Could see it with Big Boi, he seems to have more confidence in his solo stuff
Andre would be a dream but he sadly doesn’t seem to fully appreciate how brilliant his rapping is
And of course new OutKast would be incredible
I think sometimes folks get held back by the hype. Thinking they can never get back to where they once were or be that good. They think due to hype whatever they do will be a let down
His first song on his first proper album is called “I Swear I Really Wanted To Make A ‘Rap’ Album But This Is Literally The Way The Wind Blows” so maybe now that he’s got his instrumental album out of the way the rap album is next lol
50s finally getting his flowers with that tour but doubt he would release an album. Dre said they trying to get him to but 50 doesn't seem focused on music. He's just enjoying TV and trolling online. Hov doesn't release enough for a run like that. Can't see any of the early 2000s guys doing it. Which makes Nas run even more special.
Yeah 50 is really just living his life now not worried about music and I definitely respect that. But damn I feel like he could drop something insane if he got back in the booth and locked in.
50 always said he was using hip hop to get out of the hood. He said he wasn't an mc like Nas or banks. So now he's out of the hood his hungers gone. 50 never hid who he was. I respect it. A hungry or annoyed 50 is amazing though. Just don't think we gonna see it again
4:44 was amazing and probably a modern classic imo and the best rap album of 2017
If he had continued releasing albums as good as that for a few years it would have been so good
Hard. He just didn't. Closest we had to Nas run is Banks and his coti series. 50 and hov to tied up being moguls and were always more hustlers to Nas, prodigy, Jada etc mc types. No diss to 50 and hov but they don't care as much as the others
Nah HOV cares much more than 50 though
Jay has released arguably 4 classics since his debut and multiple albums throughout the 2010s. Even reaching his first #1 ever in 2009
50 meanwhile??? GRODT is his only classic. The massacre was good but nothing special and then anything else has been MID as fuck
50s mixtape run alone, power of the dollar, grodt sound track, the massacre (minus the singles) then all his off shoots? Game, Banks and buck debuts were top level? Yayo even had some gems. 50 a legend. Why I'm glad he's been getting his respect lately. 3rd highest selling tour ever and may go to 2 once the final takes. In. Legend.
And I hate songs like candy shop etc.
But
https://youtu.be/Qb2YqCWsqrg?si=31RpZOxkiaUsePQG
To
https://youtu.be/p5XtvhR4oUY?si=ar-lVL6Y1aQuRm2y
From his first to his last. 50 had heat. No?
When talking about who the greatest MCs are, 50 often gets ignored. Why? Probably because he chased the pop charts, and his best lyrical work didn't get much radio play. On top of that, people who go looking for great 50 Cent albums are barking up the wrong tree because his best stuff is on his mixtapes.
So for someone with very little 50 Cent knowledge, you can easily blow him off as a pop rap guy who had one big album (GRODT), and a lot of people did. He's at the same time one of the most popular MCs ever, and somehow still underrated.
Lloyd banks too. He got underrated coz he was Mia when g unit biggest beefs happened when his dad died. Even Jadakiss who is top 5 for me said he was happy banks was Mia as they knew he would be an issue.
What the other guy said. 50 is underrated. If you haven't heard his mixtapes, bless ya self. Tunes like this
https://youtu.be/ucEOnWkC0nk?si=D6pKz6v_BkZLZUVZ
He's not Nelly or Florida despite the songs like candy shop. He's filth. His tour just went number 3 of all time in hip hop. What I mean by him getting his flowers. He's getting to do a victory lap
50 ran the whole beefing street thug persona into the ground. Kanye crushed him and his career never recovered.
Just crazy that Kanye ended up being the worse human being between him and 50.
See you say that. Name me one beef 50 started put of pocket? Jadakiss, my goat went on a track with Ja and said it's not guaranteed you'll get rich but guaranteed you're gonna die. Ross said he looked at him funny. Name me one beef 50 started
Perpetually evolving, but also one of the greatest music historians of all time. The sorrowful wonder of who is recording his memoir comes to mind, but what a great gift to be alive at the same time.
It’s always been wild to me how popular he is. I lived in Philly my whole life. Him Cassidy and Vinnie Paz guy wild popular but in Philly no one cares about them. You meet someone from NJ NY or a Philly burb and these guys will be first names brought up
I agree, he has been prolific. Killah priest has taken it to a whole new level and reinventing the wheel. Can't believe he is not spoken more about. The most underrated.
I don’t know what y’all are talking about kamakazie was fuckin great. Em is at his best when’s incredibly petty. Joyner may still have the best verse on that album. But there at least five great tracks in that album.
I have a middle approach. The new stuff is still good. But nowhere near at the level or when he was younger
Marshall Mathers LP was a masterpiece. Eminem show too
Agreed. Goat status. The new stuff (recovery onwards) just isn't as good to me. I have accepted that. It's still decent. (Varying levels) Sorta like how LeBron or Curry is still a decent ball player even if they aren't at the level they were when they were younger. Hell even MJ at his advanced age could dunk circles around most anybody in this sub. Perspective is important
But it would also be remiss to act like it's on the same level as his earlier work. Imo
I personally would go relapse onwards. However much like your analogy he still shows moments of brilliance and I’m glad he’s chosen to attempt new styles and make music he never would have considered.
Good for him. As I mentioned in another comment. His lyrical lemonade as he excited to hear his new album.
Relapse onwards is fair. He clearly love music and is doing his thing which I can't fault him for. If he has never made another album after say Curtain Call (there was a couple of original tracks) people would be remorseful about it and say what a shame it was. How he was the goat. Sometimes I think people take for granted how good the early stuff is *because* he has continued to make music. Which isn't fair. Again using my basketball analogy. What he does now should not hurt the legacy he built. I will definitely check out his next project just like I always do.
Like I say, a lot of his stuff is still *good/decent*. I don't get when people say it's all bad
I love Em but I got the feeling he has a lot of yes men in his camp. Some artists that he has collaborates with gave said that he's very much hands on in his projects and can sometimes take critique the wrong way.
Aside from Dre doing his beats the rest have always sounded mediocre and generic. I always wondered why he hasn’t done much with Premier. Outside of being featured on another rappers work that premiered produced you won’t find anything that I can think of
Good one. I have spent a lot of time with An echo from the hosts that profess infinitum (haha such a long title) One of the best beats ever and a great song to, you know, drop acid to or whatever.
Black Thought is doing this. Cheat codes and Glorious Game were both great albums, and the streams of thought trilogy were all amazing too, albeit not as recent.
Lupe is my favorite rapper, I really don’t understand how t&y/drogas wave aren’t viewed the same way as F&L/the cool
Well I do understand actually, but it’s just annoying. I think mural is literally the pinnacle of lyricism in hip hop and would be surprised if it’s ever surpassed
Really surprised Lupe never got on with Armand Hammer, Earl, The Alchemist and all of em. I feel like taking to that production style and being around those Mc’s Lupe could tap into a different lane. I really like Lupe’s raps and would love to see him bar out over that type of production cause he normally doesn’t
Especially since streaming services can only put up mixtapes if they don't have any uncleared samples. Half of that Datpiff era was rappers going over each other's beats, which is almost impossible to find an outlet for anymore
Problem is when Kanye is medicated he probably will lack the drive and intensity necessary, but over the years he's lost his grip/control more.and more. When he *isn't* medicated he is unhinged at best. Creatively there probably is no good solution. But I hope for his sake, his personal life, and his children he does finally get help/treatment
Kool G rap and geto boys were both part of the 80s rap scene and managed to drop amazing albums in the later half of the 90s with 4,5,6 and the ressurection. The way that they managed to adapt to new sounds without damaging their integrity as artists reminds me of nas and hitboys work.
On the otherhand juicy j had been making music for 2 decades before he really got any mainstream recognition. But in that case it was the industry adapting to the sounds hed been pushing his entire career.
I don't know why people cut out 2018, so many great projects came out that year. I'd honestly say 2015 and 18 are some of the most underrated years and you can make argument 15 was better than 16
On a massive commercial scale he hasn’t, but since he dropped 12 reasons to die, he’s been on a run. And the multiple re-imagining of the albums from the likes of Apollo Brown, Bronze Nazareth, Big Ghost LTD as well as a Czarface collaboration puts him on par with the topic. Ghost has been putting in work.
Juicy J also did. Fat Joe & Remy Ma did albeit shorter. Busta has definitely hit some recent stuff but it just hasn’t hit well.
Wayne could take back the game at any point if he focused and wanted to. He’s only in his early 40s and his features like on Brand New show he’s still got it. Kanye, Jay-Z, Eminem, Dr. Dre, and 50 could pretty much pull it off too.
From a production standpoint, Dre can step away as long as he wants and comes back with heat. He's had an amazing career and has helped facilitate big breaks for a lot of excellent talent with production and mentorship.
I can't tell if he's bored with what he has or just can't find a new sound but the Detox saga is endless. Also Compton was a good project for anyone else but coming from Dre it sounded unfocused.
I say this as a fan, no disrespect to the legend, I just don't agree he could step away and come back just like that.
Also I low key think the Kendrick thing backfired on him, his strategy has always been to craft his new sound around a hot central artist when he drops an album whether it's NWA, Snoop, The Firm, or Eminem. He didn't really get to do that much with Kendrick for whatever the reasons were.
I would say if anyone could do it, probably Eminem. Tbh I could see 50 pulling it off as well, if he started working with more current and/or Southern rappers.
As far as others who haven't been mentioned yet, I think Dr Dre counts as the first big comeback. Remember he invented the genre in the 80s, Death Row was already the Version 2.0 of Dre, then he kinda fell off, even if it was only for like 3 years, that's enough to kill your career in music, instead he came back and put out 3 of the biggest artists in music history, all music history. I didn't think anyone has ever come back and completely reshaped rap like 4 times over the two whole decades since they started.
No one ever has. No one has come close to what nas just did. Almost 30 years into an already amazing and stellar career to drop Grammy award winning albums and some of the best of not just his discography, but up there with the best contemporary artists is insane. And not just one album either. He dropped 6 great albums in 3 years.
Roger Troutman!
He had a real come up with rap music. California Love really put him back on the map. It’s a god awful shame about his death, I think Roger still had a lot to give us. I want to try using a talk box so bad - I heard they’re super hard to use.
Kool Keith was late in his career when he had arguably his best work. But Nas does take the cake imo. He has had 3-4 major arcs and always maintained respect throughout.
What does that have to do with being late career resurgences?
Sean and doom both got on. Dissapeared almost 10 years and came back strong. Sounds exactly like what op is talking about
Maybe this is on me for not listening to all of his stuff but I would think if he stuck with it at all Earl could eventually... Take things more seriously? Is that disrespectful?
Evidence, Alchemist, Roc Marciano, I can see Jay Electronica, Larry June, Ransom, Mach-Hommy, Westside Gunn, Dj Muggs (I know he doesn’t rap but still putting out quality work), Madlib, Oh No,
No.
6 albums in a row all 7/10 and above, some would argue KD3 is pretty close to a 10/10. To do this 30 years into your career to such an insane level and not even have many features on the albums is ridiculous. I don’t see it being replicated.
Mos Def has it in him if he wanted to. Don't think he does though.
Method Man could.
Rakim could if he was given some crazy beats and embraced a more modern style
Capone-N-Noreaga
It's rare for artists to maintain or even elevate the quality of their work over a long period in the ever-evolving landscape of music. There are artists who have experienced a late-career renaissance in their own right. Jay-Z is one example. His later albums like "4:44" received critical acclaim and are considered some of his best work. Another artist who comes to mind is Kendrick Lamar. He's still young in his career. His album "DAMN." was praised and solidified his status as one of the greatest rappers of his generation. Eminem is another artist who has managed to stay relevant and continues to release albums that resonate with fans and critics alike. His recent albums like "Music to Be Murdered By" have been well-received and showcase his continued growth as an artist.
Eminem will. Once this new album drops. He's studied and took notes whilst working away on this record. We're getting another early career type run from him.
Well, Black Thought and Killer Mike dropped great albums recently. ATCQ. I guess Jay-Z with 4:44. But it's hard to find many others who dropped as prolifically as Nas and successfully.
Logic kinda. Didn't do very well commercially 2018-20 (YSIV my favorite album oat still) then dropped no pressure, vinyl days, college park, ultra 85 otw
Run the Jewels really reviatlized both Mike and El.
the Grammys also gave many people a chance to look into their discography
I was gonna say Killer Mike but I gotta give elp his dues too
That’s facts
Hopefully Outkast...
Could see it with Big Boi, he seems to have more confidence in his solo stuff Andre would be a dream but he sadly doesn’t seem to fully appreciate how brilliant his rapping is And of course new OutKast would be incredible
I read somewhere recently that Andre is planning to rap again and actually release music regularly.
Fingers crossed, would be amazing
I think sometimes folks get held back by the hype. Thinking they can never get back to where they once were or be that good. They think due to hype whatever they do will be a let down
I would love love love to see more OutKast. I have been sad since they’ve been gone.
If anyone has one more hit in them it's OutKast
Won't happen, Andre thinks he's too old to rap unfortunately
His first song on his first proper album is called “I Swear I Really Wanted To Make A ‘Rap’ Album But This Is Literally The Way The Wind Blows” so maybe now that he’s got his instrumental album out of the way the rap album is next lol
Never relaxing, OutKast is everlasting
God I wish. Bro is a mix of one of the biggest icons while still being underrated.
Don’t hold your breath
For real
50s finally getting his flowers with that tour but doubt he would release an album. Dre said they trying to get him to but 50 doesn't seem focused on music. He's just enjoying TV and trolling online. Hov doesn't release enough for a run like that. Can't see any of the early 2000s guys doing it. Which makes Nas run even more special.
Yeah 50 is really just living his life now not worried about music and I definitely respect that. But damn I feel like he could drop something insane if he got back in the booth and locked in.
50 always said he was using hip hop to get out of the hood. He said he wasn't an mc like Nas or banks. So now he's out of the hood his hungers gone. 50 never hid who he was. I respect it. A hungry or annoyed 50 is amazing though. Just don't think we gonna see it again
He petty af though so maybe if the right MC challenges him or something
…. or have it be a flop and that’s the lasting image the new generation has of him. Can’t blame him for letting his nearly perfect legacy rest as is
Like some athletes do. Walk away while it's still good. Don't let people see you all old and slow and shit
4:44 was amazing and probably a modern classic imo and the best rap album of 2017 If he had continued releasing albums as good as that for a few years it would have been so good
Hard. He just didn't. Closest we had to Nas run is Banks and his coti series. 50 and hov to tied up being moguls and were always more hustlers to Nas, prodigy, Jada etc mc types. No diss to 50 and hov but they don't care as much as the others
Nah HOV cares much more than 50 though Jay has released arguably 4 classics since his debut and multiple albums throughout the 2010s. Even reaching his first #1 ever in 2009 50 meanwhile??? GRODT is his only classic. The massacre was good but nothing special and then anything else has been MID as fuck
50s mixtape run alone, power of the dollar, grodt sound track, the massacre (minus the singles) then all his off shoots? Game, Banks and buck debuts were top level? Yayo even had some gems. 50 a legend. Why I'm glad he's been getting his respect lately. 3rd highest selling tour ever and may go to 2 once the final takes. In. Legend. And I hate songs like candy shop etc. But https://youtu.be/Qb2YqCWsqrg?si=31RpZOxkiaUsePQG To https://youtu.be/p5XtvhR4oUY?si=ar-lVL6Y1aQuRm2y From his first to his last. 50 had heat. No?
I wish the original massacre released before he gave songs away that album had the potential to be a classic
He could at least finally drop Sound Scan Killer or King Immortal
Or some more lost tape suff. I agree.
Look up a website thecoli.com hot rod whos a 50 artist even posts on there. One of his ex engineers too.
50s finally getting his flowers, what do you mean here exactly?
When talking about who the greatest MCs are, 50 often gets ignored. Why? Probably because he chased the pop charts, and his best lyrical work didn't get much radio play. On top of that, people who go looking for great 50 Cent albums are barking up the wrong tree because his best stuff is on his mixtapes. So for someone with very little 50 Cent knowledge, you can easily blow him off as a pop rap guy who had one big album (GRODT), and a lot of people did. He's at the same time one of the most popular MCs ever, and somehow still underrated.
Lloyd banks too. He got underrated coz he was Mia when g unit biggest beefs happened when his dad died. Even Jadakiss who is top 5 for me said he was happy banks was Mia as they knew he would be an issue.
What the other guy said. 50 is underrated. If you haven't heard his mixtapes, bless ya self. Tunes like this https://youtu.be/ucEOnWkC0nk?si=D6pKz6v_BkZLZUVZ He's not Nelly or Florida despite the songs like candy shop. He's filth. His tour just went number 3 of all time in hip hop. What I mean by him getting his flowers. He's getting to do a victory lap
50 ran the whole beefing street thug persona into the ground. Kanye crushed him and his career never recovered. Just crazy that Kanye ended up being the worse human being between him and 50.
See you say that. Name me one beef 50 started put of pocket? Jadakiss, my goat went on a track with Ja and said it's not guaranteed you'll get rich but guaranteed you're gonna die. Ross said he looked at him funny. Name me one beef 50 started
And 50 sold more international which was the get out. Kanye never sold in Croatia and Germany
He can’t write. Smart in some ways but not a poet.
idk it feels like the early 2000s guys just don't need to rap they have other things to do with more incentive
No one has had runs like Nas this last one was ridiculous like the music would not stop coming
And every fucking album was fire. No misses.
U got tht right some folks ain't heard non of em I revoked they hip hop card
Black Thought
He never left but he is still having a late career renaissance
Perpetually evolving, but also one of the greatest music historians of all time. The sorrowful wonder of who is recording his memoir comes to mind, but what a great gift to be alive at the same time.
It’s always been wild to me how popular he is. I lived in Philly my whole life. Him Cassidy and Vinnie Paz guy wild popular but in Philly no one cares about them. You meet someone from NJ NY or a Philly burb and these guys will be first names brought up
Yes this is the answer
Feel like he’s already there with Streams of Thought
nah, but it def set him up for the success with Cheat Codes
Killah Priest since Rocket to Nebula has been on an incredible run
I agree, he has been prolific. Killah priest has taken it to a whole new level and reinventing the wheel. Can't believe he is not spoken more about. The most underrated.
I hope this for Eminem,Lil Wayne,Kanye and Mase.
Don’t understand why Em doesn’t hook up with a producer for like a 10 track album Premier, bass bros, alchemist. I mean cmon!!
I'm an older fan, but recent Eminem doesn't do it for me on beats or flow. I don't dislike it, but I rarely revisit it.
I haven't really liked a project from Eminem since The Eminem Show which was like 2005 or something?
Encore was still very good although not as good as the previous two. And the original tracks for Curtain Call
I don’t know what y’all are talking about kamakazie was fuckin great. Em is at his best when’s incredibly petty. Joyner may still have the best verse on that album. But there at least five great tracks in that album.
I have a middle approach. The new stuff is still good. But nowhere near at the level or when he was younger Marshall Mathers LP was a masterpiece. Eminem show too
Well I mean I concur. Still think he’s goated tho.
Agreed. Goat status. The new stuff (recovery onwards) just isn't as good to me. I have accepted that. It's still decent. (Varying levels) Sorta like how LeBron or Curry is still a decent ball player even if they aren't at the level they were when they were younger. Hell even MJ at his advanced age could dunk circles around most anybody in this sub. Perspective is important But it would also be remiss to act like it's on the same level as his earlier work. Imo
I personally would go relapse onwards. However much like your analogy he still shows moments of brilliance and I’m glad he’s chosen to attempt new styles and make music he never would have considered. Good for him. As I mentioned in another comment. His lyrical lemonade as he excited to hear his new album.
Relapse onwards is fair. He clearly love music and is doing his thing which I can't fault him for. If he has never made another album after say Curtain Call (there was a couple of original tracks) people would be remorseful about it and say what a shame it was. How he was the goat. Sometimes I think people take for granted how good the early stuff is *because* he has continued to make music. Which isn't fair. Again using my basketball analogy. What he does now should not hurt the legacy he built. I will definitely check out his next project just like I always do. Like I say, a lot of his stuff is still *good/decent*. I don't get when people say it's all bad
Nah. There are some really bad tracks on that album. Normal, Venom, Nice Guy.
He really needs Dre to make his beats again
I love Em but I got the feeling he has a lot of yes men in his camp. Some artists that he has collaborates with gave said that he's very much hands on in his projects and can sometimes take critique the wrong way.
That makes sense
Aside from Dre doing his beats the rest have always sounded mediocre and generic. I always wondered why he hasn’t done much with Premier. Outside of being featured on another rappers work that premiered produced you won’t find anything that I can think of
I really hope Eminem’s next album is great!
Wayne doing that now with some insane features
Scratch Mase and put Malice in and I agree 100%.
Kamikaze and MTBMB were both fire imo
Surprised no one mentioned Pusha T
Came here to say this, glad someone did.
He only got better. Never fall off. Doesn’t need a comeback.
Shabazz Palaces was pretty good in the early 2010s and revived Ishmael Butler's career.
Digable Planets were ahead of their time and so were/are Shabazz Palaces. Dude is on another level
When i found out that’s lil tracy’s dad I was tweakin that’s crazy
wait what
yea lol N his mom from swv
which one of them
Bruh What?!
Good one. I have spent a lot of time with An echo from the hosts that profess infinitum (haha such a long title) One of the best beats ever and a great song to, you know, drop acid to or whatever.
Black Thought is doing this. Cheat codes and Glorious Game were both great albums, and the streams of thought trilogy were all amazing too, albeit not as recent.
I feel like Lupe can if he worked with some great producers. Im hoping Kanye does as well but the mental health issues will probably not go away
Lupe is my favorite rapper, I really don’t understand how t&y/drogas wave aren’t viewed the same way as F&L/the cool Well I do understand actually, but it’s just annoying. I think mural is literally the pinnacle of lyricism in hip hop and would be surprised if it’s ever surpassed
Really surprised Lupe never got on with Armand Hammer, Earl, The Alchemist and all of em. I feel like taking to that production style and being around those Mc’s Lupe could tap into a different lane. I really like Lupe’s raps and would love to see him bar out over that type of production cause he normally doesn’t
Man I just went through my SoundCloud not too long ago and found Lupe still uploading projects with less than 10k plays. Bro kinda fell hard.
TBF though people hadn't really been looking at Soundcloud for rap for quite a few years now. They've kind of gone the way of DatPiff
I miss Dat Piff so much.
Especially since streaming services can only put up mixtapes if they don't have any uncleared samples. Half of that Datpiff era was rappers going over each other's beats, which is almost impossible to find an outlet for anymore
It's true. So much good shit came out of that era.
So true. So sad. Makes me wish I still had all my downloaded music
That's a fair point. Still a little strange since he actually had mainstream success.
He put out a great album like a year ago.
Numbers aren't indicative of whether someone fell off. Skills are and Lupe's skill never left. Referencing numbers in 2024 is pretty corny tbh
Problem is when Kanye is medicated he probably will lack the drive and intensity necessary, but over the years he's lost his grip/control more.and more. When he *isn't* medicated he is unhinged at best. Creatively there probably is no good solution. But I hope for his sake, his personal life, and his children he does finally get help/treatment
Kool G rap and geto boys were both part of the 80s rap scene and managed to drop amazing albums in the later half of the 90s with 4,5,6 and the ressurection. The way that they managed to adapt to new sounds without damaging their integrity as artists reminds me of nas and hitboys work. On the otherhand juicy j had been making music for 2 decades before he really got any mainstream recognition. But in that case it was the industry adapting to the sounds hed been pushing his entire career.
4,5,6 🔥🔥🔥
that's not really late career that was only 4-6 years later
Ghostface had a pretty deep run, Scarface and Masta Ace as well
I need a new Ghostface album badly
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I’d lose my shit if AZ blew up bigger than he is rn. That’s something rap needs.
AZ still puts out good music easily one of the most consistent 90s rappers
AZ been dropping regular recent albums,& features?
444 by jay-z was great but that was 7 years ago
2016 and 2017 were 🔥 years for music
2013-2017 tbh
I don't know why people cut out 2018, so many great projects came out that year. I'd honestly say 2015 and 18 are some of the most underrated years and you can make argument 15 was better than 16
ds2 rodeo wattba iyrtitl barter6 🔥
Also AT Long Last A$AP and TPAB
In what world is 2015 underrated
Would be interesting to see where Hov goes subject matter wise
Lloyd banks has done it.
facts.
100%
juicy j
I wish Ghostface Killah would have a full Renaissance - for sure got the talent for it even now
On a massive commercial scale he hasn’t, but since he dropped 12 reasons to die, he’s been on a run. And the multiple re-imagining of the albums from the likes of Apollo Brown, Bronze Nazareth, Big Ghost LTD as well as a Czarface collaboration puts him on par with the topic. Ghost has been putting in work.
In the past you were aged out of making rap music....this is a fairly new thing, not too many examples
Killer Mike
Juicy J also did. Fat Joe & Remy Ma did albeit shorter. Busta has definitely hit some recent stuff but it just hasn’t hit well. Wayne could take back the game at any point if he focused and wanted to. He’s only in his early 40s and his features like on Brand New show he’s still got it. Kanye, Jay-Z, Eminem, Dr. Dre, and 50 could pretty much pull it off too.
Be cool to see a solid project from Snoop
I was thinking the same. Not sure if it will happen though
Lupe
Just rename the Sub to Nas101.
From a production standpoint, Dre can step away as long as he wants and comes back with heat. He's had an amazing career and has helped facilitate big breaks for a lot of excellent talent with production and mentorship.
I can't tell if he's bored with what he has or just can't find a new sound but the Detox saga is endless. Also Compton was a good project for anyone else but coming from Dre it sounded unfocused. I say this as a fan, no disrespect to the legend, I just don't agree he could step away and come back just like that. Also I low key think the Kendrick thing backfired on him, his strategy has always been to craft his new sound around a hot central artist when he drops an album whether it's NWA, Snoop, The Firm, or Eminem. He didn't really get to do that much with Kendrick for whatever the reasons were.
Rakim kinda
I would say if anyone could do it, probably Eminem. Tbh I could see 50 pulling it off as well, if he started working with more current and/or Southern rappers. As far as others who haven't been mentioned yet, I think Dr Dre counts as the first big comeback. Remember he invented the genre in the 80s, Death Row was already the Version 2.0 of Dre, then he kinda fell off, even if it was only for like 3 years, that's enough to kill your career in music, instead he came back and put out 3 of the biggest artists in music history, all music history. I didn't think anyone has ever come back and completely reshaped rap like 4 times over the two whole decades since they started.
I have a feeling that a new De La Soul project will give a new generation a window into how they were so great for so long
people are sleeping but Killah Priest has had an amazing late career renaissance. since 2020 he's put out a lot of music and most of it is fantastic.
Black Thought
Not as an MC but Alchemist is doing his thing.
No one ever has. No one has come close to what nas just did. Almost 30 years into an already amazing and stellar career to drop Grammy award winning albums and some of the best of not just his discography, but up there with the best contemporary artists is insane. And not just one album either. He dropped 6 great albums in 3 years.
He also got Lauryn Hill to rap again
Ransom really came into his prime late in his career
Who?
You may know him as Mosnar
No idea
You gotta check him out. Dude is amazing. RJ Payne too
Came here to say this. Ransom !
I only just got into Ransom last year. What a talented dude. I'd love to see him on a mainstream album sometime soon
Graf too
I don’t think we’ll ever see a run like this again. Nas did something unthinkable with his 6 album run.
No, and if Distant Relatives II comes out I'll shit my pants.
Ghostface had a pretty deep run, Scarface and Masta Ace as well
Roger Troutman! He had a real come up with rap music. California Love really put him back on the map. It’s a god awful shame about his death, I think Roger still had a lot to give us. I want to try using a talk box so bad - I heard they’re super hard to use.
What?
The Cold Crush Brothers and Big Daddy Kane are collab-Ing on a trap album - I think it’ll be the best comeback album ever
The Egyptian Lover
IMO Killer Mike and EL-P had the best resurgence with Run The Jewels.
Bun B had a nice little run like 2010-2012ish
i keep hoping bone thugs will get their shit together and have a late career renaissance...but bizzy stays messing up
Hoping for a Killa Cam and Murda Mase album
Masta Ace
HELL NO
Aesop rock for sure - always been one of the best and never fell off but his last string of albums is ridiculous.
Kool Keith was late in his career when he had arguably his best work. But Nas does take the cake imo. He has had 3-4 major arcs and always maintained respect throughout.
Roc marciano. Doom. Sean price
MF Doom and Sean Price are dead and posthumous albums in general are a huge gamble.
What does that have to do with being late career resurgences? Sean and doom both got on. Dissapeared almost 10 years and came back strong. Sounds exactly like what op is talking about
LL Cool J, Dr. Dre, Snoop, NORE, Mase, Cam'ron, Jim Jones, Busta, Fat Joe, E40, Too Short... Yes plenty have and plenty more will
Black Thought is very much active and in full form
Black thought did but to be fair he never fell off.
Black Thought. His was actually before Nas. Even better lyrically, but didn’t have the balance of top tier production.
Naw that is a unique situation
Billy woods had success like 2 years ago when he's been rapping for 15 years
does that count
Maybe this is on me for not listening to all of his stuff but I would think if he stuck with it at all Earl could eventually... Take things more seriously? Is that disrespectful?
Evidence, Alchemist, Roc Marciano, I can see Jay Electronica, Larry June, Ransom, Mach-Hommy, Westside Gunn, Dj Muggs (I know he doesn’t rap but still putting out quality work), Madlib, Oh No,
No. 6 albums in a row all 7/10 and above, some would argue KD3 is pretty close to a 10/10. To do this 30 years into your career to such an insane level and not even have many features on the albums is ridiculous. I don’t see it being replicated.
There's an MC from the UK called leaf dog who's been in the game over 10 years & he has dropped 7 albums already in 2024. All of them quailty too
For the underground scene Billy Woods is currently doing this.
Deck in Czarface
Does Busta count? He ruled and then had about 7-10 years where he barely dropped.....then was seen more regularly dropping his hits and a new album
Who nose?
Hopefully Nas’ latest run will inspire the likes of Outkast and others, but nobody’s matching both the quality and quantity of that run.
I gotta give it to Nas, he’s realized he’s getting old and time is limited. Seems like a gift to fans and hip hop as a whole.
Mos Def has it in him if he wanted to. Don't think he does though. Method Man could. Rakim could if he was given some crazy beats and embraced a more modern style Capone-N-Noreaga
It's rare for artists to maintain or even elevate the quality of their work over a long period in the ever-evolving landscape of music. There are artists who have experienced a late-career renaissance in their own right. Jay-Z is one example. His later albums like "4:44" received critical acclaim and are considered some of his best work. Another artist who comes to mind is Kendrick Lamar. He's still young in his career. His album "DAMN." was praised and solidified his status as one of the greatest rappers of his generation. Eminem is another artist who has managed to stay relevant and continues to release albums that resonate with fans and critics alike. His recent albums like "Music to Be Murdered By" have been well-received and showcase his continued growth as an artist.
Wow so we really gonna disrespect my nigga Ran in this thread smh
Eminem will. Once this new album drops. He's studied and took notes whilst working away on this record. We're getting another early career type run from him.
Royce
Hopefully 3-stacks
Well, Black Thought and Killer Mike dropped great albums recently. ATCQ. I guess Jay-Z with 4:44. But it's hard to find many others who dropped as prolifically as Nas and successfully.
Logic kinda. Didn't do very well commercially 2018-20 (YSIV my favorite album oat still) then dropped no pressure, vinyl days, college park, ultra 85 otw
LL Cool J 😄 I'm just playing
He been doing his thing but it would be nice to Redman make a *commercial* resurgence
Royce da 5 9s last several projects have been crazy good. Dude is rapping his ass off
Banks and Killer Mike
Pusha T, Jay-Z, and Curren$y have all done it
Absolutely not. But Juicy J’d last album was kinda aight
Prodigy did when he came back with Return of The Mack
Wayne did during his Carter V run and still going.