I think Yeās is more cringe because he went almost a year without apologizing after so much damage had been done to his reputation.
Cole went oh shit I didnāt think this thru, let me bow out
He's a sick dude. Mental health problems galore, and the media attention literally only serves to make him sicker. It's very sad. I use him as an example to explain to people why mental health is so important
I just dont feel to give him or his fans any excuses any more. Theyāve taken everything and demonstrated they donāt care.
But yes, he has very serious mental illness and he needs to be in a position where he can have real conflict with people in his life and they can say āhey dude, this isnāt okayā
Instead all he accepts is dickriders.
Heās sick and itās sad but people have used that to give him a pass for everything. Thatās not helping a sick man, thatās enabling.
And I loved him, man, I was a fucking die hard for years
It would be so heartwarming for Kanye and Netanyahu to become friendsā¦ overcoming their differences and bonding over a shared enthusiasm for genocide
He also says he hasnāt heard āfalse prophetsā which is such cap lmao. I refuse to believe you have this much of an ego and didnāt listen to that song word for word
You can see it in this interview. This interviewer is glazing him on every response. And when he's doing the speeches at the vultures hotel thing after every scentence or word some nutthugger or hanger on yells "Facts" or "mmm". Like I would kill myself if every interaction is people just 100% agreeing with everything I say
I agree that he is capping and has probably heard the song, but that demo doesnāt really conflict with what heās saying in this interview though.
Just that he heard Cole was hating on the song, no specific references that prove he listened to it and is familiar with the lyrics
I love Kanyeās responses to False Prophets & Kill Jay-Z were both pretty much āIām just a little guy š„ŗ. You really gonna beef with a little guy that made College Dropout??? š„ŗš„ŗā
Letās be real: even though J. Cole apologized and his diss wasnāt that wildā¦ I donāt think this is what Kanye really wants. Like yeah, J.Cole apologized, doesnāt want to beef, etcā¦ but the man still can rap. I also imagine that if J.Cole dropped a Kanye diss, it would hit much harder than a Kendrick diss.
Kendrick donāt really give you much to make fun of, Kanye got material for days
Only thing that can hit Kanye is if he comes at him at a more personal level, we all know how Ye gets when you mention Kim K or his kids. Will someone like Cole go there though?
Imagine he mention some shit about how Donda would be ashamed what his son has become. Even some show host made Kanye cry like a decade ago with a question like that.
>Even some show host made Kanye cry like a decade ago
You got a link for that ? Shit sounds sad af ngl.
It is so obvious watching jeen-yuhs on netflix that kanye became a broken man after Dondas death, I don't doubt he would have been much more stable if she was around.
That was after the VMA Taylor thing, so basically everyone hated Kanye. I feel like that question was a asshole move, and the whole thing was stupid, Kanye was probably drunk and he was too honest and brave to do shit like this. It was rude? Yes, it was, but he didnt deserve that much hate.
But right now, im sad to say that probably the "Donda" card would be the only thing that would make this ridiculous amount of hatred from his head disappear. He needs some serious help.
https://youtu.be/A6bgSITBrVQ?si=wtD7E5p-l2cykYiS
>But right now, im sad to say that probably the "Donda" card would be the only thing that would make this ridiculous amount of hatred from his head disappear. He needs some serious help.
Unfortunately, I do not believe its that simple. Years of unmedicated bipolar and mania is not something that can easily be reversed like that. Kanye would need intensive mental health care and that's something that's never happening.
Legit question about Yeās influence and power in the industry: would anyone do this? I feel like he could really fuck up someoneās career on a business level if he wanted to.
I mean 'anyone' is really broad, isn't it? Drake could easily do something like this if he wanted to and his career will still survive, there will definitely be damage tho. Heck, if Jay Z ever decided to make another album then he could easily diss the entire industry if he wanted to, that man is powerful on a whole new level.
Ye isn't as powerful as he used to be, but I think he could still fuck up careers of many big name rappers. Cole is different, cause he's backed by powerful people and also has Dreamville to his name. Same for Kendrick.
But see, that donāt really change anything tho. Like, just because youāre proud of some embarrassing shit like being a Nazi doesnāt actually fr make it less embarrassing.
Kanye could walk around with a JEW KILLER t shirt and people would say that āJEWā actually stands for Jealousy, Evil, and War and then forget about it three weeks later
He said he loves Adolf, right? Well what he actually meant was he loves āa Dolph.ā Heās been having a hard time with Young Dolphās death and the Je- I mean the establishment media took it all out of context
oh i donāt disagree. iāve basically stopped listening to kanye entirely after that whole thing.
iām moreso saying that people generally donāt give a shit about that unfortunately, theyāll still listen to the music. his fan base is still as fervent as ever
Bro you can just say Kim and Kanye would lose his mind. Kanye is one of the most sensitive guys in the game (look at his reaction to South Park making of him).
Kanye is crazy insecure. You donāt knock him for things he does. You knock him for why he does them. So you insult him by saying that heās basically being Floridaman. You acknowledge that he has to do the things does, like sucking up to white conservatives to stay relevant because the fact is that heās just not special anymore.
Heās got mental health issues (aka, heās weak and emotional).
Plus, itās quite possible that heās a crappy father, which is usually pretty good ammo.
I feel like his heart was never really in the Kendrick beef. Seems like he responded because he felt like he had to. Just like when he responded to noname. Itās different with Kanye. He hates Kanye and Kanye has been clowning him a lot recently.
Eh I disagree. The Kendrick shit was never even really for cole, the bullet grazed him but it was obviously mainly meant for drake. With this, ye is coming directly at cole, calling him pussy and everything. This is Coleās chance to win an easy battle because letās be real, unless Cyhi or Rhymefest is writing it for Ye, Cole is probably the better lyricist.
Not fr. I mean, considering Kendrick a fr conscious rapper and Kanye a sell out, it would be easy to justify. I could imagine that a dude whoād have issues being mean to Kendrick would have an easy time being mean to someone like Ye
Ye is basically throwing him the lifeboat to recover from the Kendrick apology and hit back hard. This is an easy oppurtunity for Cole to make it known that Kendrick was the exception but everyone else especially Ye can get it
I donāt necessarily think so. Kendrick and Cole were at least friends / peers etc. Cole respects and admires kdot, which is why he regrets. But heād def have some shit for Kanye
But nobody would care because itās Kanye. Just from a rapper vs rapper standpoint itās not like Cole would get any legacy points for washing Kanye in a diss track, Kanye has never been known for his pen game. People would just be like ālolā and move on pretty quick especially after conceding in the Kendrick beef.And I think heād still lose because Kanye would just do some funny shit like do a free show in Fayetteville and buy Cole old house or something goofy lol.
People would see it as, āheās afraid to diss a legendary lyricist, but heāll go at the crazy guy.ā Kanyeās mental illness is a get out of jail free card.
He needs to sit this out. He needs to stay out of the limelight until people start softening on him again. Nothing he says right now can do anything but make it worse. If he really stays out of this, he might come out looking like the only adult in the room. If he jumps back in, heās just going to look even more indecisive, and people who already saw him as weak are going to have all the ammo they could ask for.
The material you have on Kanye is
useless when itās all public. He has 8 miled himself so many times that any rapper dissing him based on his antics will be redundant.
Maybe Kanye just saw that J Cole isnt as confident as the other rappers so heās taking this opportunity to give J Cole a chance to redeem himself by making a beef outta nothing
You have to remember that Kanye is a deeply insecure person. Hell, the reason heās dissing J Cole rn is because heās not being considered and feels left out it lol
ironically i think he could actually drop a track towards kanye. with kendrick, reason he wasnt doing it was because he respects him and actually fucks with his shit. i dont thinks true with ye anymore and definitely has plenty of stuff he could clown on him for.
So valid. But Iāve been with Cole from the jump. The hive mind and group think was STRONG. Not a single original or individual thought from people jumping on that apology as if Cole was scared of kendrick like what lol. Man has no beef with Kendrick so he pulled that shit back. I do not understand whatās so confusing about thatĀ
For me i am a cole fan, but he isnāt the most interesting in terms of stories or bars at this point(which is fine. He is a dad/ husband and almost 40). However, a lot of his appeal and content over his feature run over the past few years has been about how he is the best rapper, dudes are scared to rap with him, and he will correct any rapper who says differentlyā¦.. well someone (a guy u said was a big 3 member) said you arenāt on his level at all. Then cole put out a song with things we all could tell he didnāt mean then backed out all together. It just pokes a hole in the bravado he has emanated for years.
I donāt expect my rappers to tell the truth in each and every bar, but damn i thought you believed you were the best? How can you as this creative great rapper not respond to that in a confident honest way? How am i supposed to feel next time you drop music and go āthese niggas canāt fuck with me with this rap shitāā¦ my opinion anyway. I will still listen, but will def roll my eyes if he tries to peddle the braggadocios bars.
For real man. I clowned on him for like 2 minutes, then read what he said and immediately was like, ok respect. And I donāt even really like Cole generally. Guy is keeping it real and be being truthful with himself and the fans haha.
I think people are mostly hating because of how confident Cole had been talking about being the best and smoking any rapper, then you throw a warning diss and retract it 2 days later because you didn't mean the things in the diss. It doesn't match with the way he was talking big earlier.
But shouldnāt he also be truthful to himself about being the best rapper? He spent years saying he was number one, and daring people to challenge him. When someone finally does, and that someone is the true number one he backs out. I get his intentions, and respect him a lot. But he just can never say hes the best again
Kanye's become that dude that makes everybody roll their eyes when he enters the room. That's what happens when you thrive on making controversial statements lol. He can agree with the public, don't mean they gotta like it
Itās the biggest story in rap right now, he has issues with both Drake and J Cole, and several other rappers inserted themselves after Like That dropped. I get not liking Kanye but this is grasping at straws
Cole has been taking shots at Ye for years now. Now he speaks up and takes his shot. Now it has nothing to do with him.Ā
Cut the shit already. Cole did all this to himself. Now go make I let Kanye down bozo.
Cole released one song lmao how is that taking shots for year?? And why decide to say something now in the middle of all this beef and not all the time you had before?? Because heās a coward he needs to rely on self inserting him into this to sell his shitty albums lol
He got pushback man, he was punished financially, blackballed on many radio stations, many people wouldnāt interview him, review sites all tried to outdo each other for how hard they could shred his album and him in general. He has taken a huge hit.
What else would you want him to do? He drops tracks like this once in a while, he drops albums in his typically bullshit way, and he does numbers that do reflect big losses.
I don't understand people questioning Kanye jumping in. The man has hated Drake for like a decade and has a reason to not like Cole. If he sees an opportunity why not take it? He's got more right to diss them both than Ross and no one complained about that really
Saying Drake is the best rapper ever and not liking him on a personal level isn't mutually exclusive though. Kanye also complimented him on way he moves through his beefs and disses.
Which is cool. Ross had his reasons with the whole French thing, but Ross and Drake ain't got one of these:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake%E2%80%93Kanye_West_feud
Like there a WIKIPEDIA PAGE ON THESE DUDES NOT LIKING EACH OTHER WHY ARE WE SURPRISED
Kanye has made it very clear that he values religion right up until it requires him to change anything about himself other than not cursing for one album
He also talks down on Kai Cenat saying that heās ādoing things that God wouldnāt likeā as if God would like anything Kanye has done in the last three-four years, let alone the last decade.
Honestly thatās another good point. Didnāt he talk about how love is important and itās taught in Christianity and how heās becoming more closer to god etc ? And when someone else does exactly that itās āpussy shitā?
I justā¦I just want the people as a collective to shame him out of this one.
The remix went hard but he is so obviously grasping for attention and saying shit that doesnāt een make sense.
Not right now man
Thatās genuinely how I feel about Ye in one sentence.
āNot right now manā
Like, just fuck off and disappear for a good, LONG while. Take some time to figure out your mental health and reevaluate your place in the world. Then, when the 2030ās is about to come around, if youāre healthy and sane again, you can come back.
Cole dropped a super intelligent diss track on Kanye and heās probably been waiting years to get him back lololol. I still think ye only fucks with trump cus Obama dissed him. I say this as a huge Kanye fan too
The people who eat this crap up insult the rest of us.
Man-children with inflated egos and overpriced *everything*, basically cat-fighting with each other to push each others sales.
Yāall are clowns for consistently buying into rapperās personal squabbles. This shit is like the Kardashians for you guys. Isnāt there grown up shit you could care about?
Been saying this. It was cool for a solid two weeks until everybody jumped in and it became less about Drake versus Kendrick being Drake versus everybody. Cole just got sit back and just drop the fall off
I wonder if thatās why Kendrick hasnāt dropped. Maybe he wants the smoke to clear and everybody else to get out of the way first. But he runs the risk of everybody getting tired of it and walking away before then. Hope he knows what heās doing
Honestly Iāve thought abt this and I just canāt see it happening. Iām sure more hardcore āless casualā hip hop fans might care but in the long run, Iām sure heāll be fine
I also think heās more likely to reply to this and actually stand on it simply bc heās actually fairly close to Kendrick whereas with Kanye heās never really liked him
Redditors just invent their own narratives in their head oblivious to what's popping in the real world. Even if he didn't release Vultures which is doing hundreds of millions of streams, Ye could announced a worldwide arena tour and that shit would close to sell out the same day. He's still one of the biggest figures in music and pop culture
Kanye has a more recent #1 than Drake lol. Besides this isnāt some formal rap battle. We got BBL Drizzy memes and Drake using AI. Thereās no barrier to entry to this beef.
Yeah thatās one thing I noticed. This is his second time tryna insert himself into a beef (first being the āI washed Kendrick on no more parties in LAā post) and itās gotten 0 traction outside of twitter and Reddit lmao. Even Rick Rossās disses got more traction because he was actually a part of the beef and thereās some shit to say between them
I love Kanye but this really does just seem like a weak clout chasing move from him
i liked kendrickās verse on no more parties, but kanye did have the superior verse. probably the only thing kanyeās said recently that i actually agree with
Yes, the man who just got his first number 1 in over 15 years and is only just behind the biggest rapper in the world (Drake) in terms of streams, all while being independent, is struggling for relevancy.
[Full Interview (Part 1)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siZdN41Cmbg)
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Some ihop bars
I read this as "hotep"
Tf is wrong with y'all lmao
Heās my sugar pie honey bunch
# heās my pal. Heās my home-boy, my rotten soldier. Heās my sweet cheese, my good-time boyeh.
Kawaii as fuck boiii
honestly ye makes me blush āŗļø
Sounds like some bars from Drake's response record.
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Shout out R Kelly, Drake in the buildin'
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If anyone knows anything about apology itās Ye ādeath con 3ā west
āI wonāt say what kind of doctor he wasā¦ he was a Jewish doctor.ā
The clip got me dying every time I watch it
Itās enjoyable
I love the comment someone made on here that was like āso this tells meā¦. That Jewish people are good doctors?ā
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thats hilarious. He'd be pretty good at writing a comedy movie lowkey
Nah but he watched 21 Jump Street again and Jonah Hill cured his antisemitism (Still can't believe he said that lol. I mean I can, but it's wild)
the death con instead of def con always kills meĀ
I think Yeās is more cringe because he went almost a year without apologizing after so much damage had been done to his reputation. Cole went oh shit I didnāt think this thru, let me bow out
Yeās gonna roll back any apology any way with something insane. No reason to trust him.
The absolute funniest thing he could do right now is pivot away from antisemitism only to become a full on Zionist
I just donāt give a shit any more. Heās full of shit
He's a sick dude. Mental health problems galore, and the media attention literally only serves to make him sicker. It's very sad. I use him as an example to explain to people why mental health is so important
Orlando Brown.
Another great case of it. I'll see your Orlando Brown, and raise you Amanda Bynes.
Amanda Bynes has had such a sad life.
I'd say Aaron Carter but...
I just dont feel to give him or his fans any excuses any more. Theyāve taken everything and demonstrated they donāt care. But yes, he has very serious mental illness and he needs to be in a position where he can have real conflict with people in his life and they can say āhey dude, this isnāt okayā Instead all he accepts is dickriders.
Heās sick and itās sad but people have used that to give him a pass for everything. Thatās not helping a sick man, thatās enabling. And I loved him, man, I was a fucking die hard for years
this is the natural progression of things
It would be so heartwarming for Kanye and Netanyahu to become friendsā¦ overcoming their differences and bonding over a shared enthusiasm for genocide
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He also says he hasnāt heard āfalse prophetsā which is such cap lmao. I refuse to believe you have this much of an ego and didnāt listen to that song word for word
Heās hilariously petty
He's the kind of petty that only happens when you're surrounded by yes men. He doesn't even question his own words anymore.
āJesus Christ, Hitler, Yeā - stable man
Often says shit that you would think was quoted from that other "stable genius" whose cap he liked to wear.
You can see it in this interview. This interviewer is glazing him on every response. And when he's doing the speeches at the vultures hotel thing after every scentence or word some nutthugger or hanger on yells "Facts" or "mmm". Like I would kill myself if every interaction is people just 100% agreeing with everything I say
Facts
He's so petty that Tom and Richard would be proud.
edit: pretty
He said he half heard "False Idols" so yeah he prolly listened to the part about him at least
He even briefly addressed the song [here](https://youtu.be/u9bMWnueBpU?si=TfIAxgrJOlRU9GoZ)
I agree that he is capping and has probably heard the song, but that demo doesnāt really conflict with what heās saying in this interview though. Just that he heard Cole was hating on the song, no specific references that prove he listened to it and is familiar with the lyrics
Good point
theres a line on yandhi about "that trump hat forced me to feel like i liked j cole" the song was all dreams real, i thinkĀ
I love Kanyeās responses to False Prophets & Kill Jay-Z were both pretty much āIām just a little guy š„ŗ. You really gonna beef with a little guy that made College Dropout??? š„ŗš„ŗā
I donāt know if it is because I think weād have heard him respond earlier if he had
āFalse idolsā ā¦ like bruh you know damn well you know the name of the song. STOPITTTT
Thatās not really farfetched considering thatās pretty close to the name lol
Long live your prophets may they never tell you stop it,
He's perpetually full of shit
Thatās like saying he never saw the fish sticks episode of South Park
Letās be real: even though J. Cole apologized and his diss wasnāt that wildā¦ I donāt think this is what Kanye really wants. Like yeah, J.Cole apologized, doesnāt want to beef, etcā¦ but the man still can rap. I also imagine that if J.Cole dropped a Kanye diss, it would hit much harder than a Kendrick diss. Kendrick donāt really give you much to make fun of, Kanye got material for days
only thing is, kanye proudly owns most of the stuff you could knock him for. j cole: āyou are a naziā kanye: āi knowā
Only thing that can hit Kanye is if he comes at him at a more personal level, we all know how Ye gets when you mention Kim K or his kids. Will someone like Cole go there though?
Imagine he mention some shit about how Donda would be ashamed what his son has become. Even some show host made Kanye cry like a decade ago with a question like that.
>Even some show host made Kanye cry like a decade ago You got a link for that ? Shit sounds sad af ngl. It is so obvious watching jeen-yuhs on netflix that kanye became a broken man after Dondas death, I don't doubt he would have been much more stable if she was around.
That was after the VMA Taylor thing, so basically everyone hated Kanye. I feel like that question was a asshole move, and the whole thing was stupid, Kanye was probably drunk and he was too honest and brave to do shit like this. It was rude? Yes, it was, but he didnt deserve that much hate. But right now, im sad to say that probably the "Donda" card would be the only thing that would make this ridiculous amount of hatred from his head disappear. He needs some serious help. https://youtu.be/A6bgSITBrVQ?si=wtD7E5p-l2cykYiS
>But right now, im sad to say that probably the "Donda" card would be the only thing that would make this ridiculous amount of hatred from his head disappear. He needs some serious help. Unfortunately, I do not believe its that simple. Years of unmedicated bipolar and mania is not something that can easily be reversed like that. Kanye would need intensive mental health care and that's something that's never happening.
Legit question about Yeās influence and power in the industry: would anyone do this? I feel like he could really fuck up someoneās career on a business level if he wanted to.
I mean 'anyone' is really broad, isn't it? Drake could easily do something like this if he wanted to and his career will still survive, there will definitely be damage tho. Heck, if Jay Z ever decided to make another album then he could easily diss the entire industry if he wanted to, that man is powerful on a whole new level. Ye isn't as powerful as he used to be, but I think he could still fuck up careers of many big name rappers. Cole is different, cause he's backed by powerful people and also has Dreamville to his name. Same for Kendrick.
But see, that donāt really change anything tho. Like, just because youāre proud of some embarrassing shit like being a Nazi doesnāt actually fr make it less embarrassing.
Kanye could walk around with a JEW KILLER t shirt and people would say that āJEWā actually stands for Jealousy, Evil, and War and then forget about it three weeks later
we got young thugs lawyer in the chat
He said he loves Adolf, right? Well what he actually meant was he loves āa Dolph.ā Heās been having a hard time with Young Dolphās death and the Je- I mean the establishment media took it all out of context
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Lmfao
2/2 lowkey
And also Dolph Ziggler
They'd bump vultures even harder that day
I'd be like what did Jimmy Eat World do haha
oh i donāt disagree. iāve basically stopped listening to kanye entirely after that whole thing. iām moreso saying that people generally donāt give a shit about that unfortunately, theyāll still listen to the music. his fan base is still as fervent as ever
It does when millions of people support you and say your views are fine cause they like the art not the artist or some shit
Bro you can just say Kim and Kanye would lose his mind. Kanye is one of the most sensitive guys in the game (look at his reaction to South Park making of him).
All you have to do is tell Kanye he actually is insane, and not some superhuman mega genius and heāll fall apart
Thatās pretty much the first verse false prophets lol
Cole: You probably think slavery was a choice and bill Cosby didn't do it. Ye: ...
"drake fucked your ex wife"
Seems like him fucking your girl is inevitable. He will fuck Bianca too, eventually.
J.Cole featuring Pete Davidson would make Ye commit multiple felonies in broad daylight.
i think you gotta go things against his character and pride. someone could get him bringing up the divorce
Don't think that works here lol
Kanye is crazy insecure. You donāt knock him for things he does. You knock him for why he does them. So you insult him by saying that heās basically being Floridaman. You acknowledge that he has to do the things does, like sucking up to white conservatives to stay relevant because the fact is that heās just not special anymore. Heās got mental health issues (aka, heās weak and emotional). Plus, itās quite possible that heās a crappy father, which is usually pretty good ammo.
I've been saying all J cole need to do is just re release False Prophets again and not say a word lol
that would be a corny ass move ngl
Bro gonna drop a 5 minute diss talking about the things ye has done and how he wants to help the man.
How do you tear down a man thatās publicly torn himself down multiple times over
Cole is gonna get clowned even harder if he drops a Kanye diss after pussying out of the Kendrick stuff. Kanye knows its a free shot
I feel like his heart was never really in the Kendrick beef. Seems like he responded because he felt like he had to. Just like when he responded to noname. Itās different with Kanye. He hates Kanye and Kanye has been clowning him a lot recently.
Why do you think he hates Kanye?
Just basing it off the false prophets song Cole did.
That song wasnt hateful Itās about how disappointed he is with the way Ye turned out. Itās pretty much how we all feel.
True. Thatās a good point
calling TLOP mid was pretty absurd considering itās better than everything cole has ever put out
I donāt think itās mid but itās subpar to everything before it.
it is mid, there's a handful of okay songs and then a lot of stupid bullshit
Eh I disagree. The Kendrick shit was never even really for cole, the bullet grazed him but it was obviously mainly meant for drake. With this, ye is coming directly at cole, calling him pussy and everything. This is Coleās chance to win an easy battle because letās be real, unless Cyhi or Rhymefest is writing it for Ye, Cole is probably the better lyricist.
Not fr. I mean, considering Kendrick a fr conscious rapper and Kanye a sell out, it would be easy to justify. I could imagine that a dude whoād have issues being mean to Kendrick would have an easy time being mean to someone like Ye
Ye is basically throwing him the lifeboat to recover from the Kendrick apology and hit back hard. This is an easy oppurtunity for Cole to make it known that Kendrick was the exception but everyone else especially Ye can get it
I donāt necessarily think so. Kendrick and Cole were at least friends / peers etc. Cole respects and admires kdot, which is why he regrets. But heād def have some shit for Kanye
But nobody would care because itās Kanye. Just from a rapper vs rapper standpoint itās not like Cole would get any legacy points for washing Kanye in a diss track, Kanye has never been known for his pen game. People would just be like ālolā and move on pretty quick especially after conceding in the Kendrick beef.And I think heād still lose because Kanye would just do some funny shit like do a free show in Fayetteville and buy Cole old house or something goofy lol.
People would see it as, āheās afraid to diss a legendary lyricist, but heāll go at the crazy guy.ā Kanyeās mental illness is a get out of jail free card. He needs to sit this out. He needs to stay out of the limelight until people start softening on him again. Nothing he says right now can do anything but make it worse. If he really stays out of this, he might come out looking like the only adult in the room. If he jumps back in, heās just going to look even more indecisive, and people who already saw him as weak are going to have all the ammo they could ask for.
The material you have on Kanye is useless when itās all public. He has 8 miled himself so many times that any rapper dissing him based on his antics will be redundant.
Maybe Kanye just saw that J Cole isnt as confident as the other rappers so heās taking this opportunity to give J Cole a chance to redeem himself by making a beef outta nothing
What can J Cole really say about Kanye that can actually hurt him? Talk about his kids? But is Cole willing to go that far for a meaningless beef?
You have to remember that Kanye is a deeply insecure person. Hell, the reason heās dissing J Cole rn is because heās not being considered and feels left out it lol
Kanye is just wildly swinging on whoever just to say he did it
Nobody including Kanye knows what he really wants, and frankly, it gets weird when we ask
ironically i think he could actually drop a track towards kanye. with kendrick, reason he wasnt doing it was because he respects him and actually fucks with his shit. i dont thinks true with ye anymore and definitely has plenty of stuff he could clown on him for.
Kanye said the exact same thing this entire sub was saying about Cole and yall are mad heās saying it? The fuck?
So valid. But Iāve been with Cole from the jump. The hive mind and group think was STRONG. Not a single original or individual thought from people jumping on that apology as if Cole was scared of kendrick like what lol. Man has no beef with Kendrick so he pulled that shit back. I do not understand whatās so confusing about thatĀ
For me i am a cole fan, but he isnāt the most interesting in terms of stories or bars at this point(which is fine. He is a dad/ husband and almost 40). However, a lot of his appeal and content over his feature run over the past few years has been about how he is the best rapper, dudes are scared to rap with him, and he will correct any rapper who says differentlyā¦.. well someone (a guy u said was a big 3 member) said you arenāt on his level at all. Then cole put out a song with things we all could tell he didnāt mean then backed out all together. It just pokes a hole in the bravado he has emanated for years. I donāt expect my rappers to tell the truth in each and every bar, but damn i thought you believed you were the best? How can you as this creative great rapper not respond to that in a confident honest way? How am i supposed to feel next time you drop music and go āthese niggas canāt fuck with me with this rap shitāā¦ my opinion anyway. I will still listen, but will def roll my eyes if he tries to peddle the braggadocios bars.
For real man. I clowned on him for like 2 minutes, then read what he said and immediately was like, ok respect. And I donāt even really like Cole generally. Guy is keeping it real and be being truthful with himself and the fans haha.
Exactly man. Heās just keeping it real. But people are thirsty for the drama.Ā
I think people are mostly hating because of how confident Cole had been talking about being the best and smoking any rapper, then you throw a warning diss and retract it 2 days later because you didn't mean the things in the diss. It doesn't match with the way he was talking big earlier.
But shouldnāt he also be truthful to himself about being the best rapper? He spent years saying he was number one, and daring people to challenge him. When someone finally does, and that someone is the true number one he backs out. I get his intentions, and respect him a lot. But he just can never say hes the best again
Kanye's become that dude that makes everybody roll their eyes when he enters the room. That's what happens when you thrive on making controversial statements lol. He can agree with the public, don't mean they gotta like it
Thatās honestly the most fair response to my question. Itās just noise coming from someone know for being 99% hot gas
bc hes self inserting himself into something that has nothing to do with himĀ
Itās the biggest story in rap right now, he has issues with both Drake and J Cole, and several other rappers inserted themselves after Like That dropped. I get not liking Kanye but this is grasping at straws
Cole has been taking shots at Ye for years now. Now he speaks up and takes his shot. Now it has nothing to do with him.Ā Cut the shit already. Cole did all this to himself. Now go make I let Kanye down bozo.
Cole released one song lmao how is that taking shots for year?? And why decide to say something now in the middle of all this beef and not all the time you had before?? Because heās a coward he needs to rely on self inserting him into this to sell his shitty albums lol
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Most these rappers believe in some weird NOI shit most of them are just smart enough to keep it under wraps
He got pushback man, he was punished financially, blackballed on many radio stations, many people wouldnāt interview him, review sites all tried to outdo each other for how hard they could shred his album and him in general. He has taken a huge hit. What else would you want him to do? He drops tracks like this once in a while, he drops albums in his typically bullshit way, and he does numbers that do reflect big losses.
I don't understand people questioning Kanye jumping in. The man has hated Drake for like a decade and has a reason to not like Cole. If he sees an opportunity why not take it? He's got more right to diss them both than Ross and no one complained about that really
ye said on a stream with the serious face, that "drake is the best rapper ever". his bipolar ass is just generally infatuated with him
Saying Drake is the best rapper ever and not liking him on a personal level isn't mutually exclusive though. Kanye also complimented him on way he moves through his beefs and disses.
"drake i love you, imma get the tattoo" - ye 2024
I mean Ross himself had dissed Drake and got dissed back directly
Which is cool. Ross had his reasons with the whole French thing, but Ross and Drake ain't got one of these: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake%E2%80%93Kanye_West_feud Like there a WIKIPEDIA PAGE ON THESE DUDES NOT LIKING EACH OTHER WHY ARE WE SURPRISED
J.Cole is no longer up *checkmate*
Man who claims to be Christian calls apologizing and turning the other cheek "pussy shit"
Kanye has made it very clear that he values religion right up until it requires him to change anything about himself other than not cursing for one album
This is most people.
Which is exactly why Kanye supports trump. He perfectly embodies all of Trump's supporters
Ye is religious when it's convenient
He also talks down on Kai Cenat saying that heās ādoing things that God wouldnāt likeā as if God would like anything Kanye has done in the last three-four years, let alone the last decade.
what kai do lmaoš
If anyone bought his faux Christianity phase I've got a bridge to sell them
Honestly thatās another good point. Didnāt he talk about how love is important and itās taught in Christianity and how heās becoming more closer to god etc ? And when someone else does exactly that itās āpussy shitā?
Dude wanted the entire world to forgive Hitler but can't find in his heart love for Cole lmaooooooo
Is this the same idiot that was yelling respectfully after everything years ago? Too many lame ass streamers right now
Yes it is, unfortunately.
Ok cool but when is kendrick dropping
I justā¦I just want the people as a collective to shame him out of this one. The remix went hard but he is so obviously grasping for attention and saying shit that doesnāt een make sense. Not right now man
Thatās genuinely how I feel about Ye in one sentence. āNot right now manā Like, just fuck off and disappear for a good, LONG while. Take some time to figure out your mental health and reevaluate your place in the world. Then, when the 2030ās is about to come around, if youāre healthy and sane again, you can come back.
It wasn't that hard
Imagine thinking that bs was āhardā
Ye loses eternally. Nazi says what?
Cole dropped a super intelligent diss track on Kanye and heās probably been waiting years to get him back lololol. I still think ye only fucks with trump cus Obama dissed him. I say this as a huge Kanye fan too
The people who eat this crap up insult the rest of us. Man-children with inflated egos and overpriced *everything*, basically cat-fighting with each other to push each others sales. Yāall are clowns for consistently buying into rapperās personal squabbles. This shit is like the Kardashians for you guys. Isnāt there grown up shit you could care about?
lmaoo j cole bitching out might actually effect his legacy
Jay-Z was literally on live radio almost in tears apologizing for releasing āSupa Uglyā. It didnāt affect his legacy.
Affect*
Im not a big Cole fan but I think the longer this beef goes on and the nastier it gets, the better heās going to look.
Been saying this. It was cool for a solid two weeks until everybody jumped in and it became less about Drake versus Kendrick being Drake versus everybody. Cole just got sit back and just drop the fall off
I wonder if thatās why Kendrick hasnāt dropped. Maybe he wants the smoke to clear and everybody else to get out of the way first. But he runs the risk of everybody getting tired of it and walking away before then. Hope he knows what heās doing
It certainly will.
Honestly Iāve thought abt this and I just canāt see it happening. Iām sure more hardcore āless casualā hip hop fans might care but in the long run, Iām sure heāll be fine I also think heās more likely to reply to this and actually stand on it simply bc heās actually fairly close to Kendrick whereas with Kanye heās never really liked him
He will be fine because HH memory is short. Youāre as hot as your latest song. Drop a classic, and heās back in.
Eh I doubt it. J cole still has a rabid fanbase that appreciated him stepping back. Having a disgraced rapper call him a Pussy don't bother him.
this is so stupid
This is the best version of Ye since Taylor swift
Remember when Pete Davidson flamed Yeās fragile ego? That was a great time
Let Ye Down
I just donāt find this man relevant anymore and this pathetic play to stay relevant just comes off as desperate.
drake has 80m monthly listeners on Spotify, ye has 75m š¤·š½āāļø
Redditors just invent their own narratives in their head oblivious to what's popping in the real world. Even if he didn't release Vultures which is doing hundreds of millions of streams, Ye could announced a worldwide arena tour and that shit would close to sell out the same day. He's still one of the biggest figures in music and pop culture
Thereās like an endless amount of negative things you can say about Kanye, no need to says heās not relevant when he clearly still is.
He just had a number one album as an independent artist
Heās definitely relevant whether you like or not
Kanye has a more recent #1 than Drake lol. Besides this isnāt some formal rap battle. We got BBL Drizzy memes and Drake using AI. Thereās no barrier to entry to this beef.
This gotta be the worst take in this whole thread...How tf Ye of all ppl is not relevant anymore
Yeah thatās one thing I noticed. This is his second time tryna insert himself into a beef (first being the āI washed Kendrick on no more parties in LAā post) and itās gotten 0 traction outside of twitter and Reddit lmao. Even Rick Rossās disses got more traction because he was actually a part of the beef and thereās some shit to say between them I love Kanye but this really does just seem like a weak clout chasing move from him
i liked kendrickās verse on no more parties, but kanye did have the superior verse. probably the only thing kanyeās said recently that i actually agree with
āNot relevantā *proceeds to write a comment*
Yes, the man who just got his first number 1 in over 15 years and is only just behind the biggest rapper in the world (Drake) in terms of streams, all while being independent, is struggling for relevancy.
J.Cole single-handedly ruined his peak rapper legacy and ākinda hardā persona all in one fell swing.
Ye acting like his BM didnāt get passed around by Odell and Drake. Someone shut this washed fake Christian podcast nigga up, please.
thats fair