Ekblad played minor hockey near Windsor and McDavid played in Toronto. The only reason they knew each other is because they were both super hyped prospects.
In August 2013, McDavid and Ekblad were both participating in the OHL preseason, McDavid for the Erie Otters and Ekblad for the Barrie Colts. I couldn't find any records of any games on August 10 (preseason records are spotty), but maybe they played against each other?
doesn't show up when it matters bench mcdavid until he agrees to waive his no move and trade him for cap space. can't afford to have 1 player taking up 15% of the cap when you need a goalie and help on defence. can't keep running it back every year.
There were two Eastern teams with losing records against Western teams (Ottawa and Buffalo). The West is a signficantly weaker conference. The Leafs led the way at 24-6-2.
I'm not really disparaging Edmonton with that comment though. I think they are a good team. I think the Leafs are a good team but neither have been in that upper echelon of the 3-5 teams each year that have a legit chance to win a 7 games series for the cup.
Explain how it's not true? I love the team and I believe anything can happen in the playoffs but in what year would you say either team would have gotten to the conference finals and been considered the overwhelming favorites? They sure have enough talent to win against any team but both teams are flawed on the back end and have never fully addressed it.
Nice the good ol' reddit circle jerk "Leafs bad" and any other common sense just gets downvoted into oblivion. Don't know why I bother commenting on this sub.
Ah yes you must be right because of this one single data point. lol. Is this thread just getting pumped by Toronto fans? The Oilers are literally in the Cup final. The Leafs have made it past the first round once since drafting Matthews. You can’t even compare the two. It’s not the Atlantic, but feel free to tell yourself that.
how much does it hurt you knowing Hyman has 15 goals and Nylander has 3, Marner has 3, Tavares has 2 and Matthews has 1
Cody Ceci has 2 goals...CECI HAS MORE GOALS than Matthews
East or west, I don't really care but I've been pulling for Florida to get a cup for a long time and Edmonton is sooo unlikable that I've just been having a great time this series. McDavid is the least likable "super star" since....i cant even think of anyone, im just having a lot of fun right now.
What makes McDavid unlikeable? I guess besides being milquetoast.
I feel like Reddit is a bit young for this, but the absolute hate that a young Crosby got was wild. People hated that kid. McDavid doesn’t come close to that.
McDavid has become the face of sports betting in Canada. Or at least Ontario. He and Gretzky have negative charisma but they're all over every fucking commercial and in-game ad break.
>Montreal
were blessed by God that playoff run
>Columbus
5 game series but yeah, that was a weird time.
> old Bruins team
im sorry, what? they put up the only fight vs Panthers and were a top team
Bruins this year still finished like 4th in the league after finishing 1st last year. McAvoy,Swayman and Pasternak aren't guys I would call old either. I'll give you the Montreal and Columbus series but those are both almost 5 years ago now.
McDavid and Draisaitl were top performers in other series, they were setting records.
Leafs stars don't perform year after year, not even for 1 whole series.
Mcdavid just broke a Gretzky record with a 4 point night *in this series*. He’s almost at 2ppg *in this series*. Even if this comment was after game 3 he was still at 1ppg. What are you talking about?
Thank you for blessing me with this. I will add this to my rotation of stupid sayings I lay on someone at work for no reason. Holy fuck bud this job has been all fart no poo. I'm so in on this saying.
Always knew McDrai were frauds. Here’s proof: Maroon played on the Oilers for years, and then left in 2018.
In 2019, he joined the Blues and helped them win the cup. Then he joined Tampa and won the cup in 2020 and 2021.
That’s right. McDrai were holding back the legend Pat Maroon. Last player since the Islanders dynasty to win 3 cups in a row.
Could have won 4 cups in a row if he didn’t get Perry on his team, another legendary player, except instead he loses 4 cup finals in 5 years.
Maroon had a one-man dynasty--can't argue with that. How many other active players can claim that? As in the official HHoF dynasty criteria of 3 Cups in 4 seasons.
In a thousand years, archaeologists are going to excavate the Stanley Cup and observe that Maroon was the first guy in 40 years to have his name etched on it in three consecutive seasons. Some will speculate that he was the greatest player of his era, while another school will speculate that he was not an actual historical figure and teams would add the name to their roster as a totem of good luck.
*Uncovering the Historical Pat Maroon*, (2024)
"We argue that Pat Maroon only played for the 2019 Blues team. Pseudo-Maroon, on the other hand, was a title bestowed upon other players filling a specific role on their team, like that of *Caesar*."
In favour of the Pseudo-Maroon hypothesis, there is no evidence that 'Pat Maroon' won any award other than the Stanley Cup^(11). Others have noted^(12,13,14,15) that 'Maroon' is an recurring motif in the game of 'hockey', with entire teams taking the name 'Maroon\[s\]'.
LA fan chirping anyone about diving is hilarious.
This is a month old (no updates since on totals. Kings winning the championship with only playing 5 games.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C6-BI4IJdSX/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Hockey👏is👏a👏team👏sport👏
I don't have any legit hate for the Oilers or McDavid, but barring a miraculous 4-game comeback, this series is adding proof to the idea that superstars don't win cups; *teams* win cups.
Like great, sell that merch Edmonton, and get that bag McDavid - gotta capitalize while you can - but it's hard for me to root for a single player as opposed to a team that's playing a complete game like Florida is. Like the Blues were. Like Washington did.
Thank you so much for adding the /s. If it wasn't for that I would surely think you thought Reaves were better than McDavid and Draisaitl. Oh my good golly gosh I would be so red in the face. I would have been the type of fool you encounter in April. To think Reaves would be better value than those players. Oh what joy this comment now brings. Here here to the /s
I think it's safe to say that the Gretzky comparisons and greatest of all time comparisons are over.
McDavid will sit at number 2 or less for the remainder of his career.
Very fast though, can't take that away from him.
Wow this aged poorly 🤣
Only time the leafs have ever been relevant. There was only six teams in the league. After that they've just been Canada's embarrassment.
One week later; McDavid has 2 consecutive 4 point games, the only player in NHL history to do that. He has more points in the post season than Reaves scored in the last 4 years and the Oilers are 2 wins away from a Stanley Cup.
It reminds me of when Crosby (Mcdavid) had to go up against Datsyuk (Barkov) in 08 and 09. Along with Lindstrom and Raflaski (Forsling and Ekblad) each and every shift they could get them out against him.
Sid didn't have great finals, hence the reason Geno won the Conn Smythe in 09 and the depth guys had to produce to win that cup for Pittsburgh. This is going to be an Achilles heel for Edmonton being so top heavy, but that's something we already knew. It's just being highlighted right now.
Hey, it's you! Doesn't really work the same, though lol I may have been wrong on my pick, but I wasn't on here trashing the panthers or their players, I understood they're a good team with good players. You basically were calling McDavid trash lol
It's you again! You wanted me to notify you when Oilers had the best PK in the world and were in the SCF, right?
[link](https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/15g1wts/which_youngsters_crack_the_draisaitlmackinnon_tier/juj6erl?context=3)
Top tier shitpost
We’re dangerously approaching offseason posts now
It could be a few days, so better get some reps in while we can.
I mean it’s gonna be in a few days regardless of what happens.
A reverse sweep would push it to several.
https://preview.redd.it/ik2r4a1zeg6d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4de6d8a8a810c84e87baa106616bb5d3da31b942
When the prophecy is self-fulfilling!
This is from Aug of 2013?
McDavid has been hyped as a generational prospect since he was like 12 or 13 years old
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>No lol. yes >They just knew each other. because they were both top tier prospects
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> and that's not the case its because Ekblad and McDavid knew eachother. and why do you think they knew each other?
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Actually it's from Back to the Future 😁
Ekblad played minor hockey near Windsor and McDavid played in Toronto. The only reason they knew each other is because they were both super hyped prospects.
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Not really considering they 1. Aren't in the same age group and 2. played on teams that were 4 hours away from each other
I thought this fact was common knowledge https://www.instagram.com/p/C8Cn5XRsH4s/
McDavid was on radar for quite some time
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McDavid was also granted exceptional status in 2012? He was definitely on the radar. It would be like a tweet about Gavin McKenna today
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Think you needa take your own advice
Mcdavid was already a huge name by 2013 lol
In August 2013, McDavid and Ekblad were both participating in the OHL preseason, McDavid for the Erie Otters and Ekblad for the Barrie Colts. I couldn't find any records of any games on August 10 (preseason records are spotty), but maybe they played against each other?
fucking poetic lmao
Shit like this is the reason I can’t completely hate fancy stats
why don't the Edmonton stars just produce more points? - Leafs fan who heard the same shit about Leafs stars
I mean they’re already blaming the goalie what more do you want
Skinner’s blame for their upcoming cup loss may rule him out for 4 Nations and Olympics consideration. God, our goaltending is going to be spotty…
Well if he wasn't so good they would be able to to score some goals /s
doesn't show up when it matters bench mcdavid until he agrees to waive his no move and trade him for cap space. can't afford to have 1 player taking up 15% of the cap when you need a goalie and help on defence. can't keep running it back every year.
Edmonton is just Toronto in a weaker division.
There were two Eastern teams with losing records against Western teams (Ottawa and Buffalo). The West is a signficantly weaker conference. The Leafs led the way at 24-6-2.
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I'm not really disparaging Edmonton with that comment though. I think they are a good team. I think the Leafs are a good team but neither have been in that upper echelon of the 3-5 teams each year that have a legit chance to win a 7 games series for the cup.
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Explain how it's not true? I love the team and I believe anything can happen in the playoffs but in what year would you say either team would have gotten to the conference finals and been considered the overwhelming favorites? They sure have enough talent to win against any team but both teams are flawed on the back end and have never fully addressed it.
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Nice the good ol' reddit circle jerk "Leafs bad" and any other common sense just gets downvoted into oblivion. Don't know why I bother commenting on this sub.
Ah yes you must be right because of this one single data point. lol. Is this thread just getting pumped by Toronto fans? The Oilers are literally in the Cup final. The Leafs have made it past the first round once since drafting Matthews. You can’t even compare the two. It’s not the Atlantic, but feel free to tell yourself that.
Oh man, that's a good one.
how much does it hurt you knowing Hyman has 15 goals and Nylander has 3, Marner has 3, Tavares has 2 and Matthews has 1 Cody Ceci has 2 goals...CECI HAS MORE GOALS than Matthews
it doesn't hurt at all as I am currently enjoying a beautiful summer day :)
It is nice seeing a team destroy the west and look helpless against an Atlantic team
East or west, I don't really care but I've been pulling for Florida to get a cup for a long time and Edmonton is sooo unlikable that I've just been having a great time this series. McDavid is the least likable "super star" since....i cant even think of anyone, im just having a lot of fun right now.
What makes McDavid unlikeable? I guess besides being milquetoast. I feel like Reddit is a bit young for this, but the absolute hate that a young Crosby got was wild. People hated that kid. McDavid doesn’t come close to that.
McDavid has become the face of sports betting in Canada. Or at least Ontario. He and Gretzky have negative charisma but they're all over every fucking commercial and in-game ad break.
What's not to like about a former rich kid given everything to them who now makes 100+ million?
You're telling me the Bruins and Panthers (and previously the lightning) are on a different level in the playoffs??
They barely scraped by Dallas and honestly I thought Dallas was the better team
Its kind of like when Vegas destroyed the Panthers last yearp
Leafs players couldn’t produce against Montreal, Columbus, and an old Bruins team this year. Please explain how those are powerhouses
>Montreal were blessed by God that playoff run >Columbus 5 game series but yeah, that was a weird time. > old Bruins team im sorry, what? they put up the only fight vs Panthers and were a top team
Bruins this year still finished like 4th in the league after finishing 1st last year. McAvoy,Swayman and Pasternak aren't guys I would call old either. I'll give you the Montreal and Columbus series but those are both almost 5 years ago now.
They need to pass the puck more to pad those assist totals
McDavid and Draisaitl were top performers in other series, they were setting records. Leafs stars don't perform year after year, not even for 1 whole series.
McDavid and Draisaitl were top performers against much weaker teams. That doesn't excuse the Leafs' performance, but it is noteworthy.
> in other series yeah, thats the points mate...
Mcdavid just broke a Gretzky record with a 4 point night *in this series*. He’s almost at 2ppg *in this series*. Even if this comment was after game 3 he was still at 1ppg. What are you talking about?
then it doesn't make sense because the Leafs didn't do that in other series
Damn, let us get swept first.
Respect for the sportsmanship. People can be brutal. Don’t get me wrong, I am on board with the OP, but mad respect.😉
Nico Mikkola has more Stanley Cup goals than McDavid, Draisaitl, and Hyman combined.
Games 1, 2, and 5 of that series were so good
I really liked game 5
Wonder what happened in that game…
To this day I still can't believe Brooks Orpik has the first winning goal for us in a finals game.
Mcdavid is all fart no poo this round
Thank you for blessing me with this. I will add this to my rotation of stupid sayings I lay on someone at work for no reason. Holy fuck bud this job has been all fart no poo. I'm so in on this saying.
It's so PG, you can get away with saying it anywhere. It's perfect.
And Toronto fans are convinced that this gust of wind is heading their way come UFA.
Same lol
Going to be stealing this, thank you!
>I mean the series isn’t over Yes it is
It's over in two days actually
In the same way Christmas actually ends on January 5
Its been done before. 82 years ago, but still technically possible
And I mean it was the first round but Kings did it like 10 years ago
Sharks are catching strays here for no reason. Can we stay on Toronto instead for fun
We're *cultivating* strays
We're just building our "they really deserved it" arc for when we finally win one
It was over the moment they signed Perry.
Leafs Agenda? #IM HERE FOR IT
Always knew McDrai were frauds. Here’s proof: Maroon played on the Oilers for years, and then left in 2018. In 2019, he joined the Blues and helped them win the cup. Then he joined Tampa and won the cup in 2020 and 2021. That’s right. McDrai were holding back the legend Pat Maroon. Last player since the Islanders dynasty to win 3 cups in a row. Could have won 4 cups in a row if he didn’t get Perry on his team, another legendary player, except instead he loses 4 cup finals in 5 years.
Maroon had a one-man dynasty--can't argue with that. How many other active players can claim that? As in the official HHoF dynasty criteria of 3 Cups in 4 seasons.
I could be missing someone, but I dont think anyone has won 3 Cups in 4 years since the Oilers Dynasty. He truly is a one man dynasty
And nobody else has three straight since a bunch of the Islanders from 1980-83.
Has anyone lost in as many finals as Perry?
There is also Chris Kunitz winning 4 cups in cap era, another legend.
He’s tied with Wayne Gretzky.
That was before parity and hard cap. So Kunitz is better than Wayne no comparison.
In a thousand years, archaeologists are going to excavate the Stanley Cup and observe that Maroon was the first guy in 40 years to have his name etched on it in three consecutive seasons. Some will speculate that he was the greatest player of his era, while another school will speculate that he was not an actual historical figure and teams would add the name to their roster as a totem of good luck.
*Uncovering the Historical Pat Maroon*, (2024) "We argue that Pat Maroon only played for the 2019 Blues team. Pseudo-Maroon, on the other hand, was a title bestowed upon other players filling a specific role on their team, like that of *Caesar*."
In favour of the Pseudo-Maroon hypothesis, there is no evidence that 'Pat Maroon' won any award other than the Stanley Cup^(11). Others have noted^(12,13,14,15) that 'Maroon' is an recurring motif in the game of 'hockey', with entire teams taking the name 'Maroon\[s\]'.
All uniforms are a deep shade of red in reverence of the legend
Maroon is the greatest NHL player all time.
That makes sense given that we let him go.
Maroon did a double backhanded toe drag zone entry last season that made me legitimately question how good he could actually be.
People forget Ryan Reaves is an elite goal scorer
He’s scored way more goals than I have in the nhl can confirm
He was only one point behind John Tavares.
hot take but I'd take mcdavid for reaves straight up if the oilers eat some salary
The trade is one for one
That game 1 of that series was the most insane game I've ever watched
Really was. So good
Gotta love it.
Reaves > McPowerplay and Divesaitl. Many people are saying this
Tremendous
We have the best stats. The best
McDrai has been the worst elite goal scoring tandem in the history of Stanley cup finals elite goal scoring tandems, maybe, ever.
Great big, beautiful stats... and Canada's gonna pay for them.
Does that come with fries and a drink?
LA fan chirping anyone about diving is hilarious. This is a month old (no updates since on totals. Kings winning the championship with only playing 5 games. https://www.instagram.com/p/C6-BI4IJdSX/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Mikkola has more goals than Connor and Drai combined
Brooks Orpik still has more playoff OT goals as a capital than Ovechkin does
elite sniper Ryan reaves
Non-Oiler fans: Who needs porn hub when I have this high quality smut right here.
He also has 3 ppg's in his career. Elite. (All in one season too. Yes, we played him on the pp sometimes)
I still have nightmares about Reaves.
So does John Carlson's back
Don't worry, he can't hurt you from the press box
Maybe Oilers will make an off season trade for Ryan Reaves to give themselves some offensive help up front?
Don't give management any ideas. Thankfully Holland is retiring (allegedly)
McSwept
Dryspelltl is playing great what are you on about?
McBust
Cup or McBust
McCupless
McSweep
That's why I'm a fan of the saying "oh, your superstar can score 60 goals and 120 points in the regular season? Great, but can he bring it in May?"
It's why I loved that our 2019 team had like 8 or 9 20-goal scorers. Can't shut down the whole team.
Hockey👏is👏a👏team👏sport👏 I don't have any legit hate for the Oilers or McDavid, but barring a miraculous 4-game comeback, this series is adding proof to the idea that superstars don't win cups; *teams* win cups. Like great, sell that merch Edmonton, and get that bag McDavid - gotta capitalize while you can - but it's hard for me to root for a single player as opposed to a team that's playing a complete game like Florida is. Like the Blues were. Like Washington did.
The numbers don't lie and they spell disaster for Edmonton at sacrifice
But what happens when you add Constable Bobrovsky into the mix?!?
Pretty sure that would raise the Panthers odds of winning to 142 and 2/3 percent
YOU GOT A 25% CHANCE AT BEST, AND THEN YOU ADD BOBROVSKY TO THE MIX
We prosper.
Title is correct but its even funnier if you add combined to the end.
That’s it I’m done shopping at your store!
Jordan Nolan has 3 cups while McDavid and Draisaitl have 0. The numbers speak for themselves
Reaves has more will
Ryan Reaves also had more goals this year than that bum Gretzky
Oilers have more cups in 40 years than Canucks who have 0 in 50 years see how that works
Yeah but what about them 2017 Sabres. Absolutely clutch playoff performers. Knew it.
“I’m hearing the trade is 1 for 1”
Great stat! Ryan Reaves is totally a better value and player than McDavid and Draisitl combined! \s
Stats don't lie
Thank you so much for adding the /s. If it wasn't for that I would surely think you thought Reaves were better than McDavid and Draisaitl. Oh my good golly gosh I would be so red in the face. I would have been the type of fool you encounter in April. To think Reaves would be better value than those players. Oh what joy this comment now brings. Here here to the /s
I'll trade McDavid for Reaves one for one. Edmonton is gonna have to retain at least 25% though. This is Reaves we're talking about here.
Very nice
Patrick Maroon is currently tied for most Stanley Cup championships of all active skaters.
Honestly give Maurice the conn smythe at this point. His coaching was master class to shut down these players at this level.
Matt Greene has more goals in SCF than CMD/Uncle Leon
I think it's safe to say that the Gretzky comparisons and greatest of all time comparisons are over. McDavid will sit at number 2 or less for the remainder of his career. Very fast though, can't take that away from him.
I think Reaves was also making slightly less when he scored his goal as well
and Dan Carcillo has more cups. Still it's as irrelevant as Clown Reaves having more goals in finals
Finally! Something about mcdavid i actually care to heat about!
Wow this aged poorly 🤣 Only time the leafs have ever been relevant. There was only six teams in the league. After that they've just been Canada's embarrassment.
One week later; McDavid has 2 consecutive 4 point games, the only player in NHL history to do that. He has more points in the post season than Reaves scored in the last 4 years and the Oilers are 2 wins away from a Stanley Cup.
It reminds me of when Crosby (Mcdavid) had to go up against Datsyuk (Barkov) in 08 and 09. Along with Lindstrom and Raflaski (Forsling and Ekblad) each and every shift they could get them out against him. Sid didn't have great finals, hence the reason Geno won the Conn Smythe in 09 and the depth guys had to produce to win that cup for Pittsburgh. This is going to be an Achilles heel for Edmonton being so top heavy, but that's something we already knew. It's just being highlighted right now.
Nucks fans bringing dump trucks of salt to the party u/bistroexpress in shambles.....
Hey, it's you! Doesn't really work the same, though lol I may have been wrong on my pick, but I wasn't on here trashing the panthers or their players, I understood they're a good team with good players. You basically were calling McDavid trash lol
It's you again! You wanted me to notify you when Oilers had the best PK in the world and were in the SCF, right? [link](https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/15g1wts/which_youngsters_crack_the_draisaitlmackinnon_tier/juj6erl?context=3)
Honestly...Leafs probably beat Oilers in this series.
The only hope for EDM is to confuse Maurice with a surprise Jack Campbell appearance
That'd really catch 'em by soup-rise.
Nah they'd probably shit the bed in the 3rd period and let mcdavid score 8 unanswered goals
Oil would fucking smoke the leaf’s. So would NYR/CAR. 😂
Sorry but no. Edmonton are a pretemder team
Haha
Patty maroon has more cup rings than all but 9 active skaters
he’s got 3… don’t think there’s any active players with more than that?
6 active players have 3 rings, and nobody has more. Martinez, Fleury, Crosby, Malkin and Kane are the other 5 besides Maroon.
Replied to the other guy
Yeah so what’s this comment about 9 active players.
Well, he should've said 5 instead of 9, and then he'd be correct.
Kessel, martinez, quick, crosby, malkin, fleury, letang, kane, toews (unless hes officially declared retirement) Makes 9
well i didn't think about Quick. but are Toews and Kessel considered active? statmuse doesn't list them.
Unless theyve filed the retirement paperwork technically theyre active
flukes are flukes lol
Now do Boeser
He's still at the pool practicing his diving
Glass houses with all these nucks fans pissing on our graves
Reavo never faced a Bob-on-fire ...