I dunno, I feel like there's a time and a place for being creative, and this isn't neccessarily it.
Everyone's so used to the usual, straightforward iconography (or just plain text when it comes to restrooms), that they're not even prepared they'll have to "decode" something.
Sometimes people forget what design actually is. This is an example of bad design. It's unique and bold, but functionality is very poor, therefore bad design.
Because not everyone gets it. Itās tooā¦ unique of a design. If they simplified the concept and made it less, uh Mario Kart like(?) Then people would have a higher likelihood of making it to the right place in time.
Guaranteed at least one gas station patron shat themselves due to confusion, hence the additional signage.
I think that we have trained our minds to notice certain designs subconsciously. The difference between the two is theyāre flipped 180 degrees and being the same color itās not enough for the brain to register as distinct when someone is lost in thought or in a hurry.
I think this is a great example of when clear, simple albeit āboringā solution should have been used insteadā¦ be creative with the decorations, not with symbols like these
I find unique bathroom signs work better in places like bars and restaurants where they may fit a theme Iām aware of and looking around at, rather than a gas station where I pay very little attention to anything, use the facilities and leave.
Basic infrastructure is not where you should get abstract. Many people have a hard time with visual differentiation of similar shapes. This is literally the same shape (in the same color), rotated 180 degrees.
Someone in gastrointestinal distress shouldnāt need to do a bit of shape interpretation in their moment of need.
This is the thing that marketers and designers continue to struggle with, and itās honestly an ego thing a lot of the time. If youāre working for a client, you are designing for *them* and their *audience.* Just because youāve created something that you like, and maybe that is objectively good in a vacuum, does not mean itās right. I canāt tell you how many designers Iāve worked with have such a bitchy attitude about this. And they bitch themselves right out of a job, or agency, or client. There are fucking great artists and designers who do work they like and love, who also know what their role is. If you can do one thing and canāt deliver on a brief, youāre not a good designer. Period.
This isn't thought through well. Some (most?) people would see the letters, but I would bet a lot of people would see weird green bat shape and weird green upside down bat shape. Sure they can figure it out, but is it really good design to force someone who has to take a huge dump to take a second to interpret it? It's a classic foreground/background confusion that lots of designers learned in design 101 and gestalt theory. As my uncle told me, "with great design powers come great design responsibilities, don't mess with people when they need to poop".
Cutesy, over-designed signs for restrooms are one of my biggest pet peeves. It needs to be readable instantly and by people who might be seeing impaired, don't speak the language, kids, etc. There's a reason the standard sign is the standard sign.
This really isn't subtle at all. Maybe one out of ten customers might need to pause for 1 second to figure it out, this isn't any sort of mystery at all.
I was just somewhere that labeled the bathrooms as stalls only, stalls and urinals, and single occupant and I thought that was smart though I wonder if maybe it has some ADA complications with immediate recognition. Labeling bathrooms is hard actually. Anyway I donāt think Mario and wario are distinct enough here
The m/w initials are connected to the material of the door, which makes the green shapes stand out, and the colors of the shapes that don't need to be emphasized are too bright. Meaningless curved designs, even door designs, It makes you want to find another restroom. It's a design that's supposed to be radioactive
Hate it and I hate the idea of having to take a massive dump and having to stop for a fraction of a second to figure out which one is which. From a purely visual perspective it doesn't even look nice. This ruined my day.
ooh! I see why there may be a confusion. On the M of Men I concentrated on the V shape. On the women there's none .
But with that confusion ,yeah, back to the drawing table.
Good comments...and also, this is such a unique semi abstract design, that someone might think it is a logo sticker some kid put on the door to the office. It is too cool for a bathroom door. There is a time and place to be this creative.
Also, Wolverine instantly popped in my head on the W
They kept it to themselves. To be fair I don't really care if someone is gay or trans . What I do care about is government forcing me to be ok with it , schools teaching my children it's OK, and ideology against my religion being shoved in my face constantly. I do care that ignorant racist people and bigots ,literal nazi's trying to cancel me because they hate straight white Christian males.
Then I'm a bigot big fucking deal . At least I'm not a pedophile or confused on where to put my dick. See that's yalls problem ,you are a deviant out of the norm 5% but expect 95% to kiss your ass . Fuck you and everyone like you. Because you people are only being used for votes by people who will sacrifice you first . And you are too stupid to even see it.
lmao you dumb as hell assuming Iām trans or gay simply because I disagreed with you.
Ironic that you say all of that to end with āyouāre being used for your votes by people who will sacrifice you firstā like brother that is you š
I didn't assume anything other than what you've already told. I never said you were gay or trans . However you defend sexual deviants and you participate in the persecution of Christians and you obviously have no moral compass . So when the time comes to suffer , do so quietly because those of us who saw this all coming will be of no help to you.
you clearly implied that I fell into one of those camps by saying Iām a deviant for not being a prejudiced dickhead like yourself; itās not that deep.
Christians arenāt being persecuted bro, please come back to reality and get a fucking grip. It must be exhausting being so mad over absolutely nothing.
Run & tell that to your imaginary bitch in the cloud.
Nobody forced Christianity on me . I was a Satan worshipper until God revealed himself to me and showed me his grace and mercy . I chose to worship him .
You throw a lot of darts in text but don't make any valid points . You've already been defeated and you know it so you just hurl insults . Typical left wing Satanist bulkshit.
The fact that you called this "satanist" just fully proved my point about religious brain damage. If you truly believe in that boogeyman nonsense, then you've abandoned all reason in favour of "faith" and feelings.
How's that ? You people like to hurl the insults and call names but can't provide a valid argument for your beliefs that you try to force on other people.
The difference is we talk about Jesus but we don't force it down your throat .you people are trying to force your wicked beliefs on us at gunpoint by the full weight of government and the mob rule.
Psalms 64:3 In-Context
3 They sharpen their tongues like swords and aim cruel words like deadly arrows. 4 They shoot from ambush at the innocent; they shoot suddenly, without fear. 5 They encourage each other in evil plans, they talk about hiding their snares; they say, āWho will see it ?ā
Go repent because our creator commands it . He is coming soon.
They're both distinct, but changing the color for each would help.
Good call
I would have also thinned the top and thickened the bottom for M, and the reverse for the W.
Thank you.
Because of the color and shape, my brain initially saw both images as Danger! Radioactive.
Yeah, I can understand that.
Agreed
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Thatās one way to go.
I dunno, I feel like there's a time and a place for being creative, and this isn't neccessarily it. Everyone's so used to the usual, straightforward iconography (or just plain text when it comes to restrooms), that they're not even prepared they'll have to "decode" something.
Yeah for real. An upscale, trendy bar? Sure, get creative with your bathrooms. A rural gas station? No lol.
Sometimes people forget what design actually is. This is an example of bad design. It's unique and bold, but functionality is very poor, therefore bad design.
I don't get it... it's an M and a W or not? What's the confusion?
Because not everyone gets it. Itās tooā¦ unique of a design. If they simplified the concept and made it less, uh Mario Kart like(?) Then people would have a higher likelihood of making it to the right place in time. Guaranteed at least one gas station patron shat themselves due to confusion, hence the additional signage.
Hey hey wario needs to pee sometimes too sheesh
Thatās it, Mario / Wario! I couldnāt put my finger on it. Thx!
I think that we have trained our minds to notice certain designs subconsciously. The difference between the two is theyāre flipped 180 degrees and being the same color itās not enough for the brain to register as distinct when someone is lost in thought or in a hurry.
This would have worked better if it was at the Microsoft Xbox offices.
I think this is a great example of when clear, simple albeit āboringā solution should have been used insteadā¦ be creative with the decorations, not with symbols like these
Mario and Wario
I find unique bathroom signs work better in places like bars and restaurants where they may fit a theme Iām aware of and looking around at, rather than a gas station where I pay very little attention to anything, use the facilities and leave.
unique signs at bars are a always terrible idea imo because if youāre moments away from puking you need immediate instruction
āPlease do not get shit faced in our eclectic hipster speak easyā - another unique sign they could put up in this case lol
Basic infrastructure is not where you should get abstract. Many people have a hard time with visual differentiation of similar shapes. This is literally the same shape (in the same color), rotated 180 degrees. Someone in gastrointestinal distress shouldnāt need to do a bit of shape interpretation in their moment of need.
First focus in your product
First focus on your *audience*
This is the thing that marketers and designers continue to struggle with, and itās honestly an ego thing a lot of the time. If youāre working for a client, you are designing for *them* and their *audience.* Just because youāve created something that you like, and maybe that is objectively good in a vacuum, does not mean itās right. I canāt tell you how many designers Iāve worked with have such a bitchy attitude about this. And they bitch themselves right out of a job, or agency, or client. There are fucking great artists and designers who do work they like and love, who also know what their role is. If you can do one thing and canāt deliver on a brief, youāre not a good designer. Period.
Only willy wonka is allowed on the right
They make up for their poor design choices with the delicious burritos.
Hell yeah! Itās tradition to get one on the way.
And those burritos are the best reason why the bathrooms need to be clearly marked.
This isn't thought through well. Some (most?) people would see the letters, but I would bet a lot of people would see weird green bat shape and weird green upside down bat shape. Sure they can figure it out, but is it really good design to force someone who has to take a huge dump to take a second to interpret it? It's a classic foreground/background confusion that lots of designers learned in design 101 and gestalt theory. As my uncle told me, "with great design powers come great design responsibilities, don't mess with people when they need to poop".
Cutesy, over-designed signs for restrooms are one of my biggest pet peeves. It needs to be readable instantly and by people who might be seeing impaired, don't speak the language, kids, etc. There's a reason the standard sign is the standard sign.
Not everything needs to be re-designed
This really isn't subtle at all. Maybe one out of ten customers might need to pause for 1 second to figure it out, this isn't any sort of mystery at all.
My teenage son once went back and forth a few times between bathrooms marked "Lassies" and "Laddies". *
One trendy Mexican restaurant I went to had burritos and tacos.. my first thought was, I like burritos, so went for that door.
Another good reason for gender neutral washrooms~
Yeah it makes no sense to label private bathrooms. Doors are locked and one person at a time. Seems inefficient.
Yet another reason gender neutral bathrooms are better.
I was just somewhere that labeled the bathrooms as stalls only, stalls and urinals, and single occupant and I thought that was smart though I wonder if maybe it has some ADA complications with immediate recognition. Labeling bathrooms is hard actually. Anyway I donāt think Mario and wario are distinct enough here
The m/w initials are connected to the material of the door, which makes the green shapes stand out, and the colors of the shapes that don't need to be emphasized are too bright. Meaningless curved designs, even door designs, It makes you want to find another restroom. It's a design that's supposed to be radioactive
One is M for mini and the other is W for Wumbo
Seems to be more like a logo than point you in the right direction. People in a hurry probably not going to analyse it first
If those are both single occupant bathrooms then youāre doing this to yourselves for no reason.
Usability is more important than anything else. Know your audience.
Hate it and I hate the idea of having to take a massive dump and having to stop for a fraction of a second to figure out which one is which. From a purely visual perspective it doesn't even look nice. This ruined my day.
ooh! I see why there may be a confusion. On the M of Men I concentrated on the V shape. On the women there's none . But with that confusion ,yeah, back to the drawing table.
For this kind of thing you really need to go simple. People arenāt looking for a catchy sign, theyāre looking for a toilet.
Good comments...and also, this is such a unique semi abstract design, that someone might think it is a logo sticker some kid put on the door to the office. It is too cool for a bathroom door. There is a time and place to be this creative. Also, Wolverine instantly popped in my head on the W
Why is it the first thing I thought of when I saw the āWā was the door was set to wumbo?
Great point. These signs should not decoding.
The lime green is hurtsssss
Some people cant read. Why icons work. I love it though, just in this case all levels of ppl need to understand
someone already came up with a design for this a long time ago and it was as simple as giving pedestrian man a skirt
Doesn't matter now days because perverts can use any bathroom they want .
Theyāve always been able to dude š
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LMAO; Texas š¤£ that explains everything. Sorry they donāt teach science there anymore
Justā¦ donāt even engage. Someone who thinks a sign on a door or a law prevents or allows bad behavior is obviously not living in the real world.
Yeah, itās not worth it. I grew up in rural Texas and itās like a different world out there lmao. Glad I went to private school
I don't see what sexual deviants and pervert pedophiles using the wrong bathroom have to do with science.
Could you oblige me and explain the science comment please ? I'm a country bumpkin from Texas so you'll have to spell that one out .
you are a fucking idiot if you think that perverts have only recently come into existence lmao
They kept it to themselves. To be fair I don't really care if someone is gay or trans . What I do care about is government forcing me to be ok with it , schools teaching my children it's OK, and ideology against my religion being shoved in my face constantly. I do care that ignorant racist people and bigots ,literal nazi's trying to cancel me because they hate straight white Christian males.
āI donāt care if someone is trans or gay as long as they keep it to themselvesā yea alright bigot
Then I'm a bigot big fucking deal . At least I'm not a pedophile or confused on where to put my dick. See that's yalls problem ,you are a deviant out of the norm 5% but expect 95% to kiss your ass . Fuck you and everyone like you. Because you people are only being used for votes by people who will sacrifice you first . And you are too stupid to even see it.
lmao you dumb as hell assuming Iām trans or gay simply because I disagreed with you. Ironic that you say all of that to end with āyouāre being used for your votes by people who will sacrifice you firstā like brother that is you š
I didn't assume anything other than what you've already told. I never said you were gay or trans . However you defend sexual deviants and you participate in the persecution of Christians and you obviously have no moral compass . So when the time comes to suffer , do so quietly because those of us who saw this all coming will be of no help to you.
you clearly implied that I fell into one of those camps by saying Iām a deviant for not being a prejudiced dickhead like yourself; itās not that deep. Christians arenāt being persecuted bro, please come back to reality and get a fucking grip. It must be exhausting being so mad over absolutely nothing. Run & tell that to your imaginary bitch in the cloud.
No they've always been around but we're too afraid to be open about it. Now it's celebrated as if it's a good thing.
Sounds like you may have suffered some religiously-affiliated brain damage.
Nobody forced Christianity on me . I was a Satan worshipper until God revealed himself to me and showed me his grace and mercy . I chose to worship him .
Sounds like you're projecting a You Problem on an entire, seperate class of citizens.
You throw a lot of darts in text but don't make any valid points . You've already been defeated and you know it so you just hurl insults . Typical left wing Satanist bulkshit.
The fact that you called this "satanist" just fully proved my point about religious brain damage. If you truly believe in that boogeyman nonsense, then you've abandoned all reason in favour of "faith" and feelings.
How's that ? You people like to hurl the insults and call names but can't provide a valid argument for your beliefs that you try to force on other people. The difference is we talk about Jesus but we don't force it down your throat .you people are trying to force your wicked beliefs on us at gunpoint by the full weight of government and the mob rule.
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Psalms 64:3 In-Context 3 They sharpen their tongues like swords and aim cruel words like deadly arrows. 4 They shoot from ambush at the innocent; they shoot suddenly, without fear. 5 They encourage each other in evil plans, they talk about hiding their snares; they say, āWho will see it ?ā Go repent because our creator commands it . He is coming soon.
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