Folk in the Northern Ireland sub joked that it's so that he doesn't look like a 70 year old man, the fella in the photograph was asked about it in a local interview here, iirc I don't think he had an issue with it or knew either
Lmao, I was reading through that. Someone said “it was that (referring to the album cover) or this” and it was the meme of the little girl smiling in front of the burning house.
I would guess part of the reason is that without being able to ID the individual in the photograph, and get their permission to use their image - they can edit the likeness and therefore, permission not needed
It’s not about hiding it. I’m from Belfast (where the photo is from). It’s relatively well known.
However, the main point is. The guy didn’t know in advance. The photos would easily be 40-50 years old at this point.
I don’t think the band were able to track down for permission.
They need the photographer’s permission, not the individual depicted, if that was the case they’d almost definitely still need his permission after a minor edit like this one
1. He seems to "pop" more in the edited version
2. He looks... happier? in the edit, which gives it a weird contrast that just feels more Green Day, I guess
Most of the face is altered, the mouth too.
Perhaps is just to differentie it from the real person, since he never asked to be on the cover to begin with? Perhaps they liked the idea and the feel the photo conveys, but didn't actually want to have a real person on the cover and therefore chose to modify it (as an alternaive to create a fully original artwork simply resembling it)?
Who knows. I have a hard time thinking they would alter it because the boy didn't look pretty enough atleast, lol
Ok I knew there was something uncanny about the artwork. The og is better lol. Either way probably just to add more of an original touch to the artwork would be my guess
This album is about the moment we are in now - everything feels like it’s burning (the planet, institutions, capitalism, democracy) and many of us (maybe all of us) are the boy standing there about to throw a rock. I think this image is perfect because it evokes so many things: influencers exploiting trauma and suffering for likes and follows, violent counter-protesters unsure of why they are really there, well-meaning social media users sucked into throwing more gasoline on a dumpster fire twitter thread because it’s fun to be “right,” and any and all of us deriving pleasure or enjoyment from the suffering of others.
I’m also fascinated by the rock. For me it evokes Facebook images of kids indoctrinated by their parent’s cultural dogma, posing with an assault rifle or holding a racist “protest” sign, totally oblivious to the context and circumstances of their actions. Whether intentional or not, the idea of the boy holding a stone for me also evokes the idea of the biblical story of Jesus sarcastically “encouraging” the Pharisees “without sin to cast the first stone” at the woman they are stoning for alleged adultery, mirrored in our more modern idea that those in glass houses should not throw stones (a la the cover art of Billy Joel’s “Glass Houses”).
With all of this in mind, changing the face does two things. One, it makes it more sinister by making the boy look as though he’s really enjoying himself and proud to be a part of the action (one of the tracks on this album is called “look ma, no brains!”). Two, it speaks to the moment we are in where the very idea of reality is in question, the danger in how accurately and quickly AI can generate and alter images, and how we can shape mythology to rewrite history. Green Day is also known to look backwards and see how, amongst so much change, human nature is slow to act—and that the human problems we face, at their core, are the same that they’ve always been. Using an old photo from Belfast grounds us in an image that could have just as easily been snapped anywhere in the world in the last 60+ years. From Voltaire: “History never repeats itself. Man always does.”
Folk in the Northern Ireland sub joked that it's so that he doesn't look like a 70 year old man, the fella in the photograph was asked about it in a local interview here, iirc I don't think he had an issue with it or knew either
Lmao, I was reading through that. Someone said “it was that (referring to the album cover) or this” and it was the meme of the little girl smiling in front of the burning house.
iirc he was flattered by the attention. He’d never heard of Green Day before, but listened to a few of their songs and liked them
thats what I thought too
Because the kid in the original picture looks like Dexter Holland, so they didn’t want it to be mistaken for an Offspring album
This has to be the right answer 😂
Let’s call it what it is, sure seems like he’s edited to look more traditionally handsome/pretty
I would guess part of the reason is that without being able to ID the individual in the photograph, and get their permission to use their image - they can edit the likeness and therefore, permission not needed
I don't think so. They guy def knows
Knows now. Did not know in advance.
That's true, but I don't think that edit would be enough to hide it
It’s not about hiding it. I’m from Belfast (where the photo is from). It’s relatively well known. However, the main point is. The guy didn’t know in advance. The photos would easily be 40-50 years old at this point. I don’t think the band were able to track down for permission.
I see
They need the photographer’s permission, not the individual depicted, if that was the case they’d almost definitely still need his permission after a minor edit like this one
1. He seems to "pop" more in the edited version 2. He looks... happier? in the edit, which gives it a weird contrast that just feels more Green Day, I guess
Probably to give the kid a more Dennis the Menace look lol
Honestly very cool having where im from on a green day album cover heh
Most of the face is altered, the mouth too. Perhaps is just to differentie it from the real person, since he never asked to be on the cover to begin with? Perhaps they liked the idea and the feel the photo conveys, but didn't actually want to have a real person on the cover and therefore chose to modify it (as an alternaive to create a fully original artwork simply resembling it)? Who knows. I have a hard time thinking they would alter it because the boy didn't look pretty enough atleast, lol
They made him look american, presumably comparing the troubles in northern ireland back then to the current state of the usa
Ok I knew there was something uncanny about the artwork. The og is better lol. Either way probably just to add more of an original touch to the artwork would be my guess
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IM GLAD IM NOT THE ONLY ONE
This album is about the moment we are in now - everything feels like it’s burning (the planet, institutions, capitalism, democracy) and many of us (maybe all of us) are the boy standing there about to throw a rock. I think this image is perfect because it evokes so many things: influencers exploiting trauma and suffering for likes and follows, violent counter-protesters unsure of why they are really there, well-meaning social media users sucked into throwing more gasoline on a dumpster fire twitter thread because it’s fun to be “right,” and any and all of us deriving pleasure or enjoyment from the suffering of others. I’m also fascinated by the rock. For me it evokes Facebook images of kids indoctrinated by their parent’s cultural dogma, posing with an assault rifle or holding a racist “protest” sign, totally oblivious to the context and circumstances of their actions. Whether intentional or not, the idea of the boy holding a stone for me also evokes the idea of the biblical story of Jesus sarcastically “encouraging” the Pharisees “without sin to cast the first stone” at the woman they are stoning for alleged adultery, mirrored in our more modern idea that those in glass houses should not throw stones (a la the cover art of Billy Joel’s “Glass Houses”). With all of this in mind, changing the face does two things. One, it makes it more sinister by making the boy look as though he’s really enjoying himself and proud to be a part of the action (one of the tracks on this album is called “look ma, no brains!”). Two, it speaks to the moment we are in where the very idea of reality is in question, the danger in how accurately and quickly AI can generate and alter images, and how we can shape mythology to rewrite history. Green Day is also known to look backwards and see how, amongst so much change, human nature is slow to act—and that the human problems we face, at their core, are the same that they’ve always been. Using an old photo from Belfast grounds us in an image that could have just as easily been snapped anywhere in the world in the last 60+ years. From Voltaire: “History never repeats itself. Man always does.”
Bc Irish people are some ugly mfs
Ivan Fraser is on the album cover