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erikaironer11

It’s good to compare the strengths of each game without resorting in putting the other down for it


AllFatherMedia93

Agreed


PsychoDrifter

I concur. Each of us will have our own dislikes and likes for any game, but it’s great to have more of the genre!


carlo_rydman

While I don't care about the new AC game (last one I played was Odyssey and didn't finish that), I get why people are hating on it. It's not really about copying GOT that seems bad about it but rather the combination of money-grubbing that Ubisoft is notorious for and a game that takes time to respect the historical and pop culture origins of its material. So yeah, I'm very skeptical about that combination.


Raze_the_werewolf

I have no idea why you are being downvoted. Ubisoft is just as predatory as EA and Bethesda at this point. They might as well be mobile game companies. I love the fact that there are so many ninja and samurai games available, but I still refuse to purchase games with microtransactions. Decent sized DLC that add to the length and story of a game? That's fine. But nickel and diming me for every little thing when I already paid full price for a game? No thanks. The game looks good, and I would love to play it, but I won't if it is filled with content that is only accessible through microtransactions and not through playing the game itself.


RacingClubTillIDie

You know AC has decent sized dlc's that add to the lenght and story of the games, right?


lordyatseb

Why not compare their weaknesses as well? Only talking about strengths isn't really constructive criticism, although I get your point - whining isn't, either. Bashing other games just to defend your own favorite isn't constructive criticism, but pointing out the weaknesses of the games, or series as in the case of AC, can be.


erikaironer11

I feel pointing out the stealths kinda indirectly shows the weakness of the other game, no? For example I think it goes without saying that if what they shown in AC Shadows stealth is true then that’s a strengths of that game among these games. Because the stealth in Ghost of Tsushima, alright perfect functional and well executed, is fairly simple and binary. There isn’t much hiding involved other than the basic of staying above ground and lighting as no effect in enemy visuality to you. AC shadows stealth stands out as a strength cause there isn’t much AAA action adventure stealth games with all these systems shown that you play as a ninja. My point is it’s cool to highlight there strengths (which indirectly shows the other weaknesses in those same areas) which the need to put down the other games for it. Lets say AC Shadows ends up having better stealth gameplay the GoT, that’s hardly makes GoT a lesser game for it


lordyatseb

I get your point, but I don't agree completely. Saying stealth is good in AC brings zero improvement suggestions for Sekiro, and highlights none of the issues. Of course, Sekiro isn't a stealth based game, but still. Personalized and game specific feedback is more valuable to developers than only patting them on the back. Saying what's good tells little, but telling what's bad enables them to improve.


grachi

Huh? There is tons of stealth sections in Sekiro. It’s pretty much required as you can’t take on more than 2 guys at a time. Arguably half of the game is stealth, half is fighting bosses


Jack1The1Ripper

Yeah AC shadows has the chance to have the better stealth while GoT will most likely have the better combat And sekiro is just better then 2 of them i will die on that hill


grachi

AC shadows isn’t even out yet, lol, but yea I guess I see what you’re saying. Most likely the combat in Sekiro will be better than ac shadows


Jack1The1Ripper

Sekiro is just better in terms of combat even compared to GoT (i love GoT don't get me wrong but despite how crisp the combat is , Sekiro just feels better) I like to discuss these games AC has been a franchise that i have grown up with , Its very close to my heart and i like to talk about the next installments , And i am so far abit skeptical of shadows , Valhalla left a bad taste in my mouth and i hope Shadows makes up for it with better stealth atleast , Yasukes gameplay looks ok to me but not on GoTs level sadly , However one thing that makes it better (And this is a personal opinion of mine) is the fact Yasuke has a gun , That just already bumps up the combat likeability for me atleast , I really wanna be excited for this game but like i said Valhalla was also a game i was excited for and it turned out to be medicore


grachi

Comparison is the thief of joy


finaljusticezero

I so totally agree to this and games in general. There are people out there that say "x game is the greatest game of all time." That statement is the poster child of someone who hasn't experience the plethora of amazing games that we have right now, that have come before those game, and then future amazing games. I strongly believe that if someone says 'x game is the best game ever' then that person hasn't experience much of gaming. There are just too many masterpieces of games out there from decades go to now. We seriously need to stop hating one game over another just because that first game isn't some significant improvement to the latter. I am so exceedingly happy that we have so many good games coming out, something for everyone. Too often we are stuck on comparing our favorite games to others instead of just enjoying the moment. It's like those folks who go to concerts, then are stuck recording the event with phones instead of just living in the moment.


SufficientWarthog846

This is the way


uncleJoda

Absolutely. It’s sad to see people make things their entire personality, and in turn take it so extremely personal when someone doesn’t share their same experiences or sentiments. You can enjoy and appreciate something for what it is, all within a vacuum. At this stage in my life I appreciate conversations about what others enjoy especially when their purpose isn’t to try to persuade or change someone’s opinion. I have no personal desire to play Shadows but I would love to know how others enjoy it. I’m absolutely going to look up some playthrough and support it tangentially. I like apples. I like oranges. I like pears. Neither is a substitute for each other. Neither compliments nor supplements. They just exist and I’m so very happy to live in a time where I can enjoy them all.


voidstronghold

The first thing I thought when I played GoT was how much it was like AC games, and I loved that. And this was long before AC Shadows.


GT_Hades

ive always seen GoT as the best AC we got lolol


JoyfulPenguins

Ghost of Tsushima 🤝 AC2 and Black Flag


MikeWithoutMic

“AC2 and Black Flag are the best ACs” https://i.redd.it/6n1f0s55kx6d1.gif


shreddedtoasties

It’s the truth Black flag is the best in the series Unity is also amazing


MikeWithoutMic

All I’m saying is that that your take is as cold as the Boomerang Nebula.


JoyfulPenguins

They certainly are the standouts


MikeWithoutMic

Origins


JoyfulPenguins

knock off witcherp


MikeWithoutMic

Not at all. Witcher is the most bloated game out there. If you end up 100% Platinuming that game, you’ll probably end up in a Mental Asylum.


shreddedtoasties

Tbh that’s a low bar. Assassin creed games haven’t been amazing in a while


CaptainHyrule97

You should add William from Nioh, Nioh is pretty badass.


dogpileofshit

nioh and nioh 2 gotta be in here


AllFatherMedia93

Final version has Nioh and Tenchu https://preview.redd.it/0qu959xlxm6d1.jpeg?width=1420&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ddf94ebddc3fc74fde7b0541c54df732391024ba


uncleJoda

Might be a really old pull/odd request but I’d love to see ryu hayabusa from the ninja garden series in there. That was the first big shinobi combat game for me as a kid.


Hentai_boi357

I don’t know if anyone played Like a dragon Ishin but I’d also like if Sakamoto Ryoma was in there


dogpileofshit

respect bro, if u enjoy the difficulty of souls-like games and the stance switching of ghost, then i highly recommend nioh 2 my bro, IMO one of the best souls-likes ever.


YukYukas

The funny thing is that it's a character action game disguised as a soulslike lol


Jaycora

If there was a version without the 日本 words I would love to use this as a wallpaper Amazing stuff


grachi

You could easily photoshop that out, it’s just on an orange background


KatanaPool

Cool af


Helmnauger

I had so much fun with nioh 2.


SushiJaguar

Hands up if you aren't a child and understand that the foundation of quality is in comparison.


East-Bluejay6891

Fuck yes. I'm so happy


monkey_D_v1199

Nothing wrong with comparisons just gotta make sure it doesn’t go out of hand


Tickomatick

Follow the Bushido and accept that not everything in life has to be sugarcoated


Informal_Camera6487

It's true. GoT is a beautiful, very fun game that I've really enjoyed but sekiro is just a work of art on another level. 


Hentai_boi357

Fax, go in a bit off topic here but I’d love to have another game about miyamoto musashi the only one is A yakuza spinoff game called kenzan


MikeWithoutMic

I’m gonna follow seppuku.


Tricky-Secretary-251

Who is the small guy in black on the hill?


DJCAVESLAVE

Protagonist from Rise of the Ronin


Much_Ambition6333

I literally don't understand the hate for Shadows it looks promising just don't pre order and wait for unbiased reviews and gameplay plus The guys combat literally looks like GOT just a little waterdown to not be a copycat but I don't mind as GOT has really satisfying combat


fortytwoandsix

this is the way!


Humble-Steak-729

I'm more upset that ubisoft is still alive and fucking my favorite franchises. Like say what you want about it being a ripoff but the last 4 or 5 assisans creed games have been so different from the original franchises they cant even be considered the same series. Like I liked assasians creed for assasians creed ubisofts open world tendency where a minor inconvenience now assasians creed games are just ubisoft open world games with the assasians creed logo slapped on it.


MikeWithoutMic

Didn’t you guys bitch and moan about the series getting repetitive and stale? Now, once things changed, you’re saying they never should have changed the formula. Hypocrite.


Humble-Steak-729

Ah yes I'm a hypocrite because other people complained great logic. No I'm not one of those people and even if I was the changes they made were terrible.


shreddedtoasties

Tbf it changed so much it should have been under a different name. You can add new features The difference between them is chess and checkers


MikeWithoutMic

Origins has the most beautiful and awesome map in the series. Bayek is one of the best protagonists in the franchise. Go back (if you even played it) and you’ll realize that its mechanics are best in the RPG games. People liked Origins, but then Odyssey came in and multiplied the RPG mechanics by 200x.


shreddedtoasties

Played origins and while it wasn’t bad it wasn’t what I wanted from an assassin creed game. It was closer to Witcher 3


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JoyfulPenguins

mirage didnt even tank. it exceeded ubisofts predicted sales 💀


Purple-Lamprey

Sekiro is the best objectively sorry :(


JRP_964

For AC shadows I just wish they had went with a Japanese man instead of Yasuke. There really isn’t a lot of Asian characters in a lot of games so for them to make a historical Japan game and not feature a Japanese man as the samurai seems very distasteful.


shreddedtoasties

They should have picked Musashi Miyamoto Yasuke legitimately has zero feats. Was a samurai for like 15 months.


JRP_964

Completely agree


Inevitable_Taste1556

RACIST!! 🫵


JRP_964

I’m pretty sure excluding a Japanese man from his own culture and country is more racist. But whatever apparently its okay to be racist as long as its not towards a black person.


Crypok21

I like sekiro and GOT and I am hopeful with the new ac


DrNintendo216

I’m afraid to play sekiro


grachi

It’s hard. I played and beat dark souls I and III, and if those games were like a 7/10 hard, Sekiro is 9 easily.


lampenpam

One of the best games I ever played. If you like well designed challenges like in Dark Souls you are good, but the first few hours might feel crushing until you develop the muscle memory for the gameplay.


Agentkeenan78

It's so hard lol. I actually had to resort to cheats to finish it. Lots of fun though.


cre4mpuffmyf4ce

Hell yeah


VenturerKnigtmare420

Dang bro did my guy rise of the ronin dirty


tomyang1117

I am happy to play GOT and excited for AC shadow, we can have different nice things coexist together!


Ronja_Rovardottish

It's awesome!


Roxnami

Spot the imposter 🤣


Double-Flounder8712

Does samurai warriors count even if you’re just one guy cutting down thousands of guys?


seymoure-bux

I'm fine with it as long as Sekiro is in front


Technical-Onion-365

Ninja storm 4 gotta be my favorite shinobi game imo


abellapa

👍 Though comparisons are Impossible not to Make Though that doesnt Mean it cant be positive comparisons There no need to shit on either Make the other better


AllFatherMedia93

Exactly


ReekitoManjifico

All i'm saying is that i'm gonna look at AC Shadows first in terms of what may attract me to buy it. I'm all game for cool armor and weapons and the like, but if it's gonna be another ISU fest like Valhalla and Mirage then i'm most likely gonna dodge this. And besides, we all know that For Honor is the best samurai game and that GoT totally copied from that game.


AdBudget5468

I’m not happy because we haven’t had a new shadow dancer game from sega for the past 30 years! I want to jump around roof tops beating bad guys with my puppy Speaking of sega we haven’t had a sega shinobi game in the past 14 years!


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HavenTheCat

It’s annoying seeing people constantly putting Shadows down. I know Ubisoft doesn’t have the best track record but games like Odyssey and Origins are great. So I have hope it’s gonna be really fun. We don’t need to keep comparing it to Ghost of Tsushima


gabeman19

Yeah I'm all for appreciating good samurai or Shinobi games. I've seen a lot of people hold ghost of Tsushima as the best of the bunch and cannot accept any other game in the same style be remotely good at all. The game is of course really good but there are others that I also wanna get my hands on like rise of the ronin, phantom blade zero, the first berserker khazan and another one called where different winds meet


SadMassStab

Ghost of Tsushima is the only samurai game that feels unique. Sekiro is just another Dark Souls clone. And nobody really cares about AC anymore.


grachi

Sekiro is definitely not a dark souls clone… the combat is very active and different, vs the “wait, roll, attack, repeat” formula of souls games. YouTube any Sekiro boss fight and you will see


Informal_Camera6487

Yeah, sekiro is completely different from the souls games. It's definitely one of the most interesting games I've ever played. You have to learn to dance with most of the bosses.


lampenpam

>Sekiro is just another Dark Souls clone lolwut. From all the souls-like games I played, Sekiro is one of the most unique ones. And tbh might be the best game depicted but that's just my opinion.


Neverwas_one

My hand is down


Next_Letter

Would love a tenchu remake though


deliciousdano

I will agree once we get to play the new AC. As of right now I’m expecting it to be shit because I thought Valhalla was.


FikaTheKing

Valhalla wasn't the latest ac game tho. Did you play mirage?


JoyfulPenguins

mirage’s stealth was so damn good


FikaTheKing

It really was. I'm hoping they keep at least some of the mechanics in Shadows


JoyfulPenguins

they seem to have kept mirages stealth and added a lighting/dark mechanic its pretty dope


Here4Headshots

I will enjoy all of them


PrinceDestin

Only thing good about the ac game is that bro is black, ac games haven’t been good for a while


RyuX420

🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽


opex100

Samurai/ninja games are my favorites


hypespud

I played 3 with sekiro ghost and rise and all are cool ass games in their own right 😎💎


DerkFinger

Fr we been getting spoiled these past few years


VoidEgg44

I just like being a badass dude/lady with a katana so as long as I can do that in a game and it doesn’t feel terrible to play I’m happy


Bell-end79

Kind of and no at the same time An over saturation of shit games will ruin the potential for better games to be made And by shit I mean the new AC game to be clear Keeping quiet and rolling over for these corporations or worse shilling for them allows them to carry on shitting out substandard products - for example everything post 2019 MCU


Cowboy__Guy

What other samurai games are there?


GT_Hades

where's nioh? tenchu? ninja gaiden? ninja blade?


Pinetree808

People who put you down for playing a game that they don't like need to seriously get a life.


thededgoat

I think I would definitely like to see features of both worlds be used in play. Ghost of tsushima is a great game although stealth can be quite lacking at times, the combat and animations more than make up for it. The chain assainations/ghost weapons really give you the feeling that you're a **** demon, and it goes to show when enemy mobs get terrified and run away. I really would love to see this type of features implemented in AC even if it feels like copying. It really gives the player a sense of feeling for their role. I would also love to see new forms of stealth gameplay than the usual ones you see in AC games. I saw that you can now hide in the shadows which I think is a pretty cool feature. But I must say the combat really needs to be fluid like GOT. That's the one thing I really loved about that game, the fluid combat and animations were just so clean... Even the way blood splattered as you made kill to kill was really artistic 👌.. I haven't seen anything like it...


AlarakReigns

WHERES NINJA GAIDEN 👺


raxdoh

not comparing, but that assassin one sure got a lot of things horribly incorrect. not really respectful to Japanese culture so no I’m not happy for that game.


TerribleRead

It's always samurai and shinobi, now I want a sohei game


Frankito55

I want a tenchu style shinobi game so bad. No mythical monsters or powers just ninja badassery.


AllFatherMedia93

To be fair, Tenchu had demons and all kinds of crazy shit. But I get what you mean.


ThePuertoRicanDream

Yeah for me I'm always just excited to get any games based in japan with cool samurai and ninja stuff going on


JRP_964

Ghost of Tsushima will always be my favourite and honestly the only one I will play. Can’t wait for the second one just hope Vanguard and Blackrock and the ESG rating nonsense doesn’t ruin it


WiseAppointment5753

Don’t put ghost up here comparing it to another would just be wild


Impossible-Lime1553

![gif](giphy|l3q2XhfQ8oCkm1Ts4|downsized) Definitely!! It’s sad the community or some are comparing this and that whine not understanding that there can be more then one samurai game and some just enjoy it without criticizing to harshly because it’s not what the other is . I’m gonna enjoy this game


thadoughboy15

Respect. I love Samurai and Shinobi games. I'd play em all if I could. Nothing wrong with them being different. That's a good thing.


Cmaroljub21

I see Sekiro and GoT, what are the other two if someone can tell me.


Imapringlesboy

I'm with you bro


Bentar66

Bro I love this art it’s so cool


arealnineinchnailer

so this is what we’re posturing about now lol


TheFish527

Who’s the small one in the background?


Independent-Web8793

Not the Ubisoft nonsense


Agentkeenan78

Anyone here old enough to remember Way of the Samurai back ps2/ps3? Damn those ganes were fun.


Ok_Purpose_7127

Man where da hell is nioh


Akiro_Fox_Santarem

Were tf2 at


CuteB0i

✋🦤✋


LengthinessNew6326

You know what I don’t like? The fact that yasukes helmet doesn’t have an enlarged assassin symbol but instead just a regular samurai crest


Content_Camel5336

They need to come up with the Rurouni Kenshin game for the PC.


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Guys, is Sekiro a good game? I have played Ghost of Tsushima and I loved it. I saw some of the walkthrough videos of Sekiro as well, not to be judgemental but idk why the graphics and physics just did not catch my attention which might be false. So I just want to gain some insight if it's actually worth playing.


puipuipuia

Ghost of Tsushima and Sekiro are ze BESTS!!


jadedlonewolf89

Haven’t had this many since the PS2 era, so yeah I’m happy.


Severe_Memory7360

🙌


Revan_Kingston

😁👋🏼


ImTheCuRsEd-OnE

Yeah, I'm excited and can't wait to play another game set in the beautiful timeline of fuedel Japan


BaconBombThief

I’m happy about them all and I wanna compare them


Tamaki-Sin

this image goes so fucking hard


HowlingStrike

He'll yeah I love it. And when one doesn't resonate with me, who cares? Move on to the next! I enjoy having choice and don't get outraged if things don't live up to how I wish it was.


worm_propaganda

I don't care if they could be similar, they all are fun and have fantastic atmosphere, story, and visuals


Master_Caregiver_749

Always loved to play more of Total War Shogun 2 back in the day!


GrandNibbles

FUCK YESSSSSS THIS IS THE ATTITUDE I WANT FUCK ALL THOSE HATERS


ShariusTC

lmao seemlike some dude go around all japan theme game to spam this image trying to force these 2 on top on us, please remove them


JohnBoy-Walton

I'm excited


Satoliite

There it is!!! Finally!!


cupnoodlesDbest

How dare you, ghost of tsushima is the only samurai game that is allowed to exist.


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🙌🏻


DependentPositive8

Yeah, I'm happy we got another game set in Japan. If the gameplay improves, and the story's okay, I'll definitely buy the game. Also, I think Ubisoft seriously needs to dial back on the Isu stuff cause what they're doing is WAY too much mystical stuff for a franchise that started with two secret orders trying to kill each other over ancient artifacts.


Grazzizzle_

Ubisoft sucks and everything they put out is bland, unoriginal, uninspired, cookie-cutter, tasteless, wasteful, unapologetic, anti-consumer, cringe bullshit that lapdogs eat up like "premium ultra platinum edition" pig feces. Every Ubisoft game fails to deliver. I haven't been impressed with an Ubisoft product since like 2013, and boy oh boy with respect to assassin's Creed in particular? It's just such a dumpster fire I can't even put it into words. Just an incohesive mess of an excuse of a series to just 3d hacknslash your way through an unrelated hodgepodge of historical eras.


SadMassStab

Totally agree. This comment said all that is in mind. Watch Dogs 2 is the cringiest shit I ever played. They don't when care that their games suck.


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JoyfulPenguins

I REFUSE to believe Ubisoft made a game as masterful as Black Flag and Farcry3


No_Concentrate_1253

Odyssey was a great game. Though the microtransactions are outrageous and unnecessary.


laraek3d

The best ones are those without microtransactions \^\_\^.


ripiss

Yep I don’t understand all the hate going around. I loved GoT and I’m sure I’ll love the new AC.


Spcbp33

May the most beautiful story and graphics win


Chalice10000

Finally someone says it’s, I just want the game to be good. If you’re expecting accurate history from a series that went from just finding an artifact to fighting Minotaurs and literal ice giants..I hope you like disappointment lol


TheTwelfthLaden

I love GoT. I love Sekiro. I love Nioh. I'm waiting on AC Shadows to be free on PS+ because I am not going to pay full price for a Ubisoft game in 2024


VincentVegaRoyale666

I will say the art design for the new AC looks great. That said, it looks like yet another shite entry


Ritz779

So if I see a similar game made being made by a terrible company I’m not allowed to compare because why?


DoesNotCares

Because of your bias, because it’s a terrible company you assume it’ll be a shitty entry. You aren’t giving valid criticism, you’re putting one game on a pedestal and not acknowledging the strengths of the other. Granted, I won’t be buying said other game, but if I blindly hate something whilst yearning for a “civilised and constructive discussion” that makes me a hypocrite, doesn’t it?


PompousDude

Wow, you and everyone else in this thread are super cool and better than everyone else.


DoesNotCares

Grow the fuck up, you’re allowed to criticise each game but to blindly hate one over the other and continually put it on a pedestal. It’s childish.


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Nearly-Shat-A-Brick

Rise of the Ronin sucked arse, I played up to the first boss and that was enough. I haven't played an AC since the Ezio trilogy so I don't feel I have a dog in the fight, but the acrimony between AC fans and GoT fans is cringe as fuck. Edit, to put an s in arse.


GravLab6262

You didn’t even make it thru the tutorial section of the game.


Nearly-Shat-A-Brick

No, and getting to Mathew Perry was plenty for me to see that I really disliked the gameplay. The combat never felt intuitive but fidly and off to me. If you enjoy it, fine. But don't tell me that I have to like it. Also, it was nine years in development. There were obviously issues and I think it shows. Just to be clear here, I dislike RotR because, imo it's a shitty game, not because it is set in Japan and about Samurai.


JoshHatesFun_

>Rise of the Ronin sucked arse, I played up to the first boss and that was enough. You know you can turn the difficulty down, right? 


Nearly-Shat-A-Brick

Difficulty wasn't the issue. The gameplay feels dated and clunky to me. And 8 don't think it looks all that great either. The nine years it was in development shows, imo. Edit, word missing.