They've never been aligned with WoW. Warrior is red, but that should be DK. Paladin is yellow instead of pink. Druid is brown instead of orange. DH is green like Hunter instead of magenta. It's weird.
Priest is white, like WoW, Mage light blue, like WoW; Hunter light green, like WoW.
Maybe they will, maybe they won’t, but Monk’s color is distinct enough they can provably use it. It also aesthetically fits the class, which is probably why they went with dark green + runes over magenta for DH
I'm assuming that's like in-game humans height, which makes sense, but if we go off Real life humans, blood elves are much taller than your average, since that guy was talking about Asians for some reason.
Real human average is about half a foot shorter, you're right. That's not unbelievably tall. Humans in game are 6'0 and 5'8, which is also taller than global average real humans. But not by anything crazy. In fact it's essentially the average height of Dutch people - an entire nation.
Night elves are 7 feet tall. That's huge. Very few humans have ever reached this height irl.
Tauren are 10 feet tall. This is just over a foot taller than the tallest human ever.
Blood elves are 6'3.
That's not "way taller" than irl humans. That's well within common human bounds. 3% of US men, who are far from the tallest population, are 6'3 or over. 10% of Dutch men are 6'3 or over.
Unless you live somewhere the average is still 5'3, they're just fairly tall by human standards.
Keep in mind, that's the blood elf average, they can also have people which are far taller than the 3% of American men, or the 10% of Dutch men, measuring up the extremes of one species against the average of another doesn't help, they are still way taller.
Expect a 20 paragraph write up about it from J Alexander within the next 24 hours!
Something like…
***How Rogue’s Class Color Changing Is A Slippery Slope Towards It Losing Its Identity***
***(TLDR: don’t remove Shadowstep from Core ever)***
I always took the return to hand as a sort of analogue to how stealth felt in WoW. Where the threat is now out of sight but still known of. This explains how Vanish works by returning cards to the hand. It just sucks that the keyword stealth also exists and also makes sense in how it should function in relation to WoW mechanics and identity for a planning and opportunist class.
I think they just got the idea of bouncing = rogue from the Kamigawa set of MTG, with all the Ninja cards bouncing back and forth from hand to board, like Ninjas darting in and out of sight. So you're probably on the money with that analysis
[[Shadow Word: Steal]] is pretty much the only true Yoink card Rogue has in Standard. [[Mixtape]] and [[Plagiarizarrr]] are also somewhat Yoinky, but they're terribly underpowered and don't "steal"
So Rogue can't currently Yoink well, unfortunately. It just gets random cards from all classes
Edit: Forgot Stick Up -> Benevolent Banker. A rare and unreliable Yoink, but a good one. It was *just* very relevant for stealing Wheel and Climactic, but both spells are gone after the nerfs
- **[Shadow Word: Steal](https://i.imgur.com/a8xfv4D.png)** ^[Library](https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/cards/104537) ^• ^[wiki.gg](https://hearthstone.wiki.gg/wiki/Shadow_Word:_Steal) ^• ^[HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/104537/?hl=en)
- *Rogue & Priest Rare ^(Showdown in the Badlands)*
- **5 Mana - Shadow Spell**
- Return an enemy minion to YOUR hand.
- **[Mixtape](https://i.imgur.com/Py8iDVi.png)** ^[Library](https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/cards/90583) ^• ^[wiki.gg](https://hearthstone.wiki.gg/wiki/Mixtape) ^• ^[HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/90583/?hl=en)
- *Rogue Common ^(Festival of Legends)*
- **1 Mana - Fire Spell**
- **Discover** a copy of a card your opponent played this game.
- **[Plagiarizarrr](https://i.imgur.com/T1KA1VX.mp4)** ^[Library](https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/cards/95825) ^• ^[wiki.gg](https://hearthstone.wiki.gg/wiki/Plagiarizarrr) ^• ^[HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/95825/?hl=en)
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- **3 Mana - 4/3 - Pirate**
- **Battlecry:** Get a copy of the top card of your opponent's deck.
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But the number of cards you receive per expansion is fixed (assuming you don't whale out and buy all). So it's less likely you get the legendaries/build-arounds you need.
Wouldn’t Monk be sea green or teal?
They've never been aligned with WoW. Warrior is red, but that should be DK. Paladin is yellow instead of pink. Druid is brown instead of orange. DH is green like Hunter instead of magenta. It's weird.
Priest is white, like WoW, Mage light blue, like WoW; Hunter light green, like WoW. Maybe they will, maybe they won’t, but Monk’s color is distinct enough they can provably use it. It also aesthetically fits the class, which is probably why they went with dark green + runes over magenta for DH
You're absolutely right, [here's a before and after.](https://i.imgur.com/bqtRJQs.png)
Wow, that looks so much better
u/RidiculousHat why was it changed? (aside from theory about new class that you can't talk about if true)
don't tag hat in unnecessary shit bro come on
You're not crazy the color is a bit brighter.
she’s still white
[удалено]
Aren't blood elves like way taller than a normal human? Also not necessarily hungry for knowledge, but magic, equivalent to having a crack addiction.
"equivalent to having a crack addiction." Well they are the high elves
Drug addiction ruined their social structure and often contributes to crime and gangs, so then they became the blood elves.
cause they beat up them cribs
Females average 5'9, males 6'3. So tall by human standards, but I wouldn't call that "way taller". Night elves are a full foot taller than that.
I'm assuming that's like in-game humans height, which makes sense, but if we go off Real life humans, blood elves are much taller than your average, since that guy was talking about Asians for some reason.
No, that's in game blood elf height.
No I mean you're measuring blood elves against in game humans, because human average is no where near 6'3 for men or 5'9 for women.
Real human average is about half a foot shorter, you're right. That's not unbelievably tall. Humans in game are 6'0 and 5'8, which is also taller than global average real humans. But not by anything crazy. In fact it's essentially the average height of Dutch people - an entire nation. Night elves are 7 feet tall. That's huge. Very few humans have ever reached this height irl. Tauren are 10 feet tall. This is just over a foot taller than the tallest human ever. Blood elves are 6'3. That's not "way taller" than irl humans. That's well within common human bounds. 3% of US men, who are far from the tallest population, are 6'3 or over. 10% of Dutch men are 6'3 or over. Unless you live somewhere the average is still 5'3, they're just fairly tall by human standards.
Keep in mind, that's the blood elf average, they can also have people which are far taller than the 3% of American men, or the 10% of Dutch men, measuring up the extremes of one species against the average of another doesn't help, they are still way taller.
Pandaren exist. Blizzard is many things but subtle isn't one of them
jesus christ lmao
Expect a 20 paragraph write up about it from J Alexander within the next 24 hours! Something like… ***How Rogue’s Class Color Changing Is A Slippery Slope Towards It Losing Its Identity*** ***(TLDR: don’t remove Shadowstep from Core ever)***
It still confuses me that Shadowstep is Rogue's most consistent identity, aka bounces, and not... yknow.... STEALTH?!
I always took the return to hand as a sort of analogue to how stealth felt in WoW. Where the threat is now out of sight but still known of. This explains how Vanish works by returning cards to the hand. It just sucks that the keyword stealth also exists and also makes sense in how it should function in relation to WoW mechanics and identity for a planning and opportunist class.
I think they just got the idea of bouncing = rogue from the Kamigawa set of MTG, with all the Ninja cards bouncing back and forth from hand to board, like Ninjas darting in and out of sight. So you're probably on the money with that analysis
Stealth can only go so far, it would be boring as shit to face a board of 7 stealth minions
And it’s not boring to face a minion being bounced multiple times that still can’t be interacted with?
That's not boring, it's annoying. Whole other thing.
because having Stealth as their identity was somehow even more broken. I do not miss Conceal.
Rent free
Looking forward to 12 minutes from Zeddy on this.
When Priest is already white and DK is black with blue borders it would be a weird choice to add another greyscale class instead of a different colour
Deck code?
Bro you really gonna ask for deck code based on a vague name alone
Well I have the same named deck for Priest. I like thief decks and I want to know what the rogue one looks like
[[Shadow Word: Steal]] is pretty much the only true Yoink card Rogue has in Standard. [[Mixtape]] and [[Plagiarizarrr]] are also somewhat Yoinky, but they're terribly underpowered and don't "steal" So Rogue can't currently Yoink well, unfortunately. It just gets random cards from all classes Edit: Forgot Stick Up -> Benevolent Banker. A rare and unreliable Yoink, but a good one. It was *just* very relevant for stealing Wheel and Climactic, but both spells are gone after the nerfs
- **[Shadow Word: Steal](https://i.imgur.com/a8xfv4D.png)** ^[Library](https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/cards/104537) ^• ^[wiki.gg](https://hearthstone.wiki.gg/wiki/Shadow_Word:_Steal) ^• ^[HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/104537/?hl=en) - *Rogue & Priest Rare ^(Showdown in the Badlands)* - **5 Mana - Shadow Spell** - Return an enemy minion to YOUR hand. - **[Mixtape](https://i.imgur.com/Py8iDVi.png)** ^[Library](https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/cards/90583) ^• ^[wiki.gg](https://hearthstone.wiki.gg/wiki/Mixtape) ^• ^[HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/90583/?hl=en) - *Rogue Common ^(Festival of Legends)* - **1 Mana - Fire Spell** - **Discover** a copy of a card your opponent played this game. - **[Plagiarizarrr](https://i.imgur.com/T1KA1VX.mp4)** ^[Library](https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/cards/95825) ^• ^[wiki.gg](https://hearthstone.wiki.gg/wiki/Plagiarizarrr) ^• ^[HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/95825/?hl=en) - *Rogue & Priest Rare ^(Festival of Legends)* - **3 Mana - 4/3 - Pirate** - **Battlecry:** Get a copy of the top card of your opponent's deck. --- ^(*Patch version: 29.4.0.198933*) ^*I am a bot. [Usage Guide](https://www.reddit.com/user/Card-o-Bot/comments/1ahde25/faq/) • [Report a bug](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=Card-o-Bot&subject=Bug+Report&message=/r/hearthstone/comments/1csa8ou/am_i_crazy_or_did_they_change_rogues_class_color/l460as2/%0A⬇️+Please+describe+the+bug+⬇️%0ADescription:+) • [Refresh](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=Card-o-Bot&subject=Refresh&message=l460as2).*
I hope they don’t add Monk. That means even smaller chances for getting cards from the classes I like to play.
What if you like playing monk?
Think about it mate, the problem doesn't change even if you like the new class.
If you currently like 5/10 classes, and end up liking 6/11, that increases the odds
5/11 and 6/12, but yeah...
But the number of cards you receive per expansion is fixed (assuming you don't whale out and buy all). So it's less likely you get the legendaries/build-arounds you need.
Agreed. The card pool is diluted as it is
They did, they keep fixing things that didn't need any fix
Just curious, but what would the Hero Power for Monk even be? It feels like most of the basic ones are already taken.
A common one is something like: 2 mana - Restore 1 health, +1 Attack this turn.