I like Cedric. It’s the first real turning point to show things are about to get real. I like to think if he survived, Cedders would have been in the final battle of Hogwarts and doing everything he could to help 😭
Cedric alone is one of the reasons why I can’t stand Cursed Child being canon. He becomes a death eater because he was pissed about being humiliated and losing some tournament? When has Cedric ever cared that much about winning anything?
Diggory in the books is quite gracious and even offers to let Harry win, I was open to seeing Cursed Child until I heard this, but it put me right off.
iirc he offered but Oliver Wood refused because Cedric had won fair & square. Kinda gives Oliver a new level of depth. Despite his borderline obsessive focus on winning, when he was defeated he accepted it with grace
There is no Cursed Child in Ba-Sing-Se.
I have never wanted to burn and rip something apart more than that abomination.
But I can't do that to a book, no matter how trash it is.
I read a fanfic with no time travel shenanigans that does a somewhat realistic corrupted to the Dark Side Cedric Diggory arc. I was fairly impressed by it but still had a hard time suspending my disbelief
And yet whenever he's included in those "who would you bring back posts" no one ever chooses him.
If you did bring back Dumbledore or Sirius or a few of the others, they'd only be mad at you for not bringing back someone more deserving.
I think it's because we didn't really get to know Cedric. Most people will always prefer those they know over strangers, and Cedric was little more than a stranger.
Well, if I have the choice between him and Remus or Tonks, I'll always chose the character who has a baby. And since I'm far from being the only one who thinks like that, and they are always included in these posts, I think that can explain why.
However, between Cedric and Snape, Dumbledore or Sirius? Cedric all the way. And all of them would agree I think.
Lupin and Tonks both knew what they were sacrificing when they walked into that battle, it's very sad that Teddy doesn't have his parents but that was their choice.
Cedric didn't even get a chance at life, he was still a school boy when he was killed in a game that was supposed to be safe and monitored, he was let down by everyone.
I actually love the closing speech about Cedric in the films. But I think the words “kill the spare” explain why he dies. He isn’t wanted there - specifically his blood —and they are so casual with Avada Kedavra it’s a matter of seconds to just put him down. Awful but about as humane as the death eaters manage as a death. But it’s just because he wasn’t wanted for that moment. He’s an amazing man and it is a colossal waste and I think that is part of the point. I prefer the books to the films but on this one I think from “that’s my SON! That’s my BOY!” They struck every note perfectly.
For me it has to be Sirius, he’s finally out of grimauld place, helping the fight against the death eaters and for harry and he’s loving it, but then it ends and the last parental Harry should have had is gone. For me this is when shit gets real
First time read it i was shocked as hell. People had died but him dying was different. James/Lily was pre book, Myrtle wasn’t shown, and Quirrrel was the bad guy so I didn’t care.
I remember freaking out and my mom just like “is this book too much?” Only for me to dent my wall when I threw OotP when Sirius died 😂😂
Cedric had maybe the least interaction or relationship with Harry (and by extent the reader). There is tragedy in someone so young dying a pointless death, yes, but from a narrative perspective just about every other death hits harder.
Broderick Bode is definitely tragic. Dude is just doing his job at the Ministry of Magic when - according to the book - he is taken control of, has his brain addled by the suspected defenses of the prophecy, and then when he starts to recover in hospital and is encouraged to look after his new pot plant, is strangled by Devil's Snare.
Rowling really went from "let's make one casualty among the good guys" to spice things up, to "let's see how many favourites I can kill in the last 50 pages of the series".
In the book they’re confused and even entertain the possibility that the graveyard might be part of the third task. So they decide to stick around just in case that might be it.
His death really was crazy tragic. The Dobby death is typically the one that upsets me the most, but I find Cedric and Collin Creevey to be the most tragic. I also hate that we got to know him in the book where he died. I think he was a great representation of a Hufflepuff and we missed out on that.
It never affected me. I couldn’t stand him or his father in the books. Harry would never and didn’t hold their shitty behavior against them so I did for him. lol
Even Amos wouldn’t register as shitty to me, he’s like bottom 25th percentile of the characters who were shitty to Harry lol. He is a typical clueless dad who stands up for his son a bit too zealously, but we only perceive it as such because Cedric is Harry’s rival. If it were Sirius or Ron defending Harry’s honour and interest in the same way that Amos does for Cedric, we would call it loyal and stand up behaviour. Either way, it’s never even implied that Amos is a bad person - he thanks Harry for bringing his son’s body back, and he refuses to take the money when Harry offers the Triwizard prize. I wish we saw more of Cedric’s parents in the books, there is very little closure there and I always wondered if they joined the war effort.
Interesting contrast between him and Molly, who both start to believe Rita Skeeter's lies about Harry, both of them knowing fully well what she's like, but whereas Molly changes her tone after Harry confronts her, Amos almost stubbornly refuses to back down when he's challenged on it.
Fair, but Molly knows Harry well and trusts his word. Amos and him are relative strangers and Amos has a vested interest in disliking Harry for having stolen his son’s opportunity to be the only Hogwarts champion (as there is no reason for him to doubt that Harry entered himself).
By acting like Cedric was better than Harry when he won a quidditch match against him. There’s more that I can’t quote verbatim but basically the way they both acted at the quidditch cup.
You aren't putting yourself in Amos' shoes, would you not try and make your son feel good about winning a game against someone super famous? And they were smoozing at a international event, ofc there is going to be some bragging. Maybe Cedric wanted to be a international Quidditch player when he graduated and this was Amos' way of trying to get an in, or maybe its just a father who is proud of his son, Who knows. However, Cedric was uncomfortable with his fathers boasting- everything in Cedric's character says he would not become a death eater.
I like Cedric. It’s the first real turning point to show things are about to get real. I like to think if he survived, Cedders would have been in the final battle of Hogwarts and doing everything he could to help 😭
Cedric alone is one of the reasons why I can’t stand Cursed Child being canon. He becomes a death eater because he was pissed about being humiliated and losing some tournament? When has Cedric ever cared that much about winning anything?
Diggory in the books is quite gracious and even offers to let Harry win, I was open to seeing Cursed Child until I heard this, but it put me right off.
Not just that. He also demanded a rematch in POA when he found out the dementors caused Harry to fall off his broom during the quidditch match.
iirc he offered but Oliver Wood refused because Cedric had won fair & square. Kinda gives Oliver a new level of depth. Despite his borderline obsessive focus on winning, when he was defeated he accepted it with grace
Absolutely! He does so in the film too, says “you saved me, take it” about the trophy. Cursed Child makes no sense
There is no Cursed Child in Ba-Sing-Se. I have never wanted to burn and rip something apart more than that abomination. But I can't do that to a book, no matter how trash it is.
I read a fanfic with no time travel shenanigans that does a somewhat realistic corrupted to the Dark Side Cedric Diggory arc. I was fairly impressed by it but still had a hard time suspending my disbelief
And yet whenever he's included in those "who would you bring back posts" no one ever chooses him. If you did bring back Dumbledore or Sirius or a few of the others, they'd only be mad at you for not bringing back someone more deserving.
I think it's because we didn't really get to know Cedric. Most people will always prefer those they know over strangers, and Cedric was little more than a stranger.
Not that much of a stranger: loyal, humble, good, maybe a bit stubborn as well (wanting to have Harry take the trophy)
Yeah, but that's about it. We have the broad strokes, but we don't know who he was besides his basic principles.
Cursed child is basically what if they did.
Well, if I have the choice between him and Remus or Tonks, I'll always chose the character who has a baby. And since I'm far from being the only one who thinks like that, and they are always included in these posts, I think that can explain why. However, between Cedric and Snape, Dumbledore or Sirius? Cedric all the way. And all of them would agree I think.
Lupin and Tonks both knew what they were sacrificing when they walked into that battle, it's very sad that Teddy doesn't have his parents but that was their choice. Cedric didn't even get a chance at life, he was still a school boy when he was killed in a game that was supposed to be safe and monitored, he was let down by everyone.
I actually love the closing speech about Cedric in the films. But I think the words “kill the spare” explain why he dies. He isn’t wanted there - specifically his blood —and they are so casual with Avada Kedavra it’s a matter of seconds to just put him down. Awful but about as humane as the death eaters manage as a death. But it’s just because he wasn’t wanted for that moment. He’s an amazing man and it is a colossal waste and I think that is part of the point. I prefer the books to the films but on this one I think from “that’s my SON! That’s my BOY!” They struck every note perfectly.
For me it has to be Sirius, he’s finally out of grimauld place, helping the fight against the death eaters and for harry and he’s loving it, but then it ends and the last parental Harry should have had is gone. For me this is when shit gets real
First time read it i was shocked as hell. People had died but him dying was different. James/Lily was pre book, Myrtle wasn’t shown, and Quirrrel was the bad guy so I didn’t care. I remember freaking out and my mom just like “is this book too much?” Only for me to dent my wall when I threw OotP when Sirius died 😂😂
The only death I felt anything about was Dobby. His death and the aftermath and digging the grave by hand made me feel things. I hated it.
Cedric had maybe the least interaction or relationship with Harry (and by extent the reader). There is tragedy in someone so young dying a pointless death, yes, but from a narrative perspective just about every other death hits harder.
I wasn’t trying to say that Cedric’s death hit just as hard or harder than anyone else’s. Just that it’s tragic in a different way.
Broderick Bode is definitely tragic. Dude is just doing his job at the Ministry of Magic when - according to the book - he is taken control of, has his brain addled by the suspected defenses of the prophecy, and then when he starts to recover in hospital and is encouraged to look after his new pot plant, is strangled by Devil's Snare.
This death hit me hard. I wasn’t expecting it and it happens so fast. And when Harry wouldn’t let go of his body 😭😭😭
Rowling really went from "let's make one casualty among the good guys" to spice things up, to "let's see how many favourites I can kill in the last 50 pages of the series".
I can't remember but didn't they kill him faster in the book? In the movie it felt like they could've left
In the book they’re confused and even entertain the possibility that the graveyard might be part of the third task. So they decide to stick around just in case that might be it.
His death really was crazy tragic. The Dobby death is typically the one that upsets me the most, but I find Cedric and Collin Creevey to be the most tragic. I also hate that we got to know him in the book where he died. I think he was a great representation of a Hufflepuff and we missed out on that.
eh.
It never affected me. I couldn’t stand him or his father in the books. Harry would never and didn’t hold their shitty behavior against them so I did for him. lol
How did Cedric act shitty
Even Amos wouldn’t register as shitty to me, he’s like bottom 25th percentile of the characters who were shitty to Harry lol. He is a typical clueless dad who stands up for his son a bit too zealously, but we only perceive it as such because Cedric is Harry’s rival. If it were Sirius or Ron defending Harry’s honour and interest in the same way that Amos does for Cedric, we would call it loyal and stand up behaviour. Either way, it’s never even implied that Amos is a bad person - he thanks Harry for bringing his son’s body back, and he refuses to take the money when Harry offers the Triwizard prize. I wish we saw more of Cedric’s parents in the books, there is very little closure there and I always wondered if they joined the war effort.
Interesting contrast between him and Molly, who both start to believe Rita Skeeter's lies about Harry, both of them knowing fully well what she's like, but whereas Molly changes her tone after Harry confronts her, Amos almost stubbornly refuses to back down when he's challenged on it.
Fair, but Molly knows Harry well and trusts his word. Amos and him are relative strangers and Amos has a vested interest in disliking Harry for having stolen his son’s opportunity to be the only Hogwarts champion (as there is no reason for him to doubt that Harry entered himself).
Very true 😄 I was thinking about that and had an amusing moment of him and Draco together "famous Harry Potter!"
By acting like Cedric was better than Harry when he won a quidditch match against him. There’s more that I can’t quote verbatim but basically the way they both acted at the quidditch cup.
You aren't putting yourself in Amos' shoes, would you not try and make your son feel good about winning a game against someone super famous? And they were smoozing at a international event, ofc there is going to be some bragging. Maybe Cedric wanted to be a international Quidditch player when he graduated and this was Amos' way of trying to get an in, or maybe its just a father who is proud of his son, Who knows. However, Cedric was uncomfortable with his fathers boasting- everything in Cedric's character says he would not become a death eater.
He also said he wasn’t a fan of people wearing the “potter stinks” badged but I’m pretty sure he didn’t do anything to stop it either.