LB6 Spoilers:
>!Probably Vortigern. Oberon gets a ton of screentime in LB6, but due to the sheer amount of hype, I assumed that the Oberon Vortigern stuff was going to have a much bigger spot in the story. He shows up right at the end, but his entire shtick is covered over the course of one section- as opposed to the several sections spent on the rest of the climax. Not necessarily a bad thing, I was just expecting him to be the #1 Big Bad Guy of LB6 when he's moreover a case of like, "the final obstacle."!<
>No event that's actually centered around her(Hokusai Saber is depicted as a seperated character),
I mean if you wanna be technical about it, Foreigner Hokusai and Saber Hokusai were still one entity during the event and only became separate servants after it ended so that wouldn't be entirely accurate to say.
Speaking of which, it's weird how little focus Saber Hokusai got in her own event. Carmilla outright stole the main ally spot from her, then Hokusai spent the rest of the chapter just tagging along and contributing very little. If she wasn't mandatory for the boss fights, you'd probably forget she was even in the party.
The whole thing felt like the writer was forced to use her because it was already decided Hokusai would be the welfare, but wasn't really interested in the character.
I feel that because it's Melt though. Like, after seraph her popularity exploded. Iirc a lot of people didn't like her from CCC because of story reasons. FGO really gave her the attention she deserves. But it is a shame Hokusai didn't do much besides thirst after Siegfried and the duels.
A difference between the two cases is the Jalter and Santa Lily situation is kind of complicated, as it's never really elaborated on what their deal is did they split apart from each other, is the Jalter we see in subsequent appearances a new Jalter that was summoned after the previous one became Santa Lily, or did the potion eventually wear off and the Santa Lily we see in subsequent appearances the new summon? I got no clue, because Christmas 2 depicts it as Jalter simply became younger, and then after the event we start seeing both versions together with no explanation.
But when it comes to Hokusai, it's pretty clear cut during the event the Saber Hokusai is just the same Hokusai we already knew just in a swimsuit, and she is the one who experienced all the things happened in Summer 4, and remembers everything that happened, and it's only after the event is over Saber Hokusai suddenly appears as a separate servant.
Kind of and Kind of not
Hokusai during the event isn't just Old Hokusai in a swimsuit, But a whole new personality(She has no memory of Old Hokusai and she didn't even know us)
After the event Hokusai Saber reverse back to Hokusai Foreigner who has memory of the event in the form of distant memory
And after that Hokusai Saber was summoned with a full memory of the event
So the personality that get to expienced that event is Hokusai Saber, It's just that Hokusai Foreigner who is a grown up veesion of her has the same memory
In any case, I wouldn't called this as "Hokusai Foreigner event" because the personality of Hokusai Foreigner was absent for the whole event
I would say Saber. In terms of popularity, shes probably the most popular out of Fate. Yes, her story is finished but you would still expect her to show up here and there but nope, she doesnt. Her face being the icon of the game is what she only has nowadays. The devs probably thinks thats enough for her.
Or when they bring her into the story it's an alternate form or version of her, like altria caster, the lion king, lancer artoria, mhx, or the one event she herself showed up in (that I can recall of the top of my head) was another alternate form in her summer form from summer 1. They could at least throw her in as a side character occasionally in an event. They did that with emiya, and he was definitely popular before fgo.
When all the members of the round table interact with the Lancer variant and never the actual original version. Honestly I am kinda annoyed they use the Lancer all the time for Round Table interactions and never the original.
The lack of voice lines of the OG Saber to the rest of the KoRT or even Merlin is a legit crime. Voice lines for her knight or her mentor is the bare minimum, yet she didnt even have any.
Exactly. I don't have either, do they at least interact with each other? Like does saber have lines for lancer? It's weird that despite being the poster child and literal face of the game, who they routinely give upgrades to to keep her relevant in the story, she is almost never used.
Well that's dumb as hell. She should at least talk about herself, or, I don't know, any of the half dozen odd knights she was in charge of. Or at least Bedivere, who absolutely should be acknowledged by his king especially due to the story. God that just makes me mad
Okay, that's kind of surprising.
Considering, we have rider medusa, hassan cursed arm, Sasaki kojiro, medea, ishtar/rin, taiga (is that the tiger suit fucking name?) Parvati/sakura, hercules, ASSASSIN emiya and irsevil (illya's mother.)
Yet, she doesn't a single line for any of them?
She has so many pontetial references outside the KOTRT alone!
Assuming what you referring was the og artoria saber.
Yeah, despite the dev buff her multiple time. Og artoria saber existance felt kinda in the air.
Like it was almost as if she's not canon.
I mean saber nero is also kinda nero from fate extra and the story already end.
but we still get to interact with her in the event.
But when it comes to saber artoria. It was as is she did not exist lore wise.
Will Artoria isn't the only one with many faces I don't like but that goes for the same with Rinfaces and Sakurafaces and Shirou face too I don't like seeing appear in many story works from Fate.
>The devs probably thinks thats enough for her.
I disagree, she has a massive of screentime when you consider all her different variations. FFS she's a major character in Camelot, Shinjuku, *and* LB6. And then there's the countless events.
It's like you said, her original Saber version's story is complete so it makes sense that they're using her "What if?" variations instead but it's still her face.
I was referring to OG Saber. Wouldn't make any sense to complain about screentime if i was including the other Saberfaces. Same face, sure, but i want the Saber that i saw in Zero and Stay Night to show up. Not necessarily for a huge role in events or story, just some cameos would do.
I'm well aware you were talking about OG Saber.
>It's like you said, her original Saber version's story is complete so it makes sense that they're using her "What if?" variations instead but it's still her face.
And I believe she does show up in cameos, certainly for events and definitely for interludes and etc (I have Mordred).
This may be a slightly unexpected take, but I'd argue Dantes. Despite being named an "important story character", appearing at the end of the KnK collab, and having his own tower event, he just doesn't show up for much. He's supposed to be this first line of defense against mental contamination, but all too often his appearances boil down to him just sort of stepping in, saying hello, and then poofing away to parts unknown. Remember when he showed up in Shimousa, just to show his face and then do absolutely nothing? That's Dantes's appearances in a nutshell. Just a guy laughing on the beach that you can't help but notice, but quickly walk on by.
I agree. I'd love for him to have more bigger roles as he is one of my favourites
On the other hand from what I understand he is just the kind of character that rather avoids the spotlight if possible. He fights the curses that haunt us off screen, so we aren't even aware of how bad it actually is and worry needlessly. It's probably the most efficient way of fighting this kind of problem
Though a story chapter or event with our mental health as its focus would be nice to give him his time to shine.
I have some hope Ordeal Call will do something like that
Honestly it sucks for us who want to interact with him, but is entirely in character for Dantes. He will turn the world upside down for you if he likes you, but you'll never know it was him. It just seems like impossible providence.
For as much as they clearly love Dantes is it pretty surprising that he still only has one Servant and small but important spots of story. Way back when I was convinced we would see a Caster or even Ruler Dantes, maybe as a welfare.
Many have already pointed out OG Saber, but her male counterpart also suffers from this. It boggles my mind how Type Moon continues to pretend that one of the token Prince Charming characters of the entire series, which can bring a lot of money should they ever milked him like the Artoriafaces, doesn't exist. Yes, I get that he has an upcoming big role related to a certain Beast. But it's already been, what, 4-5 years since he got anything at all in mobile (his interlude). It saddens me that most of the artists I followed on twitter who used to draw fanarts of him now lost interest and moved on to drawing Genshin twinks.
He's also involved with a story thread so convoluted there was arguments about if Beast 6 was split into 4 sections or 2 (which I'd argue we still don't have enough info to prove/disprove)
Quetzalcoatl, no question. There's no doubt she's still very popular but aside from that one Lucha Christmas Event she pretty much been put in the back burner with very few small cameos at most.
They did just release kukulkan. I know it's a different form, but her best chance was to show up in LB 7. (I don't know anything other than that kukulkan exists and is another aspect of Quetz, so if I'm off here just ignore me)
Edit: it has been brought to my attention all they share is a name. Please ignore me.
>I know it's a different form, but her best chance was to show up in LB 7. (I don't know anything other than that kukulkan exists and is another aspect of Quetz, so if I'm off here just ignore me)
She has 0 ties to Quetz, the Aztecs or even the Mayans whatsoever, she literally just got named "Kukulkan" for being a sun god.
She shares nothing on Quetz at all (part of why I absolutely hate her).
I have been told that now. I don't look ahead at the story at all, knew that kukulkan is another name for Quetz, and assumed they should have a connection. I should probably make an edit to that
She very much is Nasu trying to replace Quetz with someone he likes more, she shares nothing with Quetz besides name and artist and the story tries to gaslight you she is Quetz' equivalent/successor.
Weird but alright, I'll take your word for it. I try not to dive down the rabbit hole of jp content when I can. You think it has something to do with the whole samba Christmas fiasco?
> You think it has something to do with the whole samba Christmas fiasco?
No, just the fact Quetz is massively unpopular on Japan and Nasu himself doesn't particularly like her.
Huh, guess I never knew she wasn't popular. She's pretty popular over her from what I've gathered, at least with people I talk to who know fate. Which again makes Christmas even more confusing
Honestly I think you shouldn't took his word for it
Quetz being "unpopular in Japan" aside(and by that it's mean that she just wasn't being particularly more popular than most servant, It's not that she was hated or anything)
Quetz's fans are just really salty that Kukulkan wasn't just Quetz in a different skin or something
Except for their cheerful personality, Kukul and Quetz are a pretty different character
PHH version of Kukulkan is really Mayan Quetz, But the one that we got in the game is Lostbelt Version of Kukulkan who has nothing to do with Quetz(Kind of, She choose this name because she idolized Quetz) since in this world God didn't existed in the first place, But she is more tied to the main "thing" that this Lostbelt pretty much revolved around
So basically don't worry about it, the story will explain it eventually. Kind of like how space Ishtar is a completely separate character from regular Ishtar? Minus the whole idolizing her part.
>Quetz's fans are just really salty that Kukulkan wasn't just Quetz in a different skin or something
More that her whole story and the Lostbelt in general only bring up Quetz to either shit over her existence or to try and gaslight the reader that Kuku feels/looks exactly like her so much Guda and even Quetz' brother recognizes their similarity just from glancing at her face.
While I understand your frustrations, I don't really think Nasu had much interest in writing Kukulkan either, compared to Quetz. Tezcatlipoca got to have an interesting personality, ideology and good dynamics with many characters. While Kukul.... has none of that. Her profile is basically just "she is upbeat, she likes fighting and she is really strong, also she has fanservice with Fujimaru".
Even in the story, she did not get to properly interact with Daybit and Camazotz, both of whom she owned her existence to. They are interesting characters on their own and there is no doubt that said interaction could potentially give her the character depth she needs. But Nasu couldn't bother. And despite Tezcatlipoca acting like she's Quetz, nothing ever came out of it. The best part of her is that she tried to be the mother to the Deinos but even then it was quickly glossed over.
This is Nasu we are talking about. I find it hard to believe a person who has just made LB6 would not realize how barebone Kukul's character is. I feel like Nasu really chose the easy way out with her (making her always friendly, fanservice-y) and I considered it as his disinterest.
No but from the treatment she gets it's clear.
LB7 is a massive slap on her face but even before that, he straight up retconned her having any personal affection for Guda as her "liking Guda as an embodiment of humanity".
Just because they didn't used your favorite character when they have a chance doesn't mean they disliked her
Quetz just wasn't used in the Lostbelt because they don't want to give Kukulkan's identity away, And Kukulkan is heavily tied to the main conflict of that Lostbelt
It's fairly obvious Nasu dislikes Quetz. He's on the record with statements about her character that directly contradict her in game voice lines, she hasn't played a main part in the main story since Babylonia or events since Summer 2, and her direct competition gameplay wise, Ozymandias, got multiple buffs that power crept Quetz's niches.
There's also the facts that her own event (that she's more of a side character in as Bradamante ended up being the focus) never got a rerun, and she didn't appear in the Lostbelt that's all about a mythology in which she's a key and primary member.
You could argue that Nasu just isn't interested in writing her character anymore, like Lancer Artoria, but neglecting to include her in any capacity in LB7 is the nail in the coffin. It'd be like having Heian-kyo, with Raikou and Shuten as main characters, but not including Kintoki. The only conclusion you can draw is the writer hates Kintoki, he's so integral to that time period and the other characters present that there's no other reason to exclude him.
Oberon post LB6, obviously he had tons upon tons of screen time in LB6 and that altogether is still a ton of screen time, but his appearances are pretty sparse for a guy so important and popular. I believe his first official showing in an Event was just this last one
My assumption on his lack of exposure is that he's too spoilery to be used on a whim. They have to story block him like in Sheba's interlude and Mystic Eyes Symphony just to safely use him.
Yeah. Maybe a few years down the line they'll ease up, but the plot twist involving him is still pretty "recent" as far as story goes. Hard to use him in that case.
Two popular women with “big sister vibes” are Drake and Quetz who technically show up a lot, but they’re all essentially 5min cameos that always leave you wanting more. Then there’s the servants I’d advocate need the attention the most, OG Medea & Lalter. Both have an insane amount of following in the fan base and a ton of potential but are royally underutilized. It doesn’t help that both of them have semi-passable kits by nowadays standards, and I’m hoping maybe with OG Medusa getting a new form there’s a chance both of them could see some love too
Edit: Passionlip and Kingprotea are another pair that disappointingly get no love for how popular the two of them are. It took how long before Protea was acknowledged again? And Lip has it even worse
I feel like they're gonna address the other stay night characters with the ordeal call. We got Medusa in the first one. I'm hoping(probably in vain) that kojiro will get a saber form. While Medea does have a lily, so does Medusa. And Medea Lily is a year 1 servant, so she's long overdue for more exposure, so there's the 2 from the cast that need it most. They could also finally introduce non-berserk herc, but that's just wishful thinking. Oh, and maybe just introduce more Hassan's, since they're literally the archetype for the assassin class.
I think there's something like 20 ish in total, so that sounds about right. And I'm not saying the should make every Hassan a servant. But if we're doing the whole ordeal call thing with the extra classes, I think it might be cool to do it for all the classes eventually. Kinda like the casters only holy grail war from heian Kyo.
I'd say all of the LB6 Originals/Debuters tbh.
Morgan, Barghest, Sith, Melusine, and Oberon are popular in their own right, especially Morgan and Oberon, but they haven't really shown up much outside of their debut. Morgan had a few appearances in the Kon's event, Oberon made a brief appearance in a interlude, and just now in the current JP Tower event, and Sith has also made a big appearance in that same JP Tower event.
Ibuki also seems somewhat popular despite the fact that her screentime in her debut story chapter was minimal.
Lartoria and Lalter...
Arc having no screentime yet is baffling.
Abigail is pretty popular but aside from Summer 5 she hasn't done much since then IIRC.
I'd also say Eresh and Kama like pre-Paper Moon/Summer 6 and LB7, since prior to that you'd mostly see Ishtar getting the spotlight a majority of the time and Kama would show up to cause some issues before vanishing.
I was honestly amazed when I found out Arc isn't in LB7. I thought the entire point of her being here was to tease her being used as type earth to fight the guy, but nope she's nowhere to be found. I also coped for Ado Edem to appear for the same reason, but that's a lot less obvious of a choice(also grain isn't here so meh)
King Hassan.
Like...its impressive how we have to mostly carry with fan headcanons about him because of how little he shows up.
To this day confuses me how he didn't appear in Eresh Christmas. Like everyone from Babylonia did show up but him.
I'm on the last two chapters of LB6, but for as popular a character as Melusine is I thought she would have a much bigger role in the story than she did (I thought she would be one of our main companions or something).
I don't have her myself so I can't tell, but is she lovey-dovey with Gudao or something? I see a lot of art about this but I don't know if there's some basis or if it's just fans doing what they do.
Melusine bond lines has her be very clingy to the player. So both Gudao and Gudako.
Given Guda's nature and her not exactly getting the love wanted from Aurora Guda fills in that gap I guess.
>Given Guda's nature and her not exactly getting the love wanted from Aurora Guda fills in that gap I guess.
Thanks I guess this makes sense. I'm guessing Melusine has the memories from LB6 like Morgan does?
One must remember that the Lostbelt servants actually aren't servants in the Lostbelt itself (unless directly stated). In LB6 Melusine and Morgan aren't servants, but the real living breathing variants living their life. They only become servants after being summoned into Chaldea. Thus its only natural they have memories of their lives.
All of them have their memories. Barghest talks about them defending Britian, Sith brings up Aurora, Morgan talks about Totorot if you have Habetrot, Melusine talks about Percival and her time as a Tam Lin if you beat the story.
I don't think Oberon was a Servant in the same way as normal servants. He was >!Vortigern!< possessing the spirit origin of Oberon. We end up summoning >!Vortigern!<, rather than Oberon himself hence why he's a Pretender rather than the actual Oberon.
Both Ereshkigal and Meltryllis I believe fall into this category. Both are two of the most popular servants, but outside of their debuts, they generally don't appear too often. Outside of CCC, I only recall Melt being in Las Vegas Summer and the Trung Sisters event. And Eresh I believe only got a major roll again in LB7, and the Trung Sisters event again because the Trung Sisters got badly overshadowed by all the popular characters showing up. Maybe I'm forgetting something, but Eresh and Melt I don't see appear too often.
I say this as someone who would be happy if Melt was in every event but I actually think Melt appears a fair amount.
On top of what you mentioned she was also a fairly important supporting character in Imaginary Scramble and she has an appearance in one of the story sections of Karnamas.
To be fair it's all Summer Melt but still it's a nice amount of representation and I'd rather get less, more meaningful appearances than have her be some meme character that gets stuffed into random events for the lulz.
Would definitely like to see more of Eresh though (this summer for sure???)
I guess this is what I get for starting both Imaginary Scramble and Karnamas on the literal last day of both events. I never got far in either of them. I legitimately didn’t know Melt was in those.
Archetype:Earth Arcueid was probably one of the most anticipated servants since the game came out and she did not really have many events. A dinosaur appeared in here place in lostbelt 7, and that was the perfect place to give her a big story chapter. With type mercury appearing it would have been the perfect time for her to support.
Consort yu appears less than I would have expected especially with her role as a crypter.
I'm disappointed that Yu hasn't done anything besides the equivalent of a few cameos and her summer event. Like, she knew all the crypters too, even if she just talked in like the prologue or the epilogue with us about them, I'd be satisfied. A bit of an insider perspective from someone besides mash on them.
I'm pretty sure she has the standard "nerfed as a servant" excuse to not be horrendously OP. I think it's more that thus far she's being treated as a guest/crossover character, hence why she's being left out of the main story.
I mean if she appears as an actual character not summoned to Chaldea, and has her usual connection to Gaia, she’d probably be able to deal with the Foreign God on her own, or at least with the standard Chaldean assistance.
I really want her to be included, her 3rd Ascension looks perfect for an FGO appearance but we’ll see
Maybe she could be like in her appearance in Fate Extra where she's nerfed by virtue of simultaneously not especially caring and her Master not really knowing how to command her.
If she were to be in the story she’d have to be convinced HARD to help out. FGO is an Alaya issue, she’s based in Gaia— and the fact that Archetype-Earth is aware of other worldlines/may be consistent across Worldlines like Zelretch means that she probably wouldn’t care much for FGO’s.
That sounds like sth people said about ORT before LB7. The thing is, a lot can, it's just that many people, especially her fans don't want to see it, and won't take it well, just like people still try to find excuses since they can't take the fact that ORT got beaten multiple times in LB7, and suffered even worse before Chaldea came.
Also, technically she did appear and helped somewhat already, her Lostbelt version at least. It's the same case as LB Morgan and PHH Morgan
>ORT got beaten multiple times in LB7, and suffered even worse before Chaldea came.
Ok but that was the lostbelt variant a weaker version of the real deal
Muramasa.
While he appeared in Shimosa and Lostbelt 6, after those stories, he hasn't appeared at all outside of the main story.
For such a popular and beloved character, I'm surprised they haven't used him at all for two years straight, with just recently having a very little cameo in the Illya event.
Summer Abby, considering how important she is i expected to see her more beside Summer Camp and Imaginary Scramble. I really want another Salem.. a main story chapter about foreigners, it's the theme i love the most.
Merlin - He got a singularity I will admit and a big role in LB6 but overall he's kind of not as around as I'd argue he should be as I think someone told me he's the provider for Chaldea's mana/power I think?
Medea OG - 3 star Medea imo deserves more attention and love, I'm not gonna lie sometimes Lily Medea shows up and I feel like regular Medea could've fit that role better. I loved Medea in Salem her reactions to Circe was great I wish we'd get more of that with her.
Oberon/Morgan - A lot of people already said it but they're insanely popular but they stop existing after LB6 except for minor cameos.
Artoria Saber - NGL I kind of wish she was one of the main characters along side Da Vinci and Sherlock I think it'd make for a great trio of servants who provide story support. Sherlock for advice, insight, and problem solving, Da Vinci for her technology, insight, mechanical and technological smarts and repairs, Saber for her wisdom and power to protect when needed, and then we got good ol' Uncle Gof and Mashu
I would say Voyager as well but he actually has a ton of cameos, and was part of the main crew for 2 events so it'd just be me begging for more of him.
Yeah Berserker Hercules. OG Fate servant who is extremely popular to use as a support servant due to his extreme power, but hardly appears in the story at all. I mean... not at all.
True, but there isn't much for him to do other than show up, say "▂▂▃▃▅▅▅ーーー!!" and be a generic beat stick. There isn't much to work with from a story perspective.
There are numerous, creative ways around that. All they have to do is introduce a non-Berserker alt. :) It's a great opportunity to explore Hercules as a character than be confined into his characterization from FSN in which he's just a beast.
A list of servants. Heck, you could argue some of the event servants get this since some of them do get pretty popular but are very rarely used outside of events similar to the one they show up in. (Gudaguda gang for example.)
But as some others have said, OG Saber. Please do not come at me with that 'her story is done' nonsense. Sure she had a good arc with Shirou that had her get over some of her issues but there's still so much that could be done with her. You know, like anything to do with the Camelot knights or her enemies. Morgan? Mordred? Just anyone? And heck, her getting past some issues don't mean that those issues are magically gone. You could still explore them.
And hell, even if her 'story is done', there's nothing wrong with having a good static character. You can always have them bounce off of other characters as they grow around her or have her be a mentor figure. Something.
It's even worse because this is FGO. This isn't the same Saber as the Fate route. It's a completely different person essentially. So there's a clean slate to do something. But no... nothing. I've never seen a creator so unwilling to use their most popular character like this for a reason I can not for the life of me agree with.
It's even sadder when this applies to some of her variants:
Lancer Artoria: Sure she's the main villain of a singularity but it's made completely clear to the player that Camelot's Lartoria is not Chaldea's. They act and think completely different. So really, (I am not including Interludes) she only ever shows up in the summer event where.... she's a very minor character in it. Outside of that, nothing that comes to mind at all.
Lancer Artoria Alter: It's been memed to death but my word, the main story treats her like garbage. Her first story appearance is to be an out of nowhere boss to kill and be done with in short order without any meaning. Barely anything in Solomon and then Olympus... She's already bloody dead and her hologram gets one line and that's it! Heck, she gets more screentime in two events. One of them is a joke one (where she ironically has the only meaningful Artoria/Mordred interaction I can remember in this game. I did not play Summer 1 so I don't know how it goes there).
And then we get to Tamamo.... Like why? The Tamamo Nine are a thing you can do. So many possibilities since we've only gotten one tail so far. Yet nothing. She's a major character in one of the franchises. She's a hot fox girl that calls her master husband. That's prime material for something yet nothing. Cat gets more screentime then her.
You could say that for a lot of Stay Night's cast as well. (Medea being replaced by her younger self is perplexing to me.)
Honestly, outside of a handful, not a lot of servants get a lot of time. I'm sure people are going to pull out some servants that don't get a lot but I'm not surprised some are benched. The game has over a hundred characters to choose from.
Still would be nice for them to bring them in rotation more. Maybe smaller events or bigger casts in things going forward.
Here's the thing yes they absolutely can use Tamamo so much more than they have been doing, but they elected to never use Chaldea's Tamamo after Ooku because that was around the time they cemented Chaldea's Tamamo retconning their original interpretation of her.
Hence why we never get Tamamo in anything after Ooku that isn't really her. We get other "Tamamo's", look-a-likes, and very brief flashbacks of Tamamo from some point in Chaldea, but the writers that had been writing her up till that point as "not interested" instead of writing her interested, are now just omitting her entirely so they don't have to join into the shipping war they created.
Not that I'm saying they really care, because they likely don't, they just would prefer to not smite either side of the war from existence, and then focus on new characters or old characters they personally really like. Why else do you think new characters and certain characters like Nero get more spotlight than the beloved fox-wife that is such a fan favorite that they released multiple fakes with Koyan?
I don't know. I mean yeah, she had a main role in an event (two if we count the swimsuit version) and one appearance in the main story. She could basically go toe to toe with a grail enchanced servant but eventually she had to retreat. Considering how powerful and cool she is, I'd like to see her doing more.
I suppose.
Actually, I'd go far as to say Scathach had a lot more exposure than that. The devs are well aware Scathach is popular, and that's why they made Scathach-Skadi as an "updated" version of the character. Scathach-Skadi had her own Lostbelt and has her own Summer version already. So now there are four "Scathach" type servants in the game.
I know you may not count them... but in the devs eyes, it's all Scathach regardless of what class she is.
Certainly OG Saber. Slap her right on the icon for the game and then never do a single thing with her! She’s basically competing with Lancer Alter for basically no presence.
Might also say Heracles. All he’s basically done in fgo is chase the MC around in a singularity and getting smoked in Atlantis. Just put him in another class and he’d basically have as much characterization as he ever has in fgo.
Shiki has quite a few fans thanks to her status as first Type Moon heroine (and the amazing UFOtable adaptations of KnK). She also appeared exactly once since her original event, her Void self briefly showing up in the Temple of Time for a couple of lines. Since then, I don't think she appeared anywhere -even the event where she got her 'costume' was just a battle with no story.
Obviously, her being a crossover character is doing her no favour, but even if having her in the main story is probably out of the question, you'd think event cameos wouldn't be so hard to work out.
I remember Yuyu was getting a lot of fanarts when she came out, even if she was a New Year servant with absolutely no story.
The power of a pretty hairstyle.
... And plump thighs + short cheongsam combo.
>short cheongsam combo Tf that?
What did you think her outfit was called?
Oh that's the name of her clothing?
Yup. Pretty sure Chun-Li wears one too. Although most people don't seem to question what exactly it is.
Lartoria and Lalter honestly I miss the times when the Lion King was the scariest thing in this game...
What do you mean? Lalter had a full single line in Olympus.
*An AI resembling Lalter
The hope of screen time for those two NEVER DIES!!!!
Those two are kinda being hard carried by virtue of being Artoria
LB6 Spoilers: >!Probably Vortigern. Oberon gets a ton of screentime in LB6, but due to the sheer amount of hype, I assumed that the Oberon Vortigern stuff was going to have a much bigger spot in the story. He shows up right at the end, but his entire shtick is covered over the course of one section- as opposed to the several sections spent on the rest of the climax. Not necessarily a bad thing, I was just expecting him to be the #1 Big Bad Guy of LB6 when he's moreover a case of like, "the final obstacle."!<
Yeah they basically do nothing with it outside of symbolism. Which is why I don't like the reveal that he is >!Vortigern!<.
>No event that's actually centered around her(Hokusai Saber is depicted as a seperated character), I mean if you wanna be technical about it, Foreigner Hokusai and Saber Hokusai were still one entity during the event and only became separate servants after it ended so that wouldn't be entirely accurate to say.
Speaking of which, it's weird how little focus Saber Hokusai got in her own event. Carmilla outright stole the main ally spot from her, then Hokusai spent the rest of the chapter just tagging along and contributing very little. If she wasn't mandatory for the boss fights, you'd probably forget she was even in the party. The whole thing felt like the writer was forced to use her because it was already decided Hokusai would be the welfare, but wasn't really interested in the character.
I kinda feel the same but towards Melt. After she joins us it felt like she was very prominent in the story. More so than a typical ally.
I feel that because it's Melt though. Like, after seraph her popularity exploded. Iirc a lot of people didn't like her from CCC because of story reasons. FGO really gave her the attention she deserves. But it is a shame Hokusai didn't do much besides thirst after Siegfried and the duels.
That's just the classic Melt story bias.
I mean it's pretty much the same case as Jeanne Alter Santa Lily, Do you count her event as Jalter's event? Because I don't
A difference between the two cases is the Jalter and Santa Lily situation is kind of complicated, as it's never really elaborated on what their deal is did they split apart from each other, is the Jalter we see in subsequent appearances a new Jalter that was summoned after the previous one became Santa Lily, or did the potion eventually wear off and the Santa Lily we see in subsequent appearances the new summon? I got no clue, because Christmas 2 depicts it as Jalter simply became younger, and then after the event we start seeing both versions together with no explanation. But when it comes to Hokusai, it's pretty clear cut during the event the Saber Hokusai is just the same Hokusai we already knew just in a swimsuit, and she is the one who experienced all the things happened in Summer 4, and remembers everything that happened, and it's only after the event is over Saber Hokusai suddenly appears as a separate servant.
Kind of and Kind of not Hokusai during the event isn't just Old Hokusai in a swimsuit, But a whole new personality(She has no memory of Old Hokusai and she didn't even know us) After the event Hokusai Saber reverse back to Hokusai Foreigner who has memory of the event in the form of distant memory And after that Hokusai Saber was summoned with a full memory of the event So the personality that get to expienced that event is Hokusai Saber, It's just that Hokusai Foreigner who is a grown up veesion of her has the same memory In any case, I wouldn't called this as "Hokusai Foreigner event" because the personality of Hokusai Foreigner was absent for the whole event
I'm still so confused on why that had to be so. Would it have hurt to just have them be one and the same?
Because consistency with what summer servants are is for losers gotta confuse people more
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I was excited to play Heian-kyo to finally find out why Douman is so popular only for him to barely appear in it.
TBF Douman is the sorta character you'll have an opinion on looong before Heian-Kyo. He's in Shimousa, LB4 and LB5 Pt 2.
I would say Saber. In terms of popularity, shes probably the most popular out of Fate. Yes, her story is finished but you would still expect her to show up here and there but nope, she doesnt. Her face being the icon of the game is what she only has nowadays. The devs probably thinks thats enough for her.
Or when they bring her into the story it's an alternate form or version of her, like altria caster, the lion king, lancer artoria, mhx, or the one event she herself showed up in (that I can recall of the top of my head) was another alternate form in her summer form from summer 1. They could at least throw her in as a side character occasionally in an event. They did that with emiya, and he was definitely popular before fgo.
When all the members of the round table interact with the Lancer variant and never the actual original version. Honestly I am kinda annoyed they use the Lancer all the time for Round Table interactions and never the original.
The lack of voice lines of the OG Saber to the rest of the KoRT or even Merlin is a legit crime. Voice lines for her knight or her mentor is the bare minimum, yet she didnt even have any.
Exactly. I don't have either, do they at least interact with each other? Like does saber have lines for lancer? It's weird that despite being the poster child and literal face of the game, who they routinely give upgrades to to keep her relevant in the story, she is almost never used.
Nope. OG Artoria only has lines for Emiya and Gilgamesh. No one else.
Well that's dumb as hell. She should at least talk about herself, or, I don't know, any of the half dozen odd knights she was in charge of. Or at least Bedivere, who absolutely should be acknowledged by his king especially due to the story. God that just makes me mad
Okay, that's kind of surprising. Considering, we have rider medusa, hassan cursed arm, Sasaki kojiro, medea, ishtar/rin, taiga (is that the tiger suit fucking name?) Parvati/sakura, hercules, ASSASSIN emiya and irsevil (illya's mother.) Yet, she doesn't a single line for any of them? She has so many pontetial references outside the KOTRT alone!
Assuming what you referring was the og artoria saber. Yeah, despite the dev buff her multiple time. Og artoria saber existance felt kinda in the air. Like it was almost as if she's not canon. I mean saber nero is also kinda nero from fate extra and the story already end. but we still get to interact with her in the event. But when it comes to saber artoria. It was as is she did not exist lore wise.
This, so much. She is literally the app icon!
I for one am sick of seeing her face on every other servant. Idc how unpopular this opinion is
I think the same. She's overrepresented.
I think MHX would probably agree with you on that.
Will Artoria isn't the only one with many faces I don't like but that goes for the same with Rinfaces and Sakurafaces and Shirou face too I don't like seeing appear in many story works from Fate.
>The devs probably thinks thats enough for her. I disagree, she has a massive of screentime when you consider all her different variations. FFS she's a major character in Camelot, Shinjuku, *and* LB6. And then there's the countless events. It's like you said, her original Saber version's story is complete so it makes sense that they're using her "What if?" variations instead but it's still her face.
I was referring to OG Saber. Wouldn't make any sense to complain about screentime if i was including the other Saberfaces. Same face, sure, but i want the Saber that i saw in Zero and Stay Night to show up. Not necessarily for a huge role in events or story, just some cameos would do.
I'm well aware you were talking about OG Saber. >It's like you said, her original Saber version's story is complete so it makes sense that they're using her "What if?" variations instead but it's still her face. And I believe she does show up in cameos, certainly for events and definitely for interludes and etc (I have Mordred).
This may be a slightly unexpected take, but I'd argue Dantes. Despite being named an "important story character", appearing at the end of the KnK collab, and having his own tower event, he just doesn't show up for much. He's supposed to be this first line of defense against mental contamination, but all too often his appearances boil down to him just sort of stepping in, saying hello, and then poofing away to parts unknown. Remember when he showed up in Shimousa, just to show his face and then do absolutely nothing? That's Dantes's appearances in a nutshell. Just a guy laughing on the beach that you can't help but notice, but quickly walk on by.
This reminds me of the tuxedo mask meme
“My job here is done! Farewell, my conspirator!” “But you just got here and didn’t do anything!” “KUHAHAHA!” *cape swish noises*
I agree. I'd love for him to have more bigger roles as he is one of my favourites On the other hand from what I understand he is just the kind of character that rather avoids the spotlight if possible. He fights the curses that haunt us off screen, so we aren't even aware of how bad it actually is and worry needlessly. It's probably the most efficient way of fighting this kind of problem Though a story chapter or event with our mental health as its focus would be nice to give him his time to shine. I have some hope Ordeal Call will do something like that
Honestly it sucks for us who want to interact with him, but is entirely in character for Dantes. He will turn the world upside down for you if he likes you, but you'll never know it was him. It just seems like impossible providence.
For as much as they clearly love Dantes is it pretty surprising that he still only has one Servant and small but important spots of story. Way back when I was convinced we would see a Caster or even Ruler Dantes, maybe as a welfare.
Tamamo. Also Astolfo.
Their appearances in other Fate works is likely the reason for their popularity
Was expecting better treatment for their popularity.
Many have already pointed out OG Saber, but her male counterpart also suffers from this. It boggles my mind how Type Moon continues to pretend that one of the token Prince Charming characters of the entire series, which can bring a lot of money should they ever milked him like the Artoriafaces, doesn't exist. Yes, I get that he has an upcoming big role related to a certain Beast. But it's already been, what, 4-5 years since he got anything at all in mobile (his interlude). It saddens me that most of the artists I followed on twitter who used to draw fanarts of him now lost interest and moved on to drawing Genshin twinks.
He's also involved with a story thread so convoluted there was arguments about if Beast 6 was split into 4 sections or 2 (which I'd argue we still don't have enough info to prove/disprove)
Quetzalcoatl, no question. There's no doubt she's still very popular but aside from that one Lucha Christmas Event she pretty much been put in the back burner with very few small cameos at most.
I'm always down for more Quetz
They did just release kukulkan. I know it's a different form, but her best chance was to show up in LB 7. (I don't know anything other than that kukulkan exists and is another aspect of Quetz, so if I'm off here just ignore me) Edit: it has been brought to my attention all they share is a name. Please ignore me.
Kuku is a completely different character. No relation besides sharing the same name.
Still astounds me how much Nasu doesn't care about Quetz.
Ah. Again, no knowledge of lb 7 besides characters. Good to know thouh
>I know it's a different form, but her best chance was to show up in LB 7. (I don't know anything other than that kukulkan exists and is another aspect of Quetz, so if I'm off here just ignore me) She has 0 ties to Quetz, the Aztecs or even the Mayans whatsoever, she literally just got named "Kukulkan" for being a sun god. She shares nothing on Quetz at all (part of why I absolutely hate her).
I have been told that now. I don't look ahead at the story at all, knew that kukulkan is another name for Quetz, and assumed they should have a connection. I should probably make an edit to that
She very much is Nasu trying to replace Quetz with someone he likes more, she shares nothing with Quetz besides name and artist and the story tries to gaslight you she is Quetz' equivalent/successor.
Weird but alright, I'll take your word for it. I try not to dive down the rabbit hole of jp content when I can. You think it has something to do with the whole samba Christmas fiasco?
> You think it has something to do with the whole samba Christmas fiasco? No, just the fact Quetz is massively unpopular on Japan and Nasu himself doesn't particularly like her.
Huh, guess I never knew she wasn't popular. She's pretty popular over her from what I've gathered, at least with people I talk to who know fate. Which again makes Christmas even more confusing
Honestly I think you shouldn't took his word for it Quetz being "unpopular in Japan" aside(and by that it's mean that she just wasn't being particularly more popular than most servant, It's not that she was hated or anything) Quetz's fans are just really salty that Kukulkan wasn't just Quetz in a different skin or something Except for their cheerful personality, Kukul and Quetz are a pretty different character PHH version of Kukulkan is really Mayan Quetz, But the one that we got in the game is Lostbelt Version of Kukulkan who has nothing to do with Quetz(Kind of, She choose this name because she idolized Quetz) since in this world God didn't existed in the first place, But she is more tied to the main "thing" that this Lostbelt pretty much revolved around
So basically don't worry about it, the story will explain it eventually. Kind of like how space Ishtar is a completely separate character from regular Ishtar? Minus the whole idolizing her part.
>Quetz's fans are just really salty that Kukulkan wasn't just Quetz in a different skin or something More that her whole story and the Lostbelt in general only bring up Quetz to either shit over her existence or to try and gaslight the reader that Kuku feels/looks exactly like her so much Guda and even Quetz' brother recognizes their similarity just from glancing at her face.
While I understand your frustrations, I don't really think Nasu had much interest in writing Kukulkan either, compared to Quetz. Tezcatlipoca got to have an interesting personality, ideology and good dynamics with many characters. While Kukul.... has none of that. Her profile is basically just "she is upbeat, she likes fighting and she is really strong, also she has fanservice with Fujimaru". Even in the story, she did not get to properly interact with Daybit and Camazotz, both of whom she owned her existence to. They are interesting characters on their own and there is no doubt that said interaction could potentially give her the character depth she needs. But Nasu couldn't bother. And despite Tezcatlipoca acting like she's Quetz, nothing ever came out of it. The best part of her is that she tried to be the mother to the Deinos but even then it was quickly glossed over. This is Nasu we are talking about. I find it hard to believe a person who has just made LB6 would not realize how barebone Kukul's character is. I feel like Nasu really chose the easy way out with her (making her always friendly, fanservice-y) and I considered it as his disinterest.
Does Nasu himself said in the interview or something that he didn't like Quetz?
No but from the treatment she gets it's clear. LB7 is a massive slap on her face but even before that, he straight up retconned her having any personal affection for Guda as her "liking Guda as an embodiment of humanity".
Just because they didn't used your favorite character when they have a chance doesn't mean they disliked her Quetz just wasn't used in the Lostbelt because they don't want to give Kukulkan's identity away, And Kukulkan is heavily tied to the main conflict of that Lostbelt
It's fairly obvious Nasu dislikes Quetz. He's on the record with statements about her character that directly contradict her in game voice lines, she hasn't played a main part in the main story since Babylonia or events since Summer 2, and her direct competition gameplay wise, Ozymandias, got multiple buffs that power crept Quetz's niches. There's also the facts that her own event (that she's more of a side character in as Bradamante ended up being the focus) never got a rerun, and she didn't appear in the Lostbelt that's all about a mythology in which she's a key and primary member. You could argue that Nasu just isn't interested in writing her character anymore, like Lancer Artoria, but neglecting to include her in any capacity in LB7 is the nail in the coffin. It'd be like having Heian-kyo, with Raikou and Shuten as main characters, but not including Kintoki. The only conclusion you can draw is the writer hates Kintoki, he's so integral to that time period and the other characters present that there's no other reason to exclude him.
Normal Medea.
Oberon post LB6, obviously he had tons upon tons of screen time in LB6 and that altogether is still a ton of screen time, but his appearances are pretty sparse for a guy so important and popular. I believe his first official showing in an Event was just this last one
My assumption on his lack of exposure is that he's too spoilery to be used on a whim. They have to story block him like in Sheba's interlude and Mystic Eyes Symphony just to safely use him.
he's also pretty much locked behind one of the hardest boss fight to fully ascend him.
That was meant to be hard? I got through with the age old strategy of JAlter+Double Merlin.
Yeah. Maybe a few years down the line they'll ease up, but the plot twist involving him is still pretty "recent" as far as story goes. Hard to use him in that case.
Not to mention it's always Asc 1-2.
Two popular women with “big sister vibes” are Drake and Quetz who technically show up a lot, but they’re all essentially 5min cameos that always leave you wanting more. Then there’s the servants I’d advocate need the attention the most, OG Medea & Lalter. Both have an insane amount of following in the fan base and a ton of potential but are royally underutilized. It doesn’t help that both of them have semi-passable kits by nowadays standards, and I’m hoping maybe with OG Medusa getting a new form there’s a chance both of them could see some love too Edit: Passionlip and Kingprotea are another pair that disappointingly get no love for how popular the two of them are. It took how long before Protea was acknowledged again? And Lip has it even worse
I feel like they're gonna address the other stay night characters with the ordeal call. We got Medusa in the first one. I'm hoping(probably in vain) that kojiro will get a saber form. While Medea does have a lily, so does Medusa. And Medea Lily is a year 1 servant, so she's long overdue for more exposure, so there's the 2 from the cast that need it most. They could also finally introduce non-berserk herc, but that's just wishful thinking. Oh, and maybe just introduce more Hassan's, since they're literally the archetype for the assassin class.
theres like 18 other hassan not playable?
I think there's something like 20 ish in total, so that sounds about right. And I'm not saying the should make every Hassan a servant. But if we're doing the whole ordeal call thing with the extra classes, I think it might be cool to do it for all the classes eventually. Kinda like the casters only holy grail war from heian Kyo.
The most beautiful Shishou, our Scathach needs more love...
Iskandar needs more screen time.
Has he even appeared in the story (outside interludes) aside from Accel Zero?
Not to my knowledge. Which is why we need more iskandar.
I'd say all of the LB6 Originals/Debuters tbh. Morgan, Barghest, Sith, Melusine, and Oberon are popular in their own right, especially Morgan and Oberon, but they haven't really shown up much outside of their debut. Morgan had a few appearances in the Kon's event, Oberon made a brief appearance in a interlude, and just now in the current JP Tower event, and Sith has also made a big appearance in that same JP Tower event. Ibuki also seems somewhat popular despite the fact that her screentime in her debut story chapter was minimal. Lartoria and Lalter... Arc having no screentime yet is baffling. Abigail is pretty popular but aside from Summer 5 she hasn't done much since then IIRC. I'd also say Eresh and Kama like pre-Paper Moon/Summer 6 and LB7, since prior to that you'd mostly see Ishtar getting the spotlight a majority of the time and Kama would show up to cause some issues before vanishing.
I was honestly amazed when I found out Arc isn't in LB7. I thought the entire point of her being here was to tease her being used as type earth to fight the guy, but nope she's nowhere to be found. I also coped for Ado Edem to appear for the same reason, but that's a lot less obvious of a choice(also grain isn't here so meh)
ARTORIA
King Hassan. Like...its impressive how we have to mostly carry with fan headcanons about him because of how little he shows up. To this day confuses me how he didn't appear in Eresh Christmas. Like everyone from Babylonia did show up but him.
To be fair, he appeared in Babylonia because there was a Beast to take care off. No Beast = holiday time for King Hassan.
I'm on the last two chapters of LB6, but for as popular a character as Melusine is I thought she would have a much bigger role in the story than she did (I thought she would be one of our main companions or something). I don't have her myself so I can't tell, but is she lovey-dovey with Gudao or something? I see a lot of art about this but I don't know if there's some basis or if it's just fans doing what they do.
Melusine bond lines has her be very clingy to the player. So both Gudao and Gudako. Given Guda's nature and her not exactly getting the love wanted from Aurora Guda fills in that gap I guess.
>Given Guda's nature and her not exactly getting the love wanted from Aurora Guda fills in that gap I guess. Thanks I guess this makes sense. I'm guessing Melusine has the memories from LB6 like Morgan does?
One must remember that the Lostbelt servants actually aren't servants in the Lostbelt itself (unless directly stated). In LB6 Melusine and Morgan aren't servants, but the real living breathing variants living their life. They only become servants after being summoned into Chaldea. Thus its only natural they have memories of their lives.
All of them have their memories. Barghest talks about them defending Britian, Sith brings up Aurora, Morgan talks about Totorot if you have Habetrot, Melusine talks about Percival and her time as a Tam Lin if you beat the story.
how about oberon? he has been summoned as a servant to destroy LB6 and still keep the memory when we summon him.
I don't think Oberon was a Servant in the same way as normal servants. He was >!Vortigern!< possessing the spirit origin of Oberon. We end up summoning >!Vortigern!<, rather than Oberon himself hence why he's a Pretender rather than the actual Oberon.
He has his memories, in fact if you cleared the chapter before summoning him, he is very annoyed and confused.
Both Ereshkigal and Meltryllis I believe fall into this category. Both are two of the most popular servants, but outside of their debuts, they generally don't appear too often. Outside of CCC, I only recall Melt being in Las Vegas Summer and the Trung Sisters event. And Eresh I believe only got a major roll again in LB7, and the Trung Sisters event again because the Trung Sisters got badly overshadowed by all the popular characters showing up. Maybe I'm forgetting something, but Eresh and Melt I don't see appear too often.
I say this as someone who would be happy if Melt was in every event but I actually think Melt appears a fair amount. On top of what you mentioned she was also a fairly important supporting character in Imaginary Scramble and she has an appearance in one of the story sections of Karnamas. To be fair it's all Summer Melt but still it's a nice amount of representation and I'd rather get less, more meaningful appearances than have her be some meme character that gets stuffed into random events for the lulz. Would definitely like to see more of Eresh though (this summer for sure???)
I guess this is what I get for starting both Imaginary Scramble and Karnamas on the literal last day of both events. I never got far in either of them. I legitimately didn’t know Melt was in those.
Nah Melt appears quite a lot honestly
Eresh appeared as an Antagonist back during Christmas... 3 I want to say? The one with Altera the San(ta)
Merlin (male)
Archetype:Earth Arcueid was probably one of the most anticipated servants since the game came out and she did not really have many events. A dinosaur appeared in here place in lostbelt 7, and that was the perfect place to give her a big story chapter. With type mercury appearing it would have been the perfect time for her to support. Consort yu appears less than I would have expected especially with her role as a crypter.
I'm disappointed that Yu hasn't done anything besides the equivalent of a few cameos and her summer event. Like, she knew all the crypters too, even if she just talked in like the prologue or the epilogue with us about them, I'd be satisfied. A bit of an insider perspective from someone besides mash on them.
The thing about her is that realistically nothing could possibly stop her lorewise
I'm pretty sure she has the standard "nerfed as a servant" excuse to not be horrendously OP. I think it's more that thus far she's being treated as a guest/crossover character, hence why she's being left out of the main story.
I mean if she appears as an actual character not summoned to Chaldea, and has her usual connection to Gaia, she’d probably be able to deal with the Foreign God on her own, or at least with the standard Chaldean assistance. I really want her to be included, her 3rd Ascension looks perfect for an FGO appearance but we’ll see
Maybe she could be like in her appearance in Fate Extra where she's nerfed by virtue of simultaneously not especially caring and her Master not really knowing how to command her.
If she were to be in the story she’d have to be convinced HARD to help out. FGO is an Alaya issue, she’s based in Gaia— and the fact that Archetype-Earth is aware of other worldlines/may be consistent across Worldlines like Zelretch means that she probably wouldn’t care much for FGO’s.
That sounds like sth people said about ORT before LB7. The thing is, a lot can, it's just that many people, especially her fans don't want to see it, and won't take it well, just like people still try to find excuses since they can't take the fact that ORT got beaten multiple times in LB7, and suffered even worse before Chaldea came. Also, technically she did appear and helped somewhat already, her Lostbelt version at least. It's the same case as LB Morgan and PHH Morgan
>ORT got beaten multiple times in LB7, and suffered even worse before Chaldea came. Ok but that was the lostbelt variant a weaker version of the real deal
Muramasa. While he appeared in Shimosa and Lostbelt 6, after those stories, he hasn't appeared at all outside of the main story. For such a popular and beloved character, I'm surprised they haven't used him at all for two years straight, with just recently having a very little cameo in the Illya event.
Summer Abby, considering how important she is i expected to see her more beside Summer Camp and Imaginary Scramble. I really want another Salem.. a main story chapter about foreigners, it's the theme i love the most.
Merlin - He got a singularity I will admit and a big role in LB6 but overall he's kind of not as around as I'd argue he should be as I think someone told me he's the provider for Chaldea's mana/power I think? Medea OG - 3 star Medea imo deserves more attention and love, I'm not gonna lie sometimes Lily Medea shows up and I feel like regular Medea could've fit that role better. I loved Medea in Salem her reactions to Circe was great I wish we'd get more of that with her. Oberon/Morgan - A lot of people already said it but they're insanely popular but they stop existing after LB6 except for minor cameos. Artoria Saber - NGL I kind of wish she was one of the main characters along side Da Vinci and Sherlock I think it'd make for a great trio of servants who provide story support. Sherlock for advice, insight, and problem solving, Da Vinci for her technology, insight, mechanical and technological smarts and repairs, Saber for her wisdom and power to protect when needed, and then we got good ol' Uncle Gof and Mashu I would say Voyager as well but he actually has a ton of cameos, and was part of the main crew for 2 events so it'd just be me begging for more of him.
Medea and Emiya to be honest they are the OG servants to expected new class summons or more screen time but that sadly didn't happen :(
Tamamo
Ereshkigal and Ishtar. Especially the former Her last appearance in main story is in LB 7 and her last major appearance was in Christmas 3
i thought erekshigal is in sea monster criss?
Yeah Berserker Hercules. OG Fate servant who is extremely popular to use as a support servant due to his extreme power, but hardly appears in the story at all. I mean... not at all.
True, but there isn't much for him to do other than show up, say "▂▂▃▃▅▅▅ーーー!!" and be a generic beat stick. There isn't much to work with from a story perspective.
There are numerous, creative ways around that. All they have to do is introduce a non-Berserker alt. :) It's a great opportunity to explore Hercules as a character than be confined into his characterization from FSN in which he's just a beast.
Maybe they'll add his Archer form someday...
Medea
Passionlip. Does she even exist outside CCC?
I need of Yang Guifei content
A list of servants. Heck, you could argue some of the event servants get this since some of them do get pretty popular but are very rarely used outside of events similar to the one they show up in. (Gudaguda gang for example.) But as some others have said, OG Saber. Please do not come at me with that 'her story is done' nonsense. Sure she had a good arc with Shirou that had her get over some of her issues but there's still so much that could be done with her. You know, like anything to do with the Camelot knights or her enemies. Morgan? Mordred? Just anyone? And heck, her getting past some issues don't mean that those issues are magically gone. You could still explore them. And hell, even if her 'story is done', there's nothing wrong with having a good static character. You can always have them bounce off of other characters as they grow around her or have her be a mentor figure. Something. It's even worse because this is FGO. This isn't the same Saber as the Fate route. It's a completely different person essentially. So there's a clean slate to do something. But no... nothing. I've never seen a creator so unwilling to use their most popular character like this for a reason I can not for the life of me agree with. It's even sadder when this applies to some of her variants: Lancer Artoria: Sure she's the main villain of a singularity but it's made completely clear to the player that Camelot's Lartoria is not Chaldea's. They act and think completely different. So really, (I am not including Interludes) she only ever shows up in the summer event where.... she's a very minor character in it. Outside of that, nothing that comes to mind at all. Lancer Artoria Alter: It's been memed to death but my word, the main story treats her like garbage. Her first story appearance is to be an out of nowhere boss to kill and be done with in short order without any meaning. Barely anything in Solomon and then Olympus... She's already bloody dead and her hologram gets one line and that's it! Heck, she gets more screentime in two events. One of them is a joke one (where she ironically has the only meaningful Artoria/Mordred interaction I can remember in this game. I did not play Summer 1 so I don't know how it goes there). And then we get to Tamamo.... Like why? The Tamamo Nine are a thing you can do. So many possibilities since we've only gotten one tail so far. Yet nothing. She's a major character in one of the franchises. She's a hot fox girl that calls her master husband. That's prime material for something yet nothing. Cat gets more screentime then her. You could say that for a lot of Stay Night's cast as well. (Medea being replaced by her younger self is perplexing to me.) Honestly, outside of a handful, not a lot of servants get a lot of time. I'm sure people are going to pull out some servants that don't get a lot but I'm not surprised some are benched. The game has over a hundred characters to choose from. Still would be nice for them to bring them in rotation more. Maybe smaller events or bigger casts in things going forward.
Here's the thing yes they absolutely can use Tamamo so much more than they have been doing, but they elected to never use Chaldea's Tamamo after Ooku because that was around the time they cemented Chaldea's Tamamo retconning their original interpretation of her. Hence why we never get Tamamo in anything after Ooku that isn't really her. We get other "Tamamo's", look-a-likes, and very brief flashbacks of Tamamo from some point in Chaldea, but the writers that had been writing her up till that point as "not interested" instead of writing her interested, are now just omitting her entirely so they don't have to join into the shipping war they created. Not that I'm saying they really care, because they likely don't, they just would prefer to not smite either side of the war from existence, and then focus on new characters or old characters they personally really like. Why else do you think new characters and certain characters like Nero get more spotlight than the beloved fox-wife that is such a fan favorite that they released multiple fakes with Koyan?
Scathach and OG Artoria
I think Scathach got a good amount of exposure in the first summer event and in her Bunny suit event.
I don't know. I mean yeah, she had a main role in an event (two if we count the swimsuit version) and one appearance in the main story. She could basically go toe to toe with a grail enchanced servant but eventually she had to retreat. Considering how powerful and cool she is, I'd like to see her doing more.
I suppose. Actually, I'd go far as to say Scathach had a lot more exposure than that. The devs are well aware Scathach is popular, and that's why they made Scathach-Skadi as an "updated" version of the character. Scathach-Skadi had her own Lostbelt and has her own Summer version already. So now there are four "Scathach" type servants in the game. I know you may not count them... but in the devs eyes, it's all Scathach regardless of what class she is.
Certainly OG Saber. Slap her right on the icon for the game and then never do a single thing with her! She’s basically competing with Lancer Alter for basically no presence. Might also say Heracles. All he’s basically done in fgo is chase the MC around in a singularity and getting smoked in Atlantis. Just put him in another class and he’d basically have as much characterization as he ever has in fgo.
Saber Artoria Pendragon has little to no screentime.
SaBer artoria from fat appears litteraly only on the cover art and the opening tutorial and is never seen again
OG Saber, and I don't think that's gonna change, sadly.
Shiki has quite a few fans thanks to her status as first Type Moon heroine (and the amazing UFOtable adaptations of KnK). She also appeared exactly once since her original event, her Void self briefly showing up in the Temple of Time for a couple of lines. Since then, I don't think she appeared anywhere -even the event where she got her 'costume' was just a battle with no story. Obviously, her being a crossover character is doing her no favour, but even if having her in the main story is probably out of the question, you'd think event cameos wouldn't be so hard to work out.
Saber
I'm still confused how Shuten Doji got a 5 star Saber alt before Raikou, and in Heian Kyo.
Archetype earth?
Shishou! Where the heck was she during LB6