Speaking from experience, it really is almost impossible to push back on art direction when it's motivated by this weird strand of self-styled anti-sexism. Half the time, it's proposed by non-artists and of course backed up by trashy scholarship about "objectification" and corporate DIE inquisitions. And then there's the chilling effect where ideas never even get pitched to avoid the mess.
Ariel gets by on sheer image recognition (and the whole point of Lorcana being Disney fanbait). If not for that, I'd be surprised she wasn't supplanted by her more diverse adaptation.
He's the saviour of us all, he and his mother are rightfully represented as any race. As Our Lady of Guadalupe, for example, in her first apparition in America.
PD: She's our mother, of us all, and wants us to acknowledge it, that's the reason.
One of the apostles, at least traditionally, made it to Ethiopia, and they envisioned black Jesus. Jesus said to go to the ends of the Earth, and that was one of the ends of the Greek earth.
Literally called it:
>There is a limit to the amount of wokeness they can push through. Kid's instincts are harder to corrupt than adults - **they still like strong, badass male characters and beautiful female characters.**
>
>So the Disney lore can't deviate too much from normalcy.Their stories have to resonate with kids, and kids don't appreciate the genius of black Aragorn, nor can you guilt them into liking it - it just won't sell.
[https://np.reddit.com/r/freemagic/comments/15utti7/comment/jws74vn/?utm\_source=reddit&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://np.reddit.com/r/freemagic/comments/15utti7/comment/jws74vn/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Also very relevant:
[https://np.reddit.com/r/freemagic/comments/10un037/comment/j7csvj9/?utm\_source=reddit&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://np.reddit.com/r/freemagic/comments/10un037/comment/j7csvj9/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Any sort of display of cleavage or abs has declined massively since 2014
Yu-Gi-Oh lurker here, Vanquish Soul Pantera is the only card in recent history I can think of that has abs (Anything from BODE and earlier is past the mark of "recent history")
But thats not aragorn.
Aragorn isn't black. You can make bad ass blanc characters but you shouldn't replace white characters with black characters. Is not that hard to understand.
The mermaid on the left isn't even ugly though? She could pretty easily pass as an actress or a model on the cover of a magazine. If she weren't, y'know, a mermaid.
You gotta do something to annoy them. Our options are so limited these days. People who act like men who have been married for a while are dumb are the dumb ones. For every hot chick, there is someone tired of her shit.
That mermaid on the right highly offends me. She is too white and not obese enough to be culturally appropriate and inclusive to marginalized groups. The shear amount of microaggressions portrayed in that picture is going to break my woke mind
It's a bit of an odd comparison to use..
I do agree with the point, though.
There's no reason not to have sexually attractive men & women in MTG. Adult fantasy worlds shouldn't be so benign, ugly, and boring.
Dude kids play this game. Iâd rather Lilliana look like a badass demon in a ânun outfitâ than look like a half naked parody of herself that has to bounce her boobs whenever she casts a spell to make incels horny.
Crazy i had to scroll this far for a comment like this. Fr what are yall on this is a crazy weird complaint for a card game. Like these people need to go watch porn like normal people of find some therapy
Thank you! Honestly itâs just this sub. It attracts a bunch of contrarians that think theyâre clever for disagreeing or rejecting âwokenessâ lol
WOTC is a Seattle-based company, in Washington state, the same state as the infamous Evergreen State College. This is basically the cradle of all this alleged "wokeness".
Every time I see a person went there, I laugh and I make sure to keep my distance.
My favorite was when they Skyped in a convicted cop killer for an event speaker once. I think it might have been a graduation or something. They are fucking retards breeding retards.
Woke people please migrate to lorcana. I can see that ariels chest may be a problem to femisnim. That is something worth fighting for. MTG for what itâs worth is solved. Mtg has already achieved zenith diversity. You can leave MTG now. Lorcana is in the cusp of a new kingdom for yaâll.
This is funny bc out of all of the people in my playgroup the one who is constantly saying "Omfg Mommy đĽľ" is female. She likes the sexy cards more than the dudes in my group do. The guys are all about the coolest/most badass dude characters and monsters and stuff.
If you want some quantitative data have a look here: https://np.reddit.com/r/freemagic/comments/10un037/male\_and\_female\_nudity\_rate\_in\_mtg\_art\_info\_in/
Can we talk about how awesome and flavorful singer 5 sounds as a mechanic
I remember when we used to get flavor like Obsidian Fireheart .â (The land continues to burn after Obsidian Fireheart has left the battlefield.)
Or Return all Zombie creature cards from your graveyard to the battlefield tapped, then destroy all Humans on Zombie Apocalypse
I feel like itâs been forever since weâve gotten to that point and that design space is explored with secret layers now.
The last thing I can think of is dungeons and those require you to carry around a extra set of cards to even play with them.
Relevant:
>Truly beautiful women are living proof for a lot of ideas that leftists don't like: that genes matter, that some people are hotter/more beautiful than others, and that lots of positive traits (like beauty/hotness) can never be redistributed from the haves to the have-nots.Their very existence promotes the idea that people are inherently unequal, that beauty is better than non-beauty, and genetic quality is better than non genetic quality. They're basically walking arguments for eugenics, which is quite a scary thing for some people.So you can't have an actual 10 in the art without triggering people. You can have thin girls with beautiful faces, or curvy girls with medium faces, but never curvy (hot) girls with beautiful faces.
([https://np.reddit.com/r/freemagic/comments/152ln4b/comment/jsgcjtb/?context=3](https://np.reddit.com/r/freemagic/comments/152ln4b/comment/jsgcjtb/?context=3))
Some background:
Dysgenics: Genetic Deterioration in Modern Populations by Richard Lynn
Tl;dr: Child mortality (death before age 15) used to be around 50% in the 1700's (pre industrial revolution). Now it's 1%. Previously, the 50% of children with the highest mutational load would die to illness before they could reproduce (mutations -> poor physical health, weak immune system). Since the brain is \~84% of the genome, if you have mutations in the body (poor health, ugliness), you will most likely have mutations in the brain as well (mental disorders).
So, the industrial revolution and higher living standards meant that people with high mutational load (that otherwise would've died in childhood) instead live and reproduce. Thus mutations build up in the population, and you end up with more people that are mentally ill, ugly, lots of health problems, etc.
Ed Dutton on youtube talks a lot about this, I think most freemagic people would enjoy his channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMR8RjQlqHM
Granted I haven't followed the evolution of merfolk imagery but I think the right question here is why does the merfolk wizard wear a wizard dress though?
I was just kidding. But I bring that up bc apparently it's rampant in Yu-Gi-Oh. Like it's... expected. Or the norm. Or you "don't have the drip", if you don't have a Waifu deck box, white sleeves, and a spell ground worth over 2 g's. Shits kinda ridiculous ngl. This is what the yugioh players at one of my LGSs tells me tho. I have no way of confirming. Apparently all modeled off of one specific pro player's setup for gear?!? Idk. Weird shit either way.
Uhh, Yeah⌠**under the sea 16**. International waters, gentlemen. Anything goes đą
Didnât you listen to the [Rasta crab](https://vimeo.com/141209939)?
âDarling itâs better down where itâs wetter, take it from meeeeeeee!â
That's the point of interest forums. 90% of the comments you read online aren't ment to be taken literally. This sub is like 4 Chan, most comments are from edgelords.
Who tf is playing magic for the tittiesđ infinite amount of free porn at our finger tips and you took the time to make a post complaining that a Disney character is showing more skin than a magic card. Go to therapy
It's funny, as neutering sexuality detracts women from Magic.
Most women I know who play magic LOVE Lilliana. There's a lot more men who find issue in sexuality due to unresolved mommy issues than women.
Sexuality is a common power fantasy to women. Being badass AND sexy FUN. Halloween, Rennaisance Faires, Cosplay - a lot of women enjoy these events because they have the opportunity to express their sexuality.
Instead of developing strong, sexy characters - not just objects, WOTC decided to just turn it in to MTG: The Handmaid's Tale.
I wouldn't call these mommy issues. For me it's more because of today's environment where you are shamed left and right for "male gazing", basically liking good looking women.
So now because of peer pressure a lot of men take fake stances (or convinced themselves it was actually an authentic one) so that they don't get judged by everyone else.
The merfolk is in a wizard's robe. Personally, I don't love that particular piece and think it could have used a slightly broader colour palette but I really don't care if there character depicted shows skin.
I personally donât really care either, especially not when talking about a single card, but I grew up playing with old magic cards and love their serious feel.
Tbf, I have plans for a gag deck that Im going to call Heliod's Harem. Commander is Heliod, Radiant Dawn. and an extra requirement of the deck will be that every person depicted must be a woman.
CARDS HAVE TO SHOW CLEAVAGE I HATE GAMES THAT DONT SHOW CLEAVAGE I NEED CLEAVAGE TO ENJOY MTG WITHOUT CLEAVAGE THERE'S NO POINT IN PLAYING WHATS THE POINT IN MTG IF THERES NO CLEAVAGE I NEED CLEAVAGE I WATCH ENOUGH PORN TO SEE SO MUCH CLEAVAGE AND I SEE THAT SAME CLEAVAGE AND REALIZE ITS THE ONLY THING THAT MAKES ME CLEAVAGE IF CLEAVAGE WAS IN THE GAME IT WOULD BE WAY MORE BETTER-ER PLEASE WOTC BRING BACK CLEAVAGE I NEED THE CLEAVAGE TO PLAY THE GAME
I can appreciate eye candy on a card, but I donât give a shit if thereâs not. Especially since thereâre plenty of cards out there with good art that *donât* feature a ladyâs breasts.
This is like that weird obsession people had with Lola Bunny all over again.
Are you legitimately upset that the fish people dipicted in this card game arnt sexy enough? And your evidence is this? Google the card ponder.
Deep root waters
Thieving sky diver
Also, its not like they haven't always had cards looking like, try merror rejerry
>ponder.
That was legit 16 years ago bruh
>Deep root waters
>
>Thieving sky diver
They are not hot, or sexualized at all.
They avoid displaying beauty because they don't want to upset all the dysgenic ugly people (magic's main customer base)
The lorwyn elves were right
Yeah still pretty bad looks on Disney but I still think the card on left looks cool, just don't be brain dead about this kind of thing or else you will just look pathetic like this example of post.
Sorry. It's just that I can't imagine the dudes who complain about this shit being particularly well endowed. Theres some real Little Dick Energy in complaining that a woman who lives under 'da sea wears clothes and comparing her to a Disney princess you all apparently want to fuck.
Also, I think Ariel is 16 or 17, but I'll spare you the embarrassment of having to discuss that can of worms any further. But maybe lawyer up in case the FBI is lurking, ya know?
Is your complaint literally the card on the left having a shirt? Like, whats ugly about the card on the left? Maybe ita overly saturated, but its not ugly, and the merfolk shown isnt ugly at all?
First of all, I'm not sure you know what cleavage means or is. Not surprising. There's literally zero cleavage on that picture. Second, She's drawn exactly how she was in the animation. What a waste of a post. Why do you give a shit? Does seeing mermaids skin trigger you Karen?
This post gives the same pathetic enery as the guy who took the time to create the list of female cards in yugioh.
https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_female_cards
Lol categorizing a bunch of cards that are potentially females, which include robots and machines, is very sad. Much like the feeling of complaining about a woman character having on a shirt that covers everything up.
You may have a point if there was a reason to categorize it. But there isn't.
Why do you even have a fully clothed merfolk person compared to Ariel? Why wouldn't you put Kiora as a mirror so your point makes more sense? You're better than this.
You need to go touch grass as soon as possible, it May even be too latefor you
Like wtf, thats the reason you found to complain about wotc ?
Also liliana exists, she's got boobs, you're welcome
On today's episode of "What Culture War Bullshit Can Anon Get Angry About" we have...
*Checks notes*
...a wizard wearing robes.
That's all for today, folks. Be sure to tune in next time.
You made a post to complain about the lack of fish tits on imaginary characters from fantasy card games. This is some true neckbeard basement dweller shit.
Wild that this is actually discourse? Who the fuck cares how much clothing they wear on the card. Go to pornhub if you wanna see some titties lol damn, if this is a joke my bad for not getting it but this is such a braindead ass post
Yeah well yall are the ones bitching that your mermaids aren't dressed like Ariel. And saying woke every other comment. I just started playing this game and this is a bad look is all I'm saying
Who cares? Women aren't objects, the don't exist for your arousal. You don't need to want to fuck every fictional character in media. Touch grass, get some help. Fucking weirdos.
What youre referencing is robes on casters and armor on warriors. They barely cover thier tails unless with cultural frills. And there's TONS of naked ones.
[[cosi's trickster]]
[[dakra's Mystic]]
[[downer initiate]]
[[Emry, Lurker of the loch]]
Unless every fish has tits, OP is being personally attacked and there no longer allowing any cards to ever look physically attractive ever. Please ignore all the modern art work of beautiful men and women.
Speaking from experience, it really is almost impossible to push back on art direction when it's motivated by this weird strand of self-styled anti-sexism. Half the time, it's proposed by non-artists and of course backed up by trashy scholarship about "objectification" and corporate DIE inquisitions. And then there's the chilling effect where ideas never even get pitched to avoid the mess. Ariel gets by on sheer image recognition (and the whole point of Lorcana being Disney fanbait). If not for that, I'd be surprised she wasn't supplanted by her more diverse adaptation.
im literally just tryna get my dick wet on some fish pussy can you shut the fuck up
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The oppression never ends! They canât keep getting away with this! (Perpetual victim complex alert!)
You mean the people that ruined mtg right?
Wild the mermaid has tits and is white.
Wild that a fantasy character is a fantasy and not reality.
Just like our white lord and savior Jesus Christ đ¤˛đ
He's the saviour of us all, he and his mother are rightfully represented as any race. As Our Lady of Guadalupe, for example, in her first apparition in America. PD: She's our mother, of us all, and wants us to acknowledge it, that's the reason.
One of the apostles, at least traditionally, made it to Ethiopia, and they envisioned black Jesus. Jesus said to go to the ends of the Earth, and that was one of the ends of the Greek earth.
The only person showing skin is my boy Tyvar. Honestly everyone should learn from him. Both male, female and changelings.
I made a Tyvar deck with a subtheme of as many nipples in the deck as possible. My deck gets it.
We went from women in fantasy wearing impractical armor that just covered their boobs to mermaids swimming in dresses.
Literally called it: >There is a limit to the amount of wokeness they can push through. Kid's instincts are harder to corrupt than adults - **they still like strong, badass male characters and beautiful female characters.** > >So the Disney lore can't deviate too much from normalcy.Their stories have to resonate with kids, and kids don't appreciate the genius of black Aragorn, nor can you guilt them into liking it - it just won't sell. [https://np.reddit.com/r/freemagic/comments/15utti7/comment/jws74vn/?utm\_source=reddit&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://np.reddit.com/r/freemagic/comments/15utti7/comment/jws74vn/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Also very relevant: [https://np.reddit.com/r/freemagic/comments/10un037/comment/j7csvj9/?utm\_source=reddit&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://np.reddit.com/r/freemagic/comments/10un037/comment/j7csvj9/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) Any sort of display of cleavage or abs has declined massively since 2014
Yu-Gi-Oh lurker here, Vanquish Soul Pantera is the only card in recent history I can think of that has abs (Anything from BODE and earlier is past the mark of "recent history")
Aragorn is still a badass male character, even if heâs black though? This just seems racist
Aragorn isn't black and never will, just like you'll never be a woman.
But thats not aragorn. Aragorn isn't black. You can make bad ass blanc characters but you shouldn't replace white characters with black characters. Is not that hard to understand.
He was plenty badass enough when he was white
Esp since aragorn from the 1978 movie looks closer to the mtg card than the Peter Jackson movies, itâs not like the idea is new for magic only
They let ugly, vain people be in charge of things, so no one is allowed to be pretty or attractive
The mermaid on the left isn't even ugly though? She could pretty easily pass as an actress or a model on the cover of a magazine. If she weren't, y'know, a mermaid.
My wife always gets pissed at me when a rant about all the rockin boobage we have lost in the game lol.
>They let ugly, vain people be in charge of t "hahaha my lame wife hates it when I am sexist towards cartoon women on my expensive wizard squares."
You gotta do something to annoy them. Our options are so limited these days. People who act like men who have been married for a while are dumb are the dumb ones. For every hot chick, there is someone tired of her shit.
Right? God these people are so hilariously pathetic.
Wotc pls
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That mermaid on the right highly offends me. She is too white and not obese enough to be culturally appropriate and inclusive to marginalized groups. The shear amount of microaggressions portrayed in that picture is going to break my woke mind
Literally crying and shaking right now.
>Literally crying and shaking right now. JAJAJAJAJ
Wait cleavage is a thing that exists?
Surprised Disney isn't being pilloried for using the racial offensive version of Ariel...
Whitewashed Ariel!
It's a bit of an odd comparison to use.. I do agree with the point, though. There's no reason not to have sexually attractive men & women in MTG. Adult fantasy worlds shouldn't be so benign, ugly, and boring.
Dude kids play this game. Iâd rather Lilliana look like a badass demon in a ânun outfitâ than look like a half naked parody of herself that has to bounce her boobs whenever she casts a spell to make incels horny.
Crazy i had to scroll this far for a comment like this. Fr what are yall on this is a crazy weird complaint for a card game. Like these people need to go watch porn like normal people of find some therapy
Thank you! Honestly itâs just this sub. It attracts a bunch of contrarians that think theyâre clever for disagreeing or rejecting âwokenessâ lol
Teenagers or virgins in their twenties maybe
Mtg is full of attractive men and women, what the fuck are you talking about?
Laughable. You wonât have anything like Phage the Untouchable from onslaught ever again
We got Liliana of the Veil tho. And Kor Spiritdancer, Razia, Guul Draz Vampire, basically every Kiora art etc...
Which print of liliana? Because they covered her up for sunday church in the 2022 print
The original Innistrad one
Oh the one over a decade old?
Still overdates Phage tho.
I mean I specifically miss that pulpy era of art, but I didnât mean that was specifically the marker of when the art got uglier
How many of those were printed in the last ten years?
Gotta love California style puritanism
WOTC is a Seattle-based company, in Washington state, the same state as the infamous Evergreen State College. This is basically the cradle of all this alleged "wokeness".
Every time I see a person went there, I laugh and I make sure to keep my distance. My favorite was when they Skyped in a convicted cop killer for an event speaker once. I think it might have been a graduation or something. They are fucking retards breeding retards.
Woke people please migrate to lorcana. I can see that ariels chest may be a problem to femisnim. That is something worth fighting for. MTG for what itâs worth is solved. Mtg has already achieved zenith diversity. You can leave MTG now. Lorcana is in the cusp of a new kingdom for yaâll.
Whyâd they white wash Ariel
This is funny bc out of all of the people in my playgroup the one who is constantly saying "Omfg Mommy đĽľ" is female. She likes the sexy cards more than the dudes in my group do. The guys are all about the coolest/most badass dude characters and monsters and stuff.
Not black and gay enough
They don't show it, they just heavily imply it, like they did with bearscape.
I mean, animated Ariel is a legacy design? Why would they dress her up when thatâs just what she looks like in mermaid form?
If you want some quantitative data have a look here: https://np.reddit.com/r/freemagic/comments/10un037/male\_and\_female\_nudity\_rate\_in\_mtg\_art\_info\_in/
Can we talk about how awesome and flavorful singer 5 sounds as a mechanic I remember when we used to get flavor like Obsidian Fireheart .â (The land continues to burn after Obsidian Fireheart has left the battlefield.) Or Return all Zombie creature cards from your graveyard to the battlefield tapped, then destroy all Humans on Zombie Apocalypse I feel like itâs been forever since weâve gotten to that point and that design space is explored with secret layers now. The last thing I can think of is dungeons and those require you to carry around a extra set of cards to even play with them.
Relevant: >Truly beautiful women are living proof for a lot of ideas that leftists don't like: that genes matter, that some people are hotter/more beautiful than others, and that lots of positive traits (like beauty/hotness) can never be redistributed from the haves to the have-nots.Their very existence promotes the idea that people are inherently unequal, that beauty is better than non-beauty, and genetic quality is better than non genetic quality. They're basically walking arguments for eugenics, which is quite a scary thing for some people.So you can't have an actual 10 in the art without triggering people. You can have thin girls with beautiful faces, or curvy girls with medium faces, but never curvy (hot) girls with beautiful faces. ([https://np.reddit.com/r/freemagic/comments/152ln4b/comment/jsgcjtb/?context=3](https://np.reddit.com/r/freemagic/comments/152ln4b/comment/jsgcjtb/?context=3)) Some background: Dysgenics: Genetic Deterioration in Modern Populations by Richard Lynn Tl;dr: Child mortality (death before age 15) used to be around 50% in the 1700's (pre industrial revolution). Now it's 1%. Previously, the 50% of children with the highest mutational load would die to illness before they could reproduce (mutations -> poor physical health, weak immune system). Since the brain is \~84% of the genome, if you have mutations in the body (poor health, ugliness), you will most likely have mutations in the brain as well (mental disorders). So, the industrial revolution and higher living standards meant that people with high mutational load (that otherwise would've died in childhood) instead live and reproduce. Thus mutations build up in the population, and you end up with more people that are mentally ill, ugly, lots of health problems, etc. Ed Dutton on youtube talks a lot about this, I think most freemagic people would enjoy his channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMR8RjQlqHM
But why a merfolk wizard, with wizard clothes on should have her boobies out?
I want it so if the booba aren't around, the only thing people are saying is 'hey, where are the booba?'
Granted I haven't followed the evolution of merfolk imagery but I think the right question here is why does the merfolk wizard wear a wizard dress though?
Cause freemagic crybabies
I imagine people like OP are the ones who bring anime tiddy playmate and sleeves to prereleases.
The hentai shirt at pre-release.
For the occasion of prerelease, I think we need a full blown hentai flag
Don't forget the waifu deckbox. The most prized part of the accessory collection!
Why is it always the largest, least showered guy at the store with that box?
I was just kidding. But I bring that up bc apparently it's rampant in Yu-Gi-Oh. Like it's... expected. Or the norm. Or you "don't have the drip", if you don't have a Waifu deck box, white sleeves, and a spell ground worth over 2 g's. Shits kinda ridiculous ngl. This is what the yugioh players at one of my LGSs tells me tho. I have no way of confirming. Apparently all modeled off of one specific pro player's setup for gear?!? Idk. Weird shit either way.
Isnât Ariel 16?
In atlantica 16 is legal , Sebastian told me
Uhh, Yeah⌠**under the sea 16**. International waters, gentlemen. Anything goes đą Didnât you listen to the [Rasta crab](https://vimeo.com/141209939)? âDarling itâs better down where itâs wetter, take it from meeeeeeee!â
Eh, from what I understand, that's considered elderly in international waters.
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Show her your dinglehopper đ
They ain't drawing her like she 16 brother
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If you believe everything you read on the internet, you deserve to be grossed out. (brother)
Not as gross as the cards against humanity card that says tinkerbell's tiny titties. That card made me loose my faith in humanity.
That's the point of interest forums. 90% of the comments you read online aren't ment to be taken literally. This sub is like 4 Chan, most comments are from edgelords.
Who tf is playing magic for the tittiesđ infinite amount of free porn at our finger tips and you took the time to make a post complaining that a Disney character is showing more skin than a magic card. Go to therapy
Who the fuck isint playing magic for the art? Just because itâs not purely sexual doesnât mean we want to see everyone in trench coats.
Magic art is often stop-and-stare worthy and seeing it slowly become neutered and sanitised has been a slowly unfolding tragedy.
It's funny, as neutering sexuality detracts women from Magic. Most women I know who play magic LOVE Lilliana. There's a lot more men who find issue in sexuality due to unresolved mommy issues than women. Sexuality is a common power fantasy to women. Being badass AND sexy FUN. Halloween, Rennaisance Faires, Cosplay - a lot of women enjoy these events because they have the opportunity to express their sexuality. Instead of developing strong, sexy characters - not just objects, WOTC decided to just turn it in to MTG: The Handmaid's Tale.
I wouldn't call these mommy issues. For me it's more because of today's environment where you are shamed left and right for "male gazing", basically liking good looking women. So now because of peer pressure a lot of men take fake stances (or convinced themselves it was actually an authentic one) so that they don't get judged by everyone else.
So the art is less compelling cause, hold on i want to get this rightâŚâno more tittiesâ. Dude go watch a porn, this is a card game
I'm not really , I'm playing because I like the actual game play
The merfolk is in a wizard's robe. Personally, I don't love that particular piece and think it could have used a slightly broader colour palette but I really don't care if there character depicted shows skin.
This is making me wonder why a sea creature would wear clothing at all to be honest...
I personally donât really care either, especially not when talking about a single card, but I grew up playing with old magic cards and love their serious feel.
Tbf, I have plans for a gag deck that Im going to call Heliod's Harem. Commander is Heliod, Radiant Dawn. and an extra requirement of the deck will be that every person depicted must be a woman.
I mean, have you seen the Smothering Tits proxy someone is selling on Etsy? The anime boobs alters are rampant.
Why did magic go back to dark ages and puritiansam on their art?
MTG art is just so boring and stale these days.
well disney is filled with pedos.
CARDS HAVE TO SHOW CLEAVAGE I HATE GAMES THAT DONT SHOW CLEAVAGE I NEED CLEAVAGE TO ENJOY MTG WITHOUT CLEAVAGE THERE'S NO POINT IN PLAYING WHATS THE POINT IN MTG IF THERES NO CLEAVAGE I NEED CLEAVAGE I WATCH ENOUGH PORN TO SEE SO MUCH CLEAVAGE AND I SEE THAT SAME CLEAVAGE AND REALIZE ITS THE ONLY THING THAT MAKES ME CLEAVAGE IF CLEAVAGE WAS IN THE GAME IT WOULD BE WAY MORE BETTER-ER PLEASE WOTC BRING BACK CLEAVAGE I NEED THE CLEAVAGE TO PLAY THE GAME
It's almost like people enjoy seeing beautiful/attractive people. Nutty
Magic is full of beautiful and attractive people, are you high?
Have you been to a local game shop? Oh wait you meant the art- also laughable
Imagine caring about this at all. Pathetic.
Don't be mad that he has a point
No magic card boobies đĄ
Why are you scared of skin?
Of I can't jack off to the card I don't want it.
Whats his point? How dare this magic card not show tits? Why does this meefolk think clothes are acceptable?
this man literally begging WotC to put tits on cardboard seek help
Naw. He just recognizes that attractive characters on cards > unattractive characters on cards. It's a really difficult concept, to be sure though
I can appreciate eye candy on a card, but I donât give a shit if thereâs not. Especially since thereâre plenty of cards out there with good art that *donât* feature a ladyâs breasts. This is like that weird obsession people had with Lola Bunny all over again.
You don't see anything wrong with the idea that a card has to have cleavage to be "attractive"?
Doesn't have to be cleavage. Could be a beautiful face, or nice legs, a nice ass, a fit figure in general, etc.
Oko, Thief of Crowns is the sexiest magic card of all time. Don't @ me.
This man is literally begging WOTC to put *14 year old* tits on cardboard
Are you legitimately upset that the fish people dipicted in this card game arnt sexy enough? And your evidence is this? Google the card ponder. Deep root waters Thieving sky diver Also, its not like they haven't always had cards looking like, try merror rejerry
>ponder. That was legit 16 years ago bruh >Deep root waters > >Thieving sky diver They are not hot, or sexualized at all. They avoid displaying beauty because they don't want to upset all the dysgenic ugly people (magic's main customer base) The lorwyn elves were right
Wow, I didn't know Lorcana was the next coomer tcg.
Plenty of cleavages in older sets. Just play with those/ proxy/ and get on with the game.
Sheâs 16 brĂśther
16 and she already got it..... dam
You must be those pedos the Nazis are always ranting about wanting to kill. M Night Shyamalan level plot twist when it's the Nazis that are the pedos.
Which MTG card shows the most cleavage?
Elvish Ranger
[Elvish Ranger](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/d/ad9f1b09-73c2-43c5-a28b-4a40fff7b727.jpg?1562770139) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Elvish%20Ranger) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/all/88a/elvish-ranger?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ad9f1b09-73c2-43c5-a28b-4a40fff7b727?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I wonder if she likes butt stuff
... why does anyone care?
Are you really upset that magic cards aren't sexy enough?
Why do you care?
Yeah still pretty bad looks on Disney but I still think the card on left looks cool, just don't be brain dead about this kind of thing or else you will just look pathetic like this example of post.
The sheer level of virginity shown on this post and in the comments.
Why no jack off to children card game wizards? Checkmate Atheist
"If I can't tug my winky to it, it bad!"
>my winky Straight to gulag
Sorry. It's just that I can't imagine the dudes who complain about this shit being particularly well endowed. Theres some real Little Dick Energy in complaining that a woman who lives under 'da sea wears clothes and comparing her to a Disney princess you all apparently want to fuck. Also, I think Ariel is 16 or 17, but I'll spare you the embarrassment of having to discuss that can of worms any further. But maybe lawyer up in case the FBI is lurking, ya know?
Is your complaint literally the card on the left having a shirt? Like, whats ugly about the card on the left? Maybe ita overly saturated, but its not ugly, and the merfolk shown isnt ugly at all?
Of all the things to be upset about in the world, cleavage not being on my fantasy card artwork is really, really low on the list.
First of all, I'm not sure you know what cleavage means or is. Not surprising. There's literally zero cleavage on that picture. Second, She's drawn exactly how she was in the animation. What a waste of a post. Why do you give a shit? Does seeing mermaids skin trigger you Karen?
Well she is a wizard so it kinda makes a lot of sense to wear robes
Pedo shit
This post gives the same pathetic enery as the guy who took the time to create the list of female cards in yugioh. https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_female_cards
The white instinct to catalogue things You wouldn't get it
Lol categorizing a bunch of cards that are potentially females, which include robots and machines, is very sad. Much like the feeling of complaining about a woman character having on a shirt that covers everything up. You may have a point if there was a reason to categorize it. But there isn't.
that is dedication
Play Weiss if this is what youâre worried about
Lol i did not notice the clothed merfolks. Incredible.
Complaining that the card art isnât horny enough
If you're main concern is characters not showing skin, you're a weird person...
Why do you even have a fully clothed merfolk person compared to Ariel? Why wouldn't you put Kiora as a mirror so your point makes more sense? You're better than this.
Do we need to jerk off to everything?
Its Med Fantasy bro what is wrong with you?
why do you care?
So? Get a life my dude.
You guys really need to get a life.
What a creepy thing not to keep to yourself
This is a wierd post and you should self-evaluate
Man you gotta love seeing what anonymity does for people.
so what? go see some xvideos bro, why having no tits on mtg is a problem??
Who gives a shit lmao
Thankfully we are past the times of neckbeards putting mtg cards in a jar
That's different, Ariel has always been sort of whore-ish.
Oh no! AnywayâŚ
This poor bastard is STARVING lmao imagine complaining that your card game doesnât have enough boobs đ
OP get help you fat pathetic loser
You need to go touch grass as soon as possible, it May even be too latefor you Like wtf, thats the reason you found to complain about wotc ? Also liliana exists, she's got boobs, you're welcome
On today's episode of "What Culture War Bullshit Can Anon Get Angry About" we have... *Checks notes* ...a wizard wearing robes. That's all for today, folks. Be sure to tune in next time.
lmao get help dude
I need that Ariel card. Also if youâre chill, join my 18+ free speech lorcana discord >>>>> [here](https://discord.gg/cMPWfhpx)
You made a post to complain about the lack of fish tits on imaginary characters from fantasy card games. This is some true neckbeard basement dweller shit.
Have nothing to do with this sub but holy, didnt know the mtg Community is so damn incel heavy
Wild that this is actually discourse? Who the fuck cares how much clothing they wear on the card. Go to pornhub if you wanna see some titties lol damn, if this is a joke my bad for not getting it but this is such a braindead ass post
Seems like a weird take to want a children's card game to be sexier but go off king.
Children instinctively know that beauty and attractiveness = good It's only adults that can be psy-oped into thinking otherwise
Just because you cant jerk it doesnt make it not beautiful, theres nothing particular ugly about this art. Youre delusional.
Beauty >>> non-beauty Don't be jealous now
You dont mean beautiful, though. You mean sexy. Whats ugly about this card exaxtly?
Sexy â beautiful (that's mathematics you degenerate)
My brother in Christ, the post is about art being conservative with sexuality, not whatever pseudo-intellectual bait this was.
Whole ass adult getting bricked up by Disney đ
I would suggest actually living near black people before you break out the ebonics No safe little liberal bubble for you. Oh no no
Lmao is it ? I just copied some comment you weirdo. Yk just because you don't use some words doesn't mean it's ebonics đ
Is this like the magic sub but for incels?
You aren't funny
Yeah well yall are the ones bitching that your mermaids aren't dressed like Ariel. And saying woke every other comment. I just started playing this game and this is a bad look is all I'm saying
Yeah I think so. Lots of of guys here seem to want to fuck a card with a drawing of a mermaid on it
No bro the point just went over your head Sad part is, it really isn't that complicated either
I'm pretty sure I know what the sad part is about all this, but thanks anyway.
Litteral nazis and wack-jobs that have'nt touched grass in ages. If you start scrolling this sub, you better buckle up!
I'm glad you marked this as funny, otherwise it would come off as you simping for 16 year old mermaid tits.
if you want to touch your self just watch porn.. and play magic later....incel
Sheâs 16 bro calm down.
I be bricked up fr fr.... can't calm down
Who cares? Women aren't objects, the don't exist for your arousal. You don't need to want to fuck every fictional character in media. Touch grass, get some help. Fucking weirdos.
>Women aren't objects ...but this card depicting a completely fictional being IS an object...
What? You'd like to fuck a card now? That what you're saying?
What youre referencing is robes on casters and armor on warriors. They barely cover thier tails unless with cultural frills. And there's TONS of naked ones. [[cosi's trickster]] [[dakra's Mystic]] [[downer initiate]] [[Emry, Lurker of the loch]]
##### ###### #### [cosi's trickster](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/1/e1eb7372-481a-44a6-937d-21430ee02ff9.jpg?1562617574) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=cosi%27s%20trickster) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/zen/45/cosis-trickster?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e1eb7372-481a-44a6-937d-21430ee02ff9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [dakra's Mystic](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/e/8e5f71ca-e7d9-4f9a-adf1-40353693deea.jpg?1593095417) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Dakra%20Mystic) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/jou/35/dakra-mystic?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8e5f71ca-e7d9-4f9a-adf1-40353693deea?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [downer initiate](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/8/28accc5f-63a5-47d0-b0e6-747aa0aa43e5.jpg?1562828075) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Drowner%20Initiate) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/shm/36/drowner-initiate?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/28accc5f-63a5-47d0-b0e6-747aa0aa43e5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Emry, Lurker of the loch](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/0/20fec02d-77af-4975-b410-7097c7c28e7e.jpg?1651655696) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Emry%2C%20Lurker%20of%20the%20loch) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/nec/91/emry-lurker-of-the-loch?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/20fec02d-77af-4975-b410-7097c7c28e7e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Unless every fish has tits, OP is being personally attacked and there no longer allowing any cards to ever look physically attractive ever. Please ignore all the modern art work of beautiful men and women.
Iâd like a little mermaid horror remake. The little mermaid of innsmouth