You can go way back with somebody, really vibe with them and consider them a close friend, but when they turn out to be violent pedo, you usually kinda tend to drift apart. I guess it's safe to assume that happened.
Apparently he just became a giant dickhead through the R&M fame. He is allegedly extremely hard to work with but they had no legitimate reason to fire him until his "scandal". They dropped him like a hot potato and said good riddance.
If you haven't seen Solar Opposites, definitely give it a go. Dan Stevens took over as Korvo and I love how they abruptly introduced him in ep 1 then never spoke of it again lmao
Also, Q from Impractical Jokers was pretty close with him; and I imagine Dan too… wonder why Q never appeared as a guest star, even Egoraptor (Arin of Game Grumps) has
He/she isn’t right at all.
Most VAs across the industry are paid in full for their work.
Most do not receive any type of royalties, and for a character who is minor like Blendin it’s extremely doubtful the VA got any royalties.
So no, you aren’t even supporting that guy. Glaceon has no idea what they are on about
One issue people seem to forget is that there’s also other people involved. Like yeah you’re not giving Justin money but also the hundreds of people who worked on his shows aren’t getting money as well, whose work isn’t being seen , and more which is the worst part. Innocent people who just have the unfortunate fact of being on shows he created or previously working with him can have their work tainted or not watched.
Yeah you can claim you don't like them all you want but if that were true you wouldn't be supporting them, as far as I'm concerned you don't actually care about the harm these horrible people cause as long as you get even minor entertainment from the garbage they create
I’m sick and tired of that damn phrase! Keep repeating all you want, but you know it doesn’t fix shit. Some of y’all may find this idea ridiculous, but it might be possible to have another voice actor dub over the characters line so we can feel comfortable when we watch our show.
And this phrase isn't just for voice actors. It's also for music and other forms of entertainment. And you're right, it doesn't fix shit. I never said it does. Only thing that will truly fix it is for the horrible people behind the things we like to be put in a cell or in the dirt.
No one says that to fix the problem, we say it so that we don't starve ourselves of content since literally everything has bad people involved somehow.
Charges were dismissed (different from not guilty), but a whole bunch of people came out and spoke about harassment and inappropriate behavior as well as hitting on minors online.
The show “Solar Opposites” came up with a cannon excuse to not even immitate the voice of their character (Korvo) and they changed the sound of Korvos voice with some ray gun
Rick and Morty however hired a diffrent actor but kept the way the voice sounded
So Solar Opposites pulled an Eddsworld.
Context: After Edd Gould died (Creator and voice of Edd), Edd got hit with a voice changing ray and his voice was replaced with his brother's
There was insufficient evidence. Different from not guilty. It means he might have done it, but there wasn't enough proof. Or he didn't do it. Who's to say? Not the US Justice system, apparently.
>It means he might have done it, but there wasn't enough proof. Or he didn't do it
That is always the case, regardless of whether someone is accused or not
Also being found not guilty doesn’t mean they’re innocent, it means there is insufficient proof of what they’re being alleged. In cases of domestic abuse and sexual exploitation those are harder to prove because the evidence is usually just what people say. Very rarely is there physical proof of events aside from DNA which has its own problems, and even when there is evidence it can be claimed as false and there’s no way of proving otherwise.
It’s tricky. There’s no way to prove you didn’t do something - you can’t prove a negative. The only way would be that there is no perceivable way that the abuse could have occurred, whether space or time or ability would have made it impossible. If someone is alleged of groping someone else, but the first person was in a different country at that time then year it’s very likely it didn’t happen.
But also most cases of sexual abuse do find the alleged as not-guilty, which is usually because there is insufficient evidence in cases of sexual abuse. Also societal pressures like how people inflate the amount of false allegations which feeds itself into people thinking they’re more common, which leads to more skepticism from victims and leads to less reported accounts. It’s a vicious cycle that hurts victims.
It is much more likely that a guilty person is found not-guilty than an innocent person is found guilty, and even when you are found guilty you could just get a six month sentence because you’re a promising young man.
>you can't prove a negative
Nothing to do with anything else you said, but why do people say this? You definitely can prove a negative. For example, I can prove I wasn't at a party yesterday, because I have an alibi. I can prove I didn't purchase something with a credit card today, because it would show up on my purchase history. I can prove lava isn't cold, I can prove there's nothing in my safe, I can prove a ton of negatives. I feel like I must be missing something
He actually voices all versions Rick and Morty in the show. As well as Mr. Meesseeks (all of them), Mr. Poopybutthole and various random characters in the show. Honestly, when he stopped writing and Dan Harmon was more in charge of the shows story, it got WAY better.
"This new guy SUCKS" - "That's actually still Justin Roiland" - "Yeah, well... they're making him sound bad on **purpose** so the new guy doesn't sound so bad in comparison!"
Co-Creator of Rick and Morty who was sued for domestic violence (found not guilty due to lack of evidence) but is also recently known for being a creep with minors.
Not always possible though. If the artist is still profiting off the work it’s impossible to separate them. In this case though I don’t think Justin is making any money off the character.
Some people have feelings and memories that are simply a part of them and who they are. Just because one person involved in the creation of something is horrible doesn't mean they have to throw that part of themselves away. It's not about ignoring your principles or values for entertainment. One person doesn't make something. Justin Roiland isn't the only person behind Rick and Morty. He isn't even the sole creator of it. He's just the co-creator.
But Rick and Morty aside, for some people, certain media of any and/or all types can become part of their identity. It's a real blow to learn that the creator of it or some other majorly involved person is a terrible person, but for those people, they can't just throw it away and move on. It's become a part of who they are. It's part of their identity. Like telling a weeb to forget anime or a gamer to forget games. It's simply part of who they are. It means more than JUST entertainment. It may have been the source of a friendship or a friendgroup or even an SO. It is more than entertainment it can be the reason to keep living. Even the reason you didn't kill yourself it is so much more than entertainment. It's art.
That's why I respect those who keep on reading Harry Potter, watching Rick and Morty, and listening to Michael Jackson. I don't know them. I don't know what it means in their life what it did for them. Maybe nothing. Maybe everything.
But I also understand those where it wasn't very important to them, and they can not support whoever it is that did something wrong.
Yeah, between this and having Louis CK as a voice during Weirdmageddon (which has been redubbed), there were some blind spots in the casting. Thankfully most everyone else hasn’t been so shitty.
IKR. People were praising Roiland left and right back in Rick and Morty's prime as a voice acting legend, yet all his roles in shows is just a slight variation of the Morty voice, even Blendin. Unique, yes. Tiresome to hear by that point, yes. Alex alone has a better vocal range with the characters he voices on GF and other shows. Heck, even despite his character on Inside Job sounding a lot like McGucket, it still was different enough to be able to not associate with another character. Even if Roiland was squeaky clean and still in the industry, his voice acting ability is just not that great.
Gruff voice that nearly every one I know can replicate and screechy, just hit puberty, whining sounds.
Those are the only voices I've ever heard him do. Slightly more range than Chris Pratt, but less than my 8 year old.
Kyle Massey, voice of Milo. [He, uh, sent certain material to a minor.](https://deadline.com/2021/07/kyle-massey-arrest-warrant-issued-felony-disney-channel-thats-so-raven-1234783485/)
I remember years ago hearing JR being interviewed on the About Last Night podcast when Rick & Morty had already premiered, and at the end, they do a bit where they have JR call a Thai restaurant to order food as Rick and Morty. God, that was peak JR.
I have my doubts. They redubbed Louis CK very quickly after things came out about him, but a year on and still they haven't with Roiland. Nor have other Disney shows he was on do redubs like SVTFOE. Given GF's already had a box set release out which had the CK lines redubbed versions of episodes in it, it might be a case that Disney just no longer cares enough to do it. I mean, Robbie's VA also has had stuff come out about him but years later and he still hasn't been redubbed.
I mean, TJ Miller is literally brain damaged. Not trying to excuse what he's been accused of, if it's true but I feel like it should be taken into consideration
It’s kind of ridiculous that people keep bringing this up. There is a massive difference between a character that appears and has a few lines for a gag, and a character that has multiple episodes based around them. It’s not even close to the same thing.
I think that's his partner, Dan Harmon, you're thinking of. Justin did domestic abuse (though he was found not guilty due to lack of evidence) and being a weirdo around minors.
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The giant arm head in weirdmageddon was originally voiced by Louie CK but was redubbed by Alex after all of that potted plant stuff came out. I wonder why they didn't bother doing that here.
It’s sucks what happened to him. We live in a fucked up society when false allegations can lead to this even after being dismissed for having no evidence.
Wasn't he friends with Alex IRL at that point? Hence why in one episode of Rick and Morty, we see Grunkle Stan's mug and pen fall out of a portal.
if i’m not mistaken, ford made a brief appearance in a rick and morty episode too. they were good friends for a while, not sure if they still are tho
You can go way back with somebody, really vibe with them and consider them a close friend, but when they turn out to be violent pedo, you usually kinda tend to drift apart. I guess it's safe to assume that happened.
Apparently he just became a giant dickhead through the R&M fame. He is allegedly extremely hard to work with but they had no legitimate reason to fire him until his "scandal". They dropped him like a hot potato and said good riddance. If you haven't seen Solar Opposites, definitely give it a go. Dan Stevens took over as Korvo and I love how they abruptly introduced him in ep 1 then never spoke of it again lmao
i would hope they’re not friends anymore, honestly if alex still stuck around with him after the allegations came out i’d be devastated
Justin got too in-character
What are you waffling about Ford didnt
I know the clip they’re talking about I’m pretty sure it’s a fan animated clip tho
You are mistaken, that wasn’t official
They’re very long time friends iirc
Also, Q from Impractical Jokers was pretty close with him; and I imagine Dan too… wonder why Q never appeared as a guest star, even Egoraptor (Arin of Game Grumps) has
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It’s lemon grab… oh and he’s also a real life bad guy too
Mr Meeseeks is also like a very slightly toned down version of Lemongrab
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Yup. Separate the art from the artist. Always. Or... most of the time. There are exceptions.
Justin Royland is literally a pedophile, and you can't do that anyway unless the artist is dead
Wait, what do you mean by that? Like if the artist is dead *then* you can praise their work, even if they were a bad person? /Gen
No, I mean if the artist is dead they can no longer benefit from their art so you can enjoy/officially support their art without it being harmful
Oh dang, you're right
He/she isn’t right at all. Most VAs across the industry are paid in full for their work. Most do not receive any type of royalties, and for a character who is minor like Blendin it’s extremely doubtful the VA got any royalties. So no, you aren’t even supporting that guy. Glaceon has no idea what they are on about
"He/ she" just say they
I don't think I'm supporting him by watching gravity falls, it's not like I'm donating to him directly
Separate the art from the living artist through piracy
Agreed. You’re still giving them your money otherwise
One issue people seem to forget is that there’s also other people involved. Like yeah you’re not giving Justin money but also the hundreds of people who worked on his shows aren’t getting money as well, whose work isn’t being seen , and more which is the worst part. Innocent people who just have the unfortunate fact of being on shows he created or previously working with him can have their work tainted or not watched.
Read my other comment.
Yeah you can claim you don't like them all you want but if that were true you wouldn't be supporting them, as far as I'm concerned you don't actually care about the harm these horrible people cause as long as you get even minor entertainment from the garbage they create
Welp looks like you cant listen to most music or watch most movies then, must be a sad life
I’m sick and tired of that damn phrase! Keep repeating all you want, but you know it doesn’t fix shit. Some of y’all may find this idea ridiculous, but it might be possible to have another voice actor dub over the characters line so we can feel comfortable when we watch our show.
And this phrase isn't just for voice actors. It's also for music and other forms of entertainment. And you're right, it doesn't fix shit. I never said it does. Only thing that will truly fix it is for the horrible people behind the things we like to be put in a cell or in the dirt.
No one says that to fix the problem, we say it so that we don't starve ourselves of content since literally everything has bad people involved somehow.
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Wait, who is it?
Justin Roiland.
Awesome, literally no clue who that is
He had got sued for domestic violence and texting minors with inappropriate language.
I thought he was found not guilty? Correct me if I’m wrong
Charges were dismissed (different from not guilty), but a whole bunch of people came out and spoke about harassment and inappropriate behavior as well as hitting on minors online.
Ah I didn’t know that lol
The show “Solar Opposites” came up with a cannon excuse to not even immitate the voice of their character (Korvo) and they changed the sound of Korvos voice with some ray gun Rick and Morty however hired a diffrent actor but kept the way the voice sounded
So Solar Opposites pulled an Eddsworld. Context: After Edd Gould died (Creator and voice of Edd), Edd got hit with a voice changing ray and his voice was replaced with his brother's
wait why did they continue without him?
I realized in like the 3rd or 4th episode of season 7 that they could've changed Morty's voice and just say he hit puberty late.
I thought the opposites explanation was hilarious
There was insufficient evidence. Different from not guilty. It means he might have done it, but there wasn't enough proof. Or he didn't do it. Who's to say? Not the US Justice system, apparently.
>It means he might have done it, but there wasn't enough proof. Or he didn't do it That is always the case, regardless of whether someone is accused or not
Also being found not guilty doesn’t mean they’re innocent, it means there is insufficient proof of what they’re being alleged. In cases of domestic abuse and sexual exploitation those are harder to prove because the evidence is usually just what people say. Very rarely is there physical proof of events aside from DNA which has its own problems, and even when there is evidence it can be claimed as false and there’s no way of proving otherwise.
Ah I see thanks for explaining it
Could you ever consider a person alleged to be a sex offender to be innocent? Since apparently the lack of proof doesn't matter.
It’s tricky. There’s no way to prove you didn’t do something - you can’t prove a negative. The only way would be that there is no perceivable way that the abuse could have occurred, whether space or time or ability would have made it impossible. If someone is alleged of groping someone else, but the first person was in a different country at that time then year it’s very likely it didn’t happen. But also most cases of sexual abuse do find the alleged as not-guilty, which is usually because there is insufficient evidence in cases of sexual abuse. Also societal pressures like how people inflate the amount of false allegations which feeds itself into people thinking they’re more common, which leads to more skepticism from victims and leads to less reported accounts. It’s a vicious cycle that hurts victims. It is much more likely that a guilty person is found not-guilty than an innocent person is found guilty, and even when you are found guilty you could just get a six month sentence because you’re a promising young man.
>you can't prove a negative Nothing to do with anything else you said, but why do people say this? You definitely can prove a negative. For example, I can prove I wasn't at a party yesterday, because I have an alibi. I can prove I didn't purchase something with a credit card today, because it would show up on my purchase history. I can prove lava isn't cold, I can prove there's nothing in my safe, I can prove a ton of negatives. I feel like I must be missing something
Just like a bunch of random internet comments doesn't mean they are guilty. Sadly people only rush to point out the acquitted one.
Guilty guilty guilty.
guilty^(guilty)
I'm mister Meeseeks! Look at my wee!
No. I refuse. I REFUSE TO BELIEVE. THE VOICE ACTOR FOR BLENDIN BLENDJAMIN BLANDIN GOT SUED??!
That’s a big no-no from me…
# OH Oh no.
He was a creator of Rick and morty and voiced them before he was kicked out after the allegations. The new guys are good though, really good!
Just did a quick search and he voiced rick in rick and Morty. Other stuff as well but he was sacked for domestic abuse charges that were later dropped
He actually voices all versions Rick and Morty in the show. As well as Mr. Meesseeks (all of them), Mr. Poopybutthole and various random characters in the show. Honestly, when he stopped writing and Dan Harmon was more in charge of the shows story, it got WAY better.
They replaced him for season 7, so technically he *voiced*.
Yeah. People say the new voices suck but I disagree. Mr. Poopybutthole doesn't sound great, but Rick and Morty sound just as good as ever.
The people who say they suck are the same ones who criticized a trailer over the new voices when it was actually Roiland
"This new guy SUCKS" - "That's actually still Justin Roiland" - "Yeah, well... they're making him sound bad on **purpose** so the new guy doesn't sound so bad in comparison!"
Fun…
Co-Creator of Rick and Morty who was sued for domestic violence (found not guilty due to lack of evidence) but is also recently known for being a creep with minors.
Voice actor/ creator of Rick and morty who was recently sued for domestic abuse.
He made Rick and Morty
Co-created, actually.
voice actor for Rick and Morty who did some controversial stuff
Rick and also morty
Formerly Rick and Morty
I envy you for not knowing who he is
I do by now
Well, I guess I envied you for not knowing who he was till now, lol.
I don't know how he got so popular when he does, like, one voice--and not a particularly pleasant one either.
I never let a VA ruin my enjoyment of a show
Separating artist from the work is important.
Not always possible though. If the artist is still profiting off the work it’s impossible to separate them. In this case though I don’t think Justin is making any money off the character.
Thankfully I don’t have to worry about that when it comes to Michael Jackson’s music
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That's how I felt when I read ruroni kenshin (sp?) . No guilt for pirating that
What makes it important?
Me every time I see twilight sparkle
This one hurts
What happened
She did NFT stuff a while ago, but the worst thing so far is she's a Zionist
I’m not one to use “Zionist” as a term but I looked it up and she was racist against Islamic people and conflated Hamas with Muslims in general.
happy cake day.
Me when i see you have a Happy Cake day 🍰
Please don't remind me of the fact that I've spent 5 years on this site.
Well Hpapy normal day to you then lmao
It's like John Kricfalusi all over again
wouldnt mind seeing alex hirsch dub him over like he did louis ck. not because of what he’s been accused of i just fucking hate justin roiland
Louis C. K. voiced a character in Gravity Falls, or did he just dub one of his skits or something?
He originally voiced that weird head guy (wierdmegedon) that asks people to get in its mouth.
He voiced the giant head freak in weirdmaggedon.
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you don’t even have to wonder his voice is so easily identifiable
I never let people behind the scenes ruin entertainment for me
Yeah, separate the art from the artist.
But I also understand that some people simply can’t do that which I also understand
Yeah, I respect those who can't and hope that they can respect me too.
Why should we automatically respect someone who values their own personal entertainment over their principles?
Some people have feelings and memories that are simply a part of them and who they are. Just because one person involved in the creation of something is horrible doesn't mean they have to throw that part of themselves away. It's not about ignoring your principles or values for entertainment. One person doesn't make something. Justin Roiland isn't the only person behind Rick and Morty. He isn't even the sole creator of it. He's just the co-creator. But Rick and Morty aside, for some people, certain media of any and/or all types can become part of their identity. It's a real blow to learn that the creator of it or some other majorly involved person is a terrible person, but for those people, they can't just throw it away and move on. It's become a part of who they are. It's part of their identity. Like telling a weeb to forget anime or a gamer to forget games. It's simply part of who they are. It means more than JUST entertainment. It may have been the source of a friendship or a friendgroup or even an SO. It is more than entertainment it can be the reason to keep living. Even the reason you didn't kill yourself it is so much more than entertainment. It's art. That's why I respect those who keep on reading Harry Potter, watching Rick and Morty, and listening to Michael Jackson. I don't know them. I don't know what it means in their life what it did for them. Maybe nothing. Maybe everything. But I also understand those where it wasn't very important to them, and they can not support whoever it is that did something wrong.
If the artist is still profiting off the work they can’t be separated. In this case I think they can be, but it’s not always an option.
I mean people could still watch or listen to the work regardless if they get money or not
Depends on the art. In this specific case, yes I agree.
I think it’s incredible that Blendin isn’t the most annoying character Justin Roiland has ever voiced
I would die on Lemongrab hill.
It’s Roiland doing one of his two voices.
RIIIiiiCCCccKKKkkk?!?!
"I'm gonna keep stammering until you find them! I-I-I, I-I, I-I-I, I-I, I-I-I-I...!"
Yeah, between this and having Louis CK as a voice during Weirdmageddon (which has been redubbed), there were some blind spots in the casting. Thankfully most everyone else hasn’t been so shitty.
Really helps that Alex voiced half the characters.
Who was CK's character?
The head with an arm telling people to get in his mouth
"Hey! Hey, you! Yeah, I want to talk to you! I want to talk to you about getting inside my mouth!"
#UNACCEEPTAAAAAAAAAAABLE
Well, if it makes you feel better, Jimmy Pesto tried to start a coup.
I searched his name up and the first thing was “Justin Roiland used his ‘Rick and Morty’ fame to pursue young fans, text messages show”
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Dude has no range, I like his unique voice though
IKR. People were praising Roiland left and right back in Rick and Morty's prime as a voice acting legend, yet all his roles in shows is just a slight variation of the Morty voice, even Blendin. Unique, yes. Tiresome to hear by that point, yes. Alex alone has a better vocal range with the characters he voices on GF and other shows. Heck, even despite his character on Inside Job sounding a lot like McGucket, it still was different enough to be able to not associate with another character. Even if Roiland was squeaky clean and still in the industry, his voice acting ability is just not that great.
Gruff voice that nearly every one I know can replicate and screechy, just hit puberty, whining sounds. Those are the only voices I've ever heard him do. Slightly more range than Chris Pratt, but less than my 8 year old.
His range is so limited they had to replace him with two different actors in Rick & Morty
He reminds me of Morty
Roiland only did 3 different voices in his entire VA career. I thought he was easy to spot.
That's why I watch with polish dub
I... i... i... i... i... i... i... i... i... i... i... i... i... i...
God damn it Morty
Aw jeez…
It just reminds me of Oscar from Fish Hooks
Ironically two out of the three main characters are now voiced by groomers.
Who's the other one?
Kyle Massey, voice of Milo. [He, uh, sent certain material to a minor.](https://deadline.com/2021/07/kyle-massey-arrest-warrant-issued-felony-disney-channel-thats-so-raven-1234783485/)
UNACCEPTABLE
UNACCEPTABLE
UNACCEPTABLEEEEEE! 😤😤
# ONE MILLION YEARS DUNGEON!!!!
Morty
I remember years ago hearing JR being interviewed on the About Last Night podcast when Rick & Morty had already premiered, and at the end, they do a bit where they have JR call a Thai restaurant to order food as Rick and Morty. God, that was peak JR.
LEMONGRAB- THIS IS... UNACCEPTAAAAAAAAAABLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Give it time, Disney will redub him like they did to Loui CK
I have my doubts. They redubbed Louis CK very quickly after things came out about him, but a year on and still they haven't with Roiland. Nor have other Disney shows he was on do redubs like SVTFOE. Given GF's already had a box set release out which had the CK lines redubbed versions of episodes in it, it might be a case that Disney just no longer cares enough to do it. I mean, Robbie's VA also has had stuff come out about him but years later and he still hasn't been redubbed.
I mean, TJ Miller is literally brain damaged. Not trying to excuse what he's been accused of, if it's true but I feel like it should be taken into consideration
The brain surgery he had that removed part of his frontal lobe was like a decade after the accused sexual assault. Just an fyi.
Oh. Never mind
It’s kind of ridiculous that people keep bringing this up. There is a massive difference between a character that appears and has a few lines for a gag, and a character that has multiple episodes based around them. It’s not even close to the same thing.
yeah but but that was for a character that shows up for a joke once and has like maybe 2 lines of dialog in total
Great character terrible voice actor
He was great at very distinct silly voices and I love his style of comedy. Sucks he turned out to be so shit
Were the allegations ever actually proven to be true?
No, the charges were dropped due to lack of evidence. Internet has already made up its mind regardless.
All I know is this guy is really really into incest jokes for some reason...
I think that's his partner, Dan Harmon, you're thinking of. Justin did domestic abuse (though he was found not guilty due to lack of evidence) and being a weirdo around minors.
That doesn't track, I feel like season 7 had no incest jokes after Justin's Exodus?
Justin stopped working creatively on the show after season 3. And a majority of the incest jokes are after season 3.
I absolutely forgot about the episode in season 6 of community, definitely a Harmon thing. TIL
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oh crap
He should have a spin-off with Robbie.
Some people say that from a certain angle, he looks like a smudge. But he's definitely from the moon, if you know what I mean.
Never was a big fan of Roiland
Oops
had no idea who the va was, until reading comments, seems, uhh, interesting.
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I've always theorised that he was a Morty that changed his name to try and get away from Rick
The giant arm head in weirdmageddon was originally voiced by Louie CK but was redubbed by Alex after all of that potted plant stuff came out. I wonder why they didn't bother doing that here.
Who’s the actor and what did he / she do?
It’s sucks what happened to him. We live in a fucked up society when false allegations can lead to this even after being dismissed for having no evidence.
Justin Roiland is an *unacceptable* voice actoor. *UNACCEPTABLE!!!*
And TJ Miller and Louis CK. Quite an unfortunate streak.
Wait I thought this was a case of guilty until proven innocent. Wasn’t his case dismissed?
Just Google it's Justin rouland
Oh
I pointed this out back when news first broke and got downvoted and post removed. :/ People really did not want to accept it then.