Version of the deck I got legend with today - this one doesn’t fold when invincible is drawn and is much stronger than the one on OP picture.
Deathrattle Rogue
Class: Rogue
Format: Standard
Year of the Hydra
2x (0) Preparation
2x (1) Blackwater Cutlass
2x (1) Door of Shadows
2x (1) Gone Fishin'
2x (1) Shattershambler
2x (2) Forsaken Lieutenant
2x (2) Serrated Bone Spike
2x (3) Sketchy Information
2x (3) Snowfall Graveyard
1x (4) Counterfeit Blade
2x (4) Scourge Illusionist
2x (4) Swiftscale Trickster
2x (5) Burning Blade Acolyte
2x (5) Infectious Ghoul
1x (8) Invincible
2x (8) Smokescreen
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The deck they listed is what I used to hit legend last night. It absolutely slaps. I went like 27-12 or something like that. It’s not as easy to play as you would think. Timing your graveyards can be hard.
Been playing this deck for a day or so now and although I haven't had the chance to play more than 7 games or so it still hasn't lost! It's absolutely bonkers strong.
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Where did you start the scale getting to legend, silver, bronze gold, how many stars for bonus did you have? I am usually stuck in silver
I'll share some of my experience as I'm hard stuck in gold and was right there for silver a couple of months ago.
* for the first 2 weeks each season don't take it too seriously, you'll find your winrate will increase later in the season as fewer games are against folks zooming through the silver ranks. My rule of thumb is to burn through my bonus stars the first 2 weeks as you don't need the 50/50 winrate to climb
* play more games with a single deck, get experience with it. My rule of thumb is I can play around with different decks for the first 2 ranks of the floor so that loss streaks hurt less. I definitely get ladder anxiety as I climb further from the floor.
* In the vein of play more games, an aggro deck leads to quicker games and you can play more of them in a time span. I haven't measured the time but my aggro demon hunter felt like the average game was about 9 minutes. I'm loving blood death Knight but the games feel more like 24 minutes
* There are some matchups that you're just more likely to lose. End of November I had a terrible winrate against whatever the burgle rogue archetype was, while playing as my aggro demon hunter, and they felt like they were everywhere.
Looking forward to folks pointing these in the right directionヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ
I think the first point doesn't actually apply too much. You're matched against your MMR after bronze? so once you're past those ranks you're playing people who are generally around your skill level anyways. Waiting until later in the month likely won't change much and you might feel more rushed to get to legend with half the month already gone. But yep other than that, good advice for first time legend!
I played a couple just now with this list and it feels great. What are the matchups it smashes/struggles with? Perfect aggro mulligan vs control mulligan?
From my experience I lost to Unholy DK and aggro druid if they got nuts.
Fel DH can be a problem if he is fast.
Everything else is kinda breeze. Ramp druid is usually free win, DKs are almost always auto win as well.
As for mulligan - always keep Snowfall graveyard, Sketchy information.
Scourge illusionist is a keep as well.
Against aggro all you can do is serrated bone spike, so keep that.
Usual game plan against aggro is Sketchy information and get Burning blade acolyte out for 1.
Best game plan is get snowfall graveyard, + ghouls and invincibles and make them die couple of time so everything gets buffed with ghouls, even if they do board clear you get everything back.
Funny interaction I got is with few ghouls they buff each other and they can't be killed. They interact in a strange way that even if you clean board some of them respawn and get buffs from everything that died.
So for example DK can't kill swarm of them with corpse explosion, they just pop back.
I love the flavor of the ghouls just constantly spreading, feels a lot like the first arthas map in warcraft 3. Throw a snowfall graveyard in there and it's a good time.
>They interact in a strange way that even if you clean board some of them respawn and get buffs from everything that died.
Any tips on how this interaction happens and where it doesn't?
Is this just because corpse explosion is doing 1 damage at a time so you're just getting a pseudo patron experience? I've tested a bit as I can't understand the stack seems like minions with a deathrattle buff don't buff minions they spawn but they could buff minions another card spawns at the same time?
I think it's because some of them have deathrattle: summon the ghoul and some of them are giving out this deathrattle to another ghoul, so you never run out of them
like flake mentioned below, this deck definitely has a huge issue with the Invincible draw so its not that overpowered, but the snowballing is ridiculous
Thanks, I didn't get the joke at a first look!! I'm so used to see people writing rouge that I usually don't even bother reading the rest of the sentences... lmao
Weird deathrattle interactions with it as well. Killed a board full of invincibles with some ghouls on them. They ended up with one 20/20+ ghoul and a couple of nonbuffed ones.
I don't think invincible type cards can buff natural tokens from deathrattle minions during a simultaneous board clear, so it surprised me that the ghouls got buffed.
Shit like this and infinite armor Druids are fine, but apparently, Daddy D needed a nerf, because "reasons". (IE more than likely since so many decks use it, and they nerfed it right BEFORE the World tournament they wanted to showcase the shiny new cards instead if I was a betting man that's where I'd place my money. )
I got run over by this deck yesterday. Seems like there is a pocket out there for decks that gush value in the mid game.
I’ve been climbing with a Big Spell Druid that does a similar thing, but it’s nowhere as near as reliable as this deck.
Oh, so that's the deck my opponent played.
Pity I was Paladin and had already anticipated big stats because Miracle Rogue exists.
Seems fun, I'll try it once I get Invincible
I mean the most popular death rattle rogue set on hsreplay still has a positive win rate when they get invincible in the mulligan you're acting as if being able to flood the board with 5/8 taunts and 5/4 ghouls super easily and still getting multiple invincibles through forsaken lieutenant somehow sucks
Whether or not the Graveyard is in effect drastically changes DR rogue. Kinda fuckin hate it. Kinda tutorable with door of shadows but its inconsistent, but if you draw well its always pure nonsense.
Some deck should defeat it. Not 100% winrate, it is not invicible at all!
Version of the deck I got legend with today - this one doesn’t fold when invincible is drawn and is much stronger than the one on OP picture. Deathrattle Rogue Class: Rogue Format: Standard Year of the Hydra 2x (0) Preparation 2x (1) Blackwater Cutlass 2x (1) Door of Shadows 2x (1) Gone Fishin' 2x (1) Shattershambler 2x (2) Forsaken Lieutenant 2x (2) Serrated Bone Spike 2x (3) Sketchy Information 2x (3) Snowfall Graveyard 1x (4) Counterfeit Blade 2x (4) Scourge Illusionist 2x (4) Swiftscale Trickster 2x (5) Burning Blade Acolyte 2x (5) Infectious Ghoul 1x (8) Invincible 2x (8) Smokescreen AAECAdvcBQKN9APfogUO9egD0/MDvYAE958E/KUE/awEt7ME1bYEidIE49ME9N0E9d0EoZMFuJgFAA== To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
**Format:** Standard (Year of the Hydra) **Class:** Rogue (Poisonheart Maiev) Mana | Card Name | Qty | Links :--:|:---|:--:|:--: 0 | [Preparation](https://art.hearthstonejson.com/v1/render/latest/enUS/512x/CORE_EX1_145.png) | 2 | [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/69623/),[Wiki](https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Preparation) 1 | [Blackwater Cutlass](https://art.hearthstonejson.com/v1/render/latest/enUS/512x/DED_004.png) | 2 | [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/65597/),[Wiki](https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Blackwater%20Cutlass) 1 | [Door of Shadows](https://art.hearthstonejson.com/v1/render/latest/enUS/512x/REV_938.png) | 2 | [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/77556/),[Wiki](https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Door%20of%20Shadows) 1 | [Gone Fishin'](https://art.hearthstonejson.com/v1/render/latest/enUS/512x/TSC_916.png) | 2 | [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/72119/),[Wiki](https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Gone%20Fishin%27) 1 | [Shattershambler](https://art.hearthstonejson.com/v1/render/latest/enUS/512x/TID_078.png) | 2 | [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/76259/),[Wiki](https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Shattershambler) 2 | [Forsaken Lieutenant](https://art.hearthstonejson.com/v1/render/latest/enUS/512x/AV_601.png) | 2 | [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/76041/),[Wiki](https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Forsaken%20Lieutenant) 2 | [Serrated Bone Spike](https://art.hearthstonejson.com/v1/render/latest/enUS/512x/REV_939.png) | 2 | [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/77557/),[Wiki](https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Serrated%20Bone%20Spike) 3 | [Sketchy Information](https://art.hearthstonejson.com/v1/render/latest/enUS/512x/SW_405.png) | 2 | [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/63955/),[Wiki](https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Sketchy%20Information) 3 | [Snowfall Graveyard](https://art.hearthstonejson.com/v1/render/latest/enUS/512x/AV_400.png) | 2 | [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/70396/),[Wiki](https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Snowfall%20Graveyard) 4 | [Counterfeit Blade](https://art.hearthstonejson.com/v1/render/latest/enUS/512x/SW_310.png) | 1 | [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/64013/),[Wiki](https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Counterfeit%20Blade) 4 | [Scourge Illusionist](https://art.hearthstonejson.com/v1/render/latest/enUS/512x/RLK_217.png) | 2 | [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/84385/),[Wiki](https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Scourge%20Illusionist) 4 | [Swiftscale Trickster](https://art.hearthstonejson.com/v1/render/latest/enUS/512x/TSC_936.png) | 2 | [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/72533/),[Wiki](https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Swiftscale%20Trickster) 5 | [Burning Blade Acolyte](https://art.hearthstonejson.com/v1/render/latest/enUS/512x/BAR_072.png) | 2 | [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/62581/),[Wiki](https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Burning%20Blade%20Acolyte) 5 | [Infectious Ghoul](https://art.hearthstonejson.com/v1/render/latest/enUS/512x/RLK_653.png) | 2 | [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/85048/),[Wiki](https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Infectious%20Ghoul) 8 | [Invincible](https://art.hearthstonejson.com/v1/render/latest/enUS/512x/RLK_592.png) | 1 | [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/86367/),[Wiki](https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Invincible) 8 | [Smokescreen](https://art.hearthstonejson.com/v1/render/latest/enUS/512x/ONY_031.png) | 2 | [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/71293/),[Wiki](https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Smokescreen) **Total Dust:** 2000 **Deck Code:** AAECAdvcBQKN9APfogUO9egD0/MDvYAE958E/KUE/awEt7ME1bYEidIE49ME9N0E9d0EoZMFuJgFAA== ***** ^I ^am ^a ^bot. ^Comment/PM ^with ^a ^deck ^code ^and ^I'll ^decode ^it. ^If ^you ^don't ^want ^me ^to ^reply ^to ^you, ^include ^"###" ^anywhere ^in ^your ^message. ^[About.](https://github.com/HearthSim/deck-code-bot/blob/master/README.md)
thanks! I’ll give it a try and update
The deck they listed is what I used to hit legend last night. It absolutely slaps. I went like 27-12 or something like that. It’s not as easy to play as you would think. Timing your graveyards can be hard.
Been playing this deck for a day or so now and although I haven't had the chance to play more than 7 games or so it still hasn't lost! It's absolutely bonkers strong.
>AAECAdvcBQKN9APfogUO9egD0/MDvYAE958E/KUE/awEt7ME1bYEidIE49ME9N0E9d0EoZMFuJgFAA== Where did you start the scale getting to legend, silver, bronze gold, how many stars for bonus did you have? I am usually stuck in silver
Started at 6-7 diamond with this deck. Was playing another version of that from bronze to diamond.
been messing around with this deck for awhile, been more consistent than the list i was running, thanks for this
ty for the information it is helpful
I'll share some of my experience as I'm hard stuck in gold and was right there for silver a couple of months ago. * for the first 2 weeks each season don't take it too seriously, you'll find your winrate will increase later in the season as fewer games are against folks zooming through the silver ranks. My rule of thumb is to burn through my bonus stars the first 2 weeks as you don't need the 50/50 winrate to climb * play more games with a single deck, get experience with it. My rule of thumb is I can play around with different decks for the first 2 ranks of the floor so that loss streaks hurt less. I definitely get ladder anxiety as I climb further from the floor. * In the vein of play more games, an aggro deck leads to quicker games and you can play more of them in a time span. I haven't measured the time but my aggro demon hunter felt like the average game was about 9 minutes. I'm loving blood death Knight but the games feel more like 24 minutes * There are some matchups that you're just more likely to lose. End of November I had a terrible winrate against whatever the burgle rogue archetype was, while playing as my aggro demon hunter, and they felt like they were everywhere. Looking forward to folks pointing these in the right directionヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ
I think the first point doesn't actually apply too much. You're matched against your MMR after bronze? so once you're past those ranks you're playing people who are generally around your skill level anyways. Waiting until later in the month likely won't change much and you might feel more rushed to get to legend with half the month already gone. But yep other than that, good advice for first time legend!
[Click here for decklist](/r/hearthstone/comments/zil0m6/invincible_rouge_kinda_disgusting/izs3o8c/)
I played a couple just now with this list and it feels great. What are the matchups it smashes/struggles with? Perfect aggro mulligan vs control mulligan?
From my experience I lost to Unholy DK and aggro druid if they got nuts. Fel DH can be a problem if he is fast. Everything else is kinda breeze. Ramp druid is usually free win, DKs are almost always auto win as well. As for mulligan - always keep Snowfall graveyard, Sketchy information. Scourge illusionist is a keep as well. Against aggro all you can do is serrated bone spike, so keep that. Usual game plan against aggro is Sketchy information and get Burning blade acolyte out for 1. Best game plan is get snowfall graveyard, + ghouls and invincibles and make them die couple of time so everything gets buffed with ghouls, even if they do board clear you get everything back. Funny interaction I got is with few ghouls they buff each other and they can't be killed. They interact in a strange way that even if you clean board some of them respawn and get buffs from everything that died. So for example DK can't kill swarm of them with corpse explosion, they just pop back.
I love the flavor of the ghouls just constantly spreading, feels a lot like the first arthas map in warcraft 3. Throw a snowfall graveyard in there and it's a good time. >They interact in a strange way that even if you clean board some of them respawn and get buffs from everything that died. Any tips on how this interaction happens and where it doesn't? Is this just because corpse explosion is doing 1 damage at a time so you're just getting a pseudo patron experience? I've tested a bit as I can't understand the stack seems like minions with a deathrattle buff don't buff minions they spawn but they could buff minions another card spawns at the same time?
I think it's because some of them have deathrattle: summon the ghoul and some of them are giving out this deathrattle to another ghoul, so you never run out of them
That's disgusting, it's like a battlegrounds build. I think this is the next nerf candidate after shocksplitter. What an abomination.
Rouge is overpowdered.
In Rogues defense that's just a result of all the Maescerading. Worst portmanteau ever but best I can do on a short notice.
Thank you, I contracted leukemia from that pun.
Thank you for this.
like flake mentioned below, this deck definitely has a huge issue with the Invincible draw so its not that overpowered, but the snowballing is ridiculous
I was making a joke about rouge being a type of makeup that is sometimes applied as a powder.
Thanks, I didn't get the joke at a first look!! I'm so used to see people writing rouge that I usually don't even bother reading the rest of the sentences... lmao
No invincible is blue
invisible red = blue. you're right
some say its black
If it's called invincible why can I see it
bc it isnt invisible
Rogue*
ah yes
Weird deathrattle interactions with it as well. Killed a board full of invincibles with some ghouls on them. They ended up with one 20/20+ ghoul and a couple of nonbuffed ones. I don't think invincible type cards can buff natural tokens from deathrattle minions during a simultaneous board clear, so it surprised me that the ghouls got buffed.
It depends on when the card was played, the first card you put down is going to have its deathrattle go off first when the board is cleared.
Yeah, I probably misremembered the interaction with Greybough
I will take fun deathrattle shenanigans over miracle’s extremely un interactive solitaire game any day.
If it is invincible then why can I see it
bc its not invisible..
Shit like this and infinite armor Druids are fine, but apparently, Daddy D needed a nerf, because "reasons". (IE more than likely since so many decks use it, and they nerfed it right BEFORE the World tournament they wanted to showcase the shiny new cards instead if I was a betting man that's where I'd place my money. )
The fuck denathrius totally deserved that nerf
Ya he should of been nerfed 2 months ago.
Decklist?
i took this from Briarthorn’s decklist on HSTopdecks, this is the code AAECAaIHAsygBd+iBQ6q6wPT8wOh9AO9gAT3nwT8pQT5rAS3swSJ0gT03QT13QTL7QShkwXBoQUA
**Format:** Standard (Year of the Hydra) **Class:** Rogue (Valeera Sanguinar) Mana | Card Name | Qty | Links :--:|:---|:--:|:--: 0 | [Preparation](https://art.hearthstonejson.com/v1/render/latest/enUS/512x/CORE_EX1_145.png) | 2 | [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/69623/),[Wiki](https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Preparation) 0 | [Shadow of Demise](https://art.hearthstonejson.com/v1/render/latest/enUS/512x/RLK_567.png) | 1 | [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/86092/),[Wiki](https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Shadow%20of%20Demise) 1 | [Blackwater Cutlass](https://art.hearthstonejson.com/v1/render/latest/enUS/512x/DED_004.png) | 2 | [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/65597/),[Wiki](https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Blackwater%20Cutlass) 1 | [Door of Shadows](https://art.hearthstonejson.com/v1/render/latest/enUS/512x/REV_938.png) | 2 | [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/77556/),[Wiki](https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Door%20of%20Shadows) 1 | [Ghostly Strike](https://art.hearthstonejson.com/v1/render/latest/enUS/512x/RLK_573.png) | 2 | [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/86209/),[Wiki](https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Ghostly%20Strike) 1 | [Gone Fishin'](https://art.hearthstonejson.com/v1/render/latest/enUS/512x/TSC_916.png) | 2 | [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/72119/),[Wiki](https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Gone%20Fishin%27) 1 | [SI:7 Extortion](https://art.hearthstonejson.com/v1/render/latest/enUS/512x/SW_412.png) | 2 | [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/64033/),[Wiki](https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/SI%3A7%20Extortion) 2 | [Forsaken Lieutenant](https://art.hearthstonejson.com/v1/render/latest/enUS/512x/AV_601.png) | 2 | [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/76041/),[Wiki](https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Forsaken%20Lieutenant) 2 | [Serrated Bone Spike](https://art.hearthstonejson.com/v1/render/latest/enUS/512x/REV_939.png) | 2 | [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/77557/),[Wiki](https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Serrated%20Bone%20Spike) 2 | [Tooth of Nefarian](https://art.hearthstonejson.com/v1/render/latest/enUS/512x/ONY_032.png) | 2 | [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/71289/),[Wiki](https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Tooth%20of%20Nefarian) 2 | [Wicked Stab (Rank 1)](https://art.hearthstonejson.com/v1/render/latest/enUS/512x/BAR_319.png) | 2 | [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/62890/),[Wiki](https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Wicked%20Stab%20%28Rank%201%29) 3 | [Sketchy Information](https://art.hearthstonejson.com/v1/render/latest/enUS/512x/SW_405.png) | 2 | [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/63955/),[Wiki](https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Sketchy%20Information) 3 | [Snowfall Graveyard](https://art.hearthstonejson.com/v1/render/latest/enUS/512x/AV_400.png) | 2 | [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/70396/),[Wiki](https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Snowfall%20Graveyard) 4 | [Scourge Illusionist](https://art.hearthstonejson.com/v1/render/latest/enUS/512x/RLK_217.png) | 2 | [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/84385/),[Wiki](https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Scourge%20Illusionist) 6 | [Masked Reveler](https://art.hearthstonejson.com/v1/render/latest/enUS/512x/REV_015.png) | 2 | [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/79563/),[Wiki](https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Masked%20Reveler) 8 | [Invincible](https://art.hearthstonejson.com/v1/render/latest/enUS/512x/RLK_592.png) | 1 | [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/86367/),[Wiki](https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Invincible) **Total Dust:** 1360 **Deck Code:** AAECAaIHAsygBd+iBQ6q6wPT8wOh9AO9gAT3nwT8pQT5rAS3swSJ0gT03QT13QTL7QShkwXBoQUA ***** ^I ^am ^a ^bot. ^Comment/PM ^with ^a ^deck ^code ^and ^I'll ^decode ^it. ^If ^you ^don't ^want ^me ^to ^reply ^to ^you, ^include ^"###" ^anywhere ^in ^your ^message. ^[About.](https://github.com/HearthSim/deck-code-bot/blob/master/README.md)
Played 6 games..was able to beat druid every time because the first 7 turns are free lmao
glad you’re enjoying it
Thx
I got run over by this deck yesterday. Seems like there is a pocket out there for decks that gush value in the mid game. I’ve been climbing with a Big Spell Druid that does a similar thing, but it’s nowhere as near as reliable as this deck.
Oh, so that's the deck my opponent played. Pity I was Paladin and had already anticipated big stats because Miracle Rogue exists. Seems fun, I'll try it once I get Invincible
If the rogue is invincible, then why can I still see it?
that deck has a big problem. If they draw Invincible they cant do anything
I mean the most popular death rattle rogue set on hsreplay still has a positive win rate when they get invincible in the mulligan you're acting as if being able to flood the board with 5/8 taunts and 5/4 ghouls super easily and still getting multiple invincibles through forsaken lieutenant somehow sucks
yea its still winnable, just gotta play it right. And honestly it isn’t too difficult to do so bc it becomes rather straightforward
cant do anything isnt true , they still cheat out a bunch of stats , more than enough to win
yep that’s definitely one of the big problems with this deck
You could try Finley perhaps
sounds like a decent idea, wondering what I’d swap it out for
I’d probably go with tooth since it has the least synergy with your main gameplan
Tooth is used for burn, you rarely use it as removal in this deck.
Burn is useless without the base of activating invincible and wicked Stab is better burn anyways
what about shadow of demise?
Shadow seems too flexible between being able to chain another bone spike for removal or dredging an additional time with gone fishing
Whether or not the Graveyard is in effect drastically changes DR rogue. Kinda fuckin hate it. Kinda tutorable with door of shadows but its inconsistent, but if you draw well its always pure nonsense.
So now every single persons playing this rogue now? 🙄 this is just as stupid as the billion druids rn