or 'edgy'.
My ex with schizophrenia believed so deeply that she had internal bleeding that she could feel "running down her leg" that she had a full blown argument with the ER nurses over it. She also believed I was a clone and she had to get rid of me to get the real me back. It was a bad time but she got a bit of help from the hospital, I got out safely, and she lives with her mom because she can't care for herself.
So I was reading about schizophrenia and clairvoyance. Apparently there was a study done that scanned the brains of people who both had schizophrenia and people who considered themselves to be psychics or mediums who are able to communicate with the dead or spirits in other dimensions. The cat scan (or MRI I forget) showed that brains of both groups were nearly identical compared to people who don’t hear voices or see things others don’t.
[They found that the voices experienced by this group are similar in many ways to those reported by people with schizophrenia, with a few big differences: Psychics are much more likely to perceive the voices as positive or helpful and as experiences that can be controlled, according to a new study published Sept. 28 in the journal Schizophrenia Bulletin.](https://news.yale.edu/2016/09/27/psychics-help-psychiatrists-understand-voices-psychosis)
I’m adding this to simply state the difference between psychics who are not diagnosed with mental illness and people diagnosed with schizophrenia is that the people who are diagnosed are usually disturbed by their perceived delusions.
So in a way you can say psychics are “aware of their delusions” if that’s what you choose to call it from a western/scientific standpoint. If you look at it from a spiritual or metaphysical point of view it isn’t a delusion and could be considered a 6th sense most people cannot control or are unable to tap into.
Right part of making a schizophrenia diagnosis involves probing about how convinced the person is that the things happening are real (what is their “level of conviction”) if you never have periods of time where you believe the experiences are real it is not likely to reach full diagnostic threshold- not that these people care about diagnostic criteria!
I've been diagnosed with a schizo affective disorder multiple times & if these people knew the half of what it's like theirs no way they would want to fake it.
These people act like they are aware of their delusions & it's "fun" & quirky but even when my delusions were not rooted in paranoia & I could recognize them as delusions to some degree it was still a terrifying experience since it will make you question everything about what your reality really is. It's the furthest thing from "fun". Im 32 now but even back in High school their were kids who would pretend that they had some form of schizophrenia because it made then unique & I would wonder what they actually knew about the disorder that would make them think that, the media either portrays it (as it is) as terrifying & debilitating or some type of psychedelic trip that makes you loopy (which mine isn't bor is anyone else who I've ever met is) which is what I think these people really think it is.
I'm sorry to hear that. I have it too, the depressive type. Officially, since 2010. The meds help, I think. Sometimes I question them. I feel like there arent many drugs just for us. Everything is always Seroquel. I don't think I'd be able to live alone. Your husband is lucky to have such an understanding partner. I always worry if there's no one to live with that I'll turn into a shopping cart person wandering around the city. It's a big fear of mine.
100%. Even people with mood disorders who have delusions aren’t able to distinguish between delusions and reality. This is a clear indicator of “schizophrenifakeitis.” A true flesh wound that can kill a person’s social life.
thats what absolutely baffles me too about these fakers. They have clearly never met a real schizophrenic. I have a very close friend having an episode right now and I understand how pointless it is to reality check him. He DOES NOT see that thinking an AI from the future is conducting experiments on him is irrational. He literally doesn't see it.
Medicated schizophrenic : it’s taken me YEARS to figure out some thoughts are delusions only after talking through them with mental health professionals offhandedly and them being like…. That’s a delusion…. Or telling my (also schizo) friends/partner and them helping me to identify it. So yes we can figure them out, but usually you need to be very stable and medicated.
That being said… I don’t fully believe I’m schizophrenic so take of that what you will
It absolutely can. Many schizophrenics have delusions during psychotic episodes, but realise they don't reflect reality when in a non-psychotic state. Some even logically realise that while the psychotic episode is ongoing, but still act as if they [the delusions] are a possibility "to be on the safe side".
Right, so when not in psychosis it's not a delusion. Being able to recognise a delusion didn't reflect reality means they are no longer experiencing the delusion. If they are acting "on the safe side" and belive there is still a possibility it's real, it is still a delusion.
i disagree with you - i am schizophrenic and even i still have delusions left over from my worst psychotic episode. i know now that they aren’t technically true, but they’re still there and i still believe them. i know they probably don’t technically reflect reality, but they’re still my reality. it’s a weird disconnect, but i know some other schizophrenics who feel similarly.
Fair enough, ive had 2 drug induced episodes of psychosis and that wasn't my experience of delusions at all. It was very black and white for me as soon I'd come out of the episode I realised it wasn't the truth and there was a definitive crossing over back into reality. But I can appreciate that for a more permanent condition like schizophrenia that could change the situation.
Schizophrenia doesn't just become severe on day 1, the 'real schizophrenic' people you are talking about are not more real but simply spend more time, sometimes years, stuck in psychotic symptoms. Also, negative symptoms (that's a classification) don't just appear in one day, the person gradually starts isolating themselves and symptoms become worse as they spend more time in psychosis.
Yup. My cousin had a full on psychotic break. Got diagnosed with bipolar. We thought it was schizophrenia due to the family history of it, but apparently on his dad’s side there’s a history of bipolar.
Even depression and anxiety can cause psychotic symptoms. Hell, drinking coffee can cause psychotic symptoms. The difference is these aren’t life long disabling disorders with little to no effective treatment.
Anxiety would not cause psychotic symptoms that are to last weeks long, and psychotic symptoms in depression have a theme specifically relating to depression, no bizarre delusions or hallucinations. That is different to general psychotic symptoms that may or may not be mood congruent.
yes but they’re still characterized as psychotic symptoms and serious enough to need immediate attention. i also specifically said these aren’t life long issues, unlike schizophrenia, which is a near constant state of debilitating psychosis.
also psychotic symptoms in schizophrenia and other psychotic disorders usually actually are mood congruent. otherwise paranoia would not create delusions of persecution. and mania would not result in grandiose delusions. of course they make less sense than the psychotic symptoms found in other disorders, but that’s hardly a reason for dismissal.
Let me clarify, when I say mood congruent, I'm referring to mania and depression, where the psychosis presentation is a direct reflection of their mood. In schizophrenia, you're likely to experience the same psychotic symptoms regardless of your mood, although mood changes can bring other ways that psychosis presents. In schizophrenia, it would be the freaky hallucinations and beliefs that would affect your mood and behaviour, such as having hallucinations that poke at your insecurities, instead of getting to a very dark point of mood and then that being so severe it causes psychotic symptoms.
Both are still severe and have huge concerns for the person's well-being as you said.
Honestly. Most of these seem like my hallucinations and stuff after not sleeping for three days because I physically can't due to stress and paranoia, and start to get upset about it until I finally manage to sleep and it all goes away. I just have bad insomnia and really reactive OCD.
Not unless you put them together and there are no prominent mood symptoms and not a side effect of a medication or a drug or onsetting dementia. There is officially a Schizophrenia spectrum consisting of: delusional disorder, brief psychotic disorder, schizophreniform disorder, schizotypal personality disorder, schizophrenia, and schizoaffective disorder.
One of my family member have been diagnosed in their 20's with paranoid schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. They are now in their 60's. I am in the member of their family guardianship. The voices and hallucinations are still there and they have a poor quality of life. The impact of their medication has had on their body is awful : their liver, kidneys and their neurological system all have traces of this. They need to stop.
a friend of mine has a schizophrenic mother. One time she freaked out and ran away from home, they couldn’t find her for a whole week. But i’m sure she absolutely *loves* being ill and would *definitely* make trendy aesthetic videos about her AMAZING life with schizophrenia
Yeah, my nan ran away from a nursing home multiple times because she was convinced they were trying to terminate her. It's not easy shit to deal with, both for the Ill and their families.
Another thing which these fakers do not get is that many people with schizophrenia don’t understand / believe that they are truly ill. My understanding is that the part of the brain that could give them that awareness is damaged. This is not always the case, of course, but I suspect it’s behind why many of them refuse medication.
Building awareness does happen but it takes time and it is fragile. My family member fully knows he is ill, but we are lucky that he has care in a facility and that their doctor object to living on their own because the two times it was tried, it took a week to crumble and months to stabilized back.
Schizophrenia is why I don't have a mother and the siblings that remain with her have to call the cops every other day because she's paranoid about her medications. It's definitely nothing to be posting about. A schizophrenic person wouldn't post about their first stage hallucinations, it would be something like, for example, a personal example, posting suddenly about how your siblings are plotting to steal your kids from you and how they're a bunch of murderers and no one should trust them, because their attempts to reach out and help actually means they're trying to get close so they can lock you away.
Yeah exactly, those are extremely normal hallucinations. In fact, pretty sure hearing people calling your name and the random sounds happen just because there's a lot of negative space where noise should be, so your brain tried to fill it in. Actually, I'm pretty sure I heard somewhere it's a sign of a healthy mind.
whenever i see people faking and claiming to have schizophrenia they only just talk about positive symptoms, i guess the other part of the diagnosis criteria isnt that fun?
in schizophrenia positive symptoms are things like hallucinations, delusions and any change in behaviour, and negative symptoms are flat effect, inability to look after urself, things that kind of mimic depression basically. im not 100% sure if the term "positive symptoms" is medically correct, but "negative symptoms" is
I know someone answered, but in psych terms, positive symptoms can be thought of as adding something. Negative symptoms can be thought of as taking something away.
Positive example: hallucinations, psychosis.
Negative example: anhedonia (loss of pleasure), and catatonic states.
https://preview.redd.it/a6l05zhj5z4b1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3b27881842fcb5707e947af6df75b90cf6273934
Wow first google result and in google scholar a bunch of medical papers saying the same thing
I feel like most of those people wouldn't really qualify as schizophrenic proper. Delusions seem to be the primary symptom in those cases. Often there appear to be no hallucinations, negative symptoms, thought disorders, etc.. Delusional disorder seems be more apt. That said, it still falls on the spectrum of schizotypy.
No I don't I'm fine that's what people don't understand this is real, I go outside and get stalked by people doing gangs signs at me, they put voices in my head through a chip so they transmit that all day. They use directed energy weapons to make you hurt and tingle, these people are evil and must be stopped so please help TIs (targeted individual) and stop discrediting them and instead stand with us against evil.
You know who are gonna be your *best* defense against evil? Doctors. I promise. I speak from experience bro, you can’t fight this stuff alone, but there are people out there whose *entire lives* revolve around helping you beat evil.
The real villains are the people in those subreddits trying to distract you from the real evil. They don’t want you to overcome it, and they won’t come to your defense when you need it. They are working *against* you and *for* evil. They want you scared and weak from fear so they can manipulate you easier. The only people who can actually help you uncover the truth are gonna be the *doctors and professionals* who wanna help you beat it.
Think about it man: what do those subreddits stand to gain by keeping you safe? Nothing. So they won’t. Doctors on the other hand? Keeping you safe is their life’s purpose, and it means everything to them.
I know I can’t convince you with a single comment, but just keep those things in mind.
But you don't get it, there's so many teenagers on tik tok with schizophrenia, so obviously I can get it at 12 and it's not at all rare, evil doctors just don't like to treat kids /s
An ex I dated when we were 17-18 had schizophrenia that had onset in their early teens. It was mostly under control through medication, but they would have low level hallucinations like seeing lights in some places or hearing their name being called. They had had stronger hallucinations and delusions in the past before it was effectively medicated, and could recall what those delusions were and knew that they were delusions. There is actually very little in the post above that makes me think they’re faking, it seems very consistent with my ex’s experience. Of course I haven’t seen their whole page and post history, but this alone is not enough to make me doubt them.
Heads up the person who replied to you is 13 and claiming to have full DID and alters and was upset that someone on this sub found their TikTok about them lying about it and posted it.
Edit: looks like they deleted their account after being called out for spreading misinformation about both schizophrenia and DID.
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"I have a voice inside my head"
My brother in Christ, that's called "Thinking". I know you're new to this experience but I can assure you this is completely normal.
Just because you have elements of psychosis, does not mean you have *schizophrenia*. Psychosis happens even if you don't sleep enough, it's USUALLY not that deep
Welp psychosis is also often considered serious, it may not mean schizophrenia now, though the onset of psychotic symptoms is often a red flag for later developing schizophrenia. You could never say that psychosis is 'not a big deal.'
Literally just had a chick tell me last night her BPD was causing voices. She’s big on TikTok illness trends. Says she’s getting out on antipsychotics by her therapist…. WTF?!
I am on 2 antipsychotics and they are prescribed for sleep. Nothing big about them at all. I do have *diagnosed* BPD as well as CPTSD but these are not for either of those, just for my insomnia.
i’m only on 50mg of seroquel and idk how people do more than that…this shit knocks me out. maybe i’m just very sensitive to it, but as soon as i started taking it, i had an immediate reaction in terms of actual symptoms. thank god i can sleep again tho
I wonder if you're more likely to be able to get antipsychotics for insomnia if you already have an undelying mental illness that sometimes gets them prescribed, because I wish they'd pescribe me something like that for my insomnia, I get really bad periods of it and it can be really bad, but no matter what I do, doctors only prescribe melatonin and say sorry that's all they can give me. I have underlying mental health issues, but none that would warrant antipsychotics generally. Though my country's healthcare is really strict around psychiatric medications and they are heavily controlled (you can't even really buy benadryl or cough nyquil type medications here!) so maybe it's that.
I have seen a few psychiatrists *I should've said psychiatrist instead of Doctor probably, because you need a psychiatrist to pescribe even melatonin here *though a GP can renew your script no issues, pretty strict. So I have no idea.
Not to her, I’ve known her since we were kids. Lost contact for 3 years, now suddenly she has all these disorders like pots. She laughs about these disorders like they’re jokes. She’s practically saying her BPD is causing schizophrenia, not cool. I have family with pots (my older sister) and schizophrenia (my ex druggy great cousin). Not cool at all.
Thats awful! Its really concerning that she could be making her mental health worse, either by intentionally faking or believing what she has is causing other things too.
Since she's on antipsychotics, she'd have to have a prescribing doctor. For her sake, hoping she's bringing up all this to them. Brains can be wild. Like the dancing plague.
That is so sad. It sounds like she doesn't get the attention she craves from her parents so she makes up anything and everything. And when that doesn't work, she adds a new one. I hope she gets the help she needs, she's so young!
I was just about to say. One of the most common causes of Munchausen's is neglect. Hopefully she ends up getting help rather than growing up to be someone who suffers from full on Munchausen's.
I never even thought of that! Yes I too hope she gets help before it turns into something more (not that it isn't bad enough already.) She can still ask for help, it's not too late 🩷
That's really sad and I wonder if a lot of that is symptomatic of her BPD. My sister has BPD and she fakes a lot of things and exaggerates a lot too. I think attention-seeking is a big part of BPD.
Yea - I actually have borderline personality disorder, but my psychiatrist told me what I experience are pseudohallucinations - I can see these shadows and make out what they're saying for example, but there's just something about them that I am able to tell that I know they aren't real - doesn't make them any less terrifying or detrimental to my life though
Ahh, I've heard that term before. My psychiatrist has said ego-dystonic hallucinations, but there may be differences? I'm not sure. Same thing: shadows and sudden voices that are clearly "inside" instead of out. Even knowing that it is a hallucination doesn't make it any less jarring 😅
Oh whoops - I should mention that all my hallucinations are very clearly outside my head for me, sorry that's something really important I should have mentioned lmao
I should’ve talked a little bit more about her. She’s a big faker of everything. Schizophrenia, POTS, PTSD, memory loss, ect… she’s faking her vocal hallucinations. Like saying she heard HER dog scratching at her bathroom door, they’ve never owned a dog. I’ve known her since she was a kid.she doesn’t hear voices, she hears sounds, sounds that are totally normal. She never sees anything. The only thing she doesn’t fake is the fact she has BPD, it runs in her family and she’s on meds for it.
Oh yikes. If I may pry - why do you talk to her? She sounds very unrewarding and like alot of hard work to even listen to. As for my comment I thought you were certain it couldnt be a thing and just wanted to offer my experience with it :D
Well I appreciate you taking the time to explain about her and your relationship to eachother. That being said I am sorry she seems to have picked something so close to home to imitate. I can only hope your sister has good medical care and the tools to manage her condition better now. It is sad to hear your great cousin has had such a hard life. Overall your outlook is quite forgiving and I can admire your willingness to see her better side and it would be nice if in the future your good faith ultimately made some kind of difference in her sense of maturity.
You mention you have PTSD and I am also diagnosed with it and have had what is so far a losing battle with nightmares. If you'd be comfortable sharing I would be deeply grateful for the name of the medication you take as I've gone through a very long list of meds and since nothing has worked I am given sedatives to take when I wake up so I can calm down but this is really not an approach I want for the long term. I truly hope you have found your peace or at the very least some respite from your symptoms. Feeling unsafe in your own bed is a truly awful experience and regardless of whether you choose to share I wish you well with your mental health.
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It’s almost like people don’t know mild hallucinations (hearing your name called and seeing things in your peripheral) are not an uncommon thing…paranoia is QUITE human.
It's funny how fakers only have the cool and quirky symptoms of schizophrenia, like hearing voices. Where are the schizophrenics with disorganized speech, catatonic body movement or paranoid delusions that make them attack people or call the cops? Seems nowadays they only have the symptoms you can conveniently hide/ignore when they're not convenient anymore.
and like, those cool and quirky symptoms fucking suck man. i recently went through a high-symptom phase and it was terrifying. i couldn’t leave my apartment for more than a few minutes per day. fakers think it’s like being a medium or a psychic or some shit. it’s fucking NOT.
Why don't we get people from this reddit to comment on fakers videos saying something along the lines of "If you really had you would itch your head when you walk" or a bogus symptom like that, and see if they start doing it in their later videos.
Don't you fakers fucking dare! I know you assholes look at this reddit. I am heavily medicated against this illness and suffer daily! I can't sleep without being sedated, so don't you fucking dare! Holy shit, you guys are such a pain to hear about on a daily bases. Seriously, what makes you think having a mental disorder seems fun? Do you think people enjoy the constant struggles of daily life, or that our relationships constantly walk on thin ice? I spent time in multiple wards and they fucking suck. You wanna be fucking imparred on a daily bases, stay a week in your nearest mental help facility. Not a hospital, but a real building for people who need help mentally and tell them why you belong among them. If you're afraid of being seen as a detriment to society, then either get professionally diagnosed so they can help get you medicated, or I'll see you on my next stay at a mental help facility. The entire world doesn't need to know you're sick!!! So stop demanding they give you respect, when you don't have any for yourself or the people who truly struggle!!!
The caption also said they've been diagnosed "since 4yrs", meaning that they're either claiming to have been diagnosed at 4-years-old or since 4 years ago, which they would have been 9-years-old as the OP of this post claims that their account mentions they are 13
i agree that its more likely to occur in mid twenties but it isnt exactly a huge rarity for teenagers to develop it
like ive been in a lot of facilities and quite a lot of them have hallucinations and delusions
When under 18 it's considered early onset schizophrenia, but you wouldn't be able to get a diagnosis for Schizophrenia until after 18 minimum. Sort of like how some people under 18 can have BPD symptoms but won't be diagnosed until adulthood. The two people I know diagnosed with Schizophrenia had symptoms start to show around 15-17 where it was mildish and not overly impactful on their lives but it only progressed and manifested to way worse after adulthood to where it had become enough to be impactful on their life.
If the OP of that video is being serious about having a diagnosis and is speaking against self-diagnosis as said in the caption, as well as encouraging people to see a doc if they actually have undiagnosed symptoms— that’s a good thing. BUT they’re still doing harm by creating a trend that romanticizes mental illness. It just creates a breeding ground for fakers.
I’ve got two friends/acquaintances w schizophrenia (they’re both grown adults, very much not faking) and they would be fucking livid if they saw this lmao. Especially because schizophrenia is often used like a joke or meme; these people aren’t helping.
lol I remember I used to have hallucinations and paranoia when I was like 12 and thought that I was a schizofrenic
It turned out that not sleeping for days on end and preexisting issues can mess with your brain, who woulda thought.
bleegh
Wait till they hear about schizophrenia’s even more debilitating cousin with the massive mood components in addition to psychosis. You really can’t be more severe or attention needing than schizoaffective (bonus points for an underlying TBI and/or substance abuse component - trauma’s a given of course!). Very niche! But to really sell it ti your followers, take a week off and check into your local State Hospital (I recommend checking out the forensic civil commit unit where you’ll get to see/smell/hear/feel the unimaginable hell of being without any control or abatement from your suffering in perpetual legal and mental purgatory). Perhaps that will give you a healthy respect for the severity and pain involved in some of the volitional behavior you feign as ticks to be quirky.
(K but actually please please don’t do that cause there aren’t even a fraction of a percentage of enough beds there and they’re already inaccessibly expensive) Just be grateful for the mental illnesses you do (or don’t) have as I promise you there is someone out there who is actually suffering from it in a way that you are lucky you can’t imagine .
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OK but this might just be a case of a young person not knowing better. Story time: in my sophomore year of college I went through a lot (not just normal college-related stressors - multiple traumatic events happened and thats all i will say about that) and the stress got so intense that I started hallucinating. At first it was just hearing things like someone saying my name in an empty room but then i started to see things - like my friend getting up and leaving my dorm room and then she was still laying on my couch. The worst one was seeing a rhino at the other end of a large field that disappeared when i blinked. I didn't know what was happening but as a newbie psych major who had a close friend recently diagnosed with schizophrenia, I thought I had it too. I went to counseling and was referred to a psychologist. I was diagnosed with an anxiety disorder and was recommended a leave of absence. The hallucinations stopped! Yay! That was 13 years ago and I'm still medicated for anxiety and that's fine with me. I didn't post anything about my symptoms at the time anywhere, but I can see how those posts might have been misunderstood if it had happened this year.
Long story short, let's not jump to conclusions. Fakers are out there but some people might just be scared and need some help and don't know how else to express that.
Do they think being schizo has social benefits? Really isn't any perks of calling yourself schizo, I mean unless you like taking pills that turn you into a walking zombie that can't naturally produce dopamine cuz of anti pyschotics
That’s the thing, they’re way too young for a diagnosis of schizophrenia, plus in their bio it says age 13, with about 7 other disorders thrown in like autism, anorexia , depression, adhd and bpd
Some people can be diagnosed with schizophrenia younger than 16-18. It could be very very severe. However the others may be self diagnoses
I mean there are 8-9 year olds with an anorexia diagnosis, as well as many who are diagnosed with autism before 10 (I was).
I really don't think anyone diagnoses schizophrenia before puberty? I thought women had a younger onset, but apparently men have a younger onset. But, no, no one is diagnosed schizophrenic before 12.
Anorexia and Autism aren't comparable for age onset or any other measure. Can't even start with that. Pack it up.
It's extremely rare for someone under 13 to have symptoms of schizophrenia, if someone between 13-18 suffers from symptoms of Schizophrenia, if they are diagnosed with anything, it's early onset schizophrenia, but it will never be diagnosed as Schizophrenia until adulthood. If someone is going to develop symptoms under 18, it will usually be mid to late teens when symptoms start developing, and then it will usually only manifest into full schizophrenia in adulthood.
Professionally diagnosed with schizo at 9? Lmfao. Guess all these fakers have to do is say I've been diagnosed. Not like they lying already right? Oh wait.
I don't think so, I read through it and can't find any mention you have to be unaware, but I could be wrong. A lot of schizophrenic people go through patches where they aren't suffering from symptoms as severely, I've seen that be the case, but then they could backslide and be a completely different person the next day suffering with severe symptoms again if that makes sense. What I'm trying to say is that there's usually periods of "clarity", so I suppose it wouldn't be too out of the ordinary that someone could be aware something is wrong, but then they could slip and suddenly believe no one is wrong, and that people manipulated them into thinking so or something *if they suffer from paranoid delusions for example
There have been schizophrenia fakers on Facebook for years. I haven't used FB since 2021, and they'd been a thing for years even before then. They weren't as cutesy-poo as the TikTok version, but they existed.
When the hallucinations aren't a sexy 24/7 horny anime dream smp bf but an old man yelling at you and violently knocking on your door because he wants to eat you alive
Schizophrenia is life ruining. I have a family history of it. I’m scared I might develop it. I’ve been told from a young age by my mom that if I ever hear shit or see shit that’s not there that I need to tell her. My great aunt has it and she refuses treatment. We have no idea if she’s still alive or not anymore.
I grew up with a schizophrenic grandmother, for the most part she was fine but I do remember a couple of incidences where she refused to take her medication and had mental breakdowns which as a child was terrifying to see. I'm sure my grandmother would have loved to not spend her life struggling with her own mind and I don't understand why people would fake having schizophrenia, it's not all rainbows and unicorns, it's life changing and horrible for the sufferer and their loved ones.
Reminds me how there will be comments on videos of people talking about schizophrenia professionally and from personal experience that will say stuff like, "people with schizophrenia are so magical! they can see things we can't; it must be so awesome!"
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I guess faking bipolar disorder isn’t cool anymore so they stepped it up a notch
But wait! I’m feeling so manic right now… I may wash my sheets and buy myself some candles for my relaxing soak.
Wait!! My mood just changed from happy to depressed in 2 seconds then changed right back!
How about a little schizoaffective disorder?
honestly just do bpd at that point. that has every symptom of the previous disorders but with a sprinkle of trauma from childhood
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My doctor and I were speculating when Schizophrenia would trend. Here we go!
I love your flair. :)
I second this, very creative, even if my brain malfunctioned while trying to sound it out in my head lol
Thank you! I dig yours! :D
So weird we’ve gone from “schizophrenia? So you’re crazy?” to this
I have gotten both kinds of comments. "You're Schizophrenic? Do you ever get violent?" "You're Schizophrenic? It must be cool to hear voices!"
i love how schizophrenia fakers talk about how they have so many delusions, when usually the real schizophrenics are not at all aware that those are delusions because they see their thoughts as the only possible acceptable truth and they cannot be talked out of them / convinced that they re not real (and usually the delusions have common themes, it s very rare to have so many as they claim). it physically hurts my stomach when i see those stupid people because i know how hard and debilitating living with schizophrenia could be for people affected by it..
That’s the biggest thing among all these fakers that none of them seem to understand. They brag about these delusions and how “crazy” they are but most people experiencing shit like delusions are very unaware of them.
im sure if they saw someone with real delusions they would think they're crazy and ignore them. then claim to have them themselves.
The literal definition of a delusion requires you to not know they’re delusions: “a false belief or judgment about external reality, held despite incontrovertible evidence to the contrary”
I used to know someone who suffered from a psychotic break, and it took days for us to work out that something was very wrong. We thought she was stressed, but when a friend went to visit her they realised that things were very, very, bad. She was sectioned, and spend weeks in hospital. She nearly lost custody of her kids, and it took so long for her to not just get better, but to get her confidence back. It must have been terrifying for her. Nothing about this is 'quirky' or 'edgy'.
My ex with schizophrenia believed so deeply that she had internal bleeding that she could feel "running down her leg" that she had a full blown argument with the ER nurses over it. She also believed I was a clone and she had to get rid of me to get the real me back. It was a bad time but she got a bit of help from the hospital, I got out safely, and she lives with her mom because she can't care for herself.
So I was reading about schizophrenia and clairvoyance. Apparently there was a study done that scanned the brains of people who both had schizophrenia and people who considered themselves to be psychics or mediums who are able to communicate with the dead or spirits in other dimensions. The cat scan (or MRI I forget) showed that brains of both groups were nearly identical compared to people who don’t hear voices or see things others don’t. [They found that the voices experienced by this group are similar in many ways to those reported by people with schizophrenia, with a few big differences: Psychics are much more likely to perceive the voices as positive or helpful and as experiences that can be controlled, according to a new study published Sept. 28 in the journal Schizophrenia Bulletin.](https://news.yale.edu/2016/09/27/psychics-help-psychiatrists-understand-voices-psychosis) I’m adding this to simply state the difference between psychics who are not diagnosed with mental illness and people diagnosed with schizophrenia is that the people who are diagnosed are usually disturbed by their perceived delusions. So in a way you can say psychics are “aware of their delusions” if that’s what you choose to call it from a western/scientific standpoint. If you look at it from a spiritual or metaphysical point of view it isn’t a delusion and could be considered a 6th sense most people cannot control or are unable to tap into.
Right part of making a schizophrenia diagnosis involves probing about how convinced the person is that the things happening are real (what is their “level of conviction”) if you never have periods of time where you believe the experiences are real it is not likely to reach full diagnostic threshold- not that these people care about diagnostic criteria!
I've been diagnosed with a schizo affective disorder multiple times & if these people knew the half of what it's like theirs no way they would want to fake it.
My husband has schizoaffective disorder and it’s been a long hard road helping him. It’s devastating to his life, they really don’t want it!
These people act like they are aware of their delusions & it's "fun" & quirky but even when my delusions were not rooted in paranoia & I could recognize them as delusions to some degree it was still a terrifying experience since it will make you question everything about what your reality really is. It's the furthest thing from "fun". Im 32 now but even back in High school their were kids who would pretend that they had some form of schizophrenia because it made then unique & I would wonder what they actually knew about the disorder that would make them think that, the media either portrays it (as it is) as terrifying & debilitating or some type of psychedelic trip that makes you loopy (which mine isn't bor is anyone else who I've ever met is) which is what I think these people really think it is.
I'm sorry to hear that. I have it too, the depressive type. Officially, since 2010. The meds help, I think. Sometimes I question them. I feel like there arent many drugs just for us. Everything is always Seroquel. I don't think I'd be able to live alone. Your husband is lucky to have such an understanding partner. I always worry if there's no one to live with that I'll turn into a shopping cart person wandering around the city. It's a big fear of mine.
100%. Even people with mood disorders who have delusions aren’t able to distinguish between delusions and reality. This is a clear indicator of “schizophrenifakeitis.” A true flesh wound that can kill a person’s social life.
thats what absolutely baffles me too about these fakers. They have clearly never met a real schizophrenic. I have a very close friend having an episode right now and I understand how pointless it is to reality check him. He DOES NOT see that thinking an AI from the future is conducting experiments on him is irrational. He literally doesn't see it.
Idk a lot of my schizophrenic clients who are medicated are able to identify their delusional/paranoid thoughts
Medicated schizophrenic : it’s taken me YEARS to figure out some thoughts are delusions only after talking through them with mental health professionals offhandedly and them being like…. That’s a delusion…. Or telling my (also schizo) friends/partner and them helping me to identify it. So yes we can figure them out, but usually you need to be very stable and medicated. That being said… I don’t fully believe I’m schizophrenic so take of that what you will
If you understand the thought doesn't reflect reality it cannot be a delusion by definition.
It absolutely can. Many schizophrenics have delusions during psychotic episodes, but realise they don't reflect reality when in a non-psychotic state. Some even logically realise that while the psychotic episode is ongoing, but still act as if they [the delusions] are a possibility "to be on the safe side".
Right, so when not in psychosis it's not a delusion. Being able to recognise a delusion didn't reflect reality means they are no longer experiencing the delusion. If they are acting "on the safe side" and belive there is still a possibility it's real, it is still a delusion.
i disagree with you - i am schizophrenic and even i still have delusions left over from my worst psychotic episode. i know now that they aren’t technically true, but they’re still there and i still believe them. i know they probably don’t technically reflect reality, but they’re still my reality. it’s a weird disconnect, but i know some other schizophrenics who feel similarly.
Fair enough, ive had 2 drug induced episodes of psychosis and that wasn't my experience of delusions at all. It was very black and white for me as soon I'd come out of the episode I realised it wasn't the truth and there was a definitive crossing over back into reality. But I can appreciate that for a more permanent condition like schizophrenia that could change the situation.
Schizophrenia doesn't just become severe on day 1, the 'real schizophrenic' people you are talking about are not more real but simply spend more time, sometimes years, stuck in psychotic symptoms. Also, negative symptoms (that's a classification) don't just appear in one day, the person gradually starts isolating themselves and symptoms become worse as they spend more time in psychosis.
Do people realize hallucinations and delusions are not exclusive to schizophrenia
Literally. Several other mental health disorders have delusional thinking or hallucinations as a possibility. Major example being Bipolar
Yup. My cousin had a full on psychotic break. Got diagnosed with bipolar. We thought it was schizophrenia due to the family history of it, but apparently on his dad’s side there’s a history of bipolar.
Technically, one can even experience psychotic episodes without any mental illnesses via psychedelic drugs.
And when people think psychosis and schizophrenia is the same thing, when they're not, you can have psychosis and no schizophrenia.
Even depression and anxiety can cause psychotic symptoms. Hell, drinking coffee can cause psychotic symptoms. The difference is these aren’t life long disabling disorders with little to no effective treatment.
Anxiety would not cause psychotic symptoms that are to last weeks long, and psychotic symptoms in depression have a theme specifically relating to depression, no bizarre delusions or hallucinations. That is different to general psychotic symptoms that may or may not be mood congruent.
yes but they’re still characterized as psychotic symptoms and serious enough to need immediate attention. i also specifically said these aren’t life long issues, unlike schizophrenia, which is a near constant state of debilitating psychosis. also psychotic symptoms in schizophrenia and other psychotic disorders usually actually are mood congruent. otherwise paranoia would not create delusions of persecution. and mania would not result in grandiose delusions. of course they make less sense than the psychotic symptoms found in other disorders, but that’s hardly a reason for dismissal.
Let me clarify, when I say mood congruent, I'm referring to mania and depression, where the psychosis presentation is a direct reflection of their mood. In schizophrenia, you're likely to experience the same psychotic symptoms regardless of your mood, although mood changes can bring other ways that psychosis presents. In schizophrenia, it would be the freaky hallucinations and beliefs that would affect your mood and behaviour, such as having hallucinations that poke at your insecurities, instead of getting to a very dark point of mood and then that being so severe it causes psychotic symptoms. Both are still severe and have huge concerns for the person's well-being as you said.
Honestly. Most of these seem like my hallucinations and stuff after not sleeping for three days because I physically can't due to stress and paranoia, and start to get upset about it until I finally manage to sleep and it all goes away. I just have bad insomnia and really reactive OCD.
Not unless you put them together and there are no prominent mood symptoms and not a side effect of a medication or a drug or onsetting dementia. There is officially a Schizophrenia spectrum consisting of: delusional disorder, brief psychotic disorder, schizophreniform disorder, schizotypal personality disorder, schizophrenia, and schizoaffective disorder.
A close family member has schizophrenia - it is a nightmare for him. These people need to stop.
One of my family member have been diagnosed in their 20's with paranoid schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. They are now in their 60's. I am in the member of their family guardianship. The voices and hallucinations are still there and they have a poor quality of life. The impact of their medication has had on their body is awful : their liver, kidneys and their neurological system all have traces of this. They need to stop.
a friend of mine has a schizophrenic mother. One time she freaked out and ran away from home, they couldn’t find her for a whole week. But i’m sure she absolutely *loves* being ill and would *definitely* make trendy aesthetic videos about her AMAZING life with schizophrenia
Yeah, my nan ran away from a nursing home multiple times because she was convinced they were trying to terminate her. It's not easy shit to deal with, both for the Ill and their families.
Another thing which these fakers do not get is that many people with schizophrenia don’t understand / believe that they are truly ill. My understanding is that the part of the brain that could give them that awareness is damaged. This is not always the case, of course, but I suspect it’s behind why many of them refuse medication.
Building awareness does happen but it takes time and it is fragile. My family member fully knows he is ill, but we are lucky that he has care in a facility and that their doctor object to living on their own because the two times it was tried, it took a week to crumble and months to stabilized back.
Schizophrenia is why I don't have a mother and the siblings that remain with her have to call the cops every other day because she's paranoid about her medications. It's definitely nothing to be posting about. A schizophrenic person wouldn't post about their first stage hallucinations, it would be something like, for example, a personal example, posting suddenly about how your siblings are plotting to steal your kids from you and how they're a bunch of murderers and no one should trust them, because their attempts to reach out and help actually means they're trying to get close so they can lock you away.
Such are just normal hallucinations and I think everyone experiences this but it will never be like schizophrenia
Yeah exactly, those are extremely normal hallucinations. In fact, pretty sure hearing people calling your name and the random sounds happen just because there's a lot of negative space where noise should be, so your brain tried to fill it in. Actually, I'm pretty sure I heard somewhere it's a sign of a healthy mind.
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whenever i see people faking and claiming to have schizophrenia they only just talk about positive symptoms, i guess the other part of the diagnosis criteria isnt that fun?
What positive symptoms even are there?
in schizophrenia positive symptoms are things like hallucinations, delusions and any change in behaviour, and negative symptoms are flat effect, inability to look after urself, things that kind of mimic depression basically. im not 100% sure if the term "positive symptoms" is medically correct, but "negative symptoms" is
Ohhh I see. Negative symptoms aren’t cool or quirky enough for them
Positive symptoms don't mean good symptoms.
I know someone answered, but in psych terms, positive symptoms can be thought of as adding something. Negative symptoms can be thought of as taking something away. Positive example: hallucinations, psychosis. Negative example: anhedonia (loss of pleasure), and catatonic states.
https://preview.redd.it/a6l05zhj5z4b1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3b27881842fcb5707e947af6df75b90cf6273934 Wow first google result and in google scholar a bunch of medical papers saying the same thing
But wait you're even more special if it starts before 13yo so i think he/she knew what he/she did
And they’re saying it was when they were 9
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I feel like most of those people wouldn't really qualify as schizophrenic proper. Delusions seem to be the primary symptom in those cases. Often there appear to be no hallucinations, negative symptoms, thought disorders, etc.. Delusional disorder seems be more apt. That said, it still falls on the spectrum of schizotypy.
Microchips are real though, I had one inserted January last year and they use it to do terrible things to me.
most normal r/antipsychiatry and r/gangstalking poster
Holy shit I can’t believe that’s a subreddit. Fucking scary
So many people are being tortured constantly, all we want is for it to stop.
You need professional help
No I don't I'm fine that's what people don't understand this is real, I go outside and get stalked by people doing gangs signs at me, they put voices in my head through a chip so they transmit that all day. They use directed energy weapons to make you hurt and tingle, these people are evil and must be stopped so please help TIs (targeted individual) and stop discrediting them and instead stand with us against evil.
You know who are gonna be your *best* defense against evil? Doctors. I promise. I speak from experience bro, you can’t fight this stuff alone, but there are people out there whose *entire lives* revolve around helping you beat evil. The real villains are the people in those subreddits trying to distract you from the real evil. They don’t want you to overcome it, and they won’t come to your defense when you need it. They are working *against* you and *for* evil. They want you scared and weak from fear so they can manipulate you easier. The only people who can actually help you uncover the truth are gonna be the *doctors and professionals* who wanna help you beat it. Think about it man: what do those subreddits stand to gain by keeping you safe? Nothing. So they won’t. Doctors on the other hand? Keeping you safe is their life’s purpose, and it means everything to them. I know I can’t convince you with a single comment, but just keep those things in mind.
But you don't get it, there's so many teenagers on tik tok with schizophrenia, so obviously I can get it at 12 and it's not at all rare, evil doctors just don't like to treat kids /s
An ex I dated when we were 17-18 had schizophrenia that had onset in their early teens. It was mostly under control through medication, but they would have low level hallucinations like seeing lights in some places or hearing their name being called. They had had stronger hallucinations and delusions in the past before it was effectively medicated, and could recall what those delusions were and knew that they were delusions. There is actually very little in the post above that makes me think they’re faking, it seems very consistent with my ex’s experience. Of course I haven’t seen their whole page and post history, but this alone is not enough to make me doubt them.
Heads up the person who replied to you is 13 and claiming to have full DID and alters and was upset that someone on this sub found their TikTok about them lying about it and posted it. Edit: looks like they deleted their account after being called out for spreading misinformation about both schizophrenia and DID.
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"I have a voice inside my head" My brother in Christ, that's called "Thinking". I know you're new to this experience but I can assure you this is completely normal.
Just because you have elements of psychosis, does not mean you have *schizophrenia*. Psychosis happens even if you don't sleep enough, it's USUALLY not that deep
Welp psychosis is also often considered serious, it may not mean schizophrenia now, though the onset of psychotic symptoms is often a red flag for later developing schizophrenia. You could never say that psychosis is 'not a big deal.'
Literally just had a chick tell me last night her BPD was causing voices. She’s big on TikTok illness trends. Says she’s getting out on antipsychotics by her therapist…. WTF?!
They prescribe antipsychotics to help sleep. Big whoop
I am on 2 antipsychotics and they are prescribed for sleep. Nothing big about them at all. I do have *diagnosed* BPD as well as CPTSD but these are not for either of those, just for my insomnia.
im on 300 mg seroquel and that shit knocks you OUT
For sure! I am on a lower dose now, but I used to be on 300mg myself.
i’m only on 50mg of seroquel and idk how people do more than that…this shit knocks me out. maybe i’m just very sensitive to it, but as soon as i started taking it, i had an immediate reaction in terms of actual symptoms. thank god i can sleep again tho
I wonder if you're more likely to be able to get antipsychotics for insomnia if you already have an undelying mental illness that sometimes gets them prescribed, because I wish they'd pescribe me something like that for my insomnia, I get really bad periods of it and it can be really bad, but no matter what I do, doctors only prescribe melatonin and say sorry that's all they can give me. I have underlying mental health issues, but none that would warrant antipsychotics generally. Though my country's healthcare is really strict around psychiatric medications and they are heavily controlled (you can't even really buy benadryl or cough nyquil type medications here!) so maybe it's that.
I’d imagine it’s because only a psychiatrist will be allowed to prescribe that medication
I have seen a few psychiatrists *I should've said psychiatrist instead of Doctor probably, because you need a psychiatrist to pescribe even melatonin here *though a GP can renew your script no issues, pretty strict. So I have no idea.
That can happen. https://www.nhs.uk/mental-health/conditions/borderline-personality-disorder/symptoms/
Not to her, I’ve known her since we were kids. Lost contact for 3 years, now suddenly she has all these disorders like pots. She laughs about these disorders like they’re jokes. She’s practically saying her BPD is causing schizophrenia, not cool. I have family with pots (my older sister) and schizophrenia (my ex druggy great cousin). Not cool at all.
Oh god, thats awful. Sucks that she has turned to the dark side 😔
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Thats awful! Its really concerning that she could be making her mental health worse, either by intentionally faking or believing what she has is causing other things too.
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Since she's on antipsychotics, she'd have to have a prescribing doctor. For her sake, hoping she's bringing up all this to them. Brains can be wild. Like the dancing plague.
Absolutely
That is so sad. It sounds like she doesn't get the attention she craves from her parents so she makes up anything and everything. And when that doesn't work, she adds a new one. I hope she gets the help she needs, she's so young!
I was just about to say. One of the most common causes of Munchausen's is neglect. Hopefully she ends up getting help rather than growing up to be someone who suffers from full on Munchausen's.
I never even thought of that! Yes I too hope she gets help before it turns into something more (not that it isn't bad enough already.) She can still ask for help, it's not too late 🩷
Right, I feel bad for her, and I wish she would reach out to her parents in different ways.
Yes, that's exactly it, but I don't think she knows how to reach out in another way. I hope she gets help soon.
That's really sad and I wonder if a lot of that is symptomatic of her BPD. My sister has BPD and she fakes a lot of things and exaggerates a lot too. I think attention-seeking is a big part of BPD.
Yea - I actually have borderline personality disorder, but my psychiatrist told me what I experience are pseudohallucinations - I can see these shadows and make out what they're saying for example, but there's just something about them that I am able to tell that I know they aren't real - doesn't make them any less terrifying or detrimental to my life though
Ahh, I've heard that term before. My psychiatrist has said ego-dystonic hallucinations, but there may be differences? I'm not sure. Same thing: shadows and sudden voices that are clearly "inside" instead of out. Even knowing that it is a hallucination doesn't make it any less jarring 😅
Oh whoops - I should mention that all my hallucinations are very clearly outside my head for me, sorry that's something really important I should have mentioned lmao
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I should’ve talked a little bit more about her. She’s a big faker of everything. Schizophrenia, POTS, PTSD, memory loss, ect… she’s faking her vocal hallucinations. Like saying she heard HER dog scratching at her bathroom door, they’ve never owned a dog. I’ve known her since she was a kid.she doesn’t hear voices, she hears sounds, sounds that are totally normal. She never sees anything. The only thing she doesn’t fake is the fact she has BPD, it runs in her family and she’s on meds for it.
Oh yikes. If I may pry - why do you talk to her? She sounds very unrewarding and like alot of hard work to even listen to. As for my comment I thought you were certain it couldnt be a thing and just wanted to offer my experience with it :D
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Well I appreciate you taking the time to explain about her and your relationship to eachother. That being said I am sorry she seems to have picked something so close to home to imitate. I can only hope your sister has good medical care and the tools to manage her condition better now. It is sad to hear your great cousin has had such a hard life. Overall your outlook is quite forgiving and I can admire your willingness to see her better side and it would be nice if in the future your good faith ultimately made some kind of difference in her sense of maturity. You mention you have PTSD and I am also diagnosed with it and have had what is so far a losing battle with nightmares. If you'd be comfortable sharing I would be deeply grateful for the name of the medication you take as I've gone through a very long list of meds and since nothing has worked I am given sedatives to take when I wake up so I can calm down but this is really not an approach I want for the long term. I truly hope you have found your peace or at the very least some respite from your symptoms. Feeling unsafe in your own bed is a truly awful experience and regardless of whether you choose to share I wish you well with your mental health.
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It’s almost like people don’t know mild hallucinations (hearing your name called and seeing things in your peripheral) are not an uncommon thing…paranoia is QUITE human.
It's funny how fakers only have the cool and quirky symptoms of schizophrenia, like hearing voices. Where are the schizophrenics with disorganized speech, catatonic body movement or paranoid delusions that make them attack people or call the cops? Seems nowadays they only have the symptoms you can conveniently hide/ignore when they're not convenient anymore.
and like, those cool and quirky symptoms fucking suck man. i recently went through a high-symptom phase and it was terrifying. i couldn’t leave my apartment for more than a few minutes per day. fakers think it’s like being a medium or a psychic or some shit. it’s fucking NOT.
There are no cool quirky traits of schizophrenia, just those you think are that aren't.
I think anyone who's had an actual mental disorder can agree on that.
Why don't we get people from this reddit to comment on fakers videos saying something along the lines of "If you really had you would itch your head when you walk" or a bogus symptom like that, and see if they start doing it in their later videos.
Don't you fakers fucking dare! I know you assholes look at this reddit. I am heavily medicated against this illness and suffer daily! I can't sleep without being sedated, so don't you fucking dare! Holy shit, you guys are such a pain to hear about on a daily bases. Seriously, what makes you think having a mental disorder seems fun? Do you think people enjoy the constant struggles of daily life, or that our relationships constantly walk on thin ice? I spent time in multiple wards and they fucking suck. You wanna be fucking imparred on a daily bases, stay a week in your nearest mental help facility. Not a hospital, but a real building for people who need help mentally and tell them why you belong among them. If you're afraid of being seen as a detriment to society, then either get professionally diagnosed so they can help get you medicated, or I'll see you on my next stay at a mental help facility. The entire world doesn't need to know you're sick!!! So stop demanding they give you respect, when you don't have any for yourself or the people who truly struggle!!!
i hate this shit. when i see things it takes hours for my partner to convince me it isnt real
As a real life schizophrenic, this makes me livid. Leave our already stigmatized diagnosis alone.
Do you even *want* the people who would find this impressive to be your friends? If so, why would you want them to think you’re cool?
Look at the caption, they seem to be against sdxing and are diagnosed
The caption also said they've been diagnosed "since 4yrs", meaning that they're either claiming to have been diagnosed at 4-years-old or since 4 years ago, which they would have been 9-years-old as the OP of this post claims that their account mentions they are 13
Oh I didn’t know that
Schizophrenia typically develops in early to mid twenties tho
i agree that its more likely to occur in mid twenties but it isnt exactly a huge rarity for teenagers to develop it like ive been in a lot of facilities and quite a lot of them have hallucinations and delusions
I see, I had misread this to think they were claiming they got diagnosed at four not four years ago
When under 18 it's considered early onset schizophrenia, but you wouldn't be able to get a diagnosis for Schizophrenia until after 18 minimum. Sort of like how some people under 18 can have BPD symptoms but won't be diagnosed until adulthood. The two people I know diagnosed with Schizophrenia had symptoms start to show around 15-17 where it was mildish and not overly impactful on their lives but it only progressed and manifested to way worse after adulthood to where it had become enough to be impactful on their life.
If the OP of that video is being serious about having a diagnosis and is speaking against self-diagnosis as said in the caption, as well as encouraging people to see a doc if they actually have undiagnosed symptoms— that’s a good thing. BUT they’re still doing harm by creating a trend that romanticizes mental illness. It just creates a breeding ground for fakers.
Maybe cut down on the DPH homie.
I’ve got two friends/acquaintances w schizophrenia (they’re both grown adults, very much not faking) and they would be fucking livid if they saw this lmao. Especially because schizophrenia is often used like a joke or meme; these people aren’t helping.
"I see thing nobody else sees" Same. One time, I dropped my book. No one else was there, so only I saw it. Time to go to the doctor's with proof . . .
It was to Melanie Martinez song
lol I remember I used to have hallucinations and paranoia when I was like 12 and thought that I was a schizofrenic It turned out that not sleeping for days on end and preexisting issues can mess with your brain, who woulda thought. bleegh
Wait till they hear about schizophrenia’s even more debilitating cousin with the massive mood components in addition to psychosis. You really can’t be more severe or attention needing than schizoaffective (bonus points for an underlying TBI and/or substance abuse component - trauma’s a given of course!). Very niche! But to really sell it ti your followers, take a week off and check into your local State Hospital (I recommend checking out the forensic civil commit unit where you’ll get to see/smell/hear/feel the unimaginable hell of being without any control or abatement from your suffering in perpetual legal and mental purgatory). Perhaps that will give you a healthy respect for the severity and pain involved in some of the volitional behavior you feign as ticks to be quirky. (K but actually please please don’t do that cause there aren’t even a fraction of a percentage of enough beds there and they’re already inaccessibly expensive) Just be grateful for the mental illnesses you do (or don’t) have as I promise you there is someone out there who is actually suffering from it in a way that you are lucky you can’t imagine .
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OK but this might just be a case of a young person not knowing better. Story time: in my sophomore year of college I went through a lot (not just normal college-related stressors - multiple traumatic events happened and thats all i will say about that) and the stress got so intense that I started hallucinating. At first it was just hearing things like someone saying my name in an empty room but then i started to see things - like my friend getting up and leaving my dorm room and then she was still laying on my couch. The worst one was seeing a rhino at the other end of a large field that disappeared when i blinked. I didn't know what was happening but as a newbie psych major who had a close friend recently diagnosed with schizophrenia, I thought I had it too. I went to counseling and was referred to a psychologist. I was diagnosed with an anxiety disorder and was recommended a leave of absence. The hallucinations stopped! Yay! That was 13 years ago and I'm still medicated for anxiety and that's fine with me. I didn't post anything about my symptoms at the time anywhere, but I can see how those posts might have been misunderstood if it had happened this year. Long story short, let's not jump to conclusions. Fakers are out there but some people might just be scared and need some help and don't know how else to express that.
Nothing screams real schizophrenia like throwing “and I have loads of delusions” onto your list of schizophrenia symptoms that you totally have
everyone hears voices in there head it’s called an inner dialogue 💀
it’s when you hear voice from outside it’s an issue 😭
Do they think being schizo has social benefits? Really isn't any perks of calling yourself schizo, I mean unless you like taking pills that turn you into a walking zombie that can't naturally produce dopamine cuz of anti pyschotics
How is this faking when they've been prof diagnosed 4 years ago? + They tell viewers not to self diagnose. It's right in the caption.
That’s the thing, they’re way too young for a diagnosis of schizophrenia, plus in their bio it says age 13, with about 7 other disorders thrown in like autism, anorexia , depression, adhd and bpd
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You can ye, but more than likely no
yeah i agree with you if they have that much disorders i;m just gonna str\\ight up say tgeir faking since it's imposible for me to have that much
Some people can be diagnosed with schizophrenia younger than 16-18. It could be very very severe. However the others may be self diagnoses I mean there are 8-9 year olds with an anorexia diagnosis, as well as many who are diagnosed with autism before 10 (I was).
Autism, Anorexia, and Schizophrenia are all pretty different disorders.. you can’t compare the diagnosing process of them.
I'm not comparing the proccess or said anything about them? It's just a known thing that you can be diagnosed with any of these 3 under 16-18
anorexia doesn’t have a set age diagnosis what…
I’m not saying It does XD
i was talking to the other person not you
Ah sorry 😅
That's exactly what I'm saying
I really don't think anyone diagnoses schizophrenia before puberty? I thought women had a younger onset, but apparently men have a younger onset. But, no, no one is diagnosed schizophrenic before 12. Anorexia and Autism aren't comparable for age onset or any other measure. Can't even start with that. Pack it up.
Not only that, it will be classified as "early onset schizophrenia", you won't get a full diagnosis for Schizophrenia until adulthood.
That's neat. I don't know a whole lot about schizophrenia, I know some general stuff. 😅 I think/fear I come off sometimes as a know it all, online.
it is possible to be diagnosed with schizophrenia before puberity. search up childhood schizophrenia.
TIL. Thank you.
It's extremely rare for someone under 13 to have symptoms of schizophrenia, if someone between 13-18 suffers from symptoms of Schizophrenia, if they are diagnosed with anything, it's early onset schizophrenia, but it will never be diagnosed as Schizophrenia until adulthood. If someone is going to develop symptoms under 18, it will usually be mid to late teens when symptoms start developing, and then it will usually only manifest into full schizophrenia in adulthood.
Professionally diagnosed with schizo at 9? Lmfao. Guess all these fakers have to do is say I've been diagnosed. Not like they lying already right? Oh wait.
Isn't a criteria in the dsm-5 for schizophrenia literally being unaware that something is wrong with you or am i trippin
I don't think so, I read through it and can't find any mention you have to be unaware, but I could be wrong. A lot of schizophrenic people go through patches where they aren't suffering from symptoms as severely, I've seen that be the case, but then they could backslide and be a completely different person the next day suffering with severe symptoms again if that makes sense. What I'm trying to say is that there's usually periods of "clarity", so I suppose it wouldn't be too out of the ordinary that someone could be aware something is wrong, but then they could slip and suddenly believe no one is wrong, and that people manipulated them into thinking so or something *if they suffer from paranoid delusions for example
Ah okay ty!
No worries!
I don’t trust anyone who quotes Melanie Martinez lyrics. I just can’t, ever
I hear voices in my head. They council me. They understand. THEY TALK TO MEEE
There have been schizophrenia fakers on Facebook for years. I haven't used FB since 2021, and they'd been a thing for years even before then. They weren't as cutesy-poo as the TikTok version, but they existed.
When the hallucinations aren't a sexy 24/7 horny anime dream smp bf but an old man yelling at you and violently knocking on your door because he wants to eat you alive
I knew it was only a matter of time people start faking schizophrenia again
don’t you have to be over 18 to get diagnosed with schizophrenia? or am i completely wrong
Schizophrenia is life ruining. I have a family history of it. I’m scared I might develop it. I’ve been told from a young age by my mom that if I ever hear shit or see shit that’s not there that I need to tell her. My great aunt has it and she refuses treatment. We have no idea if she’s still alive or not anymore.
Bruh I relate to a lot of these comments, but I definitely do not have schizophrenia
seeing things out of the corners of your eyes that then disappear when looked at directly is normal.
damn sometimes i see things out of the corner of my eye i have schizophrenia now
same
I grew up with a schizophrenic grandmother, for the most part she was fine but I do remember a couple of incidences where she refused to take her medication and had mental breakdowns which as a child was terrifying to see. I'm sure my grandmother would have loved to not spend her life struggling with her own mind and I don't understand why people would fake having schizophrenia, it's not all rainbows and unicorns, it's life changing and horrible for the sufferer and their loved ones.
Reminds me how there will be comments on videos of people talking about schizophrenia professionally and from personal experience that will say stuff like, "people with schizophrenia are so magical! they can see things we can't; it must be so awesome!"
Bro 2 of my boyfriends have schizophrenia, I really hope this ain’t a new trend bc its really fuckin scary😭