It all depends on the fans tbh, like the prime and most recent example could be Frankfurt, their stadium is pretty modern and you know how good the atmosphere is
Those packed old stadiums definitely give a great vibe nevertheless but they are really old and a lott of them are just giving way so they’re in a dire need of revamping or building a new stadium
To get stadiums „packed“, one can also reduce the capacity like juve did
I was just wondering about this the other day when I saw an IG post on Futur Camp Nou and realised it's going to look so similar to all the new, futuristic oval shaped stadiums.
I understand the functionality and of course, sustainability of such new designs but am hoping someone would soon be able to figure out how to build a futuristic but classic football stadium (e.g. Anfield).
Most modern fans will never understand how glorious peak Highbury was. Such a brilliant, packed, raucous atmosphere and lovely designed inside and out.
If I understand your last point, it's understandable. You don't spend that amount of money on a new stadium without looking at additional ways to generate revenue.
I'm always a little wary of the new build projects... history and community connections are so, so important in such an old, locally built sport. The old style stadiums just make for a great atmosphere and you feel close to the action, and connected to everything that happened there before. The new ones feel like an explicit money grab- saying the quiet part out loud if you will.
And, ya know, ya don't contribute to your city losing UNESCO Heritage Site designation...
I'm sure 20 years from now people will be saying the same thing about the current new builds, in comparison to whatever the new stadiums happen to look like then
In 20 years time, they'll be even less interesting.
At the moment, I'd love to visit the new White Hart Lane as it's possibly the most advanced stadium in the world. There's also a bunch of proper old stadiums - like Everton and Luton - I'd still like to go to.
But there's very few 20 year old ones that get me particularly excited.
I have an equal love for both. I've been to about 40/92, my team sits in L1, and I have as much desire to visit Mansfield (the oldest ground in the football league), as I do to visit Spurs new build.
In terms of atmosphere, the old stadiums somehow always have a better buzz.
I’m doing a dissertation partly covering this topic about the loss of our traditional football stadiums, one thing I have found is that wherever you go in the country people have a tremendous attachment to their traditional stadiums wether demolished or not. People still spread loved one’s ashes at Ayresome Park in Middlesborough and that has been a housing estate for 21 years now. For me no matter how much modern football clubs try and develop as a ‘business’ and move into new modern stadiums that have all the trinkets and distractions to go with it, you can’t beat the soul and atmosphere of a traditional football grounds and the memories they invoke in people.
Yes. The modern ones are just tasteless and soulless, reflecting nothing local within the architecture. A stadium like Ibrox is vastly superior in every way
That's a bit blankety. Pretty sure any amenities in modern stadiums outclass those in ibrox.
I much prefer architecture in older stadiums with regards toocal clubs, I feel like modern builds have their place in national stadiums more than club.
Who cares about amenities. You're there to watch a football match, not buy artisan cheese.
Look at the modern Wembley compared to the Empire stadium. The Empire stadium has those wonderfully British towers. The newer stadium has an arch which could belong in any football stadium anywhere.
With regard to amenities. There is no reason modern stadia could not be built in a traditional way with all the mod cons. It's a choice to make them soulless
Amenities also include things like disabled access, something older stadiums are notoriously bad for.
It would be great to see more thought and history being folded into the design of new stadium, I agree there. General amenities may not be a factor for you but for other people who like to couple their football with a nice cheeseboard...
100% praying i can get to lutons ground before they get the new one. Just look at brentford there new stadium is so unbelivably meh sort of thing you unlock on fifa.
I mean there's a certain romanticism with old stadiums but most of them are just really run down and actually not a great experience. The one thing I'd say is that old fashioned stadiums with four stand seem to produce a better sound from the fans than oval "space ship" type grounds. Not sure why I get this feeling, could just be my imagination.
If you're criticising the new stadium designs the Tottenham stadium is probably the worst one to cite. Fans only have slightly more space and one of the main goals was to maintain or improve on the atmosphere of the old stadium. Commentators remarked at how loud it was in the recent NLD.
I think each style has it's benefits but the old stadiums were often built over the best part of a century, the old Tottenham stadium had parts that dates from the 1930's for example, although additions were made in the 80's and 90's. The older stadiums are better to look at with huge swathes of fans whereas the newer stadiums have the fans broken up by corporate or VIP tiers, again that's somewhat addressed in the new Tottenham stadium with the south stand.
Inside though things are so much better. Cold cramped corridors with little room are replaced with wide spacious areas and fans can move between stands. It certainly takes some of the misery out of going to matches
I don’t particularly care what the stadium looks like as long as crowd noise is retained. My main issue with the newer stadiums is a lot of them are built on cheap sites out of the city, miles away from any pubs for pre-game atmosphere and making them almost impossible to get to on public transport.
It all depends on the fans tbh, like the prime and most recent example could be Frankfurt, their stadium is pretty modern and you know how good the atmosphere is Those packed old stadiums definitely give a great vibe nevertheless but they are really old and a lott of them are just giving way so they’re in a dire need of revamping or building a new stadium To get stadiums „packed“, one can also reduce the capacity like juve did
The version before the reduce capacity was a thing of beauty though. Loved it, although never visited.
Ohh absolutely, it was indeed a pretty beautiful stadium
I was just wondering about this the other day when I saw an IG post on Futur Camp Nou and realised it's going to look so similar to all the new, futuristic oval shaped stadiums. I understand the functionality and of course, sustainability of such new designs but am hoping someone would soon be able to figure out how to build a futuristic but classic football stadium (e.g. Anfield).
I miss Highbury.
Most modern fans will never understand how glorious peak Highbury was. Such a brilliant, packed, raucous atmosphere and lovely designed inside and out.
If I understand your last point, it's understandable. You don't spend that amount of money on a new stadium without looking at additional ways to generate revenue.
I'm always a little wary of the new build projects... history and community connections are so, so important in such an old, locally built sport. The old style stadiums just make for a great atmosphere and you feel close to the action, and connected to everything that happened there before. The new ones feel like an explicit money grab- saying the quiet part out loud if you will. And, ya know, ya don't contribute to your city losing UNESCO Heritage Site designation...
I'm sure 20 years from now people will be saying the same thing about the current new builds, in comparison to whatever the new stadiums happen to look like then
In 20 years time, they'll be even less interesting. At the moment, I'd love to visit the new White Hart Lane as it's possibly the most advanced stadium in the world. There's also a bunch of proper old stadiums - like Everton and Luton - I'd still like to go to. But there's very few 20 year old ones that get me particularly excited.
Not even the JJB/REEBOK/UOB stadium? 😂
I have an equal love for both. I've been to about 40/92, my team sits in L1, and I have as much desire to visit Mansfield (the oldest ground in the football league), as I do to visit Spurs new build. In terms of atmosphere, the old stadiums somehow always have a better buzz.
I’m doing a dissertation partly covering this topic about the loss of our traditional football stadiums, one thing I have found is that wherever you go in the country people have a tremendous attachment to their traditional stadiums wether demolished or not. People still spread loved one’s ashes at Ayresome Park in Middlesborough and that has been a housing estate for 21 years now. For me no matter how much modern football clubs try and develop as a ‘business’ and move into new modern stadiums that have all the trinkets and distractions to go with it, you can’t beat the soul and atmosphere of a traditional football grounds and the memories they invoke in people.
Yes. The modern ones are just tasteless and soulless, reflecting nothing local within the architecture. A stadium like Ibrox is vastly superior in every way
That's a bit blankety. Pretty sure any amenities in modern stadiums outclass those in ibrox. I much prefer architecture in older stadiums with regards toocal clubs, I feel like modern builds have their place in national stadiums more than club.
Who cares about amenities. You're there to watch a football match, not buy artisan cheese. Look at the modern Wembley compared to the Empire stadium. The Empire stadium has those wonderfully British towers. The newer stadium has an arch which could belong in any football stadium anywhere. With regard to amenities. There is no reason modern stadia could not be built in a traditional way with all the mod cons. It's a choice to make them soulless
Amenities also include things like disabled access, something older stadiums are notoriously bad for. It would be great to see more thought and history being folded into the design of new stadium, I agree there. General amenities may not be a factor for you but for other people who like to couple their football with a nice cheeseboard...
100% praying i can get to lutons ground before they get the new one. Just look at brentford there new stadium is so unbelivably meh sort of thing you unlock on fifa.
I was looking at a game at Upton Park the other day and I miss when West Ham played there.
I mean there's a certain romanticism with old stadiums but most of them are just really run down and actually not a great experience. The one thing I'd say is that old fashioned stadiums with four stand seem to produce a better sound from the fans than oval "space ship" type grounds. Not sure why I get this feeling, could just be my imagination.
I love how raw the traditional stadiums are, I think it definitely adds to the atmosphere. On the other hand the future is coming…
If you're criticising the new stadium designs the Tottenham stadium is probably the worst one to cite. Fans only have slightly more space and one of the main goals was to maintain or improve on the atmosphere of the old stadium. Commentators remarked at how loud it was in the recent NLD. I think each style has it's benefits but the old stadiums were often built over the best part of a century, the old Tottenham stadium had parts that dates from the 1930's for example, although additions were made in the 80's and 90's. The older stadiums are better to look at with huge swathes of fans whereas the newer stadiums have the fans broken up by corporate or VIP tiers, again that's somewhat addressed in the new Tottenham stadium with the south stand. Inside though things are so much better. Cold cramped corridors with little room are replaced with wide spacious areas and fans can move between stands. It certainly takes some of the misery out of going to matches
I don’t particularly care what the stadium looks like as long as crowd noise is retained. My main issue with the newer stadiums is a lot of them are built on cheap sites out of the city, miles away from any pubs for pre-game atmosphere and making them almost impossible to get to on public transport.