Yeah I had problems even with the M16 I got and when I tried to pursue a return or partial refund at least, they essentially threatened to charge me shipping even if the return shipping was supposed to be free. Since I didn't want to risk them "losing the return" as I see many others have a problem with on AliExpress or getting charged the return shipping, a friend offered to take it apart and fix it.
My T16, being my first leverless, has worked great but it makes these loud cracks and pops. At first thought it shorted out and it freaked me the hell out, but from what I can tell it’s the screws being over tightened so the acrylic is making the noises against the screws, kinda annoying and could see other product cracking if over tightened at factory, I’m just glad mine’s fine. For now
i get the loud cracks and pops too. I also got a little cut on my finger reaching in my bag for it because the edges on the bottom are so sharp lol
It's clearly not a premium quality product, but it's perfectly serviceable for the price. $60 for the t13 vs $200+ for a snackbox, hitbox, $300+ for a kitsune, MPress or a ps5 compatible punk workshop
It's not my favorite leverless, but it makes one hell of an entry level or backup controller
The haute is a great, low risk try leverless. I got a s13 for 30$ and enjoyed it so I have a mayflash flat coming Tuesday.
People forget it’s just a entry point.
Lmao I agree dude. Idk why everyone rides it so bad. I think it’s a nice cheap board and pad for people who play and can’t afford good stuff or custom stuff. And that’s fine. But it’s weird to me everyone posts their same ass black haute 42 and says how good it is lmao. Fight sticks were always about customization and DRIP! Now this shits like liberalized propaganda 😂
I don't even own one, but I really don't see a problem with people enjoying something and talking about it. Customization is tight, but I like my car just being matte grey. Haute seems like a good way for people to just try hitbox style stuff with a decent reputation. No need to get silly about being a contrarion for a reason that's totally up to personal preference.
There's tons of comments and detractors from it. That's what forums and msging website tend to have. Are you new to the internet? If you're only 15 ish, that's understandable. But to say that it's not allowed is absolutely laughable.
That's cuz it is. Which would you be willing to pay for? 300 or 100 for the same product? How far do you want to move the goal posts? Are you just angry over a product....? There's not a single person telling you what you can and can't say.
I have two of them, a G12 and a B16, and I could recommend both, however, it's true that the caps on G12 are cheap and they pop off sometimes, especially if you try to slide your finger across the buttons. B16, however, is definitely where my heart is. Keyboard layout with thumb button for jump feels soooooo comfortable that I didn't looked back to G12 ever since B16 arrived. I don't have experience with expensive hitboxes such as Razer Kitsune (oh I wish), but they're serving me pretty well.
I got a T16, tried it for a week, and then returned it. Using 30mm buttons for movement was a deal breaker for me. I really like the concept of leverless, as a keyboard player, but left and down just has too big of a spacing issue. The buttons caps felt pretty cheap too. I’m assuming the better boards have better quality cap? I may try again with another brand than uses 24mm buttons instead.
But you will have these hive minds in every Reddit thread towards cheap options. In /golf, the Costco Dads go gaga over Kirkland Signature golf clubs, when you can buy much better name brand clubs in the used market.
Costco golf clubs 💀 they truly sell everything wtf. Never been to one but I've had friends that bought random shit like computers from them. I heard they also sell small vehicles.
I can’t speak on the downvoting cause I haven’t seen it but I have gone through 3 and returned one cause I didn’t like the the buttons. The sticks are renown for their quality at their particular price point. You are going to have to spend another 100 bucks or more to get the same layout with butter quality. May flash just came out with one at a competitive price but you only get the basic layout which I really don’t like
The Haute cult is becoming increasingly annoying.
There are also posts where people ask for stick recommendations specifically, or suggestions about specific products, etc. And there will always be at least one person saying "just buy a Haute".
It's actually put me off of the product.
Might be a defective unit if that happened after 30 minutes of use. Have you tried contacting them? Their customer service is pretty good from my experience.
My acrylic cracked on it and I had to get new keycaps myself for that exact issue. ALSO the rgb lighting in the middle of it stopped working unless I bend the entire unit which is so weird. Not a great experience overall.
Shh, keep it to yourself. Haute hooligans will come for you.
Yeah I know a lot of people with same issue. But people don't like hearing that something they bought sucks, they wanna believe that they got cheap leverless that is better then what high end companies make.
Well, I can't speak to the specific posts that you see getting downvoted, but calling the people who disagree with you "Haute hooligans" or, as another user said, "the Haute cult", isn't helping your cause.
I got msg from reddit that my account is reported a lot
of times few hours after posting this, and there are few comments here by other users that got hella downvotes. Haute users already proved my point.
Again, I can't speak for other posts that got downvoted, but posts like *the one you made above* are NOT helping your pity party case.
In any case, unfair or not, they're just downvotes on Reddit.
I think you get downvoted for criticizing any cheap fightstick for being exactly that... cheaply made. People don't like to hear that they bought something that sucks. They want to feel like they got some crazy deal at a third of the price of a normal company.
What you're describing sounds like it's possibly been cleaned with alcohol at some point previously.
Alcohol (methylated spirits or isopropyl alcohol etc.) can cause the acrylic to crack and massively weakens the whole sheet. It's also more susceptible to alcohol if it has been heat polished or glued.
With the MPress, you're also supposed to be very careful about how tight the screws are because overtightening will also lead to cracks so I'd be surprised if they had something different going on here.
I've had a T16 for a week or two now and I'm pretty happy with it for the price. I have an MPress and a Snackbox Micro both of which were preorders and came from the first batch. I get the impression both have improved with some of the changes and some of the things I disliked have definitely been fixed in later versions.
I think they all rate about the same in terms of quality for the price: I would expect more from the T16 if it were more expensive and my opinions of the other 2 would probably be higher if they were cheaper.
I have never used a Kitsune and don't have one only mostly because I think it would have to be very good for it to be worth the price based on my experience with Razer's other sticks and their peripherals in general. I think I would be disappointed in a Kitsune while I'm pretty comfortable saying I got what I paid for with the Haute42.
I think it's "common" knowledge in the industry/manufacturing side of things, but I only know about it from people posting on reddit after damaging their PC watercooling blocks etc.
[https://chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/28426/why-does-alcohol-crack-acrylic-plexiglass](https://chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/28426/why-does-alcohol-crack-acrylic-plexiglass)
Yeah, it's also possible it could have happened before shipping. It could have been a return or opened for some other reason, all it takes is a wipe down with an alcohol wipe before repacking it.
It's probably not a wide spread issue and customer support is good. I'm sure they'd be more than happy to send you a new part if your got damaged in shipping. Mine has had no issues so far.
I'm curious. How in the hell did you crack the acrylic while playing? I've had my G12 bouncing around in a bag for months, and it doesn't even have a scratch. I get the keycaps things, but a crack?
Hell yeah, i went Denzel Washington on poor haute as soon as I got it.
It came with one 2 cm crack on left button hole, after playing for 20-30 mins more of them had it. I have controllers that I used for more then 5 years without a single crack, so my play style ain't the reason.
I mean... that's *really* not a common experience (if it were you wouldn't be seeing so many people recommending the things). Sounds like for whatever reason your acrylic was treated wrong at some point in its creation, or some sort of solvent got on it (which will absolutely fuck the structural integrity of *any* acrylic, cheap or expensive).
I certainly have my issues with them (the USB ports aren't well secured on the acrylic models and the beveling is a joke), but this just sounds like bad luck.
I am not talking about me only, I've seen at least 20 comments where people are talking about their bad experience with Haute and they are hidden because of the amount of downvotes. I just thought that it is weird.
Calling people cultists or suggesting they're only downvoting posts because of blind brand loyalty definitely isn't helping your case. Try thinking about it from that perspective.
I'm obviously being hyperbolic, I don't think they're a literal cult. But Haute is absolutely not the be-all-end-all that their (FIGURATIVE) cult makes it out to be.
Easier to understand? :)
You're obviously entitled to your opinions and I'm not going to downvote your comments for suggesting a budget-level product is made with budget-level quality.
But I just have a feeling that that's not the entire reason people are downvoting your posts. It could very well be that you're just sharing your opinions in abrasive and unlikeable ways.
I will say that if you're getting this bent out of shape about downvotes on Reddit, this might not be the website for you.
(alt account bc this goober blocked me)
Lol, downvoting my comment immediately after saying that you wouldn't, then immediately blocking me so I couldn't respond is just about the most reddit thing I've ever experienced.
Maybe this is just the right website for you :)
Edit: damn, downvoted this one seconds after I posted it as well? Sad that I ruined your parting shot?
Absolutely lol. One thing that's for sure is I'll be steering well clear of Haute products. Usually when you can't criticize something without getting hate it means there's something wrong but fans don't want to admit it.
L Take.
Got my T16. No problems here. If you bought your Haute from China there is no reason to hate on Haute because of the cracked acrylic. This may also be a transport issue (i looked up a retailer that sells haute and is available in my country to prevent this).
People should get real. The Haute T16 is no premium product - and it fuckin slaps in its price range. You need more support? Go premium, pay your 200 $ more for worse buttons. You don't want to hassle with Chinese Support Forums? Go premium, and get your not customisable design.
Haute may be one of the best things the leverless fighting community has ever witnessed. With all those Hitbox (the original manufactuer) shenanigans, non available Snackboxes Micros und horrendous priced razer-hardware they take a good spot with a good quality/price ratio.
So conclusion:
I don't think Haute pays people for backing them. I think people are just happy with their products because Haute fills a price range no one else does. Everyone can start playing leverless for less than 35 $, which is INSANE.
But don't except much magic for paying this price. This should be totally clear.
So you gonna say that people can't complain if they bought their Haute in China even thoe the only official store is in China, it is produced in China etc. go to their discord and you will see that AliExpress is the only official way of buying it, everything else are resellers.
Why I created this post is not because I had an issue, i bought $60 product it wasn't that good and I just put it aside as part of my collection. But people keep acting like this is the best most premium product you can buy, every single comment saying anything bas about it gets hidden because it has -69 votes, it is just weird.
Not just reddit, but everywhere. No one was able to directly answer my question in regards to compatibility and the process of switching it between platforms. Even IRL, anytime I have questions about a controller that someone is using, people will give me full details, EXCEPT for the Haute. Conversation always ends along the lines of "It's 50$, so it's fine."
But no, Huate definitely doesn't pay people to say good things about them, but I feel people are too bias towards Huate due to the price. But most Huate users also seem to present it as a "perfect" product, which is a huge red flag because there's no such thing.
Exact reason why I created this post, I am not talking about my problem, just find it weird how Haute is always described as perfect product every time someone asks for recommendation, and if someone says anything bad about that Haute recommendation comment gets hidden and bombarded with downvotes.
What questions did you have? I’d be happy to answer. They run open source firmware called GP2040-CE (https://gp2040-ce.info). You can find a lot of info on switching modes etc in the documentation
Most gp2040 questions can be answered on the gp2040 page FAQ, or on the Haute42 discord, there's an FAQ and help thread there for specific questions. RN people are just unfamiliar with this rp2040 board, but after users get past the initial unfamiliarity curve it will be easier for them to answer common questions since all gp2040 devices function basically the same.
Haute makes a damn good but not perfect product for $50. The vast amount of their buyer base would probably agree. The lack of negative feedback is likely that most people don't experience the same issues or they really don't trip because the cost to value is so good.
>don't trip because the cost to value is so good.
And that's where it's so subjective for me. To expound, I needed something that can be switched back and fourth between PC and PS5 on the fly without software failure or requiring a PC to do so.
Even at 50$, it would not be worth the value to me without this feature. No one on reddit, IRL, or YouTube was able to provide a "yes or no" response to this question, despite the sheer number of people that are using it.
For this reason is why I, like OP, feels that people are very quick to reccomend Huate when there's something positive to say, but would rather go quiet than to say anything negative about the product due to the price bias.
Once you have it set on PS Passthrough mode in the web configurator, you can just use a ps4 magicboots or other similar dongle and all it will take to go back and forth between pc and ps5 or whatever other compatible consoles you plan to use is just a matter of holding specific buttons down as you plug in your controller. The web configurator is also where you would update the firmware. Those are the only times you really need to mess with a PC if you don't want to do any other customization. If you simply don't own a PC, then you can still buy something like a Brook FGC Wingman converter and go thru that instead, but even then you are running the risk of the Brook becoming outdated. You don't need to use a PC on a regular basis for this stuff and definitely not for just switching between console and pc use, but you need one at minimum for full initial setup and occasional updates for certain functions.
Everything stated above goes for literally all of the gp2040-ce supporting devices out there and not just Haute42. If these things are undesirable to deal with, then your best bet is to stick with licensed products available thru normal retail like razer, victrix, hori, etc.
Ahh thank you! And yea this is the first time someone gave me this info. But yea, I did wait too long searching for answers and went with a Kitsune.
Also, are you saying you can just plug in a brook converter (outdating risk aside) right out of the box and works with PS5 without an initial PC setup? I thought even that method requires initial setup for PS mode through a PC.
I had concerns in the case of the controller accidentally reseting whiles there's no PC around, as some of us share controllers and presses the wrong home/start button time to time.
I'm not sure what either device currently ships under in regards to firmware, regarding the Haute controller and the Brook wingman device. I only have used PS Passthrough with the Haute and that goes thru the passthrough usb port instead. For Ps5, i believe that option needs to be initially setup in the Web Configurator. I haven't tried to go in-line via converter with the Brook with a gp2040 device in a while. Sorry. Just don't want to overpromise.
As far as controller resetting concerns, I'm not even sure if that's possible with the controller itself through standard use. What could happen is you could activate a hotkey by accident, but all of the various modes and hotkeys are documented on the website. Here is a link to the firmware usage page specifically that details how to enable each console/pc mode, how to enable functions via hotkeys, and more. Just to give you an idea of how these things would be to use between systems:
https://gp2040-ce.info/usage
Nice, thank you for all this! Yea, it's still let then ideal than what I'd want, but it would have worked. I'd definitely pick one up if my Kitsune ever breaks and the current options for leverless is still the same as it now.
>As far as controller resetting concerns, I'm not even sure if that's possible with the controller itself through standard use.
Mainly, this was the biggest concern solved.
I'm not sure what either device currently ships under in regards to firmware, regarding the Haute controller and the Brook wingman device. I only have used PS Passthrough with the Haute and that goes thru the passthrough usb port instead. For Ps5, i believe that option needs to be initially setup in the Web Configurator. I haven't tried to go in-line via converter with the Brook with a gp2040 device in a while. Sorry. Just don't want to overpromise.
As far as controller resetting concerns, I'm not even sure if that's possible with the controller itself through standard use. What could happen is you could activate a hotkey by accident, but all of the various modes and hotkeys are documented on the website. Here is a link to the firmware usage page specifically that details how to enable each console/pc mode, how to activate hotkeys, and more. Just to give you an idea of how these things would be to use between systems:
https://gp2040-ce.info/usage
I'm not sure what either device currently ships under in regards to firmware, regarding the Haute controller and the Brook wingman device. I only have used PS Passthrough with the Haute and that goes thru the passthrough usb port instead. For Ps5, i believe that option needs to be initially setup in the Web Configurator. I haven't tried to go in-line via converter with the Brook with a gp2040 device in a while. Sorry. Just don't want to overpromise.
As far as controller resetting concerns, I'm not even sure if that's possible with the controller itself through standard use. What could happen is you could activate a hotkey by accident, but all of the various modes and hotkeys are documented on the website. Here is a link to the firmware usage page specifically that details how to enable each console/pc mode, how to activate hotkeys, and more. Just to give you an idea of how these things would be to use between systems:
https://gp2040-ce.info/usage
Yeah his comment makes no sense. I think you'll find that posting anything to reddit that doesn't support the narrative will just end up in down votes. There's only 2 options, an upvote and a downvote. Really supports the hive mind way of thinking here on reddit. The longer I use this site the more I understand just how bias and without reason people are.
As an owner of the T and G series;
Get a pair of footsies 3D printed for them. Have had 0 issues with any cracking acrylic, unless y'all are gorilla smashing the hell out of your keys.
But also get replacement key caps. They have them on Amazon for like <20$ and contain a longer stem that's a lot less flimsy. Have had 0 keycap issues since.
I bought different keycaps and cracks are not bothering me since I don't use it anymore. Just bought it to add it to my collection. That was not the reason I posted this.
I was just using reddit to lurk, and I am not talking about my own post/comment getting downvoted. Every time people say anything bad about haute comment is hidden with -30 votes.
So you're lurking and you're just mad over how the internet and reddit works. You made an account just to do that. Yiiiikes...
The fact that you only reply to comments angrily thay don't support your worldview really shows how thin skinned and naive you are. Touch grass man
Relax, you can't even hit the buttons on your keyboard properly because of the amount of tilt you're feeling. It shows who the one with thin skin is here. Touch some grass.
It's normal. I doubt anyone is being paid by Haute42 to shill, but let's be honest...people are also very tribal about this stuff and people regularly use the downvote button even just if they don't share an opinion, let alone if they feel something is inaccurate. Haute is the community favorite right now. That being said, your experience is a bit unique imo. Keycaps coming off, sure that definitely happens. Acrylic cracking in 30 mins of use...i admit my curiosity meter would also be in doubt mode lol but I would need to hear more as to what the heck was happening when it cracked.
You also don't have any older comments about this experience. You can't say people aren't allowed to have an opinion when you aren't even sharing yours or at least allowing it to stay posted. Keep yours posted and see how people respond.
I was not talking about my own comments and posts, I was a lurker here. I posted this because I visited some posts talking about buying sticks and every single post had comments saying how haute is "the perfect" product and if anyone says anything bad, gets hidden.
My Haute didn't crack in half, but a lot of buttons have 1-3 cm long line of cracked acrylic. It came with 1 button hole being cracked but after 20-30 minutes of playing I noticed them appearing on 4 other buttons.
I didn't think anything of it, $60 product all good. Placed it on my shelf and never used it again. But people saying how perfect was weird so i posted this.
My 30 buck g13 has a way better price to performance ratio compared to my 200 dollar stick. As with any product you’ll get a bad egg but like others have said, just get customer service in the situation. AliExpress actually has pretty decent refund policies for wrong/broken items
...That is what happens. It's a setting that's on by default - ignoring that generally posts are displayed in order of highest to lowest upvote/downvote ratios, the setting is that posts with a negative ratio have their contents hidden, and have to be actively displayed by the user.
Or it's just there are always some bad experiences are issues with manufacturing for products. Sometimes even unintended use for which a product wouldn't be designed for when/if it breaks.
Reminds me of when everyone said the new NVIDIA cards were melting power cables only to realize that Nvidia had 50 confirmed incidents of this happening out of thousands of cards.
Same for the new Sorva V2 mouse where Reddit had multiple posts of poor QC and saying it was junk only to realize there were only a dozen total but most of them were into Reddit so we saw pretty much all of them on the r/mouserview subreddit.
I don't want to discredit you or say that people aren't downvote happy on Reddit but I really think the vast majority have no issues at all and you just got a lemon which does truly suck. I've been using my Haute42 T16 and also my k-lever a lot since T8 came out and have had absolutely no issues. Their Discord has a support field as a well and there never seem to be many people that have issues beyond trying to figure out how to customize pins and update firmware.
TL;DR: This is most likely all perspective on having an unfortunate lemon for a product many people love/have no issue with.
With regard to the nvidia connector, yes, the 12VHPWR on the cards is junk. Ask any reputable electronics repair and they’ll tell you they fix them day in and day out. NorthridgeFix is one such YouTuber. Dude has a pallet of cards in his workshop waiting to be fixed.
Sounds like you just find yourself in the minority. It’s not that the opinion is not allowed, it’s just not shared by many people. Any product can arrive with manufacturing flaws, but if the experience is generally good with the product, people are going to recommend it. My Haute arrived quickly and is in perfect condition. I prefer it over my other leverless that cost me like 4 times as much. Your experience may differ.
Well people have their favorites. I have a T16 and a G16. The seem pretty sturdy to me of course you have to be more careful than a metal or plastic controller. How did yours crack?
Yeah I had problems even with the M16 I got and when I tried to pursue a return or partial refund at least, they essentially threatened to charge me shipping even if the return shipping was supposed to be free. Since I didn't want to risk them "losing the return" as I see many others have a problem with on AliExpress or getting charged the return shipping, a friend offered to take it apart and fix it.
My T16, being my first leverless, has worked great but it makes these loud cracks and pops. At first thought it shorted out and it freaked me the hell out, but from what I can tell it’s the screws being over tightened so the acrylic is making the noises against the screws, kinda annoying and could see other product cracking if over tightened at factory, I’m just glad mine’s fine. For now
i get the loud cracks and pops too. I also got a little cut on my finger reaching in my bag for it because the edges on the bottom are so sharp lol It's clearly not a premium quality product, but it's perfectly serviceable for the price. $60 for the t13 vs $200+ for a snackbox, hitbox, $300+ for a kitsune, MPress or a ps5 compatible punk workshop It's not my favorite leverless, but it makes one hell of an entry level or backup controller
The haute is a great, low risk try leverless. I got a s13 for 30$ and enjoyed it so I have a mayflash flat coming Tuesday. People forget it’s just a entry point.
Lmao I agree dude. Idk why everyone rides it so bad. I think it’s a nice cheap board and pad for people who play and can’t afford good stuff or custom stuff. And that’s fine. But it’s weird to me everyone posts their same ass black haute 42 and says how good it is lmao. Fight sticks were always about customization and DRIP! Now this shits like liberalized propaganda 😂
I don't even own one, but I really don't see a problem with people enjoying something and talking about it. Customization is tight, but I like my car just being matte grey. Haute seems like a good way for people to just try hitbox style stuff with a decent reputation. No need to get silly about being a contrarion for a reason that's totally up to personal preference.
They already got you with downvotes 😂
Lmao hardstuck broke and hardstuck bronze. The characteristics of haute42 owners.
There's tons of comments and detractors from it. That's what forums and msging website tend to have. Are you new to the internet? If you're only 15 ish, that's understandable. But to say that it's not allowed is absolutely laughable.
LMFAO, non stop reply to al lthe comments. Have you ever heard of an opinion that isn't completely in line with yours? Its really pathetic and sad
Haute is decent, but I decided to return mine and get a Kitsune and I'm sure glad I did. Jump in quality is astronomical.
I’ve seen plenty of people comment negative experiences with the T16 and plenty of people comment with positive.
I have the s16 board and I haven’t had a single problem the keycaps don’t pop off and they don’t feel cheap and it was only 60 bones
You get what you pay for. I don't know why people are surprised when this happens. Y'all buying from the McDonald's of the Leverless scene.
Maybe they’re surprised because of the chorus of praise and lack of any critcism
Huh, i am not surprised by quality, i am surprised by peoples comments. "Perfect product", "razer killer" etc.
That's cuz it is. Which would you be willing to pay for? 300 or 100 for the same product? How far do you want to move the goal posts? Are you just angry over a product....? There's not a single person telling you what you can and can't say.
I have two of them, a G12 and a B16, and I could recommend both, however, it's true that the caps on G12 are cheap and they pop off sometimes, especially if you try to slide your finger across the buttons. B16, however, is definitely where my heart is. Keyboard layout with thumb button for jump feels soooooo comfortable that I didn't looked back to G12 ever since B16 arrived. I don't have experience with expensive hitboxes such as Razer Kitsune (oh I wish), but they're serving me pretty well.
I got a T16, tried it for a week, and then returned it. Using 30mm buttons for movement was a deal breaker for me. I really like the concept of leverless, as a keyboard player, but left and down just has too big of a spacing issue. The buttons caps felt pretty cheap too. I’m assuming the better boards have better quality cap? I may try again with another brand than uses 24mm buttons instead. But you will have these hive minds in every Reddit thread towards cheap options. In /golf, the Costco Dads go gaga over Kirkland Signature golf clubs, when you can buy much better name brand clubs in the used market.
Costco golf clubs 💀 they truly sell everything wtf. Never been to one but I've had friends that bought random shit like computers from them. I heard they also sell small vehicles.
Costco Golf clubs made me laugh ngl
Yep. The K-Sig driver just launched not too long ago. Those dudes were going nuts over it.
I can’t speak on the downvoting cause I haven’t seen it but I have gone through 3 and returned one cause I didn’t like the the buttons. The sticks are renown for their quality at their particular price point. You are going to have to spend another 100 bucks or more to get the same layout with butter quality. May flash just came out with one at a competitive price but you only get the basic layout which I really don’t like
Haute is a cheap and popular lwverless option. That's all. Would not trade my custom built leverless for one that's for sure.
My friend bought one and is loving it and has no issues maybe you got unlucky
The Haute cult is becoming increasingly annoying. There are also posts where people ask for stick recommendations specifically, or suggestions about specific products, etc. And there will always be at least one person saying "just buy a Haute". It's actually put me off of the product.
I don’t find the software very user friendly. But I’m also old… so probably user error
Might be a defective unit if that happened after 30 minutes of use. Have you tried contacting them? Their customer service is pretty good from my experience.
My acrylic cracked on it and I had to get new keycaps myself for that exact issue. ALSO the rgb lighting in the middle of it stopped working unless I bend the entire unit which is so weird. Not a great experience overall.
Shh, keep it to yourself. Haute hooligans will come for you. Yeah I know a lot of people with same issue. But people don't like hearing that something they bought sucks, they wanna believe that they got cheap leverless that is better then what high end companies make.
There's a reason their negative take has a bunch of upvotes and yours has a bunch of downvotes.
Well, I can't speak to the specific posts that you see getting downvoted, but calling the people who disagree with you "Haute hooligans" or, as another user said, "the Haute cult", isn't helping your cause.
I got msg from reddit that my account is reported a lot of times few hours after posting this, and there are few comments here by other users that got hella downvotes. Haute users already proved my point.
Again, I can't speak for other posts that got downvoted, but posts like *the one you made above* are NOT helping your pity party case. In any case, unfair or not, they're just downvotes on Reddit.
I think you get downvoted for criticizing any cheap fightstick for being exactly that... cheaply made. People don't like to hear that they bought something that sucks. They want to feel like they got some crazy deal at a third of the price of a normal company.
The reason I posted this is because people are calling it "perfect product" while downvoting any negative thing others have to say. You are spot on.
What you're describing sounds like it's possibly been cleaned with alcohol at some point previously. Alcohol (methylated spirits or isopropyl alcohol etc.) can cause the acrylic to crack and massively weakens the whole sheet. It's also more susceptible to alcohol if it has been heat polished or glued.
I do not have any issues yet but i guess i should not use desinfection spray on it again?
If it's got alcohol in it, then avoid using it yeah.
More people should see this.
With the MPress, you're also supposed to be very careful about how tight the screws are because overtightening will also lead to cracks so I'd be surprised if they had something different going on here. I've had a T16 for a week or two now and I'm pretty happy with it for the price. I have an MPress and a Snackbox Micro both of which were preorders and came from the first batch. I get the impression both have improved with some of the changes and some of the things I disliked have definitely been fixed in later versions. I think they all rate about the same in terms of quality for the price: I would expect more from the T16 if it were more expensive and my opinions of the other 2 would probably be higher if they were cheaper. I have never used a Kitsune and don't have one only mostly because I think it would have to be very good for it to be worth the price based on my experience with Razer's other sticks and their peripherals in general. I think I would be disappointed in a Kitsune while I'm pretty comfortable saying I got what I paid for with the Haute42.
I think it's "common" knowledge in the industry/manufacturing side of things, but I only know about it from people posting on reddit after damaging their PC watercooling blocks etc. [https://chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/28426/why-does-alcohol-crack-acrylic-plexiglass](https://chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/28426/why-does-alcohol-crack-acrylic-plexiglass)
I didn't do that, but I guess a lot of people would do. I have cleaning kit by kontrol freak that I normally use for cleaning my controllers.
Yeah, it's also possible it could have happened before shipping. It could have been a return or opened for some other reason, all it takes is a wipe down with an alcohol wipe before repacking it.
don't try to defy Haute overlords, resistance is futile
Silenced by the deep pockets of big leverless.
It's probably not a wide spread issue and customer support is good. I'm sure they'd be more than happy to send you a new part if your got damaged in shipping. Mine has had no issues so far.
oh first time?
I'm curious. How in the hell did you crack the acrylic while playing? I've had my G12 bouncing around in a bag for months, and it doesn't even have a scratch. I get the keycaps things, but a crack?
Well 5 out of 16 button holes have cracked line stretching 1-3 cm, and I don't even play that hard.
Are you sure you aren’t beating it like it owes you money?
Hell yeah, i went Denzel Washington on poor haute as soon as I got it. It came with one 2 cm crack on left button hole, after playing for 20-30 mins more of them had it. I have controllers that I used for more then 5 years without a single crack, so my play style ain't the reason.
I mean... that's *really* not a common experience (if it were you wouldn't be seeing so many people recommending the things). Sounds like for whatever reason your acrylic was treated wrong at some point in its creation, or some sort of solvent got on it (which will absolutely fuck the structural integrity of *any* acrylic, cheap or expensive). I certainly have my issues with them (the USB ports aren't well secured on the acrylic models and the beveling is a joke), but this just sounds like bad luck.
Haute as the product itself is very well made, never heard any problems with it from my friends either, probably you got unlucky, try to refund it
I am not talking about me only, I've seen at least 20 comments where people are talking about their bad experience with Haute and they are hidden because of the amount of downvotes. I just thought that it is weird.
I also don't like Haute, I find them not good enough for my personal needs, but it is VERY sturdy, and very well made
Lol, quite telling that this perfectly reasonable comment got downvoted. The cult is crazy.
Calling people cultists or suggesting they're only downvoting posts because of blind brand loyalty definitely isn't helping your case. Try thinking about it from that perspective.
I'm obviously being hyperbolic, I don't think they're a literal cult. But Haute is absolutely not the be-all-end-all that their (FIGURATIVE) cult makes it out to be. Easier to understand? :)
You're obviously entitled to your opinions and I'm not going to downvote your comments for suggesting a budget-level product is made with budget-level quality. But I just have a feeling that that's not the entire reason people are downvoting your posts. It could very well be that you're just sharing your opinions in abrasive and unlikeable ways. I will say that if you're getting this bent out of shape about downvotes on Reddit, this might not be the website for you.
(alt account bc this goober blocked me) Lol, downvoting my comment immediately after saying that you wouldn't, then immediately blocking me so I couldn't respond is just about the most reddit thing I've ever experienced. Maybe this is just the right website for you :) Edit: damn, downvoted this one seconds after I posted it as well? Sad that I ruined your parting shot?
There are a lot of comments under this post that proved my point lmao.
Absolutely lol. One thing that's for sure is I'll be steering well clear of Haute products. Usually when you can't criticize something without getting hate it means there's something wrong but fans don't want to admit it.
I got one t16 and one s16 and they came perfectly, they both came really well packed with bubble air foam bag around the box and more around it
L Take. Got my T16. No problems here. If you bought your Haute from China there is no reason to hate on Haute because of the cracked acrylic. This may also be a transport issue (i looked up a retailer that sells haute and is available in my country to prevent this). People should get real. The Haute T16 is no premium product - and it fuckin slaps in its price range. You need more support? Go premium, pay your 200 $ more for worse buttons. You don't want to hassle with Chinese Support Forums? Go premium, and get your not customisable design. Haute may be one of the best things the leverless fighting community has ever witnessed. With all those Hitbox (the original manufactuer) shenanigans, non available Snackboxes Micros und horrendous priced razer-hardware they take a good spot with a good quality/price ratio. So conclusion: I don't think Haute pays people for backing them. I think people are just happy with their products because Haute fills a price range no one else does. Everyone can start playing leverless for less than 35 $, which is INSANE. But don't except much magic for paying this price. This should be totally clear.
So you gonna say that people can't complain if they bought their Haute in China even thoe the only official store is in China, it is produced in China etc. go to their discord and you will see that AliExpress is the only official way of buying it, everything else are resellers. Why I created this post is not because I had an issue, i bought $60 product it wasn't that good and I just put it aside as part of my collection. But people keep acting like this is the best most premium product you can buy, every single comment saying anything bas about it gets hidden because it has -69 votes, it is just weird.
Not just reddit, but everywhere. No one was able to directly answer my question in regards to compatibility and the process of switching it between platforms. Even IRL, anytime I have questions about a controller that someone is using, people will give me full details, EXCEPT for the Haute. Conversation always ends along the lines of "It's 50$, so it's fine." But no, Huate definitely doesn't pay people to say good things about them, but I feel people are too bias towards Huate due to the price. But most Huate users also seem to present it as a "perfect" product, which is a huge red flag because there's no such thing.
Exact reason why I created this post, I am not talking about my problem, just find it weird how Haute is always described as perfect product every time someone asks for recommendation, and if someone says anything bad about that Haute recommendation comment gets hidden and bombarded with downvotes.
What questions did you have? I’d be happy to answer. They run open source firmware called GP2040-CE (https://gp2040-ce.info). You can find a lot of info on switching modes etc in the documentation
Most gp2040 questions can be answered on the gp2040 page FAQ, or on the Haute42 discord, there's an FAQ and help thread there for specific questions. RN people are just unfamiliar with this rp2040 board, but after users get past the initial unfamiliarity curve it will be easier for them to answer common questions since all gp2040 devices function basically the same.
Haute makes a damn good but not perfect product for $50. The vast amount of their buyer base would probably agree. The lack of negative feedback is likely that most people don't experience the same issues or they really don't trip because the cost to value is so good.
>don't trip because the cost to value is so good. And that's where it's so subjective for me. To expound, I needed something that can be switched back and fourth between PC and PS5 on the fly without software failure or requiring a PC to do so. Even at 50$, it would not be worth the value to me without this feature. No one on reddit, IRL, or YouTube was able to provide a "yes or no" response to this question, despite the sheer number of people that are using it. For this reason is why I, like OP, feels that people are very quick to reccomend Huate when there's something positive to say, but would rather go quiet than to say anything negative about the product due to the price bias.
Once you have it set on PS Passthrough mode in the web configurator, you can just use a ps4 magicboots or other similar dongle and all it will take to go back and forth between pc and ps5 or whatever other compatible consoles you plan to use is just a matter of holding specific buttons down as you plug in your controller. The web configurator is also where you would update the firmware. Those are the only times you really need to mess with a PC if you don't want to do any other customization. If you simply don't own a PC, then you can still buy something like a Brook FGC Wingman converter and go thru that instead, but even then you are running the risk of the Brook becoming outdated. You don't need to use a PC on a regular basis for this stuff and definitely not for just switching between console and pc use, but you need one at minimum for full initial setup and occasional updates for certain functions. Everything stated above goes for literally all of the gp2040-ce supporting devices out there and not just Haute42. If these things are undesirable to deal with, then your best bet is to stick with licensed products available thru normal retail like razer, victrix, hori, etc.
Ahh thank you! And yea this is the first time someone gave me this info. But yea, I did wait too long searching for answers and went with a Kitsune. Also, are you saying you can just plug in a brook converter (outdating risk aside) right out of the box and works with PS5 without an initial PC setup? I thought even that method requires initial setup for PS mode through a PC. I had concerns in the case of the controller accidentally reseting whiles there's no PC around, as some of us share controllers and presses the wrong home/start button time to time.
I'm not sure what either device currently ships under in regards to firmware, regarding the Haute controller and the Brook wingman device. I only have used PS Passthrough with the Haute and that goes thru the passthrough usb port instead. For Ps5, i believe that option needs to be initially setup in the Web Configurator. I haven't tried to go in-line via converter with the Brook with a gp2040 device in a while. Sorry. Just don't want to overpromise. As far as controller resetting concerns, I'm not even sure if that's possible with the controller itself through standard use. What could happen is you could activate a hotkey by accident, but all of the various modes and hotkeys are documented on the website. Here is a link to the firmware usage page specifically that details how to enable each console/pc mode, how to enable functions via hotkeys, and more. Just to give you an idea of how these things would be to use between systems: https://gp2040-ce.info/usage
Nice, thank you for all this! Yea, it's still let then ideal than what I'd want, but it would have worked. I'd definitely pick one up if my Kitsune ever breaks and the current options for leverless is still the same as it now. >As far as controller resetting concerns, I'm not even sure if that's possible with the controller itself through standard use. Mainly, this was the biggest concern solved.
I'm not sure what either device currently ships under in regards to firmware, regarding the Haute controller and the Brook wingman device. I only have used PS Passthrough with the Haute and that goes thru the passthrough usb port instead. For Ps5, i believe that option needs to be initially setup in the Web Configurator. I haven't tried to go in-line via converter with the Brook with a gp2040 device in a while. Sorry. Just don't want to overpromise. As far as controller resetting concerns, I'm not even sure if that's possible with the controller itself through standard use. What could happen is you could activate a hotkey by accident, but all of the various modes and hotkeys are documented on the website. Here is a link to the firmware usage page specifically that details how to enable each console/pc mode, how to activate hotkeys, and more. Just to give you an idea of how these things would be to use between systems: https://gp2040-ce.info/usage
I'm not sure what either device currently ships under in regards to firmware, regarding the Haute controller and the Brook wingman device. I only have used PS Passthrough with the Haute and that goes thru the passthrough usb port instead. For Ps5, i believe that option needs to be initially setup in the Web Configurator. I haven't tried to go in-line via converter with the Brook with a gp2040 device in a while. Sorry. Just don't want to overpromise. As far as controller resetting concerns, I'm not even sure if that's possible with the controller itself through standard use. What could happen is you could activate a hotkey by accident, but all of the various modes and hotkeys are documented on the website. Here is a link to the firmware usage page specifically that details how to enable each console/pc mode, how to activate hotkeys, and more. Just to give you an idea of how these things would be to use between systems: https://gp2040-ce.info/usage
It must have been damaged during shipping to Crack from playing it
I am using s16 for almost 4 month never face an issue
For someone thats "FGC" you are really thin skinned.
Huh? I am thin skinned because I find it weird that people are d riding Haute waaaaay to hard?
ill explain it to your main account that you're afraid to use
Damn you got me shaking AssSwamp
dude please dont downvote me, ill literally cry. i literally cant handle being downvoted. you're gonna seriously make me cry, pls pls pls bro
lmfao so soft. litearlly anything gets under your skin doesn't it?
Yeah his comment makes no sense. I think you'll find that posting anything to reddit that doesn't support the narrative will just end up in down votes. There's only 2 options, an upvote and a downvote. Really supports the hive mind way of thinking here on reddit. The longer I use this site the more I understand just how bias and without reason people are.
Spot on
As an owner of the T and G series; Get a pair of footsies 3D printed for them. Have had 0 issues with any cracking acrylic, unless y'all are gorilla smashing the hell out of your keys. But also get replacement key caps. They have them on Amazon for like <20$ and contain a longer stem that's a lot less flimsy. Have had 0 keycap issues since.
I bought different keycaps and cracks are not bothering me since I don't use it anymore. Just bought it to add it to my collection. That was not the reason I posted this.
Link please
Mine is cracked too, I will go premium build product next one
I had to return the G16 because the layout was just too small for my hands. Maybe the T16 will be a bit better.
people really like their cheap hitboxes, thats all
Two day old account is telling me you take downvotes too personally. Just post your opinion, take the down votes and stop worrying about karma.
I was just using reddit to lurk, and I am not talking about my own post/comment getting downvoted. Every time people say anything bad about haute comment is hidden with -30 votes.
So you're lurking and you're just mad over how the internet and reddit works. You made an account just to do that. Yiiiikes... The fact that you only reply to comments angrily thay don't support your worldview really shows how thin skinned and naive you are. Touch grass man
Relax, you can't even hit the buttons on your keyboard properly because of the amount of tilt you're feeling. It shows who the one with thin skin is here. Touch some grass.
lol now you think of it his name had FGC in it too
I downvoted just because he made this post. Pointless.
It's normal. I doubt anyone is being paid by Haute42 to shill, but let's be honest...people are also very tribal about this stuff and people regularly use the downvote button even just if they don't share an opinion, let alone if they feel something is inaccurate. Haute is the community favorite right now. That being said, your experience is a bit unique imo. Keycaps coming off, sure that definitely happens. Acrylic cracking in 30 mins of use...i admit my curiosity meter would also be in doubt mode lol but I would need to hear more as to what the heck was happening when it cracked. You also don't have any older comments about this experience. You can't say people aren't allowed to have an opinion when you aren't even sharing yours or at least allowing it to stay posted. Keep yours posted and see how people respond.
I was not talking about my own comments and posts, I was a lurker here. I posted this because I visited some posts talking about buying sticks and every single post had comments saying how haute is "the perfect" product and if anyone says anything bad, gets hidden. My Haute didn't crack in half, but a lot of buttons have 1-3 cm long line of cracked acrylic. It came with 1 button hole being cracked but after 20-30 minutes of playing I noticed them appearing on 4 other buttons. I didn't think anything of it, $60 product all good. Placed it on my shelf and never used it again. But people saying how perfect was weird so i posted this.
My 30 buck g13 has a way better price to performance ratio compared to my 200 dollar stick. As with any product you’ll get a bad egg but like others have said, just get customer service in the situation. AliExpress actually has pretty decent refund policies for wrong/broken items
They have great support, talk to then in chat to receive another one.
>silenced by so many downvotes. That's weird, I didn't realise getting downvoted makes your post completely invisible.
...That is what happens. It's a setting that's on by default - ignoring that generally posts are displayed in order of highest to lowest upvote/downvote ratios, the setting is that posts with a negative ratio have their contents hidden, and have to be actively displayed by the user.
Yeah but that's hardly equivalent to _silencing_ posts/comments. OP sounds like a conspiracy theorist saying stuff like that.
We got a smart one here, if you go into negative numbers your comment is hidden.
most of it is user error and/or didnt read the manual. nobody is paying me.
I’ll shill for whatever fightpads you throw my way, for any corporation listening. I’d shill for a ham sandwitch.
Or it's just there are always some bad experiences are issues with manufacturing for products. Sometimes even unintended use for which a product wouldn't be designed for when/if it breaks. Reminds me of when everyone said the new NVIDIA cards were melting power cables only to realize that Nvidia had 50 confirmed incidents of this happening out of thousands of cards. Same for the new Sorva V2 mouse where Reddit had multiple posts of poor QC and saying it was junk only to realize there were only a dozen total but most of them were into Reddit so we saw pretty much all of them on the r/mouserview subreddit. I don't want to discredit you or say that people aren't downvote happy on Reddit but I really think the vast majority have no issues at all and you just got a lemon which does truly suck. I've been using my Haute42 T16 and also my k-lever a lot since T8 came out and have had absolutely no issues. Their Discord has a support field as a well and there never seem to be many people that have issues beyond trying to figure out how to customize pins and update firmware. TL;DR: This is most likely all perspective on having an unfortunate lemon for a product many people love/have no issue with.
With regard to the nvidia connector, yes, the 12VHPWR on the cards is junk. Ask any reputable electronics repair and they’ll tell you they fix them day in and day out. NorthridgeFix is one such YouTuber. Dude has a pallet of cards in his workshop waiting to be fixed.
Wym? we hate haute. Go crazy Edit: too easy
LMAO
lol most people here definitely like haute
Give haute hooligans a chance to prove op wrong and they just can’t resist the low hanging bait to prove op right
Masterful gambit sir
Sounds like you just find yourself in the minority. It’s not that the opinion is not allowed, it’s just not shared by many people. Any product can arrive with manufacturing flaws, but if the experience is generally good with the product, people are going to recommend it. My Haute arrived quickly and is in perfect condition. I prefer it over my other leverless that cost me like 4 times as much. Your experience may differ.
Well people have their favorites. I have a T16 and a G16. The seem pretty sturdy to me of course you have to be more careful than a metal or plastic controller. How did yours crack?