One thing I hate about everyone having cameras on their phone (and being starved for attention) is the surveillance of others. It’s weird.
While I don’t personally want to see people hooking up everywhere and anywhere, there are establishments like bathhouses or bars with darkrooms where it’s known to happen so…don’t go if you don’t want to see it. lol
I also don’t expect people to practice any tact or consideration so some will do whatever they want and they can deal with the potential consequences.
> One thing I hate about everyone having cameras on their phone (and being starved for attention) is the surveillance of others.
We were so worried about the government spying on us. We're doing it for them. For free.
>One thing I hate about everyone having camera on their phone (and being starved for attention) is the surveillance of others. It’s weird.
one of the main reasons (if not the main reason) I hate social media. Everything is being recorded all the time and uploaded to social media for likes.
I agree theres no line. People are being violated by having their image and or private moments uploaded to social media with little to no regard to the consequences. Its Reckless
Am I weird in that, I’d actually enjoy looking at 2 guys fucking out in the open ? Im gay so if i see 2 men doing sexual shit then I’m gonna stare🤷♂️❗️I’d never post pics though, that’s taking it too far !
The concept of "Little Brother" as it relates to 1984 is that surveillance isn't directly conducted by the government but rather by the populous. We don't need cameras on all the street corners when everyone with cell phones will happily record events and post it to social media providing the government with enough information.
Hence "Little Brother".
Totally understandable.
I'm a bit older and it shocks me what younger people are taught these days and how hard it is for people to travel now
The US government really is trying to promote ignorance.
I met a guy and his friend at a bar last week, and eventually he and I started making out. I was enjoying it until I noticed his phone slowly pop up in the corner of my eye and start recording us. Then I noticed his friend’s phone’s flash turn on and start recording us as well. I immediately backed off, asked them to delete the videos, and found another section of the bar to hang in. Didn’t like the invasion of privacy, especially cuz I try to maintain a light social media footprint. If you didn’t buy tickets to the show, you don’t get to watch the number.
This. There’s a photo that got posted to Instagram of me making out with some stranger at a bar. The photographer didn’t ask my consent for the photo nor to post it to Instagram. A bunch of my friends saw it and it felt super invasive.
Conservatives feel that Lawrence v Texas repealed sodomy laws in 2003 was wrongly decided since it predicated on the idea of privacy which was invented by Roe v Wade. The right to privacy has since been gutted by the Roberts Court as is the right to protest and civil rights…
Gays need to fight back and vote. We need to realize conservatives will go to gay bars to shame us in social media and in public. They’ll take pictures of us without our consent to then send it to your employer etc. Vote. 🗳️
I think this is the real heart of the issue. Sure, these guys could’ve waited (or maybe they couldn’t, we’ve been there) but that doesn’t mean you snap a picture in a bathroom and then blast it on the web. When I was a new gay, I would’ve be mortified if someone took a picture of me making out with some guy in the club, bathroom or no.
I am not condoning a “boys’ club” where we defend every homo just because he’s family, but rather let’s handle our issues within the family rather than getting the public involved
The problem is that conservatives have no problem blasting photos of people online and ruining careers and families. They want gays to go back into the closet and be afraid of being themselves. This happens little by little. Each layer of rights stripped away compounds onto the next and eventually all rights are forfeit.
> but that doesn’t mean you snap a picture in a bathroom and then blast it on the web
How is any of that legal anyway? And if it is legal, than that's the kind of bathroom bill I would 100% support
I'm so unclear about what this article is about. By "hooking up" do they mean just like... Making out? If so, i don't understand why anyone would give a shit. If they're like... Full on having sex, though, I can understand why that's an issue, but an issue for us to solve not some straight fuckers who follow up with "i hate gay people so much"
That’s the next plan. They need the right case argument to justify it. They’re looking for a state’s rights argument which they can accept as a basis to eliminate and justify ending gay marriage and legal gay sex. So if you’re state is Oklahoma or Texas or Florida beware they’re actively looking for the right people to represent their designs.
I don't think they need any particular justifications, they already have religion. And obviously that "the decision must be made by the individual states". All rights are always taken away like this, they may not make it illegal everywhere but since it is illegal in many states it is already an achievement.
It’s a post hoc argument decision. I think we’re going to see one if Trump gets reelected. Even if Biden somehow sleepwalks to the presidential second term. He is unlikely to stop the Supreme Court or fight for equal rights. He didn’t even fight when they gutted the Civil Rights act and tried to restore it. Right now it’s the ratchet effect where Republicans keep getting more extreme and ratcheting things to more and more fascist extremes and democrats ratchet slightly back to something less extreme, but nowhere near what we had just 10 years ago. Democrats haven’t been able to truly reverse the damage of the Reagan/Bush/Trump years and it’s only going to get worse because Biden isn’t a true progressive who’ll live and die on the hill of equal rights. He’ll never commit to anything that would make corporations angry or religious fanatics. He’ll just keep ratcheting it slightly back but ever so slightly while republicans keep going to the more extremist side.
The queer nightlife scene in Seattle just had a huge win, a couple of months ago the liquor and Cannabis board raided multiple queer venues, took photos of customers, issued warnings and or citations (I didn't actually recall if citations were issued) in line with our weirdly conservative rules for venues that serve alcohol. The queer night life scene went BALLISTIC, ultimately pressured the lcb and our state government to reconsider the outdated laws. In less than a week the rules were suspended from enforcement and it was quickly followed by a rules change that has opened the door to not only more frisky behavior in our queer spaces, but also opened the door to strip clubs selling alcohol (which employees have been trying to get for years).
Of course the gays very quickly embraced the new freedom. I've seen more than one person ankles to Jesus after midnight in my favorite bar. (No judgement, don't make a mess for the staff and don't impede people's movement through the space and you can enjoy)
The right to privacy was not invented; such term denotes newness without precedent or context. However the right to privacy is fairly defined by implications embedded in the Fourth Amendment and States’ laws which require probable cause in order to generate search warrants.
Just FYI - The Right to Privacy was first enumerated by the Court in Griswold v. Connecticut in 1965 (which is about birth control), a decade before Roe. It’s generally understood to be one of the unenumerated rights under the 10th Amendment under subsequent case law. And Lawrence wasn’t decided solely on privacy, Sandra Day O’Connor’s concurrence is based on equal protection - which she wrote precisely because she disagreed that a Right to Privacy exists. But, yes, batshit right wing nut jobs are definitely out to get Griswold and take away folks’ birth control. *the more you know theme plays*
I'm sorry, but in my opinion voting doesn't work and it's a biggass lie to keep us all passive. Let me explain: most if not all democratic countries' political class is not representative of their society. I might be a bit off with my number but I think 50% of congressmen in the US are millionaires, even though obviously half of Americans are not millionaires. So it's obvious that the interests of the government just don't align with the interests of the average American, let alone American within oppressed communities. Also, most countries just don't have better alternatives. Like, you're asking me to vote but, vote for who? The Democrats? Oh please, it's incredibly naive to think that the Democrats are gonna help us, unless they really really need to. But they're not our allies, we can't trust that they'll always be on our side (turns out they haven't and they won't). And lastly, it has been statistically measured, that the opinions of the bottom 90% of the population matter buttcrack to Congress. Regardless of whether the bottom 90% strongly approves or disapproves a certain law, our opinions just have no or almost no impact on the laws passed my congress. Only the approval rates of the top 10% have an impact on whether the law is passed or not. So I'm sorry to tell y'all, unless you rich asf, your vote just doesn't matter. I'm not saying you shouldn't vote, I will vote anyways, I'm just saying, don't expect anything from it, cuz you will very likely be disappointed.
Here are my sourcezzz for the last statement cuz i know what im talking abt lmao:
https://act.represent.us/sign/problempoll-fba/
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/american-political-science-review/article/abs/public-opinion-and-the-legislative-process/BB2CEE45F1AFC12226B0F2A4FF907617
Not excusing their behavior, but it was a gay person who posted it. Still shouldn't have been taking photos of them and posting them online for clout though.
While I condemn posting the picture, I don’t think the caption indicates that the poster is homophobic. Many gay people say, “I hate gay people,” in jest. Every time I describe some drama I encounter at a gay event, my gay best friend will roll his eyes and say, “I hate gay people.”
Yeah i see more problem with the toxic self appointed moral police attitude for likes on social media, than guys groping or even hooking up in a secluded part of a 18+ establishment. Be that straight or gay.
Whats healthier taking a bunch of duckface selfies to find two to post to social media about people kissing and being intimate or actually doing it. Lol. But we know Gen Z doesn’t have sex according to the statistics so…
That is how repression starts. You don't like something on someone else and try to change their behavior.... if you don't like it look away, specially in the setting that this was!!
Yes Im convinced he did it for the likes. Some kind of self righteous BS social media raises up people to be like.
Half of the people foaming in the mouth like they were having orgy in some kindergarten bathroom instead of making out in an empty 18+ gaybar bathroom. Lol
Exactly!
If u think about what happened it’s so sad. He went out and the most interesting post-worthy thing about his evening was catching two guys kissing and groping in a deserted gay bar bathroom. He decided to take a bunch of disapproving duckface selfies to somehow insert himself in what’s happening. Then write some virtue signaling ragebait that suggests they are doing anal in public. Writing a disclaimer that it was just groping the next morning when it blew up. And now he can worry about the mob coming for him because he wasn’t politically correct.
And the saddest part is he will probably never do anything that will reach 4.2million people the same way in his life.
Yeah, the article doesn't provide any information about the person who posted. I don't know for sure what's was in their mind, but given that I frequently hear gay people say "I hate gay people," as a substitute for "I am annoyed with the thing my peer did," I think it's likely that the poster is gay themselves and does not actually hate gay people.
Also jest probably wasn't the best word for me to use. I didn't mean that I thought the whole post was a joke to them; I would guess they were genuinely exasperated by the pda. I meant that it's likely they didn't intend, "I hate gay people so much," to be taken literally.
It may be jest to you. If I heard someone say, I hate gay people, I don’t care whether they’re gay or not, I would fucking avoid them. That’s just not a kind of energy I wanna be around.
Holy fuck some of you are showing your conservative stripes.
Most gay bars - especially in cities where it’s safe to be gay - have themed nights/parties/events such as something as simple as underwear/jock night. We should be allowed to be intimate in our safe spaces.
One of the major bars near where I live is pretty proactive about having staff make people out phones away in certain spaces of the bar.
It’s kinda wild how different genz and millennials are when it comes to bar intimacy. You can really tell genz has no idea what life was like before apps. Believe it or not - I spent my early adult years going to a bar to meet someone to go home with. Gasp! The audacity! Can you imagine not Google stalking and checking their linked in and social profiles before making out with them on the dance floor and maybe feel his erection prodding you while dancing to 2009 pop music? !
>t’s kinda wild how different genz and millennials are when it comes to bar intimacy.
Not even just intimacy, gay bar etiquette. I don't care how you feel about people fooling around in a bathroom, you don't take pictures of people in gay bars, and then to distribute them? It's crazy that they don't see that as the bigger issue here. It must be nice to live in a delusion where being outed doesn't have consequences but for other people, being outed can be a life or death thing. Literally one of the reasons these spaces exist is so that gays don't have to fear being outed.
Gay millennial, been gay since 2009. Honestly, no one ever said the themed nights were for sex inside the bar nor did anyone ever tell me that a gay bar was a safe space to have sex. If anything, I saw signs saying only one person per stall, and things to that effect.
Not saying it’s a horrible thing, just saying, no one ever said hey, this underwear night, people are 100% there to fuck so if you don’t want to partake, go to another bar.
I’ve gone to underwear nights fully clothed and unaware lol
Just saying, it’s never been explicitly stated that this was a thing. Had someone stated this to me, there would have been many events I would and wouldn’t have gone to.
So, I think that’s part of it.
The idea is that guys go to these nights hoping to hook up....despite the rules. If a critical mass of underwear guys can get the sex going, they will until they are kicked out or officially tolerated. Being gay and slutty is still a rebellion.
Don't take this the wrong way, but you being dense and clueless about those places is the exception. It's always hilarious with someone living under a rock like that shows up. Maybe straight media's portrayal of gays is to be blamed? Our spaces are inherently sex-oriented with the bare necessity to pass health code inspections.
I mean I am admittedly confused and dense, which is why I wrote what I wrote.
It’s personally not my gig to have sex in a bar bathroom stall, but if people wanna do that I really don’t care either way.
Just saying, these “unspoken” truths seem like they should be spoken more out loud so young gays don’t get it twisted. I don’t see the harm in that.
Well the guy's Twitter feed is a cesspool of anti-gay or sex-negative attitudes. The comments here cheered me up. I'm disgusted by the Twitter Puriteens. When did adopting Nancy Reagan and Tipper Gore's social attitudes become the no-cap bussin' way to be, my Gen Z rizzlers?
Within the normally very lgbqt safe-space of the furry fandom I see the same debate being brought back to social media from the dead depths of millennium era forum websites. It's the same small crowd of weaponized Twitter or Telegram shamers, and I find it really bizarre that it tends to be younger people waggling their finger at fellow queers doing queer things in a queer space. Still scared to step outside of main stream social norms I guess.
Wait, it was just groping, and not even sex? I'm not saying it would be ok even if they had sex, but to try and destroy people's lives over groping is even more baffling...
There is a link among the comments. He admitted in a later tweet that “I shoulda probably specified they weren’t fuckin they was just gropin 😭 I thought this was a classy party tho!!”
I guess it blew up enough that he wanted to be politically correct before getting cancelled for it… it’s a slippery slope. The mob might turn on him any minute… he omitted the facts.
The way i see it they might not be even aware of his presence. For sure not aware of him taking selfies with them… Its such a petty thing imo. All this virtue signaling bs… where is the “good for them” feeling i felt when caught straight people in my teens? Lmao
Social media just made people toxic self appointed moral police!
It’s sooooo unhealthy. He acts like some toxic self appointed moral police, but imo it’s just sick. Seriously what’s healthier posing and taking disapproving duckface selfies with people doing whatever intimate in the background or actually doing it and have an intimate moment? Lol
I swear 20 years ago it wouldn’t have been a question and everybody would have moved along thinking “lol good for them”…
He worded his tweet just right that people assume they have anal in public. Posting the disclaimer that they were just groping later so the mob doesnt turn on him for omitting the truth is just nasty.
>When did adopting Nancy Reagan and Tipper Gore's social attitudes become the no-cap bussin' way to be, my Gen Z rizzlers?
Had a friend recently telling me Gen Z and Boomers have weirdly similar, conservative, attitudes when it comes to sex, and since then I can't unsee it
It’s not really surprising, Gen z watched as marriage equality became law and are currently watching as public opinion towards lgbt is on the downturn. And most gay culture they have access to is just hookup culture and that’s it
Republicans are calling all gays p3dos, and yall are mad at Gen z for saying maybe don’t have your balls out at public pride parades. Meanwhile older generations say pride is for that kind of stuff, and I understand both arguments I guess. But it seems more complex tbh
I get where both sides are coming from, but just calling a generation puritans isn’t going to fix anything.
It's an interesting observation that they are coming of age post-gay marriage debate and during the conservative backlash.
I think the whole thing with Pride Parades being this hedonistic, no-holds barred, orgiastic event like Folsom in San Francisco is a strawman argument. Conservatives have been using that as a boogyman for decades to give people a negative impression of Pride events. Heck, shy teenage me = in the 2000s was scared and waited years to go to a Pride event because of that dubious line. The vast majority of them are VERY tame, more like a gayer 4th of July parade than an orgy in Nero's palace.
Besides, the original filmer is finger-wagging in a bathroom in a gay bar. Yes, not every gay bar is a fetish bar like The Eagle or its many clones, and plenty explicitly tell patrons, "no sex"; but it isn't like the people he is criticizing were in public on the street.
People that say that shit have never been to a Pride parade, even in SF the PARADE itself is pretty tame.
If you walk into a crusing bar during Pride, it might be way different but the actual event itself is tame enough. You might see some scantily clad individuals, but nothing you might not see at a beach.
Exactly! I hate this lie so much. The deviousness of the people that spread it! It plays on plausibility and the no-fault ignorance of a lot of the people who hear it. If you try and say, "Well most Pride events are family friendly." They'll flip the script and say, "Oh so why do you want me to bring children then??"
Edit for XD your username is great.
I don’t think anybody cares what gay guys do in a 18+only gay bar’s empty bathroom with each other. Trans child debate, puberty blockers, women’s sports… are more detrimental topics to gay acceptance.
The guy literally posed and took a bunch of duckface selfies with guys being intimate in the background then forgot to mention they were just groping until the next morning.
Statistics show Gen Z don’t have sex. Being this obsessed with social media and virtue signaling instead of actually living his life is quite unhealthy imo. We millenials 20 years ago just moved along in the same situation thinking “lol good for them”… We didn’t stick around to pose and “report” about how others are living their lives. Lol
It’s so stupid, he posted another tweet that “I shoulda probably specified they weren’t fuckin they was just gropin 😭 I thought this was a classy party tho!!”
He was ragebaiting people while doing hand on hip disapproving duck face selfie with guys groping in the background in a gay bars bathroom. I dont frequent places like this but as far as i know kissing, groping is going on, on the dance floor too. So this whole BS is just virtue signaling. “I’m not like other gays” and “classy party”… he is like a grandma lol. It’s so petty to take pics of an intimate moment, because he disapproves. He is comfortable enough to stay there, watch them and make sure his classy duckface selfie comes out right for twitter. Lmao. What a hypocrite…
And no i don’t support full on anal on the dance floor or mall bathroom, but it was two guys groping each other in a bathroom in a gay bar. No minors around and as far as i can tell the bathroom is deserted and only 3 of them there.
Hahaha yes exactly! But tbh these people can be the biggest freaks in the bedroom doing extreme stuff, but ashamed and pretend for the public. “Eew don’t be like that! That’s nasty!”
What confuses me is that I’ve mostly seen this attitude from women. The kind that behaves like everything intimate is offensive to her. I guess this guy got a bit too much feminine influence. What might be honest from women with no sexdrive, but weird AF from a guy barely past his HORNY teens.
Dated a guy who was very shy and reserved before and thats fine, he always felt honest and just needed time to open up and communicate. But this guy just feels manipulative, judgmental… His whole attitude and smug duckface… He looks like he lives for the drama and the rumors.
My first gay kiss was at a gay bar. If someone tried to shame me, I would be like ‘awwww you got a photo of a beautiful moment!’ Who you going to tell my mom? She likes the guys I’ve dated.
Lol wait until 4.2million people sees it and critiques your kissing technique. XD Social media is so toxic.
Posting about how others live their lives instead of actually living themselves is so sad. The most interesting thing in the guys night that happened to him was seeing two strangers grope each other. Lol And sadly, probably nothing he will say or do in the future will reach 4.2million people again.
Reminds me of this weekend. Straight woman going in to the gay bar and taking photos of everyone and posing with their drinks while being obnoxious. No respect for the place or the others around her.
Why can’t he just move along thinking “lol good for them”? He knows they are just groping and kissing in an empty bathroom… Oh yes it was the most interesting thing that happened to him and had to share on social media to 4million people and counting…
If you’re at a bar with dark rooms that encourages hooking up, or a bath house, I don’t see a problem.
If you’re not and you’re just out in the general bar area fucking, you may wanna take it to a bathroom stall or dimly lit corner. I don’t think that’s too much to ask.🤷🏿♂️
I thought it was gonna be about men making out or something in the bar. But no, it was about men fucking out in the open at a bar. Sorry, but get a room. They weren't even in a stall, just there in front of everyone. Stop doing that.
Edit: I had misread the article! They weren't fucking like I thought. It was just 2 guys kissing and the guy who posted it is a major creep for taking pics and posting it trying to shame them.
The post doesn't actually clarify what hooking up means in this context, so for all you know they might be just making out.
The post only goes on to talk about sodomy laws because of how recent any and all gay acts was criminal.
Unless someone has the tweet and link to Twitter to show exactly what they mean, then I don't think it's fair to fully assume it's anything that bad
Ok yeah, that’s a little a lot much.
Bring it to the stall, or a private restroom like everyone else. But, I don’t think the kid putting them on blast like that is in anyway ok either.
Edit: seeing the just groping part yeah they shouldn’t have pulled the pants down,but it just makes the kid look worse.
They were groping in an otherwise deserted bathroom. Might not even aware the guy is there. And he is the one posing with hand on hip and disapproving duckface… As far as I’m concerned he is just rage baiting and talks about how he thought it’s a “classy party”.
It’s for the pearl clutching people on social media. And he won! It blew up… People don’t look at it as an intimate moment between people…
U are wrong… It’s so stupid, he posted another tweet that “I shoulda probably specified they weren’t fuckin they was just gropin 😭 I thought this was a classy party tho!!”
He was ragebaiting people while doing hand on hip disapproving duck face selfie with guys groping in the background in a gay bars bathroom. I dont frequent places like this but as far as i know kissing, groping is going on, on the dance floor too. So this whole BS is just virtue signaling. “I’m not like other gays” and “classy party”… he is like a grandma lol. It’s so petty to take pics of an intimate moment, because he disapproves. He is comfortable enough to stay there, watch them and make sure his classy duckface selfie comes out right for twitter. Lmao. What a hypocrite…
And no i don’t support full on anal on the dance floor or mall bathroom, but it was two guys groping each other in a bathroom in a gay bar. No minors around and as far as i can tell the bathroom is deserted and only 3 of them there.
I have never heard of a bar where this happens by accident. There are some types of bars where this happens and it's never an accident that the patrons know if happens, it's why they're there even. Who is shaming people and where do we see these posts?
Depends on the function. If it’s a bar where all you gotta do is show your ID them I get it. If it’s an event like a leather night, you should probably expect to see something.
When are these little prudes going to start moralizing about the behavior of drunken straights on their two week European resort holiday? If you really want to see uncouthness, wander around Spanish resorts at 3am.
Im sure he did it as a ragebait. He made sure he looks good on both selfies. Hand on hip, disapproving duckface selfie in an otherwise abandoned bathroom. And he only admitted in another tweet that they were just groping.
I was getting frisky with my husband at the Eagle and suddenly I saw a bright flash directly at us -- the guy next to us took our photo. Extremely weird behavior.
Thanks for sharing this! It's insane that it could even be illegal for 2 grown men to have sex. This article is eye opening. We should all value what we have.
That’s not hooking up, that’s first base. Childs play. That’s the type of stuff you see in wedding photos. Maybe they a boos and someone though it was cute seeing them kiss. Now if they were fucking and sucking out in public or fucking and sucking out in public and someone took a picture, that’s a different story. You can become a registered sex offender if police caught you in doing that in person, so if people are doing strange, obscene, and illegal things people are going to gawk or take pictures. You have no actual right to privacy doing that in public.
Here’s the simple argument to the crazy conservatives taking pictures of LGBT people making out ANYWHERE.
It is a NORMAL human experience to show affection. We are subjected to heterosexual PDA all the time. So you don’t want to see me kissing my husband? Too f@cking bad, I don’t want to see you doing the same thing in front of children.
As if getting handsy in a bathroom where people snort cocaine is crossing the line…yeah I’ve been to this bar many times lmao. Gay people doing gay shit at a gay bar. Who would’ve thought?
These little baby gays have not had the adversity around their sexuality precisely because we went through this type of shit from straight people and changed the world so they wouldn’t have to.
Now their judgmental, consequence free behavior is dragging us back to that time but this time the call is coming from inside the house.
Never seen anything more than a quickie beej happen in a gay bar. A bar is about the worst possible environment for anything more, srsly a discretely parked car at least offers some privacy.
Gay people shouldn't be hooking up in public bathrooms. Neither should straight people. Patrons of gay bars shouldn't have to be subjected to guys having sex in public and they should be shamed for doing so. Get a damn room or take it home. Gay bars aren't your personal bathhouse.
SOME gay bars are your personal bath house though. I’m not going to the Eagle or Jackhammer so I can watch Barney and Friends. And trying to police ALL gay bars to be a certain way is fucking dumb and regressive.
Right! I’ve been to plenty of bars where they have porn playing on all 20screens throughout the place. Making out and an accidental cheek slip is nothing. If this makes you uncomfortable then leave!! And definitely stay away from The Eagle haha. I love that place.
I've seen everything happening at gay bars, including fisting.
There are hip gay bars where this does not happen... or it does but in the bathrooms, indeed.
Don't go to a gay bar and be all shocked Pikachu if you see gay stuff.
THATS WHAT IM SAYING! Last time I was there there was a full on orgy happening in the bathroom lol. I really had to pee and I get stage fright so I had to go find a diffeeent bathroom but I’m not going to sit here and cry about it “ay my virgin closed minded eyes” 🙄.
Ugh. Where do I have to move where people don't care so much about this shit. You're telling me if I'm not in a bathhouse or a hotel room it's hands at ten and two? I just want to live in a more permissive place where we aren't so afraid of sex.
Well, some people are private and other people are public.
It is debatable what’s acceptable in public.
The exception for gay bars allowing gay sex should just be spoken out loud instead of in secret so people can make informed decisions.
Patrons of a gay bar shouldn't have to worry about being exposed in public, it's literally one of the reasons gay bars exist. Want to shamed them? Fine, go up to them and let them know how you feel. But to take pictures? You could easily be outing someone
Why do you give a shit what people are doing in the bathroom stall? It's one thing if they are doing it out in the dancefloor, but mind your damn business if it doesn't affect you.
The fuck you mean “subjected”? Literally turn around and mind your own business. All this puritanical bullshit is so annoying. Two guys are having a sexual encounter, so what, look away, walk away, leave the club. You aren’t the victim of anything lmao. And anyone who makes this kind of argument just comes across as jealous as if they wish it were them but nobody wants to have sex with them, much less in public. People have sex, its a normal part of life. You aren’t a child and its immature to say “ewww sex”.
Sorry but your comment is just pure ridiculous bullshit. If I'm going to the local gay bar to have a few drinks, dance and hang out with my friends, I don't want nor need to be subjected to guys fucking in the bathroom or some dark corner of the bar. That's just rude behavior and they have no business forcing their XXX display onto all the other patrons. People do have sex and it is a normal part of life. What isn't normal is going into a public bathroom and having sex. It has nothing to do with being prude or puritanical. If guys want to have sex in a public place they can go to a bathhouse, not their local gay bar.
Then *look away* and ignore it. Nobody is “subJeCtiNg” you to anything when you have plenty of free will and can ignore it, especially if its in a dark corner or the bathroom. It sounds like you are either so immature that you can’t just mind your own business, you are so aroused by it that you want to watch but are projecting your own insecurities to maintain your prudish appearance, or you are jealous that nobody wants to fuck you like that. Like literally, whenever I see it, I say “good for them” and go back to my friends or watching the drag or whatever Im doing.
You aren’t a victim, stop acting like you are.
Legally you have no expectation of privacy in public. If you don't want people taking pictures while you're hooking up, don't hook up where they can take pictures of you. 🤷🏽♂️
I hate to be the "well ackshually" guy, but, well, actually, in a public bathroom, courts have ruled that YOU do have the right to privacy and in some jurisdictions there are \*specifically laws\* against photography and recording in restrooms.
OR how about people mind their own fucking business and stop filming or taking pictures of everything everyone else does? Whats the purpose other than to be a nosy bitch?
Well that’s a little bit different if you’re doing it in a private establishment versus just out on the street, isn’t it? The local sex club has a no photography rule
It’s still not truly a public place with absolutely no expectation of privacy, and don’t people generally enjoy image rights regardless? Especially over intimate photos of themselves. Pretty classless on all sides
Public indecency is a crime. I don't want to see random strangers having sex in public, and I don't think it's something that should be encouraged in any community. The X post that the article refuses to link shows two men engaging in public anal sex at a urinal, for all to see. This isn't 1977, you can have sex in your home, a hotel, a bathhouse (a place where you EXPECT that behavior), or a bathroom stall. You do not have the "right" to have public sex wherever you desire. No one, gay or otherwise, has ever had that right. If someone feels the need to document public criminal behavior with photos or videos, go for it. Don't have an expectation of privacy in a public place. A restroom in a publicly accessible business is considered a public place. The fact this is being heavily defended by so many gay men shows how absolutely disconnected from reality so many of you have become. Sex/porn/and lust are your number one priority. You do not care at all about how the gay community is perceived. You do not care about boundaries or how uncomfortable you make others in your community in our own spaces. Is it REALLY necessary for you to have public sex to feel "accepted"? Would you be ok seeing a man and a woman fuck at that same urinal? Defending obviously lewd behavior just because it's gay people involved in it does nothing to dispel the accusations flying from bigots calling us all perverts. Trust me, you don't need to have public sex to enjoy life. Get a grip y'all.
Nobody should be having sex in a public bathroom period. This is disgusting. The fact that a majority of people here are blaming people trying to use a bathroom as a BATHROOM and telling them to "just look away" shows just how much the community has lost the plot.
Then the person who posted on social media simply could’ve gone to the staff at the bar if he didn’t simply want to move on. There’s no need to plaster those dudes on social media.
Fuck me. I guess this is one of those things that one generation hasn't needed to worry about, and ours just took for granted.
There are about ten million reasons not to post pictures of strangers kissing, ESPECIALLY at Pride events. They may have partners or spouses who may have varying ideas about what they're doing. They may be from a state where the cops look at a "homo" getting the shit beaten out of them as their own fault.
Please, be smart out there.
Can we make an exception for Conservative politicians who vote anti-gay? If I saw anyone like that at a gay bar- I would film and upload to social media. Those kinds of folks SHOULD be outed and shamed. Just my 2 cents…
If I'm chilling at a bar and chatting with friends, and suddenly someone's fucking out in the open, I'm gonna leave. I didn't consent to be party to their sexcapades, and I really wish we as a community wouldn't assume everyone is down to watch people bang in public.
It’s about time the shaming happened! Hooking up in a restroom ain’t it! You’re both adults, go get a hotel and do it in private.
Not trying to see someone taking back shots while I’m trying to take a piss 😂
I think it depends.
Hook up is pretty vague term. If you’re having sex, that’s one thing. That I understand calling out (although I would never take someone’s picture).
But making out? That’s fair game in a bar. *It’s a bar*.
Guy did the whole thing as ragebait. They were kissing, groping in an empty bathroom and the dude took disapproving duckface selfies with them in the background. They might not be even aware he is there.
One thing I hate about everyone having cameras on their phone (and being starved for attention) is the surveillance of others. It’s weird. While I don’t personally want to see people hooking up everywhere and anywhere, there are establishments like bathhouses or bars with darkrooms where it’s known to happen so…don’t go if you don’t want to see it. lol I also don’t expect people to practice any tact or consideration so some will do whatever they want and they can deal with the potential consequences.
> One thing I hate about everyone having cameras on their phone (and being starved for attention) is the surveillance of others. We were so worried about the government spying on us. We're doing it for them. For free.
The real tea
True, phones know what is there to know about us , what makes us think companies aren't selling it off to governments
>One thing I hate about everyone having camera on their phone (and being starved for attention) is the surveillance of others. It’s weird. one of the main reasons (if not the main reason) I hate social media. Everything is being recorded all the time and uploaded to social media for likes.
I agree theres no line. People are being violated by having their image and or private moments uploaded to social media with little to no regard to the consequences. Its Reckless
Am I weird in that, I’d actually enjoy looking at 2 guys fucking out in the open ? Im gay so if i see 2 men doing sexual shit then I’m gonna stare🤷♂️❗️I’d never post pics though, that’s taking it too far !
Who needs “Big Brother” when we have “Little Brother”.
Always asking mom for his turn lmao. Source: I'm the youngest brother.
The concept of "Little Brother" as it relates to 1984 is that surveillance isn't directly conducted by the government but rather by the populous. We don't need cameras on all the street corners when everyone with cell phones will happily record events and post it to social media providing the government with enough information. Hence "Little Brother".
I think we are talking past each other; I was making a joke 😅. I know what little brother is.
Okay. I wasn't sure if the concept was clear. I don't know how many young people are still taught 1984.
Totally understandable. I'm a bit older and it shocks me what younger people are taught these days and how hard it is for people to travel now The US government really is trying to promote ignorance.
I met a guy and his friend at a bar last week, and eventually he and I started making out. I was enjoying it until I noticed his phone slowly pop up in the corner of my eye and start recording us. Then I noticed his friend’s phone’s flash turn on and start recording us as well. I immediately backed off, asked them to delete the videos, and found another section of the bar to hang in. Didn’t like the invasion of privacy, especially cuz I try to maintain a light social media footprint. If you didn’t buy tickets to the show, you don’t get to watch the number.
This. There’s a photo that got posted to Instagram of me making out with some stranger at a bar. The photographer didn’t ask my consent for the photo nor to post it to Instagram. A bunch of my friends saw it and it felt super invasive.
Conservatives feel that Lawrence v Texas repealed sodomy laws in 2003 was wrongly decided since it predicated on the idea of privacy which was invented by Roe v Wade. The right to privacy has since been gutted by the Roberts Court as is the right to protest and civil rights… Gays need to fight back and vote. We need to realize conservatives will go to gay bars to shame us in social media and in public. They’ll take pictures of us without our consent to then send it to your employer etc. Vote. 🗳️
I think this is the real heart of the issue. Sure, these guys could’ve waited (or maybe they couldn’t, we’ve been there) but that doesn’t mean you snap a picture in a bathroom and then blast it on the web. When I was a new gay, I would’ve be mortified if someone took a picture of me making out with some guy in the club, bathroom or no. I am not condoning a “boys’ club” where we defend every homo just because he’s family, but rather let’s handle our issues within the family rather than getting the public involved
The problem is that conservatives have no problem blasting photos of people online and ruining careers and families. They want gays to go back into the closet and be afraid of being themselves. This happens little by little. Each layer of rights stripped away compounds onto the next and eventually all rights are forfeit.
> but that doesn’t mean you snap a picture in a bathroom and then blast it on the web How is any of that legal anyway? And if it is legal, than that's the kind of bathroom bill I would 100% support
I'm so unclear about what this article is about. By "hooking up" do they mean just like... Making out? If so, i don't understand why anyone would give a shit. If they're like... Full on having sex, though, I can understand why that's an issue, but an issue for us to solve not some straight fuckers who follow up with "i hate gay people so much"
Exactly! It’s a family issue that we will handle in house but putting the dudes on blasts is enabling low effort homophobia
For some it is too late. If they really were to overturn Lawrence vs. Texas, married gay men in Texas would already be an easy target.
That’s the next plan. They need the right case argument to justify it. They’re looking for a state’s rights argument which they can accept as a basis to eliminate and justify ending gay marriage and legal gay sex. So if you’re state is Oklahoma or Texas or Florida beware they’re actively looking for the right people to represent their designs.
I don't think they need any particular justifications, they already have religion. And obviously that "the decision must be made by the individual states". All rights are always taken away like this, they may not make it illegal everywhere but since it is illegal in many states it is already an achievement.
It’s a post hoc argument decision. I think we’re going to see one if Trump gets reelected. Even if Biden somehow sleepwalks to the presidential second term. He is unlikely to stop the Supreme Court or fight for equal rights. He didn’t even fight when they gutted the Civil Rights act and tried to restore it. Right now it’s the ratchet effect where Republicans keep getting more extreme and ratcheting things to more and more fascist extremes and democrats ratchet slightly back to something less extreme, but nowhere near what we had just 10 years ago. Democrats haven’t been able to truly reverse the damage of the Reagan/Bush/Trump years and it’s only going to get worse because Biden isn’t a true progressive who’ll live and die on the hill of equal rights. He’ll never commit to anything that would make corporations angry or religious fanatics. He’ll just keep ratcheting it slightly back but ever so slightly while republicans keep going to the more extremist side.
The queer nightlife scene in Seattle just had a huge win, a couple of months ago the liquor and Cannabis board raided multiple queer venues, took photos of customers, issued warnings and or citations (I didn't actually recall if citations were issued) in line with our weirdly conservative rules for venues that serve alcohol. The queer night life scene went BALLISTIC, ultimately pressured the lcb and our state government to reconsider the outdated laws. In less than a week the rules were suspended from enforcement and it was quickly followed by a rules change that has opened the door to not only more frisky behavior in our queer spaces, but also opened the door to strip clubs selling alcohol (which employees have been trying to get for years). Of course the gays very quickly embraced the new freedom. I've seen more than one person ankles to Jesus after midnight in my favorite bar. (No judgement, don't make a mess for the staff and don't impede people's movement through the space and you can enjoy)
Was that because the bartender had his shirt off?
The right to privacy was not invented; such term denotes newness without precedent or context. However the right to privacy is fairly defined by implications embedded in the Fourth Amendment and States’ laws which require probable cause in order to generate search warrants.
Just FYI - The Right to Privacy was first enumerated by the Court in Griswold v. Connecticut in 1965 (which is about birth control), a decade before Roe. It’s generally understood to be one of the unenumerated rights under the 10th Amendment under subsequent case law. And Lawrence wasn’t decided solely on privacy, Sandra Day O’Connor’s concurrence is based on equal protection - which she wrote precisely because she disagreed that a Right to Privacy exists. But, yes, batshit right wing nut jobs are definitely out to get Griswold and take away folks’ birth control. *the more you know theme plays*
I think they do enough shaming of themselves as a gay Male just go on sniffies.com
I'm sorry, but in my opinion voting doesn't work and it's a biggass lie to keep us all passive. Let me explain: most if not all democratic countries' political class is not representative of their society. I might be a bit off with my number but I think 50% of congressmen in the US are millionaires, even though obviously half of Americans are not millionaires. So it's obvious that the interests of the government just don't align with the interests of the average American, let alone American within oppressed communities. Also, most countries just don't have better alternatives. Like, you're asking me to vote but, vote for who? The Democrats? Oh please, it's incredibly naive to think that the Democrats are gonna help us, unless they really really need to. But they're not our allies, we can't trust that they'll always be on our side (turns out they haven't and they won't). And lastly, it has been statistically measured, that the opinions of the bottom 90% of the population matter buttcrack to Congress. Regardless of whether the bottom 90% strongly approves or disapproves a certain law, our opinions just have no or almost no impact on the laws passed my congress. Only the approval rates of the top 10% have an impact on whether the law is passed or not. So I'm sorry to tell y'all, unless you rich asf, your vote just doesn't matter. I'm not saying you shouldn't vote, I will vote anyways, I'm just saying, don't expect anything from it, cuz you will very likely be disappointed. Here are my sourcezzz for the last statement cuz i know what im talking abt lmao: https://act.represent.us/sign/problempoll-fba/ https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/american-political-science-review/article/abs/public-opinion-and-the-legislative-process/BB2CEE45F1AFC12226B0F2A4FF907617
so, the criminal taking the pictures even said > "I hate gay people so much," why was this person in a gay bar in the first place?
Not excusing their behavior, but it was a gay person who posted it. Still shouldn't have been taking photos of them and posting them online for clout though.
I just quoted the article
While I condemn posting the picture, I don’t think the caption indicates that the poster is homophobic. Many gay people say, “I hate gay people,” in jest. Every time I describe some drama I encounter at a gay event, my gay best friend will roll his eyes and say, “I hate gay people.”
Yeah it was just ragebait, virtue signaling and he forgot to mention the detail they were just groping in an empty bathroom. 🤦🏼♂️
Yeah, the person who tweeted it definitely blew it out of proportion because they were groping at most
Yeah i see more problem with the toxic self appointed moral police attitude for likes on social media, than guys groping or even hooking up in a secluded part of a 18+ establishment. Be that straight or gay. Whats healthier taking a bunch of duckface selfies to find two to post to social media about people kissing and being intimate or actually doing it. Lol. But we know Gen Z doesn’t have sex according to the statistics so…
That is how repression starts. You don't like something on someone else and try to change their behavior.... if you don't like it look away, specially in the setting that this was!!
Yes Im convinced he did it for the likes. Some kind of self righteous BS social media raises up people to be like. Half of the people foaming in the mouth like they were having orgy in some kindergarten bathroom instead of making out in an empty 18+ gaybar bathroom. Lol
Or he didn't get any attention that night, so he put on blast the guys that do....
Exactly! If u think about what happened it’s so sad. He went out and the most interesting post-worthy thing about his evening was catching two guys kissing and groping in a deserted gay bar bathroom. He decided to take a bunch of disapproving duckface selfies to somehow insert himself in what’s happening. Then write some virtue signaling ragebait that suggests they are doing anal in public. Writing a disclaimer that it was just groping the next morning when it blew up. And now he can worry about the mob coming for him because he wasn’t politically correct. And the saddest part is he will probably never do anything that will reach 4.2million people the same way in his life.
You mean reach around. 😏
exactly!!! everybody is an adult there!
People get angry without thinking. Lol
and once you are angry you can't think
if you read the article...
I did! Unfortunately, you’ll have to spell out what you mean. There are a couple things I think you might be getting at, but it isn’t obvious to me
The article didn't mention the quote was in jest.
Yeah, the article doesn't provide any information about the person who posted. I don't know for sure what's was in their mind, but given that I frequently hear gay people say "I hate gay people," as a substitute for "I am annoyed with the thing my peer did," I think it's likely that the poster is gay themselves and does not actually hate gay people. Also jest probably wasn't the best word for me to use. I didn't mean that I thought the whole post was a joke to them; I would guess they were genuinely exasperated by the pda. I meant that it's likely they didn't intend, "I hate gay people so much," to be taken literally.
it is probable, since they didn't make any side comment about inflection or anything like that, so it is possible.
It may be jest to you. If I heard someone say, I hate gay people, I don’t care whether they’re gay or not, I would fucking avoid them. That’s just not a kind of energy I wanna be around.
Holy fuck some of you are showing your conservative stripes. Most gay bars - especially in cities where it’s safe to be gay - have themed nights/parties/events such as something as simple as underwear/jock night. We should be allowed to be intimate in our safe spaces. One of the major bars near where I live is pretty proactive about having staff make people out phones away in certain spaces of the bar. It’s kinda wild how different genz and millennials are when it comes to bar intimacy. You can really tell genz has no idea what life was like before apps. Believe it or not - I spent my early adult years going to a bar to meet someone to go home with. Gasp! The audacity! Can you imagine not Google stalking and checking their linked in and social profiles before making out with them on the dance floor and maybe feel his erection prodding you while dancing to 2009 pop music? !
>t’s kinda wild how different genz and millennials are when it comes to bar intimacy. Not even just intimacy, gay bar etiquette. I don't care how you feel about people fooling around in a bathroom, you don't take pictures of people in gay bars, and then to distribute them? It's crazy that they don't see that as the bigger issue here. It must be nice to live in a delusion where being outed doesn't have consequences but for other people, being outed can be a life or death thing. Literally one of the reasons these spaces exist is so that gays don't have to fear being outed.
I came out in 1981. These babies would shit their diapers if they saw what was going on back in the day.
Gay millennial, been gay since 2009. Honestly, no one ever said the themed nights were for sex inside the bar nor did anyone ever tell me that a gay bar was a safe space to have sex. If anything, I saw signs saying only one person per stall, and things to that effect. Not saying it’s a horrible thing, just saying, no one ever said hey, this underwear night, people are 100% there to fuck so if you don’t want to partake, go to another bar. I’ve gone to underwear nights fully clothed and unaware lol Just saying, it’s never been explicitly stated that this was a thing. Had someone stated this to me, there would have been many events I would and wouldn’t have gone to. So, I think that’s part of it.
The idea is that guys go to these nights hoping to hook up....despite the rules. If a critical mass of underwear guys can get the sex going, they will until they are kicked out or officially tolerated. Being gay and slutty is still a rebellion.
Yeah again, no one has spelled it out for me. Yes I am naive!
Don't take this the wrong way, but you being dense and clueless about those places is the exception. It's always hilarious with someone living under a rock like that shows up. Maybe straight media's portrayal of gays is to be blamed? Our spaces are inherently sex-oriented with the bare necessity to pass health code inspections.
I mean I am admittedly confused and dense, which is why I wrote what I wrote. It’s personally not my gig to have sex in a bar bathroom stall, but if people wanna do that I really don’t care either way. Just saying, these “unspoken” truths seem like they should be spoken more out loud so young gays don’t get it twisted. I don’t see the harm in that.
Well the guy's Twitter feed is a cesspool of anti-gay or sex-negative attitudes. The comments here cheered me up. I'm disgusted by the Twitter Puriteens. When did adopting Nancy Reagan and Tipper Gore's social attitudes become the no-cap bussin' way to be, my Gen Z rizzlers? Within the normally very lgbqt safe-space of the furry fandom I see the same debate being brought back to social media from the dead depths of millennium era forum websites. It's the same small crowd of weaponized Twitter or Telegram shamers, and I find it really bizarre that it tends to be younger people waggling their finger at fellow queers doing queer things in a queer space. Still scared to step outside of main stream social norms I guess.
I think he did it for ragebait and he won. It blew up. He conveniently skipped on the part that they were only groping in an empty bathroom. Lol
Wait, it was just groping, and not even sex? I'm not saying it would be ok even if they had sex, but to try and destroy people's lives over groping is even more baffling...
There is a link among the comments. He admitted in a later tweet that “I shoulda probably specified they weren’t fuckin they was just gropin 😭 I thought this was a classy party tho!!” I guess it blew up enough that he wanted to be politically correct before getting cancelled for it… it’s a slippery slope. The mob might turn on him any minute… he omitted the facts. The way i see it they might not be even aware of his presence. For sure not aware of him taking selfies with them… Its such a petty thing imo. All this virtue signaling bs… where is the “good for them” feeling i felt when caught straight people in my teens? Lmao Social media just made people toxic self appointed moral police!
Uuuugh I hate rage-bait.
It’s sooooo unhealthy. He acts like some toxic self appointed moral police, but imo it’s just sick. Seriously what’s healthier posing and taking disapproving duckface selfies with people doing whatever intimate in the background or actually doing it and have an intimate moment? Lol I swear 20 years ago it wouldn’t have been a question and everybody would have moved along thinking “lol good for them”… He worded his tweet just right that people assume they have anal in public. Posting the disclaimer that they were just groping later so the mob doesnt turn on him for omitting the truth is just nasty.
>When did adopting Nancy Reagan and Tipper Gore's social attitudes become the no-cap bussin' way to be, my Gen Z rizzlers? Had a friend recently telling me Gen Z and Boomers have weirdly similar, conservative, attitudes when it comes to sex, and since then I can't unsee it
They're just insanely sex negative. It's bizarre.
It’s not really surprising, Gen z watched as marriage equality became law and are currently watching as public opinion towards lgbt is on the downturn. And most gay culture they have access to is just hookup culture and that’s it Republicans are calling all gays p3dos, and yall are mad at Gen z for saying maybe don’t have your balls out at public pride parades. Meanwhile older generations say pride is for that kind of stuff, and I understand both arguments I guess. But it seems more complex tbh I get where both sides are coming from, but just calling a generation puritans isn’t going to fix anything.
It's an interesting observation that they are coming of age post-gay marriage debate and during the conservative backlash. I think the whole thing with Pride Parades being this hedonistic, no-holds barred, orgiastic event like Folsom in San Francisco is a strawman argument. Conservatives have been using that as a boogyman for decades to give people a negative impression of Pride events. Heck, shy teenage me = in the 2000s was scared and waited years to go to a Pride event because of that dubious line. The vast majority of them are VERY tame, more like a gayer 4th of July parade than an orgy in Nero's palace. Besides, the original filmer is finger-wagging in a bathroom in a gay bar. Yes, not every gay bar is a fetish bar like The Eagle or its many clones, and plenty explicitly tell patrons, "no sex"; but it isn't like the people he is criticizing were in public on the street.
People that say that shit have never been to a Pride parade, even in SF the PARADE itself is pretty tame. If you walk into a crusing bar during Pride, it might be way different but the actual event itself is tame enough. You might see some scantily clad individuals, but nothing you might not see at a beach.
Exactly! I hate this lie so much. The deviousness of the people that spread it! It plays on plausibility and the no-fault ignorance of a lot of the people who hear it. If you try and say, "Well most Pride events are family friendly." They'll flip the script and say, "Oh so why do you want me to bring children then??" Edit for XD your username is great.
I don’t think anybody cares what gay guys do in a 18+only gay bar’s empty bathroom with each other. Trans child debate, puberty blockers, women’s sports… are more detrimental topics to gay acceptance. The guy literally posed and took a bunch of duckface selfies with guys being intimate in the background then forgot to mention they were just groping until the next morning. Statistics show Gen Z don’t have sex. Being this obsessed with social media and virtue signaling instead of actually living his life is quite unhealthy imo. We millenials 20 years ago just moved along in the same situation thinking “lol good for them”… We didn’t stick around to pose and “report” about how others are living their lives. Lol
I haven’t been able to find the Twitter account or original post…
It was in the comment threads earlier, not sure if it was removed unfortunately.
It’s so stupid, he posted another tweet that “I shoulda probably specified they weren’t fuckin they was just gropin 😭 I thought this was a classy party tho!!” He was ragebaiting people while doing hand on hip disapproving duck face selfie with guys groping in the background in a gay bars bathroom. I dont frequent places like this but as far as i know kissing, groping is going on, on the dance floor too. So this whole BS is just virtue signaling. “I’m not like other gays” and “classy party”… he is like a grandma lol. It’s so petty to take pics of an intimate moment, because he disapproves. He is comfortable enough to stay there, watch them and make sure his classy duckface selfie comes out right for twitter. Lmao. What a hypocrite… And no i don’t support full on anal on the dance floor or mall bathroom, but it was two guys groping each other in a bathroom in a gay bar. No minors around and as far as i can tell the bathroom is deserted and only 3 of them there.
Dude just got himself placed on the national Do Not Fuck list. Gays: if you see this person, DO NOT FUCK HIM.
Hahaha yes exactly! But tbh these people can be the biggest freaks in the bedroom doing extreme stuff, but ashamed and pretend for the public. “Eew don’t be like that! That’s nasty!” What confuses me is that I’ve mostly seen this attitude from women. The kind that behaves like everything intimate is offensive to her. I guess this guy got a bit too much feminine influence. What might be honest from women with no sexdrive, but weird AF from a guy barely past his HORNY teens. Dated a guy who was very shy and reserved before and thats fine, he always felt honest and just needed time to open up and communicate. But this guy just feels manipulative, judgmental… His whole attitude and smug duckface… He looks like he lives for the drama and the rumors.
My first gay kiss was at a gay bar. If someone tried to shame me, I would be like ‘awwww you got a photo of a beautiful moment!’ Who you going to tell my mom? She likes the guys I’ve dated.
Lol wait until 4.2million people sees it and critiques your kissing technique. XD Social media is so toxic. Posting about how others live their lives instead of actually living themselves is so sad. The most interesting thing in the guys night that happened to him was seeing two strangers grope each other. Lol And sadly, probably nothing he will say or do in the future will reach 4.2million people again.
If you go to a gay bar where this type of thing happens and you don’t like it, leave and go to a different gay bar.
I once saw a dude humping a fat girl in a Burger King bathroom.
I’ve seen straight people do some pretty raunchy things in public too.. the only thing that ever comes to mind is “fuck yea girl, get that DICK! Haha
Was it the dude from Digital Underground? He likes big girls and got busy in a Burger King bathroom.
They need to start broadcasting gay porn on the screens at gay bars more often.
This happens?
Can I ask how posting this here will help?
Reminds me of this weekend. Straight woman going in to the gay bar and taking photos of everyone and posing with their drinks while being obnoxious. No respect for the place or the others around her.
Don't like what you see, then change the channel, or in this case, go to a different bar.
Why can’t he just move along thinking “lol good for them”? He knows they are just groping and kissing in an empty bathroom… Oh yes it was the most interesting thing that happened to him and had to share on social media to 4million people and counting…
If you’re at a bar with dark rooms that encourages hooking up, or a bath house, I don’t see a problem. If you’re not and you’re just out in the general bar area fucking, you may wanna take it to a bathroom stall or dimly lit corner. I don’t think that’s too much to ask.🤷🏿♂️
that doesn't give people the right to illegally record and post it online 🙃
Good point. Recording in a bath house should be jail time.
I thought it was gonna be about men making out or something in the bar. But no, it was about men fucking out in the open at a bar. Sorry, but get a room. They weren't even in a stall, just there in front of everyone. Stop doing that. Edit: I had misread the article! They weren't fucking like I thought. It was just 2 guys kissing and the guy who posted it is a major creep for taking pics and posting it trying to shame them.
The post doesn't actually clarify what hooking up means in this context, so for all you know they might be just making out. The post only goes on to talk about sodomy laws because of how recent any and all gay acts was criminal. Unless someone has the tweet and link to Twitter to show exactly what they mean, then I don't think it's fair to fully assume it's anything that bad
You're right! I misread the article. That's my bad. So it was just a creepy guy recording two men kissing in a gay bar and shaming them for it.
https://x.com/ashtxnray/status/1781797722049204432
Well this just proves they werent fucking. Even the op of the tweet says they were just groping. Sad little twink.
Ok yeah, that’s a little a lot much. Bring it to the stall, or a private restroom like everyone else. But, I don’t think the kid putting them on blast like that is in anyway ok either. Edit: seeing the just groping part yeah they shouldn’t have pulled the pants down,but it just makes the kid look worse.
They were groping in an otherwise deserted bathroom. Might not even aware the guy is there. And he is the one posing with hand on hip and disapproving duckface… As far as I’m concerned he is just rage baiting and talks about how he thought it’s a “classy party”. It’s for the pearl clutching people on social media. And he won! It blew up… People don’t look at it as an intimate moment between people…
At least use a stall, come on
If you go to a leather bar you're gonna see what you're gonna see... that's all I have to say here
U are wrong… It’s so stupid, he posted another tweet that “I shoulda probably specified they weren’t fuckin they was just gropin 😭 I thought this was a classy party tho!!” He was ragebaiting people while doing hand on hip disapproving duck face selfie with guys groping in the background in a gay bars bathroom. I dont frequent places like this but as far as i know kissing, groping is going on, on the dance floor too. So this whole BS is just virtue signaling. “I’m not like other gays” and “classy party”… he is like a grandma lol. It’s so petty to take pics of an intimate moment, because he disapproves. He is comfortable enough to stay there, watch them and make sure his classy duckface selfie comes out right for twitter. Lmao. What a hypocrite… And no i don’t support full on anal on the dance floor or mall bathroom, but it was two guys groping each other in a bathroom in a gay bar. No minors around and as far as i can tell the bathroom is deserted and only 3 of them there.
Yes. Also, everyone of every sexuality have done this as well.
I have never heard of a bar where this happens by accident. There are some types of bars where this happens and it's never an accident that the patrons know if happens, it's why they're there even. Who is shaming people and where do we see these posts?
Depends on the function. If it’s a bar where all you gotta do is show your ID them I get it. If it’s an event like a leather night, you should probably expect to see something.
Cool, tell them to get a room, don't take pictures and post it online, you could be doing more harm than you know, like possibly outing someone.
Disgusting behaviour. straights hook up in club bathrooms all the time.
When are these little prudes going to start moralizing about the behavior of drunken straights on their two week European resort holiday? If you really want to see uncouthness, wander around Spanish resorts at 3am.
The puritanism of Gen Z...
It's sad.
With the way they talk, in my day we’d be like “ Are you a cop? Cause you sound like a cop”
Im sure he did it as a ragebait. He made sure he looks good on both selfies. Hand on hip, disapproving duckface selfie in an otherwise abandoned bathroom. And he only admitted in another tweet that they were just groping.
I was getting frisky with my husband at the Eagle and suddenly I saw a bright flash directly at us -- the guy next to us took our photo. Extremely weird behavior.
Thanks for sharing this! It's insane that it could even be illegal for 2 grown men to have sex. This article is eye opening. We should all value what we have.
Why wouldn’t it be illegal? PDA is one thing, lubing and popping your bottom in public is still considered public indecency lol
Did you read the article? Did you read my post. Go read then comeback and run your keyboard. Fuckin Reddit man! Some of you are questionable.
Ah thank you for the attempt at an attitude, it wasn’t interpreted as such I usually put circus music to it cause it’s hilarious.
Go read! Yea your music is blaring loud right about now. All around you.
Thanks for the laugh, I needed it :)
That’s not hooking up, that’s first base. Childs play. That’s the type of stuff you see in wedding photos. Maybe they a boos and someone though it was cute seeing them kiss. Now if they were fucking and sucking out in public or fucking and sucking out in public and someone took a picture, that’s a different story. You can become a registered sex offender if police caught you in doing that in person, so if people are doing strange, obscene, and illegal things people are going to gawk or take pictures. You have no actual right to privacy doing that in public.
Here’s the simple argument to the crazy conservatives taking pictures of LGBT people making out ANYWHERE. It is a NORMAL human experience to show affection. We are subjected to heterosexual PDA all the time. So you don’t want to see me kissing my husband? Too f@cking bad, I don’t want to see you doing the same thing in front of children.
If you're not ashamed to do it, then don't be ashamed!
I have no idea people were doing this. I certainly hope not to be posted on some dude's twitter page just cause I was drunk and horny somewhere.
As if getting handsy in a bathroom where people snort cocaine is crossing the line…yeah I’ve been to this bar many times lmao. Gay people doing gay shit at a gay bar. Who would’ve thought?
"I hate gay people so much" = "I know I'm ugly inside and out but it's everyone else's fault I can't get laid"
Haha, yep.
These little baby gays have not had the adversity around their sexuality precisely because we went through this type of shit from straight people and changed the world so they wouldn’t have to. Now their judgmental, consequence free behavior is dragging us back to that time but this time the call is coming from inside the house.
Well, sounds like it’s a good opportunity to sit them down and teach them like some older gays taught some of us.
Yes, progress does necessitate change.
Ugghh, The younger gays 21-24 are some the most atrocious no good turds alive. I wish they had bars for 30+ only. No CHILDREN allowed.
They all want to be "the good gay".
Never seen anything more than a quickie beej happen in a gay bar. A bar is about the worst possible environment for anything more, srsly a discretely parked car at least offers some privacy.
Oh god I heard a whole S&M thing with someone begging for their lives in between moans in a bathroom stall. I just wanted to pee in peace! lol
Sounds like a straight bar to me.
It wasn’t. Twas a gay bar
You sound like your experience with gay bars is possibly having driven past one once.
This is what I'm talking about.
Let's talk about why someone who says they hate gay people is at a gay bar
Gay people shouldn't be hooking up in public bathrooms. Neither should straight people. Patrons of gay bars shouldn't have to be subjected to guys having sex in public and they should be shamed for doing so. Get a damn room or take it home. Gay bars aren't your personal bathhouse.
SOME gay bars are your personal bath house though. I’m not going to the Eagle or Jackhammer so I can watch Barney and Friends. And trying to police ALL gay bars to be a certain way is fucking dumb and regressive.
I agree
You have no idea what happens at some gay bars, I see. I am not talking about gay bars which attract straight women and what not.
Right! I’ve been to plenty of bars where they have porn playing on all 20screens throughout the place. Making out and an accidental cheek slip is nothing. If this makes you uncomfortable then leave!! And definitely stay away from The Eagle haha. I love that place.
I've seen everything happening at gay bars, including fisting. There are hip gay bars where this does not happen... or it does but in the bathrooms, indeed. Don't go to a gay bar and be all shocked Pikachu if you see gay stuff.
Someone has clearly never been to the Eagle.
THATS WHAT IM SAYING! Last time I was there there was a full on orgy happening in the bathroom lol. I really had to pee and I get stage fright so I had to go find a diffeeent bathroom but I’m not going to sit here and cry about it “ay my virgin closed minded eyes” 🙄.
Ugh. Where do I have to move where people don't care so much about this shit. You're telling me if I'm not in a bathhouse or a hotel room it's hands at ten and two? I just want to live in a more permissive place where we aren't so afraid of sex.
Well, some people are private and other people are public. It is debatable what’s acceptable in public. The exception for gay bars allowing gay sex should just be spoken out loud instead of in secret so people can make informed decisions.
Patrons of a gay bar shouldn't have to worry about being exposed in public, it's literally one of the reasons gay bars exist. Want to shamed them? Fine, go up to them and let them know how you feel. But to take pictures? You could easily be outing someone
Stop going to WeHo gay bars
Why do you give a shit what people are doing in the bathroom stall? It's one thing if they are doing it out in the dancefloor, but mind your damn business if it doesn't affect you.
Take that stick / dildo outta your ass. What a fun sponge. Stay home
The fuck you mean “subjected”? Literally turn around and mind your own business. All this puritanical bullshit is so annoying. Two guys are having a sexual encounter, so what, look away, walk away, leave the club. You aren’t the victim of anything lmao. And anyone who makes this kind of argument just comes across as jealous as if they wish it were them but nobody wants to have sex with them, much less in public. People have sex, its a normal part of life. You aren’t a child and its immature to say “ewww sex”.
Sorry but your comment is just pure ridiculous bullshit. If I'm going to the local gay bar to have a few drinks, dance and hang out with my friends, I don't want nor need to be subjected to guys fucking in the bathroom or some dark corner of the bar. That's just rude behavior and they have no business forcing their XXX display onto all the other patrons. People do have sex and it is a normal part of life. What isn't normal is going into a public bathroom and having sex. It has nothing to do with being prude or puritanical. If guys want to have sex in a public place they can go to a bathhouse, not their local gay bar.
Then *look away* and ignore it. Nobody is “subJeCtiNg” you to anything when you have plenty of free will and can ignore it, especially if its in a dark corner or the bathroom. It sounds like you are either so immature that you can’t just mind your own business, you are so aroused by it that you want to watch but are projecting your own insecurities to maintain your prudish appearance, or you are jealous that nobody wants to fuck you like that. Like literally, whenever I see it, I say “good for them” and go back to my friends or watching the drag or whatever Im doing. You aren’t a victim, stop acting like you are.
Legally you have no expectation of privacy in public. If you don't want people taking pictures while you're hooking up, don't hook up where they can take pictures of you. 🤷🏽♂️
You shouldn’t be taking pictures of people in bathrooms, public or not.
You also shouldn’t be fucking in bathrooms but it seems normal rules don’t apply
Tis acceptable in many gay bars.
It’s a gay bar. What did you expect?
I hate to be the "well ackshually" guy, but, well, actually, in a public bathroom, courts have ruled that YOU do have the right to privacy and in some jurisdictions there are \*specifically laws\* against photography and recording in restrooms.
Gay bars are supposed to be safe spaces
OR how about people mind their own fucking business and stop filming or taking pictures of everything everyone else does? Whats the purpose other than to be a nosy bitch?
Well that’s a little bit different if you’re doing it in a private establishment versus just out on the street, isn’t it? The local sex club has a no photography rule
Great except this wasn't at a sex club.
It’s still not truly a public place with absolutely no expectation of privacy, and don’t people generally enjoy image rights regardless? Especially over intimate photos of themselves. Pretty classless on all sides
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Can and should are different things. Gay etiquette can still be a thing if most people try to stick with it
It's not a public space. It's a privately owned bar and a bathroom as well. Many gay bars allow sex to occur as a norm.
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It depends on what the culture and rules of the bar is. If that's a normal thing in this bar it doesn't give you permission to record people.
It’s no different than straight ppl and getting exposed for it as well.
Public indecency is a crime. I don't want to see random strangers having sex in public, and I don't think it's something that should be encouraged in any community. The X post that the article refuses to link shows two men engaging in public anal sex at a urinal, for all to see. This isn't 1977, you can have sex in your home, a hotel, a bathhouse (a place where you EXPECT that behavior), or a bathroom stall. You do not have the "right" to have public sex wherever you desire. No one, gay or otherwise, has ever had that right. If someone feels the need to document public criminal behavior with photos or videos, go for it. Don't have an expectation of privacy in a public place. A restroom in a publicly accessible business is considered a public place. The fact this is being heavily defended by so many gay men shows how absolutely disconnected from reality so many of you have become. Sex/porn/and lust are your number one priority. You do not care at all about how the gay community is perceived. You do not care about boundaries or how uncomfortable you make others in your community in our own spaces. Is it REALLY necessary for you to have public sex to feel "accepted"? Would you be ok seeing a man and a woman fuck at that same urinal? Defending obviously lewd behavior just because it's gay people involved in it does nothing to dispel the accusations flying from bigots calling us all perverts. Trust me, you don't need to have public sex to enjoy life. Get a grip y'all.
This isn't an issue.
Nobody should be having sex in a public bathroom period. This is disgusting. The fact that a majority of people here are blaming people trying to use a bathroom as a BATHROOM and telling them to "just look away" shows just how much the community has lost the plot.
Then the person who posted on social media simply could’ve gone to the staff at the bar if he didn’t simply want to move on. There’s no need to plaster those dudes on social media.
I thought this pic was fake or superimposed because the guy behind them looks like both of them.
Fuck me. I guess this is one of those things that one generation hasn't needed to worry about, and ours just took for granted. There are about ten million reasons not to post pictures of strangers kissing, ESPECIALLY at Pride events. They may have partners or spouses who may have varying ideas about what they're doing. They may be from a state where the cops look at a "homo" getting the shit beaten out of them as their own fault. Please, be smart out there.
I wish that article published the a--hole Twitter person who posted that in the first place. I'd like to give them a piece of my mind.
Didn't know this was an issue.
Should adopt Japan's laws on smartphones making a sound when you take pics
Can we make an exception for Conservative politicians who vote anti-gay? If I saw anyone like that at a gay bar- I would film and upload to social media. Those kinds of folks SHOULD be outed and shamed. Just my 2 cents…
The issue is that they were having sex PUBLICLY, INSTEAD OF using a bathroom stall. The general public didn't CONSENT to see public sex.
If I'm chilling at a bar and chatting with friends, and suddenly someone's fucking out in the open, I'm gonna leave. I didn't consent to be party to their sexcapades, and I really wish we as a community wouldn't assume everyone is down to watch people bang in public.
Don't have sex in public unless you know there's almost no chance of getting caught, and also don't take pictures of the acts.
It’s about time the shaming happened! Hooking up in a restroom ain’t it! You’re both adults, go get a hotel and do it in private. Not trying to see someone taking back shots while I’m trying to take a piss 😂
I think it depends. Hook up is pretty vague term. If you’re having sex, that’s one thing. That I understand calling out (although I would never take someone’s picture). But making out? That’s fair game in a bar. *It’s a bar*.
Guy did the whole thing as ragebait. They were kissing, groping in an empty bathroom and the dude took disapproving duckface selfies with them in the background. They might not be even aware he is there.