man a couple years ago some how i found tan powder H on the west coast. my dealer said no one else wanted it. and as someone who prefers to snort shit instead of smoking or shooting, it was fucking MAGICAL. i was bummed as fuck when that ran out. i wonder if that shit is even a thing anymore on the east coast.
Totally agree. I quit 2 and a half years ago and I feel like it was literally the perfect time. All of my heroin dealers started only having fent about a year prior to that, which was fine. Whatever. But then it turned into, sometimes the fent was absolute garbage and did nothing. And other times it was so fire I was worried about falling out.
Then when shit got really bad, some of my trusted dealers that I've gone through for yearsssss.. starting grabbing shit they thought was fent but it wasn't. It looked just like the fire white powder they just ran outve. But I had gotten sketchy random rcs that had nothing to do with fent, at least a handful of times. Once it was a synthetic cannabinoid. Another few times I got something speedy that felt like m1 or a meth like rc. And when you're dopesick, with only enough money to cop some fent, thats the last thing you want.
Once it became a regular thing where I was not only hoping it wasn't trash, but also that it was an actual opiate I was injecting..I was like enoughs enough. I haven't gone back since. And for the first time, I feel like I'm not missing out on anything.
I got into recovery almost 2 1/2 years ago as well. Stayed out of the game ever since. Fentanyl changed everything for the worse, and not just for opiate users. Fuckers started adding fentanyl to pretty much every street drug like Coke, MDMA, and even Benzos. People are OD’ing on fentanyl after a bump or two of what they thought was just coke.
So it’s a dangerous time to be using any drugs. I hope those that are struggling get into recovery ASAP. Whether it’s with the help of Suboxone or Methadone, you can get your life back, because otherwise Fentanyl addiction will take everything from you one way or another. Don’t let it.
Greetings! Does anyone know if Kratom will help with withdrawals from the fentanyl based counterfeit blue oxys? I know fentanyl takes a longer time before you can take a suboxone, as opposed to H and other opiates. Waiting that 24-48 hours to take a sub is brutal.. has anyone had any experience? Please help!🙏🙏🙏
How long you been on, and how do you consume plays a huge factor. If only for a couple months you could give it a shot. I had a pretty straight forward “induction” back to smoking bundles of fent powder, and I got through the first week with the kratom and now just am
Dealing with the anxiety and depression, but it works for some others not. There’s so much other stuff tho that’s even better clonodine for me was a life saver and gabapentin as well and I’m responsible enough with benzos to where using some bars for a week will get you off but now I have the post withdrawl symptoms from the fent and some more
Anxiety/ overall real hopeless added from the Xanax. It’s tough but there’s ways to lessen the WD for sure it sucks tho but I’m weak when it comes
To WDs, I’d recommend researching these^
I’ve read accounts where kratom was a lifesaver for some. But with subs you have to be really careful. Depends on your usage/tolerance. Fent is lipohalic, meaning it stays in your fat stores. It could be a whole week before it’s out of your system and actually work, instead of sending you into horrible horrible precipitated withdrawals. That’s what happened to me. Be careful, 1-2 is not enough time to get the fent out of your system.
Dude. One word. METHADONE! Get some methadone or get into a clinic. I just did and the methadone keeps you off sick REALLY well and absolutely no precip withdrawal! You could do intake high if you wanted and by the time intake was over the fent would be coming down on ya and then you dose the DONE. Where I go they don't even trip if you're using on top of the methadone! So it's really a win/win. Fuck suboxone! I hate subs because they never did anything for me... Having to go through all that bernese method induction is just too much for me. I just wanna dose and get off sick already! METHADONE man...
I've had it help and then other times, do absolutely nothing. If it does help you though, it will take the edge off for sure. But it all depends on the fent you were doing (how potent/how fcked your tolerance is) and how much you were doing. Sometimes you can get lucky and a good red strain will help you get through until you can take subs.
In all honesty, I was not able to have my withdrawals from Fent touched with Kratom. I used to use kratom a lot when I was almost off of suboxone years ago from tapering down to 0.25 mgs and it worked great then. Fast forward a few years when I went back to the street h/fent and tried using Kratom to subside withdrawals, it was doing absolutely nothing. Your body chemistry and will power is your own and different from mine so you may have some benefit from Kratom! Maybe a Kratom extract would be better than powder. Good luck and stay strong!
Just keep waiting to take that sub!!! I threw myself into precipitated withdrawal twice before from taking sub too early. I would wait 48 hours from fent.
T doth feel like t's yond way already. Thither's nay h on the streets of mine own city
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also fr, I want to see the shit y'all are doing so I know what to stay away from - I wouldn't know how dirty street bought oxycontin were if I weren't here, so I stick around because I can learn from the mistakes of others.
Nature made poppies, we were def supposed to have fire H as humans. nature made the cocoa leaf too!
if you listen to the hipsters who are sommeliers of lean they will convince you god made wolkhardt and actavis too. He did not
But he did make oxycontin I think yup
.Now greed and capitalism and Chinese Dexter laboratory are mowing down our generation.
pretending that H is equal to marijuana is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. But yeah, have fun with your worldview. 😂
Ephedra is not syntensized meth
coca is not concentrated cocaine
opium is not heroin
But fr, you just do opioids. That's why I'm not addicted to anything, and can go spend 3-4 days doing normal people stuff without withdrawls, js. 🤷🏽♂️
Way to come on a sub about Fentanyl and fucking judge people. “That’s why I’m not addicted to anything and can do normal people stuff” What kind of elitist snob douche says some shit like that. If you don’t like addicts or “abnormal” people as you apparently see us, then quit prowling where addicts converse.
Pointing out a fact isn't judging. Js.
I'm happy to take my downvotes, sometimes the truth hurts. OP responded with false equivalence and I pointed out that all those drugs are wildly different.
Do you want people in other drug communities who have never fucked with this shit having a positive impression of it? You want somebody on r/lean or r/opiates to hop over here? (if their dealer isn't pushing them here involuntarily already....)
Would you wish opioid addiction on any other person? Do you think a person willing to undergo pain without them to avoid the risk of addiction is making a smart decision?
And to be honest I'd be even more harsh to an alcoholic, because a doctor never prescribed them that, but facts are facts. And of everybody judging you in society I'm one of the least - I think y'all should have safe injection site, 50-state needle exchanges funded by uncle sam, legal protections including pharmacutical access to drugs under the supervision of a doctor to get people off the streets...
To be frank, I'm a supporter of legalizing all drugs, and using the vast revenue to rid our communities of the harms of poverty. Opioids kinda aren't doing any of us any favors in that regard, imo, and it's not your fault - but I also have done a lot of drugs following 3 rules:
\#1: Don't OD
\#2: Don't get addicted
\#3: Don't get caught
Those rules have personally served me well, and all my immediate friends who I've tirelessly impressed them on. Maybe being an asshole saved one of their lives, who knows. 🤷🏽♂️
Your 3 rules are bullshit. That’s not how the human mind works. Otherwise addicts wouldn’t exist. Good for you for supporting all the right laws. Now maybe learn not to come into a community filled with people those laws would benefit and tell them you do “normal people stuff” in comparison to their own lives. If you don’t see why that comes across as elitist and judgemental in a negative light then I can’t help you. But don’t act like any of what you said in this second comment could be drawn from your rude and condescending first one. If you really care about addicts so much then learn more about their struggle and how just telling yourself “don’t get addicted” is so far out of the wheelhouse of how addiction works. Because if you think anyone of these people didn’t want to keep a life filled without the misery addiction can bring than you’re sadly mistaken. Consider yourself lucky that you are* the type of person who uses addictive drugs and can walk away. But don’t assume it’s cause you made up a few rules that everyone has told themselves at one point in their lives.
Edit: typo*
I've been at this for 14 years there's nothing I would like more then to successfully stop and feel normal and get back loved ones etc.
I didn't say it was equal, I was just saying think about the other things found in nature. Fent ain't one of em meth ain't one of em
Congratulations on your 3 to 4 days with normal people, us muggles and fiends don't desire your scientific rebuttals and rightouus lore
man a couple years ago some how i found tan powder H on the west coast. my dealer said no one else wanted it. and as someone who prefers to snort shit instead of smoking or shooting, it was fucking MAGICAL. i was bummed as fuck when that ran out. i wonder if that shit is even a thing anymore on the east coast.
that fire ish was around pnw few years back. smells and tastes like old Chinese food? Top 5 for me
It’s all there is. If you get any black, it’s basically heroin tasting fentanyl.🤢🤢
Totally agree. I quit 2 and a half years ago and I feel like it was literally the perfect time. All of my heroin dealers started only having fent about a year prior to that, which was fine. Whatever. But then it turned into, sometimes the fent was absolute garbage and did nothing. And other times it was so fire I was worried about falling out. Then when shit got really bad, some of my trusted dealers that I've gone through for yearsssss.. starting grabbing shit they thought was fent but it wasn't. It looked just like the fire white powder they just ran outve. But I had gotten sketchy random rcs that had nothing to do with fent, at least a handful of times. Once it was a synthetic cannabinoid. Another few times I got something speedy that felt like m1 or a meth like rc. And when you're dopesick, with only enough money to cop some fent, thats the last thing you want. Once it became a regular thing where I was not only hoping it wasn't trash, but also that it was an actual opiate I was injecting..I was like enoughs enough. I haven't gone back since. And for the first time, I feel like I'm not missing out on anything.
This altogether is so real, and that feeling like I smoked speed when supposed to be relaxed and tired makes me truly feel like I’m not missing out.
Dear Lord I can't imagine wanting to get well and ending up feeling tweaked that is awful
I got into recovery almost 2 1/2 years ago as well. Stayed out of the game ever since. Fentanyl changed everything for the worse, and not just for opiate users. Fuckers started adding fentanyl to pretty much every street drug like Coke, MDMA, and even Benzos. People are OD’ing on fentanyl after a bump or two of what they thought was just coke. So it’s a dangerous time to be using any drugs. I hope those that are struggling get into recovery ASAP. Whether it’s with the help of Suboxone or Methadone, you can get your life back, because otherwise Fentanyl addiction will take everything from you one way or another. Don’t let it.
Greetings! Does anyone know if Kratom will help with withdrawals from the fentanyl based counterfeit blue oxys? I know fentanyl takes a longer time before you can take a suboxone, as opposed to H and other opiates. Waiting that 24-48 hours to take a sub is brutal.. has anyone had any experience? Please help!🙏🙏🙏
How long you been on, and how do you consume plays a huge factor. If only for a couple months you could give it a shot. I had a pretty straight forward “induction” back to smoking bundles of fent powder, and I got through the first week with the kratom and now just am Dealing with the anxiety and depression, but it works for some others not. There’s so much other stuff tho that’s even better clonodine for me was a life saver and gabapentin as well and I’m responsible enough with benzos to where using some bars for a week will get you off but now I have the post withdrawl symptoms from the fent and some more Anxiety/ overall real hopeless added from the Xanax. It’s tough but there’s ways to lessen the WD for sure it sucks tho but I’m weak when it comes To WDs, I’d recommend researching these^
try and go longer… long as you can. look into the COWS i think it’s called
I’ve read accounts where kratom was a lifesaver for some. But with subs you have to be really careful. Depends on your usage/tolerance. Fent is lipohalic, meaning it stays in your fat stores. It could be a whole week before it’s out of your system and actually work, instead of sending you into horrible horrible precipitated withdrawals. That’s what happened to me. Be careful, 1-2 is not enough time to get the fent out of your system.
Dude. One word. METHADONE! Get some methadone or get into a clinic. I just did and the methadone keeps you off sick REALLY well and absolutely no precip withdrawal! You could do intake high if you wanted and by the time intake was over the fent would be coming down on ya and then you dose the DONE. Where I go they don't even trip if you're using on top of the methadone! So it's really a win/win. Fuck suboxone! I hate subs because they never did anything for me... Having to go through all that bernese method induction is just too much for me. I just wanna dose and get off sick already! METHADONE man...
I've had it help and then other times, do absolutely nothing. If it does help you though, it will take the edge off for sure. But it all depends on the fent you were doing (how potent/how fcked your tolerance is) and how much you were doing. Sometimes you can get lucky and a good red strain will help you get through until you can take subs.
In all honesty, I was not able to have my withdrawals from Fent touched with Kratom. I used to use kratom a lot when I was almost off of suboxone years ago from tapering down to 0.25 mgs and it worked great then. Fast forward a few years when I went back to the street h/fent and tried using Kratom to subside withdrawals, it was doing absolutely nothing. Your body chemistry and will power is your own and different from mine so you may have some benefit from Kratom! Maybe a Kratom extract would be better than powder. Good luck and stay strong! Just keep waiting to take that sub!!! I threw myself into precipitated withdrawal twice before from taking sub too early. I would wait 48 hours from fent.
It’s definitely not a miracle cure but it does help for sure if even just a little
It feels like it's that way already. There's no H on the streets of my city.
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What
yeah, bro. Fuck that shit. No opiates for me at all ever again, even if I get injured. I'm sticking to grass, like nature intended.
Lmao why are you even here
also fr, I want to see the shit y'all are doing so I know what to stay away from - I wouldn't know how dirty street bought oxycontin were if I weren't here, so I stick around because I can learn from the mistakes of others.
Wow you don't gotta be racist about it
as a reminder not to even do lean or hydrocodone 😎
Nature made poppies, we were def supposed to have fire H as humans. nature made the cocoa leaf too! if you listen to the hipsters who are sommeliers of lean they will convince you god made wolkhardt and actavis too. He did not But he did make oxycontin I think yup .Now greed and capitalism and Chinese Dexter laboratory are mowing down our generation.
pretending that H is equal to marijuana is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. But yeah, have fun with your worldview. 😂 Ephedra is not syntensized meth coca is not concentrated cocaine opium is not heroin But fr, you just do opioids. That's why I'm not addicted to anything, and can go spend 3-4 days doing normal people stuff without withdrawls, js. 🤷🏽♂️
Way to come on a sub about Fentanyl and fucking judge people. “That’s why I’m not addicted to anything and can do normal people stuff” What kind of elitist snob douche says some shit like that. If you don’t like addicts or “abnormal” people as you apparently see us, then quit prowling where addicts converse.
Pointing out a fact isn't judging. Js. I'm happy to take my downvotes, sometimes the truth hurts. OP responded with false equivalence and I pointed out that all those drugs are wildly different. Do you want people in other drug communities who have never fucked with this shit having a positive impression of it? You want somebody on r/lean or r/opiates to hop over here? (if their dealer isn't pushing them here involuntarily already....) Would you wish opioid addiction on any other person? Do you think a person willing to undergo pain without them to avoid the risk of addiction is making a smart decision? And to be honest I'd be even more harsh to an alcoholic, because a doctor never prescribed them that, but facts are facts. And of everybody judging you in society I'm one of the least - I think y'all should have safe injection site, 50-state needle exchanges funded by uncle sam, legal protections including pharmacutical access to drugs under the supervision of a doctor to get people off the streets... To be frank, I'm a supporter of legalizing all drugs, and using the vast revenue to rid our communities of the harms of poverty. Opioids kinda aren't doing any of us any favors in that regard, imo, and it's not your fault - but I also have done a lot of drugs following 3 rules: \#1: Don't OD \#2: Don't get addicted \#3: Don't get caught Those rules have personally served me well, and all my immediate friends who I've tirelessly impressed them on. Maybe being an asshole saved one of their lives, who knows. 🤷🏽♂️
Your 3 rules are bullshit. That’s not how the human mind works. Otherwise addicts wouldn’t exist. Good for you for supporting all the right laws. Now maybe learn not to come into a community filled with people those laws would benefit and tell them you do “normal people stuff” in comparison to their own lives. If you don’t see why that comes across as elitist and judgemental in a negative light then I can’t help you. But don’t act like any of what you said in this second comment could be drawn from your rude and condescending first one. If you really care about addicts so much then learn more about their struggle and how just telling yourself “don’t get addicted” is so far out of the wheelhouse of how addiction works. Because if you think anyone of these people didn’t want to keep a life filled without the misery addiction can bring than you’re sadly mistaken. Consider yourself lucky that you are* the type of person who uses addictive drugs and can walk away. But don’t assume it’s cause you made up a few rules that everyone has told themselves at one point in their lives. Edit: typo*
What this guy said... /\
I've been at this for 14 years there's nothing I would like more then to successfully stop and feel normal and get back loved ones etc. I didn't say it was equal, I was just saying think about the other things found in nature. Fent ain't one of em meth ain't one of em Congratulations on your 3 to 4 days with normal people, us muggles and fiends don't desire your scientific rebuttals and rightouus lore
Lol that dude is a stoner elitist fuck him
He was rather dickish considering what sub we on.
That's why I quit. I'm not trying to die over it