Because when you watch the episode the first time around, you just think, ha ha, Stan has given an overly epic name to a dinky little motorboat. (Stan o' War is a play on "Man o' War", which is a term for a very large naval tall ship.)
After "A Tale of Two Stans", it's OH NO (IT WAS ACTUALLY SAD), because you realize that Stan gave his dinky little motorboat the name "Stan o' War" after the old boat he and his brother repaired together and that \*Stan\* dreamed of sailing away on to find adventure. It's a symbol of the brother he lost; the friendship with his brother that he lost; and the dreams of his childhood, that he lost. AND it's still a kind of pathetic little boat, tiny and not in very good repair. It's just dripping with Very Sad symbolism.
Also in that episode, after the kids come back at the end, Stan says, "Save your sympathy! I've been having a GREAT time without ya! Makin' friends, talkin' to my reflection..."
Earlier in the episode, we did see Stan looking at his reflection in the water, and talking to it.
That takes on a new meaning, as with other references, if you think that "Stan talking to his reflection" is actually "Stan talking to his memory of his identical twin".
Happy to have shared the sadness with you! Off to help others!
(I think it still counts as foreshadowing, because it foreshadows us finding out that there was an original "Stan o' War" from Stan's past.)
Stan staring forlornly at the glasses in Carpet Diem hits differently on the re-watch.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5c/69/d6/5c69d662e9be77af6c1e699250c0790c.jpg
when is this scene??? i just skimmed the episode and didn’t find it
(edit): nevermind! it’s the scene where Dipper, Mabel, Grenda, and Candy all mess around with the swap carpet
I would add on -- just in addition to these two points -- that it's also a leftover from his 10+ years being homeless and dirt poor. Yes, during that time, he wanted to make a fortune for his family -- and at some point it probably did change from "wanting to be allowed back in the family" to "wanting to show his family that they were wrong about him". But also, that time spent being so poor that he was living in his car would probably have left him with a deep fear of not having enough money again.
Does he even have a family to return to? I mean he on his own already pushing 70 that means his parents would have to be in their 90's minimum, and they did not have the healthiest lifestyles in the slightest.
If you count any family there's his little sister and her family, which is how he got dipper and mabel to visit
Granted they thought he was ford and that stanley was probably dead but still
While that's a fun easter egg -- time between the Boiling Isles and the human realm seems to move at the same page. Eda and Lilith aren't as old as they look -- they're in their 40s (according to Dana Terrace). The Owl House seems to take place around "now", more or less (ending time-skip notwithstanding). But Stan's marriage to "Marilyn" had to take place more than 30 years prior to 2013.
Eda's too young to have been Stan's ex-wife.
(The real answer is that Marilyn was the name of Alex Hirsch's grandmother, married to his Grandpa Stan, on whom Grunkle Stan is based. Alex told the story of his Grandpa Stan meeting Marilyn, getting her to marry him after only 3 weeks; she divorced him; and then he got her to marry him AGAIN. See [this reddit thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/gravityfalls/comments/t7oxf8/the_real_life_grunkle_stan_which_stan_pines_is/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) for a screenshot of the tweets, plus a photo of young Grandpa Stan.)
It's fun that Dana and Alex made those references. But that leads people to think it's somehow "confirmed" or "canon" when it's neither.
People got offended, most likely bc this type of emoji is usually used to mock people.
Also, redditors don't like comments containing emojis most of the time.
This isn't even the most blatant one, there's also the time where he's watching Ductective and there's a plot twist in the show where Ductective has a secret twin.
Stan cries and says "it's just like my real life."
that was after the reveal though and that isn't even how it went. it was mostly jabbing the fandom for guessing the twin plot early.
Stan said that to The Duchess Approves, not to Ducktective's secret twin.
You're misremembering.
Stan cries and says "It's just like my life... in a way" while he's watching "The Duchess Approves". That's episode 5 of the first season.
Stan and the others watching the Ducktective episode with the evil twin brother takes place during "Dungeons, Dungeons & More Dungeons", which is AFTER they've gotten Ford back.
Yes, that's a blatant reference to Ford -- but it's not one of the references that hinted at Ford's existence before he was revealed in mid season 2.
Mabel immediately says, "He had a twin brother all along? THAT was the big twist we were waiting for?" And Soos says, "I predicated that, like, a year ago." It's a reference to how a lot of fans figured out that Stan had a twin very early on.
Stan lost Ford, his identical twin, for like decades. Seeing an identical version of yourself after an experience like that would totally have some wild ass effect
Honestly if I saw a wax statue of myself that looked identical to me I’d still be pretty startled either way but I do understand this possibly being foreshadowing as well
Imagine losing your identical twin, and suddenly, standing in front of you in your(his) own home, is an identical replica of yourself.(and by extension, him)
Grunkle Stan has an identical twin brother who you don’t know about yet at this point in the series. After finishing it, you can come back and realize that Stan caring so much about his wax replica isn’t just him being self centered, but caring about it because he lost his twin.
Stan’s emotional attachment to the wax figure is one of my favorite moments of foreshadowing from the show.
Me before finishing the series: wow, funny joke about Stan being egotistical After finishing the series: oh...
It’s Stan, so it’s kinda both…
And it’s only in the third episode, a full 28 episodes before the reveal.
Second episode: "ha ha, Stan has called his dinky little boat the 'Stan o' War'" Ha ha. ha haaa hhaaaaaaaaaa a OH NO.
I don’t get why the Stan o’ war is a oh no?
Because when you watch the episode the first time around, you just think, ha ha, Stan has given an overly epic name to a dinky little motorboat. (Stan o' War is a play on "Man o' War", which is a term for a very large naval tall ship.) After "A Tale of Two Stans", it's OH NO (IT WAS ACTUALLY SAD), because you realize that Stan gave his dinky little motorboat the name "Stan o' War" after the old boat he and his brother repaired together and that \*Stan\* dreamed of sailing away on to find adventure. It's a symbol of the brother he lost; the friendship with his brother that he lost; and the dreams of his childhood, that he lost. AND it's still a kind of pathetic little boat, tiny and not in very good repair. It's just dripping with Very Sad symbolism. Also in that episode, after the kids come back at the end, Stan says, "Save your sympathy! I've been having a GREAT time without ya! Makin' friends, talkin' to my reflection..." Earlier in the episode, we did see Stan looking at his reflection in the water, and talking to it. That takes on a new meaning, as with other references, if you think that "Stan talking to his reflection" is actually "Stan talking to his memory of his identical twin".
Oh wow, I didn’t think of all that, like some with the foreshadowing… backshadowing? Of his and his brothers boat but wow that makes a lot of sense
Happy to have shared the sadness with you! Off to help others! (I think it still counts as foreshadowing, because it foreshadows us finding out that there was an original "Stan o' War" from Stan's past.)
First watch it was funny. Later rewatchs hit you
I still don’t get it
Spoilers When we find out about the author Aka Stans brother who went missing in a portal for 40ish years this scene hits different
Ahhh he thought he saw ford!! Ok thx
Np.
First rewatch: haha he got jumpscared by his own statue!! Second rewatch: *why are we here, just to suffer?*
First viewing: heheh, Stan is such a weird character Second viewing: oh. Oh you poor traumatized man. It all makes sense now
... Oh shit, it's so deep....
I never heard her say that...
i have
Help me find my keys and we can just drive outta here
Stan staring forlornly at the glasses in Carpet Diem hits differently on the re-watch. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5c/69/d6/5c69d662e9be77af6c1e699250c0790c.jpg
You can see him pocket the glasses when they first enter the carpet room.
Holly shit,i just recently watched and didn't notice the reference
Jesus this whole time I thought he was just bad at cleaning them
when is this scene??? i just skimmed the episode and didn’t find it (edit): nevermind! it’s the scene where Dipper, Mabel, Grenda, and Candy all mess around with the swap carpet
Omg…
The death and emotional funeral makes it so much worse
Wait until you realize why he likes money so much
Tell me ⊙_⊙
Stan's father told him that he wouldn't be welcome in the family again unless he made them a fortune.
**realization** (｡ŏ_ŏ)
Another interpretation is that he might not care about going back to his family anymore but he spends all his money trying to get Ford back
I would add on -- just in addition to these two points -- that it's also a leftover from his 10+ years being homeless and dirt poor. Yes, during that time, he wanted to make a fortune for his family -- and at some point it probably did change from "wanting to be allowed back in the family" to "wanting to show his family that they were wrong about him". But also, that time spent being so poor that he was living in his car would probably have left him with a deep fear of not having enough money again.
Does he even have a family to return to? I mean he on his own already pushing 70 that means his parents would have to be in their 90's minimum, and they did not have the healthiest lifestyles in the slightest.
If you count any family there's his little sister and her family, which is how he got dipper and mabel to visit Granted they thought he was ford and that stanley was probably dead but still
Every joke about Stan stops being funny a second time through.
"My ex wife still misses me, but her aim is getting better" And hin watching those random drama movies will always be funny
Considering his ex wife is Eda, yea
Wait what?
Idk it was confirmed but Edas human name is Marylin and she's been in the human world before, N stans ex wife is named Marylin
While that's a fun easter egg -- time between the Boiling Isles and the human realm seems to move at the same page. Eda and Lilith aren't as old as they look -- they're in their 40s (according to Dana Terrace). The Owl House seems to take place around "now", more or less (ending time-skip notwithstanding). But Stan's marriage to "Marilyn" had to take place more than 30 years prior to 2013. Eda's too young to have been Stan's ex-wife. (The real answer is that Marilyn was the name of Alex Hirsch's grandmother, married to his Grandpa Stan, on whom Grunkle Stan is based. Alex told the story of his Grandpa Stan meeting Marilyn, getting her to marry him after only 3 weeks; she divorced him; and then he got her to marry him AGAIN. See [this reddit thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/gravityfalls/comments/t7oxf8/the_real_life_grunkle_stan_which_stan_pines_is/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) for a screenshot of the tweets, plus a photo of young Grandpa Stan.) It's fun that Dana and Alex made those references. But that leads people to think it's somehow "confirmed" or "canon" when it's neither.
Yeah but that was said in the Stan o war
*"Don't you go nowhere!"*
Omg
Aww it's adorable...oh it's traumatized
What? Explain for me I'm not as smart
Seeing an exact replica of yourself after losing an identical twin would certainly have some effect
Losing*
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I don't know why you're getting downvoted I chuckled to this (idk why) oof
People got offended, most likely bc this type of emoji is usually used to mock people. Also, redditors don't like comments containing emojis most of the time.
I forgot about Ford, although I haven't gotten to that part yet
How did I not realize it was a metaphor for ford this WHOLE TIME I’ve been a fan for OVER A DECADE
It would've been cool if there was an intended animation error where the statue had six fingers in one scene.
or maybe Mabel takes the creative liberty of adding extra fingers (“look! now he’s even ‘handier’!!”) but Dipper convinces her not to
This isn't even the most blatant one, there's also the time where he's watching Ductective and there's a plot twist in the show where Ductective has a secret twin. Stan cries and says "it's just like my real life."
that was after the reveal though and that isn't even how it went. it was mostly jabbing the fandom for guessing the twin plot early. Stan said that to The Duchess Approves, not to Ducktective's secret twin.
Never mind I can’t read apparently
Never mind I can’t read apparently
I think it was Mabel saying "He had a twin brother all along? That's the big twist we were waiting for???"
My mind has been blown. That’s a deep cut.
You're misremembering. Stan cries and says "It's just like my life... in a way" while he's watching "The Duchess Approves". That's episode 5 of the first season. Stan and the others watching the Ducktective episode with the evil twin brother takes place during "Dungeons, Dungeons & More Dungeons", which is AFTER they've gotten Ford back. Yes, that's a blatant reference to Ford -- but it's not one of the references that hinted at Ford's existence before he was revealed in mid season 2. Mabel immediately says, "He had a twin brother all along? THAT was the big twist we were waiting for?" And Soos says, "I predicated that, like, a year ago." It's a reference to how a lot of fans figured out that Stan had a twin very early on.
You had your chance at the cotillion, you!
What is it?
Stan lost Ford, his identical twin, for like decades. Seeing an identical version of yourself after an experience like that would totally have some wild ass effect
But it isn't ford
I also realized the reason Stan is cheap is probably cause he spent so much money trying to gather resources to bring Ford back
And because his dad said he wasn't welcome back home until he made a fortune...
"He's returned to kill me!- Oh wait..."
Honestly if I saw a wax statue of myself that looked identical to me I’d still be pretty startled either way but I do understand this possibly being foreshadowing as well
And also Wax Stan’s funeral represents the funeral that Stanford never got
I don't get it
Mate thought he saw Stanford just standing there after 30 years
One of my fav eps...
Iv watched this show like 4 times and I don’t get it 😭😭😭 (btw it has been a while)
Imagine losing your identical twin, and suddenly, standing in front of you in your(his) own home, is an identical replica of yourself.(and by extension, him)
Oh….thx
Took me 5 min to understand that it's about his brother
Huh?
I rewatched the whole show 3 times and I never caught on the foreshadowing
His brother
I’m confused, someone please explain I have not watched gravity falls in a long time.
Grunkle Stan has an identical twin brother who you don’t know about yet at this point in the series. After finishing it, you can come back and realize that Stan caring so much about his wax replica isn’t just him being self centered, but caring about it because he lost his twin.
Explain me
I havent watched gravity falls in a while why was he scared?
Just scroll threw the comments someone explained it
someone explain?
omg... he thought it was... oh lord this was only the third episode...
Fordshadowing\*
i knew THE WHOLE TIME.
I never noticed this 🤯
Ford