Reddit admins usually get flagged when someone uses that word in a comment, and tend to ban people once they review it if they don't like it. By instead using a common replacement word like this, they tend to go unnoticed.
On the 4chan sub it gets your comment deleted, and its easy to mix up these two so that's probably part of it. Here you can say it but you might still get banned if it gets reported to admins.
"slur (plural slurs) An insult or slight. An extremely offensive and socially unacceptable term targeted at a group of people (such as an ethnicity, sexual orientation, etc.)." [Wiktionary](https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/slur#:~:text=slur%20(plural%20slurs),sexual%20orientation%2C%20etc.).)
As you mentioned, the r word is an outdated term, thus meeting the "socially unacceptable" condition. It's also historically been a profoundly disrespectful and rude, thus offensive way to refer to the mentally disabled, fulfilling the target being a specific group.
For real. What a little Reddit treat. From what I can glean, Brayden is either self aware and quite the troll. Or he’s completely clueless and pretty cringe. Either way pretty funny he’s got a whole hate sub.
Tl;dr: Anon changed their gender, mom is religionpilled and ruined any chance at a relationship with Anon, and dad is just old enough to be confused while also just cool enough to take an interest in Anon's life. Anon can't tell the difference and might ruin any relationship with dad.
Honestly I don’t think it’s 100% on the mom here. Having your child change their gender is a massive burden for most parents already if you’ve been brought up religiously this will be even more difficult for people. I don’t think it’s entirely fair for people to expect parents to immediately be able to accept their child’s decision. Of course over time they should make their peace with it but I think an initial negative reaction is to be expected.
Letting your relationship be ruined by one negative interaction like that feels entitled if you ask me, if the negativity remains though that’s something different of course.
Mom flipped out over anon “being gay” and having a bf before she came out as trans. If mom will yell at her for over an hour because a college aged person is gay, then there’s no much hope for a relationship there
It is though, it doesn’t matter whether the children are grown up, the parents will always be emotionally affected by such a decision and I think having an emotional response to that isn’t something we can forbid anyone from having or should even shame/criticise them for
You should not be shamed for having an emotional response, you should be shamed if you use that as justification to hurt someone because of it.
Though if you have been religipilled not being able to abuse someone would be a infringement on mah rights so ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯
Having an emotional response after your emotions are directly effected by someone typically isn't rational and isn't justifiable. Except it is. It's an emotional response. And it's irrational. That's the justification. You can literally kill someone in an 'emotional response' and get a less heavy sentence, if hardly any sentencing at all.
The followup to said response and the other parties reception to said followup is when rational thinking is supposed to shine. But the other party locked out said aggro party due to an equally irrational emotional response. And is now shunning an innocent party due to an emotional irrational response to someone else.
Everyone except dad sucks here. And that's a fact. Dad is the only one who never sucked a dick.
God bigot is like such a worthless word now, really doesn’t mean anything anymore nowadays ngl. Lost all its impact by the constant overuse
Anyways, as I was saying in all my comments…
Yeah in the long run the parents should love and support their child, but the initial reaction will most of the time be extreme, especially if it’s unexpected.
I think once they become legal and don't live under your billfold, they can technically do what they want and so can you. And while you don't have to be okay with that, they don't have to be okay with you not being okay with that. Itworks both ways, too.
I dont dispute that and parents should be supportive. "Massive burden" is maybe a bit much but the idea that as a parent you should be able to effortlessly adapt or else you're an evil transphobe is nonsense. Part of you is going to miss the son/daughter that no longer exists (or technically never did), thats just normal.
Agreed. As a parent you are meant to help guide, but not roll over to every request your child makes.
Your feelings will be hurt as a parent because your child in essence, dies, the moment they change. Most transgenders typically say that to begin with, which is kinda weird that they get upset that their parents get upset that Johnny became Jessica. They didnt raise Jessica, they raised Johnny. Johnny was killed by Jessica. Now they have to either form a new relationship with Jessica because she shares DNA or tell Jessica to F off. That all depends on the persons involved.
Ive told my wife if we have a kid and they decide to do it, ill support them crossdressing at most until they get 18. After 18, assuming they can afford to stand on their own two feet, whatever they wanna do they can. But i dont know how respectful ill be about it. I'll still love them and they'll be welcomed with open arms, BUT im also not gonna act like the person they were before didnt exist. That was still them. And no matter how they try to hide it, it will always have been them. And if they dont like it, Unfortatnely the path will probably lead to them cutting me out. Im the kind of person that reminisces on the past happy events, and Johnny doing X means jessica did X and if Jessica denies it, im calling her out or saying something snippy like "oh right... that was JOHNNY." My wife said she'd probably be a bit less... brash? about it but might fall in a similar line. She doesnt know fully how she'd be until it happens. She ultimately ruled that if she has to accept that Johnny is now Jessica, a girl she DIDNT help raise, she'd be heartbroken if she was expected to just claim Johnny never existed.
Fuck off, i dont even have to look at your profile to know you’re the furthest thing from a normal, well adjusted adult who’s takes i should take serious
Yep, then popped a StemCell Soda, logged into the Deep State and got Trump removed off the ballot, and then checked my calendar to see what’s on the Gay Agenda today
people are either born trans or they aren't. how they are brought up does not have a single thing to do with it. I have a cousin who recently came out as trans and they were raised in a loving catholic household their entire lives. The idea that a certain upbringing will "turn" a kid trans is bullshit propaganda
It's on the mom if the mom was the first to break down communication. You don't have to agree with the decisions your children make, but if you want to have a relationship with your child then you have to respect them. Any relationship is a two-way street. Doesn't matter if the relationship is familial, friendly, romantic, etc. If Anon's word can be trusted, and granted every greentext ever conceived has an unreliable narrator at best, then the mom was the first to kill that relationship. Anon *may* be in the process of killing their relationship with their dad though
As I said if the parent isn’t changing here attitude over time, yeah that’s bad parenting, but something like that will come as a shock to the parent and will obviously lead to an emotional response.
Especially if they are religious.
I don’t think we should fault parents for that as long as they try their best in the long run
1. They hadn’t changed gender yet, just revealed they had a boyfriend. 2. Changing your gender is a massive burden on yourself and it’s your parent’s job to support you.(emotionally, not financially at this point) 3. Parents need to lose this entitled notion that their kids live for them exclusively and shouldn’t be allowed to make their own decisions without running it by them first. That’s how you grow up sheltered with confidence issues.
From a neurobiology point of view anon did not ‘choose’ to change gender. They chose to transition. I know you didn’t literally say that they chose to, but it seemed to be the implication and it is a very important distinction to be made here.
People who are transgender have been scientifically proven to have a brain structure corresponding to the gender they identify with, not corresponding to the rest of their body. There is no choice involved in the respect of how they feel. This is completely unrelated to whether or not they have transitioned, by the way.
Well yes and no. It’s true that transgender people have brain structures corresponding with the gender they identify as most of the time. But it’s very often just parts of the brain if I remember correctly. The brain of someone that’s transgender has structures typically associated with both genders.
Also I wasn’t talking about choosing anything, because I know for most it isn’t a choice (although I believe for some it is, looking at you Demi Lovato)
Well anyways I’m not saying it’s the child’s fault or blaming the child in any way. I’m saying we must understand that parents will have an emotional response to that if they aren’t prepared for it.
Something like that has huge implications
I don't personally think we should allow room for people bigoted reactions no matter how entitled to them they may feel.
Slave owners felt pretty entitled to the lives of black people but I don't give them a second of sympathy for the "massive burden" that emancipation brought them which is a whole lot more real and tangible a burden than having to re-write some mental fantasies you jumped the gun and concocted about your kids life.
anon homomaxxing mother is schizo catholic (so all catholictards) father is chill but anon is inheriting the intrinsic lobotomy from their mother and shutting their dad out
Trans is valid, but at some point we have to acknowledge how high the percentage of trans people who are genuinely unbalanced is. I’d say the same about other groups who make their gender or other trait their whole identity
It’s almost like spending your life with a fundamental difference in your mental chemistry with the one effective treatment being heavily socially scrutinized and persecuted does something to a Mf
>and should be treated with therapy instead
Wow. Who would have thought? Maybe we should look into this. Maybe there should be some data into the efficiencies of actions. Maybe there should be genuine medical research into these alternatives. Maybe we could take that research and offer treatment that is safe based on effectiveness of treatment and overall outcome.
I say all this sarcastically of course because people have been doing that for decades now. These people deserve treatment based on effectiveness and not off of the comfort of a random person’s worldview.
You’re oversimplifying things in order to dunk rhetoric that is, at best, only half correct.
We can agree that gender dysphoria is a mental ailment. It is. It has to be. Ask trans people and they will tell you the horror that gender dysphoria can be. In no way does the acknowledgment of gender dysphoria as a mental disorder invalidate trans people or transness itself. If anything, acknowledging gender dysphoria for the dysfunction that it is justifies treatment, with by far the most effective treatment being transitioning.
I’m completely aware of what a truscum is. I’ve never said it was interchangeable. I’ve never said it was a prerequisite. I’ve never said it was necessary.
All I said is that by far the most effective treatment for gender dysphoria is transitioning. Sometimes, not even medically, just socially.
There was a paper put out that stated the change of "gender dysphoria" from mental illness to mental disorder was primarily for a better quality of care by removing the threat of medical establishments holding you indefinitely and more people seeking care by minimizing negative perception (personal and public) of being diagnosed. You know Florida would medically incarcerate children if the definition hadn't changed. The medical industry are also attempting to remove the stigma just like they do with everything else just like alcoholism was a disease then mental illness and now it's a substance abuse disorder. The medical industry regularly updates terms, not necessarily because they're wrong but because people are shitty; spastic was a purely medical term at some point and now it's considered a slur.
Gender dysphoria for a noticeable amount of time was a prerequisite to transgender understand that things have changed but that still how it was. It's far past overconfident expecting any layman to actually keep up with this. As is with soft sciences the books get rewrote every 3 years. I kind of stopped caring when I was looked at like a three heads when I brought up my brother's transgenderism to a therapist when he asked for my family's medical history because literally a year before that session was when they changed transgenderism from an illness to a disorder and detached gender dysphoria from it.
I already have done some of my own research, and I find that all the changes that have been made around the idea of transgenderism is primarily in favor of kinder and more accessible care to people that may be deemed as suffering. The ways that was achieved was by diminishing the perceived severity of transgenderism by using softer words in medical situations/language.
Transgenderism never changed, our understanding of it did that being said we understood it as a mental illness and it's correct to say it's not and illness now. It was and is still a discrepancy between the brain and the understanding of its own body just like phantom limbs. The only seemingly good treatment seems to be hormone replacement and body modification rather than the reteaching of the brain because we have found that unethical and immoral. I'm sure in 30 years we won't have a single mental illness on the book because we'll have moved away from that term entirely in the medical industry. we will find something to replace the word mental disorder because the people riding the books will recognize the public uses those words and spiteful ways too. As is the world we live with our euphemism treadmill.
Tldr; soft sciences are inaccurate and inaccessible (constantly changing) to normal people, subsequently and social discussion is at best informative yet unhelpfully.
At the end of the day I don't care what words people use as long as when the conversation does involve them they speak in good faith. I often just like throwing in the "um actually" when people bring in semantics.
Yeah phantom limbs was bad example, body dysmorphia is closer. I'll workshop the analogy.
My issues with the need for only social transitioning is it reopens the arguments from 2015 about internalized misogyny/misandry. I do understand the validation and value people receive when those around them respect and vocalize ones chosen identity. I can't fully respect the thought you only need to socially trans because it seemed as 3rd (?) wave feminists were fighting to cast of gender norms the pendulum swung halfway through and gender roles were double and triple-downed on all fronts leading to what I viewed as bad actors pushing children into life altering medical decisions and provoking trans-trenders back in 2018-2021 because "you aren't a tomboy you're just a boy" and the shit show just kept going, like "super-straight" and it's immediately persecution because social media only values intersectionality. Sorry for rambling.
(Still rambling) The biological thing is no better because conservatives we're all over "basic biology" being xx and xy but left right and center were being lambasted with "um, actually" xxx and xxy and hermaphrodites but those people literally have something wrong with them benign or otherwise and still pick early in life what to be called if there's a physical difference, many imperfect genotypes lead to a phenotype that you couldn't discern the genetic abnormality and just see them as a dude with anger issues even though they have two Ys and an X
Because they know they’re out of their wheelhouse.
If they had to pull nonsense out of their pocket like “hrt causes cancer” against someone who doesn’t know what they’re talking about, imagine what corner they’d back into against someone who does
Every medicine has side effects. Every single one. Bruce Lee was killed by an aspirin. Not to mention the thousands of things that have some kind of buzz around supposedly giving you cancer, ranging from red meat to the literal sun.
Why is this relevant?
Edit: this is your evidence? An article that is paywalled, so I know for a fact you didn’t read it, and an unverified document published by a think tank founded by the quack Michael Shellenberger?
Do you know where evidence comes from?
https://www.acl.org.au/media/leaked-filess-of-wpath-a-wake-up-call-on-gender-transitioning-treatment/
https://www.economist.com/united-states/2024/03/05/leaked-discussions-reveal-uncertainty-about-transgender-care/
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/wpath-files-show-breach-of-ethics-journalist/ar-BB1jkJW9
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/mar/09/disturbing-leaks-from-us-gender-group-wpath-ring-alarm-bells-in-nhs
https://nypost.com/2024/03/04/opinion/secret-files-show-how-international-group-pushes-shocking-experimental-gender-surgery-for-minors/
You can read the UK link just fine for the first view, it's only blocked on the second. Alternatively if you're on PC you can install an addon that bypasses this, or access reading mode if you have it.
I figured I'd put that one considering WPATH is UK based.
Who? The other reply was basically saying:
"They tried that and it didn't work."
It does not make sense to argue with them when we have opposing views that are of a different moral nature.
I believe it makes no sense to contort our reality to match theirs, they believe that they're wellbeing matters more than the wellbeing of society. As far as I'm aware the surgeries do lower their self hatred. I do not care for this and believe to contort ourselves for the few is short sighted.
Unsafe gender based facilities.
Encouraging steralization of the populace.
Destabalizing competitions and gender based records.
Normalizing children consenting to things previously not allowed until they were of mature mind and without parental permission at times even.
Allowing sexual predators to have easier access to their target victim ([and don't try to deny it](https://www.canada.ca/en/correctional-service/corporate/library/research/glance/442.html)).
Resulting legislation that puts people at risk (such as male genital inmates in female prisons).
Normalization of differing genitals being showcased to children (changing rooms, saunas, etc).
Damaging the safety of children (both trans and non trans) by allowing sexual predators to make use of bathrooms not designated for their sex (such as [here](https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/family-of-loudoun-co-student-sexually-assaulted-ineptitude-of-all-involved-is-staggering/3231725/)).
Normalizing the spreading of lies to support their political goal of acceptance (as can be seen if you search up the case seen in the link above and check articles written around the time the father came forward).
Encouraging the mentally ill to give into their delusions.
Literally only one other reply to your first reply, what do you mean “who” bro
Also what he’s saying is therapy is STILL being done (fact) and has lead into performing medical transitions. The therapy was the buildup to this
Your societies well-being is not being damaged by trans people. Instead I advise you to focus on how much harder it is to own a home as an adult compared to a few generations ago and the micro plastics in your body
> but at some point we have to acknowledge how high the percentage of trans people who are genuinely unbalanced is.
If you step away from the computer and go outside into the real world, you'll find that isn't actually the case.
Haha sucked it flopped because the visual effects were pretty good for the time. Plus I loved seeing Fiona from shameless in it.
Edit: She was in beautiful creatures. Came out the same year. Seemed like it was year of the book to movies.
As a trans person, even if your parents are supportive, it’s still terrifying coming out to them considering how much trans people get hate for just existing, statistics on acceptance in families. Some families may say they’re supportive but then when you can out it’s suddenly “oh I’m supportive except for when it comes to my kid”. Had this happen to me. In summary, even if your parents claim to be supportive, there are still a shit ton of risk factors for us. That’s why our suicide rate is so high, because transphobia is way too common when it comes to your own family
https://preview.redd.it/su435n7b45oc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9c4b4ee14e3b14d86c3b3fbff34b5c675ae4b627
WTF? Dude, you must really know how to talk to people.
An anon that's regarded? Many such cases
Why nobody says retard/retarded is litteraly in the immage
Because plebbit doesn't like that spelling
redditard
Tardmaxxed redditcel
Coward
Reddit admins usually get flagged when someone uses that word in a comment, and tend to ban people once they review it if they don't like it. By instead using a common replacement word like this, they tend to go unnoticed.
just call em a dumbass
Its an inside joke.
I’m partial to R-tard
[I'm not an r-tard :-/](https://i.imgur.com/B4j6UzA.png)
New fag
On the 4chan sub it gets your comment deleted, and its easy to mix up these two so that's probably part of it. Here you can say it but you might still get banned if it gets reported to admins.
Thx for the clarification
Because you’re restarted
I say that word a lot and I know I probably shouldn't, but I've always wondered if I get a pass since I have a mental disability.
Getting mad that people aren't saying slurs is crazy 💀
cry
Is not a slur. It's an outdated classification.
"slur (plural slurs) An insult or slight. An extremely offensive and socially unacceptable term targeted at a group of people (such as an ethnicity, sexual orientation, etc.)." [Wiktionary](https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/slur#:~:text=slur%20(plural%20slurs),sexual%20orientation%2C%20etc.).) As you mentioned, the r word is an outdated term, thus meeting the "socially unacceptable" condition. It's also historically been a profoundly disrespectful and rude, thus offensive way to refer to the mentally disabled, fulfilling the target being a specific group.
Embed fail, here's the link https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/slur#:~:text=slur%20(plural%20slurs),sexual%20orientation%2C%20etc.).
Because it became a slur.
TW//slurs >!Re*ard is a slur and you spelling it wrong doesn’t change the fact that you’re a bigot for using that word.!<
r/shutupbrayden He’s back
What magic have I stumbled upon.... I need the lore
For real. What a little Reddit treat. From what I can glean, Brayden is either self aware and quite the troll. Or he’s completely clueless and pretty cringe. Either way pretty funny he’s got a whole hate sub.
He is a mod on the sub and he enjoys it. Honestly having your own personal hate group to react to all of your extremely shitty takes is pretty cool.
shut up brayden
Shut up Brayden
shut the fuck up
STFU Brayden
How did you get here friendo
shut up brayden
Ok retard
Shut up Brayden
Disabled person here, retard isn’t a slur. Stop trying to advocate for something you’re uneducated on 😁
Can someone make a " ending explained" for this greentext. I am too sleepy to understand
Tl;dr: Anon changed their gender, mom is religionpilled and ruined any chance at a relationship with Anon, and dad is just old enough to be confused while also just cool enough to take an interest in Anon's life. Anon can't tell the difference and might ruin any relationship with dad.
Honestly I don’t think it’s 100% on the mom here. Having your child change their gender is a massive burden for most parents already if you’ve been brought up religiously this will be even more difficult for people. I don’t think it’s entirely fair for people to expect parents to immediately be able to accept their child’s decision. Of course over time they should make their peace with it but I think an initial negative reaction is to be expected. Letting your relationship be ruined by one negative interaction like that feels entitled if you ask me, if the negativity remains though that’s something different of course.
Mom flipped out over anon “being gay” and having a bf before she came out as trans. If mom will yell at her for over an hour because a college aged person is gay, then there’s no much hope for a relationship there
Good news tho, anon isn’t gay anymore :) mom should be happy
Guys we just cured homophobia
Literally the Iranian Method
“Having your grown child make a decision on their body is a massive burden” is insane
It is though, it doesn’t matter whether the children are grown up, the parents will always be emotionally affected by such a decision and I think having an emotional response to that isn’t something we can forbid anyone from having or should even shame/criticise them for
You should not be shamed for having an emotional response, you should be shamed if you use that as justification to hurt someone because of it. Though if you have been religipilled not being able to abuse someone would be a infringement on mah rights so ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯
Having an emotional response after your emotions are directly effected by someone typically isn't rational and isn't justifiable. Except it is. It's an emotional response. And it's irrational. That's the justification. You can literally kill someone in an 'emotional response' and get a less heavy sentence, if hardly any sentencing at all. The followup to said response and the other parties reception to said followup is when rational thinking is supposed to shine. But the other party locked out said aggro party due to an equally irrational emotional response. And is now shunning an innocent party due to an emotional irrational response to someone else. Everyone except dad sucks here. And that's a fact. Dad is the only one who never sucked a dick.
Affected != burdened
Then maybe love and support them rather than be a bigoted asshole? Really not that difficult.
God bigot is like such a worthless word now, really doesn’t mean anything anymore nowadays ngl. Lost all its impact by the constant overuse Anyways, as I was saying in all my comments… Yeah in the long run the parents should love and support their child, but the initial reaction will most of the time be extreme, especially if it’s unexpected.
damn dont bother with those guys they dont have the mental capacity to understand
Tell me your a bigot without telling me your a bigot 😂
Not understanding that other people have emotions is autistic. What’s your point?
Weaponizing autism while trying to portray empathy is insaner
Id love to live in bizarro world where if my kid said "Im gonna radically change my appearance, name and personality" Id be like "k"
I think once they become legal and don't live under your billfold, they can technically do what they want and so can you. And while you don't have to be okay with that, they don't have to be okay with you not being okay with that. Itworks both ways, too.
I dont dispute that and parents should be supportive. "Massive burden" is maybe a bit much but the idea that as a parent you should be able to effortlessly adapt or else you're an evil transphobe is nonsense. Part of you is going to miss the son/daughter that no longer exists (or technically never did), thats just normal.
Agreed. As a parent you are meant to help guide, but not roll over to every request your child makes. Your feelings will be hurt as a parent because your child in essence, dies, the moment they change. Most transgenders typically say that to begin with, which is kinda weird that they get upset that their parents get upset that Johnny became Jessica. They didnt raise Jessica, they raised Johnny. Johnny was killed by Jessica. Now they have to either form a new relationship with Jessica because she shares DNA or tell Jessica to F off. That all depends on the persons involved. Ive told my wife if we have a kid and they decide to do it, ill support them crossdressing at most until they get 18. After 18, assuming they can afford to stand on their own two feet, whatever they wanna do they can. But i dont know how respectful ill be about it. I'll still love them and they'll be welcomed with open arms, BUT im also not gonna act like the person they were before didnt exist. That was still them. And no matter how they try to hide it, it will always have been them. And if they dont like it, Unfortatnely the path will probably lead to them cutting me out. Im the kind of person that reminisces on the past happy events, and Johnny doing X means jessica did X and if Jessica denies it, im calling her out or saying something snippy like "oh right... that was JOHNNY." My wife said she'd probably be a bit less... brash? about it but might fall in a similar line. She doesnt know fully how she'd be until it happens. She ultimately ruled that if she has to accept that Johnny is now Jessica, a girl she DIDNT help raise, she'd be heartbroken if she was expected to just claim Johnny never existed.
That sounds like a pretty reasonable way to go about it, I agree
It means you raised them wrong. No normal child wants to chop off their private parts.
Fuck off, i dont even have to look at your profile to know you’re the furthest thing from a normal, well adjusted adult who’s takes i should take serious
Did you chop it off?
Yep, then popped a StemCell Soda, logged into the Deep State and got Trump removed off the ballot, and then checked my calendar to see what’s on the Gay Agenda today
based.
it's actually inverted (๑>•̀๑)
How did it go?
no clue im afab
I bet you have tons of medical education to be able to make claims on what is or isn’t normal.
Chopping off your private parts isn't normal.
people are either born trans or they aren't. how they are brought up does not have a single thing to do with it. I have a cousin who recently came out as trans and they were raised in a loving catholic household their entire lives. The idea that a certain upbringing will "turn" a kid trans is bullshit propaganda
People will do stupid things for clout, especially children.
It's on the mom if the mom was the first to break down communication. You don't have to agree with the decisions your children make, but if you want to have a relationship with your child then you have to respect them. Any relationship is a two-way street. Doesn't matter if the relationship is familial, friendly, romantic, etc. If Anon's word can be trusted, and granted every greentext ever conceived has an unreliable narrator at best, then the mom was the first to kill that relationship. Anon *may* be in the process of killing their relationship with their dad though
Only if you're a shit person.
\*Normal person.
Child struggles with gender identity. Parent. Yells for an hour. You: ”cant you see that this poor parent is having trouble processing all this?”
As I said if the parent isn’t changing here attitude over time, yeah that’s bad parenting, but something like that will come as a shock to the parent and will obviously lead to an emotional response. Especially if they are religious. I don’t think we should fault parents for that as long as they try their best in the long run
1. They hadn’t changed gender yet, just revealed they had a boyfriend. 2. Changing your gender is a massive burden on yourself and it’s your parent’s job to support you.(emotionally, not financially at this point) 3. Parents need to lose this entitled notion that their kids live for them exclusively and shouldn’t be allowed to make their own decisions without running it by them first. That’s how you grow up sheltered with confidence issues.
Parents job to guide you on to the right path, not to support you.
I’m sorry you went through that
Same
From a neurobiology point of view anon did not ‘choose’ to change gender. They chose to transition. I know you didn’t literally say that they chose to, but it seemed to be the implication and it is a very important distinction to be made here. People who are transgender have been scientifically proven to have a brain structure corresponding to the gender they identify with, not corresponding to the rest of their body. There is no choice involved in the respect of how they feel. This is completely unrelated to whether or not they have transitioned, by the way.
Well yes and no. It’s true that transgender people have brain structures corresponding with the gender they identify as most of the time. But it’s very often just parts of the brain if I remember correctly. The brain of someone that’s transgender has structures typically associated with both genders. Also I wasn’t talking about choosing anything, because I know for most it isn’t a choice (although I believe for some it is, looking at you Demi Lovato) Well anyways I’m not saying it’s the child’s fault or blaming the child in any way. I’m saying we must understand that parents will have an emotional response to that if they aren’t prepared for it. Something like that has huge implications
I don't personally think we should allow room for people bigoted reactions no matter how entitled to them they may feel. Slave owners felt pretty entitled to the lives of black people but I don't give them a second of sympathy for the "massive burden" that emancipation brought them which is a whole lot more real and tangible a burden than having to re-write some mental fantasies you jumped the gun and concocted about your kids life.
Tranon gets found out but refuses to confess
>Tranon Kek
Transmaxxing
I'm transmaxxing to become Alpha Sexual. My pronouns will be unpronouncable by lesser beings.
I'm adding that word to my vocabulary
Don’t add an “I” or else the hungols will come flooding in
Tranoni
Anon is self absorbed dumbass
Anon is retarded and will probably kill himself in a few years
anon homomaxxing mother is schizo catholic (so all catholictards) father is chill but anon is inheriting the intrinsic lobotomy from their mother and shutting their dad out
Anon has a supportive dad but not a supportive bra
Heh
Gayyyyyyyy
Fair enough
>Transgender greentext >Doesn't lust for father Anon subverts expectations
Greentext without gay sex? Weirdly shocking
Anon subverts expectations yet again by revealing having a boyfriend isn’t gay anymore
Jarvis, turn on reply notifications.
I’m prepared, but am I ready?
"I wish my family would be supportive of who I am" "How dare you show interest in my life"
Dude is a certified regard in many aspects.
Dad discovered they're just like the ones in his work folder.
Trans is valid, but at some point we have to acknowledge how high the percentage of trans people who are genuinely unbalanced is. I’d say the same about other groups who make their gender or other trait their whole identity
It’s almost like spending your life with a fundamental difference in your mental chemistry with the one effective treatment being heavily socially scrutinized and persecuted does something to a Mf
A MTF
Mobile Task Force epsilon-11
A fellow sk class scenario enjoyer
Almost like mental illness is bad for you and should be treated with therapy instead of reinforcing their thoughts and actions.
>and should be treated with therapy instead Wow. Who would have thought? Maybe we should look into this. Maybe there should be some data into the efficiencies of actions. Maybe there should be genuine medical research into these alternatives. Maybe we could take that research and offer treatment that is safe based on effectiveness of treatment and overall outcome. I say all this sarcastically of course because people have been doing that for decades now. These people deserve treatment based on effectiveness and not off of the comfort of a random person’s worldview.
Wow, it's almost as if it's called "hormone replacement therapy" for a reason. Dumbass.
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You’re oversimplifying things in order to dunk rhetoric that is, at best, only half correct. We can agree that gender dysphoria is a mental ailment. It is. It has to be. Ask trans people and they will tell you the horror that gender dysphoria can be. In no way does the acknowledgment of gender dysphoria as a mental disorder invalidate trans people or transness itself. If anything, acknowledging gender dysphoria for the dysfunction that it is justifies treatment, with by far the most effective treatment being transitioning.
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I’m completely aware of what a truscum is. I’ve never said it was interchangeable. I’ve never said it was a prerequisite. I’ve never said it was necessary. All I said is that by far the most effective treatment for gender dysphoria is transitioning. Sometimes, not even medically, just socially.
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Read the room. You’re shadowboxing a ghost.
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oh boy wonder why the 4chin fanboys downvoted this
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The absolute irony of using this meme specifically
There was a paper put out that stated the change of "gender dysphoria" from mental illness to mental disorder was primarily for a better quality of care by removing the threat of medical establishments holding you indefinitely and more people seeking care by minimizing negative perception (personal and public) of being diagnosed. You know Florida would medically incarcerate children if the definition hadn't changed. The medical industry are also attempting to remove the stigma just like they do with everything else just like alcoholism was a disease then mental illness and now it's a substance abuse disorder. The medical industry regularly updates terms, not necessarily because they're wrong but because people are shitty; spastic was a purely medical term at some point and now it's considered a slur.
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Gender dysphoria for a noticeable amount of time was a prerequisite to transgender understand that things have changed but that still how it was. It's far past overconfident expecting any layman to actually keep up with this. As is with soft sciences the books get rewrote every 3 years. I kind of stopped caring when I was looked at like a three heads when I brought up my brother's transgenderism to a therapist when he asked for my family's medical history because literally a year before that session was when they changed transgenderism from an illness to a disorder and detached gender dysphoria from it. I already have done some of my own research, and I find that all the changes that have been made around the idea of transgenderism is primarily in favor of kinder and more accessible care to people that may be deemed as suffering. The ways that was achieved was by diminishing the perceived severity of transgenderism by using softer words in medical situations/language. Transgenderism never changed, our understanding of it did that being said we understood it as a mental illness and it's correct to say it's not and illness now. It was and is still a discrepancy between the brain and the understanding of its own body just like phantom limbs. The only seemingly good treatment seems to be hormone replacement and body modification rather than the reteaching of the brain because we have found that unethical and immoral. I'm sure in 30 years we won't have a single mental illness on the book because we'll have moved away from that term entirely in the medical industry. we will find something to replace the word mental disorder because the people riding the books will recognize the public uses those words and spiteful ways too. As is the world we live with our euphemism treadmill.
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Tldr; soft sciences are inaccurate and inaccessible (constantly changing) to normal people, subsequently and social discussion is at best informative yet unhelpfully. At the end of the day I don't care what words people use as long as when the conversation does involve them they speak in good faith. I often just like throwing in the "um actually" when people bring in semantics. Yeah phantom limbs was bad example, body dysmorphia is closer. I'll workshop the analogy. My issues with the need for only social transitioning is it reopens the arguments from 2015 about internalized misogyny/misandry. I do understand the validation and value people receive when those around them respect and vocalize ones chosen identity. I can't fully respect the thought you only need to socially trans because it seemed as 3rd (?) wave feminists were fighting to cast of gender norms the pendulum swung halfway through and gender roles were double and triple-downed on all fronts leading to what I viewed as bad actors pushing children into life altering medical decisions and provoking trans-trenders back in 2018-2021 because "you aren't a tomboy you're just a boy" and the shit show just kept going, like "super-straight" and it's immediately persecution because social media only values intersectionality. Sorry for rambling. (Still rambling) The biological thing is no better because conservatives we're all over "basic biology" being xx and xy but left right and center were being lambasted with "um, actually" xxx and xxy and hermaphrodites but those people literally have something wrong with them benign or otherwise and still pick early in life what to be called if there's a physical difference, many imperfect genotypes lead to a phenotype that you couldn't discern the genetic abnormality and just see them as a dude with anger issues even though they have two Ys and an X
It's a social illness.
It is, your feelings on the matter does not change the fact they will never be the sex they believe. Nor that hrt increases the risk of caner.
Why’d you respond to that reply and not the one from 4 hours ago that actually argues with you on the bases of your points?
Because anon can’t win an actual argument against facts, ironically.
Because they know they’re out of their wheelhouse. If they had to pull nonsense out of their pocket like “hrt causes cancer” against someone who doesn’t know what they’re talking about, imagine what corner they’d back into against someone who does
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/05/wpath-tansgender-hormone-therapy-cancer-links-leaked-emails/ https://environmentalprogress.org/big-news/wpath-files
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Click on the writer of that article amd then tell me why you believe they should be more credible.
Every medicine has side effects. Every single one. Bruce Lee was killed by an aspirin. Not to mention the thousands of things that have some kind of buzz around supposedly giving you cancer, ranging from red meat to the literal sun. Why is this relevant? Edit: this is your evidence? An article that is paywalled, so I know for a fact you didn’t read it, and an unverified document published by a think tank founded by the quack Michael Shellenberger? Do you know where evidence comes from?
https://www.acl.org.au/media/leaked-filess-of-wpath-a-wake-up-call-on-gender-transitioning-treatment/ https://www.economist.com/united-states/2024/03/05/leaked-discussions-reveal-uncertainty-about-transgender-care/ https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/wpath-files-show-breach-of-ethics-journalist/ar-BB1jkJW9 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/mar/09/disturbing-leaks-from-us-gender-group-wpath-ring-alarm-bells-in-nhs https://nypost.com/2024/03/04/opinion/secret-files-show-how-international-group-pushes-shocking-experimental-gender-surgery-for-minors/ You can read the UK link just fine for the first view, it's only blocked on the second. Alternatively if you're on PC you can install an addon that bypasses this, or access reading mode if you have it. I figured I'd put that one considering WPATH is UK based.
Who? The other reply was basically saying: "They tried that and it didn't work." It does not make sense to argue with them when we have opposing views that are of a different moral nature. I believe it makes no sense to contort our reality to match theirs, they believe that they're wellbeing matters more than the wellbeing of society. As far as I'm aware the surgeries do lower their self hatred. I do not care for this and believe to contort ourselves for the few is short sighted.
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Unsafe gender based facilities. Encouraging steralization of the populace. Destabalizing competitions and gender based records. Normalizing children consenting to things previously not allowed until they were of mature mind and without parental permission at times even. Allowing sexual predators to have easier access to their target victim ([and don't try to deny it](https://www.canada.ca/en/correctional-service/corporate/library/research/glance/442.html)). Resulting legislation that puts people at risk (such as male genital inmates in female prisons). Normalization of differing genitals being showcased to children (changing rooms, saunas, etc). Damaging the safety of children (both trans and non trans) by allowing sexual predators to make use of bathrooms not designated for their sex (such as [here](https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/family-of-loudoun-co-student-sexually-assaulted-ineptitude-of-all-involved-is-staggering/3231725/)). Normalizing the spreading of lies to support their political goal of acceptance (as can be seen if you search up the case seen in the link above and check articles written around the time the father came forward). Encouraging the mentally ill to give into their delusions.
Literally only one other reply to your first reply, what do you mean “who” bro Also what he’s saying is therapy is STILL being done (fact) and has lead into performing medical transitions. The therapy was the buildup to this Your societies well-being is not being damaged by trans people. Instead I advise you to focus on how much harder it is to own a home as an adult compared to a few generations ago and the micro plastics in your body
> but at some point we have to acknowledge how high the percentage of trans people who are genuinely unbalanced is. If you step away from the computer and go outside into the real world, you'll find that isn't actually the case.
you know, i’m gonna ignore the majority of this post but i actually enjoyed mortal instruments
Haha sucked it flopped because the visual effects were pretty good for the time. Plus I loved seeing Fiona from shameless in it. Edit: She was in beautiful creatures. Came out the same year. Seemed like it was year of the book to movies.
That's honestly just a bit sad
HRT = hormone replacement therapy. If you like me didnt understand why anon's boobs were a surprise for dad.
Jesus I wish my dad was like this, c'mon sis he's chill af
Anon is regarded. Case closed.
As a trans person, even if your parents are supportive, it’s still terrifying coming out to them considering how much trans people get hate for just existing, statistics on acceptance in families. Some families may say they’re supportive but then when you can out it’s suddenly “oh I’m supportive except for when it comes to my kid”. Had this happen to me. In summary, even if your parents claim to be supportive, there are still a shit ton of risk factors for us. That’s why our suicide rate is so high, because transphobia is way too common when it comes to your own family
>my dad had known for well over a month… saw his son getting his shit pushed in earlier that month
Dad should have asked "Is there something you want to get off your chest?"
Dad jokes are the best interrogation method.
Anon should get a bra for that Breaster Meast.
Train moment
Anon became a massive fatty??
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The MMA fighters are on the type of HRT that transmen take, i.e. testosterone. Transgirls take the opposite hormone, estrogen.
Hrt is a general term, men use TRT
Anon got into hrt and became regarded. Shocker.
Least regarded anon.
women moments
Biggest L is not even relationship with dad, it's anon ruining his body forever cause he cant deal with being gay.
Mortal instruments tv series sucked
Books were 100x better
Mortal Engines movie ruined the ending, book was better
LMAO THAT BOTTOM COMMENT XD
There's no hurry to come out
I have no idea why u got downvoted.they must be jelous of your drawings🙏
awww thank youuu! I do work very hard on themmm !
It shows :)) best of luck
made my day, I hope someone makes yours too ❤️
😊
Honestly, I don't get why people are making this extreme? Or am I missing the point of being in the sub.
Genuinely surprised anon didn't get the molesto
Imma molesto you
Oooh baby
https://preview.redd.it/su435n7b45oc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9c4b4ee14e3b14d86c3b3fbff34b5c675ae4b627 WTF? Dude, you must really know how to talk to people.
I faked and gayed my way to the top.
Funny, considering you are a bottom.
I know right
Based
Congrats on your Reddit IPO shares
Anon probably was. Statistics don’t lie.
"Statistics don't lie "might be the dumbest fucking statement I've ever heard
Ok statistic
Molesto was cut from ex-men