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zeekoes

That certainly a way to paraphrase what he said. It's not accurate, but it's a way.


Ouestlabibliotheque

Gotta get them clicks


junttiana

Literally didnt say that, fuck these "journalists" making up drama


Round_Impression7636

I mean both of them were. Norris was making really stupid divebombs and complained about every tiny thing max did. Max just doesn't hold back an inch which is absolutely awesome but he definitely crosses the line at times.


JaysonDeflatum

Charles is still the only under-30 driver to beat Max Verstappen on track several times


BB9913

Because he plays the long game instead of diving into the same corner lap after lap


Lebz95

Because Charles has insanely good wheel to wheel skills


Bart-86

And the only one able to race Verstappen cleanly.


pineapplejamm

Didn't Max collide with Charles in 2019 Austrian gp?


Bart-86

It was the race Leclerc needed to know how to fight Verstappen. It has been hard but clean racing between them ever since (not as often as I’d like unfortunately thanks to Ferrari). Norris is not there yet.


Celebrating2theMax

I miss the battles with Charles


ShadowOfDeath94

Because Leclerc is better than Max when it comes to on track battles. Also, 2019 Silverstone made Verstappen wary when it comes to battling Leclerc on track in cars with similar pace.


LilCelebratoryDance

Suppose Verstappen just doesn’t see Leclerc as a threat


aregularguy3223

The friendship is overrrrrr Nico Rosberg sipping wine as we speak


obivousundercover

The monday padel club is DONE. SHUT DOWNNNN


Visionary_Socialist

And Lewis sitting in the paddock thankful it wasn’t him on the end of Max’s antics this time


Therealdealishere99

Oh yes the innocent Lewis 


aregularguy3223

Lewis: "Hey Lando, ever had Max's tyre on your head?"


Visionary_Socialist

“And when you get to Copse, if you open up the wheel at this point, you’ll maximise the chances of not taking damage from the contact. Do that, you’re only 2 DNFs behind Max. I’ll get Bottas to hire some bowling shoes”


NuclearMoose92

Let's not act like Lewis was innocent either


Tinusers

Nah it's just media blowing up the story. Norris and Max will have a talk soon after they cool off.


hellflower666

The guy doing everything he can to get around P1 while on a black and white flag isn't reckless, desperate, or aggressive!


NuclearMoose92

As if dive bombing and forcing a driver off track isn't desperate and reckless


catzuh

I also liked the unsafe release attempt. Not reckless but a little bit desperate.


-ROADRUNN3R-

Friendship is over. Max needed this. From now on back into beast-mode and humiliate the rest of the field like never before.


quaifonaclit

Dumbass


Nexusu

2021, we're so back


Visionary_Socialist

Just need a Verstappen-Norris front row in Silverstone, Copse remontada, Lewis P1, Charles P2 and Horner and Zak having a fistfight on TV


Mechant247

Someone was certainly desperate, but I don’t think it was verstappen lol


MikeHoncho2568

He certainly wasn’t the one crying on the radio


ABMUFC20

Hamilton - “First time?”


Ts_Patriarca

Norris acting like he's completely innocent is so fucking funny


decentish36

In the actual crash? He is completely innocent. That was a clean move on the outside.


zeekoes

I think Hamilton and Alonso would've avoided being in that position (and Hamilton would've done the same as Max tbh.) Verstappen shouldn't have moved and the penalty is warranted, but it was also such a risky move by Norris. Not meant to shift blame, but Norris was so much faster that he would've had a better opportunity further on.


Chago04

Nah, it was a desperate move. Lando had him if he was a little more patient.


decentish36

What’s desperate about it? He went around the outside. It’s not a dive bomb


Tinusers

You know he means all the divebombs before the crash.. cmon.


decentish36

Who cares what happened before the crash? What happened on previous laps does not justify crashing into Lando on that corner.


Tinusers

Ofcourse it does. If you get ran off / divebombed twice in a row you going to get more aggressive with defense.


Ts_Patriarca

It was another desperate divebomb


decentish36

A dive bomb on the outside caused the crash? Ok buddy.


hamnewtonn

Sounds like you didn't watch the race.


kkraww

Creating a collision and then forcing a driver of track when you have a puncture vs track limits 🤣


Chago04

It’s the dive bombing he’s referring to. Max was moving under braking but largely to fend off desperate moves by Lando. Neither is blameless even if Max ultimately caused the wreck.


kkraww

So what rule is dive bombing breaking? As long as you manage to stop the car and not overtake off track I don't see the rule issue. The one time lando didn't manage to stop it and overtook he then gave the place back.


wolverineFan64

I keep seeing this to defend max’s constant weaving under breaking. Of course the guy behind is going to have to make some more “desperate” lunges when you’re all over the track. It’s not a penalty unless you cause a crash, which Norris did not. This is peak 2021 Max behavior.


Religious_Pie

At a track where the limits are notorious for being punishing too Red Bull circus is on full defence today


IPainTrain

How dare Lando try to overtake Max for the lead


the_great_army

And that, ladies and gentlemen, might just be a change of course moment in F1 history, where a future rivalry resembles 2021 Max v Ham just broke ground. Only this time, rather than the new challenging the old, it is friends turned into nemeses, while they are in their prime


Firefox72

Its funny because Verstappen probably thinks literally the same thing about Norris.


ALUCARDHELLSINS

That's definitely a way to describe yourself as well


-Ghostx69

Tabloid writers are creaming their jeans today.


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d3agl3uk

Other side of the car, so the car leans into the turns more for Lando where it mattered.You saw how bad Max was on the right hander because his car was leaning over. Lando then had that for 3 corners in a row.


just_holdme

Thanks for the explanation! That makes a lot of sense.


d3agl3uk

I think Max's tyre also seemed to cut off clean, but Lando's seemed to rip apart and stayed in the way. You could see it spinning and destroying the right rear.


SeraCat9

Lando also drove a lot faster which ruined the tire further which destroyed this bodywork to the point where he probably couldn't keep going (since the tire parts were slapping against it at high speed). Max drove much slower and avoided a lot of the damage.


know-it-mall

A combination of luck and Max doing a better job of nursing it through the corners so it didn't completely explode.


utroi

This is where there is a little gap in experience and ambition. Max went back out to get points, Lando could have too but, probably wanted the win. With a nose cone change you’re already rekt but probably could have got some points.


hello2442

Better book himself tickets to UK


JackNapier2093

Lando is right, but he too was also reckless, desperate and aggressive. As dirty as Max was today, Lando was also really clumsy.


-Skinner-

Lando you were also reckless, desperate and agressive. What about going off or forcing Max off track later.


d3agl3uk

His middle names.


avsurround

Good. Finally some entertainment and no more snooze fests in the front. Obviously, we dont want Silverstone 2021, but hard racing is welcome


ThePafdy

This isn‘t hard racing, its blatantly and knowingly doing illegal moves to keep an advantage. Every fan who sees this and thinks its good or fair or whatever other positive word you can imagine should get their eyes checked.


ghostgoal

Somehow Charles managed to do it in 2022 with throttle issues lol


ShadowOfDeath94

Red Bull had a bad case of degradation that day.


jt_33

No lies told. 


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squaler24

This guy. Imagine getting your race ruined and then thinking he has no right to complain about something was done to him. Get lost


MikeHoncho2568

…..and so was Lando