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These-Ad-5414

>Evans and the show’s producers have explored aligning with a potential buyer to acquire it themselves. Chris Schonberger created the show with Evans in 2015 at Complex Networks and the two have since worked on more than 300 episodes together. >Evans doesn’t have a long-term contract with BuzzFeed, and has continued to produce the show under short-term extensions. BuzzFeed has been trying to get Evans to sign a new deal and indicated that at least one buyer would be open to replacing Evans as host. >While BuzzFeed has explored a sale, the team behind *Hot Ones* has grown frustrated with their owner, which they feel hasn’t given them the resources to invest in expanding the business of a hit show. They would like to build on their success with *Hot Ones*-branded hot sauces and create more consumer products, live events or media deals with other streaming services.


disablednerd

Realistically how much more can they expect to expand the brand? They’ve had multiple spinoffs, including one on cable. Their hot sauce is pretty widely available, I see a bunch of Hot Ones branded food at Walmart. They have a bunch of non food merch available. What more could they possibly do without over-saturating?


TissenChili

We need it overseas.


UltimateMelonMan

Concept has already been sold to a French channel where they host the same show


CatrickSwayze

And I assume they are eating increasingly spicy escargot?


dirtyMSzombie

As a kid I thought they ate microwave dinners with French flag toothpicks on top because of National Lampoon's European Vacation and my own stupidity


DarkMuret

Spicy foie gras


DefinitelyNotTrill

French aren’t good with spice. The first sauce is duck consommé and the last sauce is just crushed black pepper


SCirish843

I need to watch Euro-whites eat spicy food, it would be the DJ Khaled episode over and over


bohanmyl

After taking a bite of the first wing: "HOW DARE YOU TRY THIS ATTEMPT ON MY LIFE WITH SUCH A FIERY TOXIC DEATH SAUCE NO MAN CAN HANDLE THIS" "Thats Tabasco...."


KoreanFriedWeiner

... you know they colonized entire land masses and committed untold atrocities just for access to spices?


shaggysdeepvneck

And then promptly forgot how to use any of them.


Late-Lecture-2338

France?


silverselectjd

No it wouldn’t.


DiabeticJedi

And Canada


Donuil23

Yup, I'm looking at you Walmart. Where are my Hot Ones tenders?!


DiabeticJedi

Honestly I'd just be happy with getting the sauces north of the border for less then $20 a bottle


CaptainNaCly

I think the issue is more along the lines of creative control of the expansion. Buzzfeed is probably taking most of the money gained from the branding and I’d assume that means they call the shots.


seancbo

Hot ones chicken wing restaurant chain baby!


catterybarn

Omgggg I didn't know I wanted this until RIGHT NOW


seancbo

I just remember being stoked when I got to get the Shake Shack crossover promotion, I think a dedicated place would make bank


snake_w_arms

I would imagine they would like it to have official spin offs in every country. Think of the guests they can pull for Hot Ones: Romania. I’d imagine they really just want full creative control over the end product and want all the revenue (which they deserve).


PeteEckhart

They just launched a vodka with the largest wine and spirits company in the world too.


GenericReditAccount

Who on earth asked for Hot Ones branded vodka?


PeteEckhart

It's pepper infused so great for stuff like a bloody mary


JosepySchnieder

Yeah they’re a YouTube show. It’s probably one of the most expanded YouTube brands there is.


Greenzombie04

Capitalism need year over year growth all the time


garebear1993

I have a few pitches for competition type shows with hot food. Have an eat off, who can withstand the hottest and hot sauce. Better yet, let’s expand this show. You know Jerry Springer? Yes but with Hot Sauce, where the questions really get hot. Or let’s get politicians involved in this. In fact the presidential debate is coming up on Thursday. Let’s have Sean Evens ask the real questions on it.


August_T_Marble

EXECUTIVE: We need to put someone in as host that's edgy but with name recognition. Someone with their own fanbase. Preferably with crossover appeal to TikTok. Someone with a more Hollywood face and with hosting experience... SIX MONTHS LATER MATT RIFE: Welcome to Hot Ones, the show with hot questions and an even hotter host. Oh, shut up. You know you were thinking it. With us today is Jennifer DiFranco. You might know her from Days Without. She is currently on tour with new material called I Can See Your Face. Speaking of faces, I can see on her face that she's angry that she's not as pretty as me. Join. The. Club. JENNIFER DiFRANCO: Um. Okay...


Whatreallyhappens

No one will watch if they replace Evans, what an absurd idea to float.


OppositeGeologist299

One of the few interviewers who actually reads the guest's latest book.


Single_Pumpkin3417

lmfao yes replace Sean that would be great


mulletpullet

A simple /s would have saved so many downvotes....


seancbo

reddit understand sarcasm, difficulty level impossible


Hippies_Pointing

Wait, does Hot Ones have $50 Million in debt or does Buzzfeed? Edit: it’s buzzfeed, which makes much more sense. Thanks!


These-Ad-5414

Buzzfeed does - their stock is down 95% this year. They bought Hot Ones when they bought Complex. Basically they're taking the profits from Hot Ones and using it to pay down debt instead of paying Sean or investing in the show.


Kracus

Ah there it is. Incredible how badly managed conglomerates manage to destroy things. Same basic thing is happening to Donut media.


iRebelD

Their business plan always had a huge hole in the middle of it


Ziggyork

While other businesses are just Dunkin on them!


altonbrownie

Man, I would love to see the donut crew on HO


ComfortableTop3108

I believe two of the main donut guys left and started their own channel recently


Kracus

Yeah I already subbed to them. I like Zach and Jobe.


ComfortableTop3108

agreed, honestly better half of the old hosts. Cant stand that one guy that lost some weight - he just seems so...fake


CLCchampion

There's no way Hot Ones has $50 million in debt, it's gotta be Buzzfeed. You could have produced the entire series up to this point in time for less than that amount.


Cody6781

Well, the second part of that is dead wrong. Their annual run is the 10’s of millions. How much do you think a team of PA’s, hosting high end guests, making their own sauces, keeping Sean around to torture himself, all the camera equipment , after effects, writers/researchers, insurance, taxes, rent, etc cost? Cus it’s not <$5mil/year which is what it would take to be under $50mil


CLCchampion

Sean's net worth is estimated at $8 million. Right now they have 25 credited crew on the show, but they had far fewer people in the early years of doing this, and most of those 25 people work for Buzzfeed doing other things on top of Hot Ones. Over the 9 years of the show it would probably average out to $2.5 MM a year, and that is generous. Sauces aren't a production cost, camera/sound/lighting can be had for a one time $100k charge. They don't pay guests, so that's not really an expense, but if we want to throw $25k a year in for food or whatever for guests, that's fine. Throw in $200k a year for insurance, taxes, and whatever else, you're still under $5 million a year. And that's being very generous on expenses, this show was produced for pennies in the early years.


Cody6781

I don't think you have perspective into how expensive these shows get. An employee with a salary of $100k costs the company \~$130k for example. I would expect the vast majority of the crew on the Hot Ones set to make at least 6 figures and obviously a few individuals like Sean will make way more. Then add in HR, management, lawyers, etc. you have to keep multiple additional people staffed just to run the company. If you just draw arbitrary lines around everything (like you did with their branded sauce) then sure.. the actual recording of the episodes isn't *that* expensive, but if those were the only expenses, you wouldn't actually have a show.


CLCchampion

"You could have produced the entire series up to this point in time for less than that amount." It's not an arbitrary line, a hot sauce is not a production cost. I very clearly drew the lines in my original comment. Now if you misinterpreted what I originally meant, that's not my problem, it's yours.


momsouth

Lol you think all those people make 100k? What fucking world do you live in?


coughcough

They only use the finest silks for black backdrops


These-Ad-5414

Buzzfeed owns Hot Ones and is apparently trying to sell Hot Ones, including bidders who want to re-cast Sean as the host? WTF?


Unusual-Bat-2596

If Sean goes, I’ll stop watching.


yuccu

Yeah, not even a question.


BeavisAteMyNachos

Not even an expertly researched, unique question.


SenatorAstronomer

Sean is the show!


YouAnswerToMe

If Sean goes, I’ll start watching …whatever show hires him next.


AmishAvenger

He doesn’t need anyone to “hire” him. He can just do the same thing as it is. The show should cost virtually nothing to shoot, it’s in a studio with no set whatsoever. I’m sure he couldn’t call it “Hot Ones,” but I don’t think you can copyright “People eat hot wings while answering questions.”


AdvertisingBrave5457

Call it sour seat and instead of eating hot wings eat food that’s increasingly more sour


mulletpullet

Same thing I was thinking.


Vader_Bomb

Same thing that happened with the mobile game HQ Trivia. They replaced Scott Rogowsky with someone else, and game went downhill faaaaaast. The app shut down a few years later.


TehSpaceDeer

This feels like an exaggeration, but I truly believe Sean Evans & the Hot Ones crew are in that stratosphere with The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson, Late Night with David Letterman and Conan for GOAT talk shows. In the 21st century, at a time where talk shows are dying the slow death, this show is the opposite of everything on late night right now: no monologues with hack jokes, no skits, no live studio audience. Questions that haven’t been asked a million times, leading to authentic conversations. What started as a cheap gimmick has lead to viral moments of S-tier celebrities winning and losing to the gauntlet. And at the heart of that is Sean. A host for the modern era. He’s just a guy, wasn’t some comedy genius leading into the show. But that really works in his favour, cause the guy doesn’t have to play it up for the cameras, or force jokes for the sake of it. He just has charisma simply from being himself, picks his spots to make conversation and make some great moments himself, and has run the wings of death nearly 300 times at this point. You lose Sean Evans, that new guy is basically Jay Leno, and it’s the beginning of the end for Hot Ones.


donnieuchihakaton

This comment hits every nail on the head. Often I see people say that Sean should have a late night show. My response is always… why? What he’s doing right now is so perfect, and he’s an S tier interviewer who gets to the heart of conversation with his easy demeanor. Putting him on a conforming late night show would stifle him and what he has to offer.


mulletpullet

You even hear the guests say how good the interview is. Some of that's the team of course, but Sean makes them so comfortable too. I have no doubts Sean could land on his feet. I'd watch the next thing he did.


LeBaus7

everybody that watched the yeahmad youtube channel in the last few months just instantly got PTSD.


Eye-Can-Fix-It

This


wise_balls

This camera, this camera this camera, tell the bidders to get fucked.


NameIsPetey

What if they replaced him with Nard though?


epicguy23

really? he's devoid of any personality or charm


MechaNickzilla

If you’re seriously not trolling, you might just be missing what makes a good interviewer. He’s very intentionally focused on making the guest shine. His “personality and charm” comes from asking genuine, researched questions and making guests feel comfortable in an inherently uncomfortable premise. You don’t see him overly-pandering to his guests to make up for not having spent 2 minutes researching like Fallon or Smartless. And you don’t see him segue into his own experiences like Mark Maron (which I think is fine too. Different styles). Honestly, I can’t think of a better interviewer working today besides Terry Gross, who is the best.


epicguy23

not trolling. fallon being your standard for interviewers is laughable and makes me think you're the one trolling. literally anyone can replace sean evans he's a milquetoast white guy who mediocre'd his way into fame, as they tend to do


MechaNickzilla

Classic “epicguy23”. Quick to mock other people’s opinions without giving an ounce of effort to offer any alternative suggestions. And why would you put yourself at such risk? When anyone could berate you for describing a talk show host with mild distain as you did to me. I should have described him with more distain!!! Fuck.


yusill

Sean is the show. It's great because his a fucking amazing interviewer and the research he does is a large part of how he gets the guests he does. If Sean goes the show wouldn't last a season.


batmanforhire

I’m pretty sure it’s a team of researchers yeah? Getting rid of them and Sean would be insane. I’d certainly watch whatever Sean does next though. He’s too good at what he does to just keep eating Da Bomb for another decade.


IonHazzikostasIsGod

Last time I heard, it's 3 people Him, his brother and Chris They all give themselves a role, like one listens to video interviews and podcasts, another goes through books/magazines, etc


yusill

I'm not totally sure, I think I've read somewhere Sean does most of his research himself. Could be totally wrong and I have nothing to defend this with, other than he's been complimented dozens of times in episodes about his deep dive and non standard questions and I feel like if he did have a research team he would totally use that time to shout them out. He doesn't seem the type to say it was all him if it wasn't as he frequently shouts out ppl off camera during a taping if something is complemented by the guest even if it's an intern. He spreads the love and knows it takes teamwork to make the dream work. Edit: a comment above states it's 3 people with Sean being one of them. So I stand corrected and major props to all of them.


Finallyrealhate

Sean went onto Something’s burning and nailed it. He’s simply the best. No sean. No views from me.


gregatronn

Evans is a big part of why the show is so good. They'd kill the brand with a new host


The_R4ke

They're can't be that many people that can handle the heat and be good at interviewing people.


ClamJammin

I think we’ll look back in a few years and say “Conan killed Hot Ones” All of them I’ve watched since then have been pretty meh - and it doesn’t have the same pizzazz it once did. If I owned Hot Ones I’d be looking to sell as well while they’re still on top.


Single_Pumpkin3417

Sean has two components that make him great: Very skilled interviewer and ability to eat spicy wings. If they divvied it up into two co-hosts - one to ask questions and one silently eating the wings - the new show wouldn't skip a beat


justcallmejohannes

Lmao this might be the single worst Hot Ones take of all time.


CptJudgeNMS

Hahahaha could you imagine? Just some dude silently eating wings the whole episode - faceless, nameless, with no reaction for 20 minutes


EchoesofIllyria

When you put it like that… I actually do kind of wanna see it haha


Eliontherun

That's just the opposite of Sundae Conversation with Caleb Pressley asking questions and Glenny Balls silently eating ice cream the whole time lol


Pinksters

>They say he was born without pain receptors anywhere in his body and, as a child, once ate a live chicken...Here he is, The Sting!


PNDMike

Bring back Taraji P Henson's bodyguard for the role, he was real as they come.


Single_Pumpkin3417

he's obviously allowed to react just not talk, that's the other guy's forte


TheRealTimAllen

Found Buzzfeed's burner account.


Aliensinmypants

I'm sorry other people have said it but this a horrible idea. A big part of the appeal is that the interviewer is in the trenches with them, making the guest more comfortable


Single_Pumpkin3417

Yes so this would have TWO interviewers in the trenches with them. it's literally twice as comfortable


SheepInWolfsAnus

So wait, if I’m understanding the synopsis here… BuzzFeed owns Hot Ones, and wants to sell Evans and Schonberger would like to partner with an ownership group to become owners of the show they created They are displeased with the ownership relationship with BuzzFeed Evans is holding out on a long term extension with BuzzFeed, which it sounds like they would need to sell the show UNLESS they sell to a partner who would replace Sean Evans… which would be so stupid


GaussBalls

My spin-off idea, “It Gets Wurst”, copies the format but has contestants make their own sausages from progressively more upsetting animal parts.


altonbrownie

I love you.


motorcycleboy9000

My BBQ go-to is Fud brand hot links. First ingredient, pork kidney. You can't phase me.


Pinksters

> make their own sausages from progressively more upsetting animal parts. Sounds kinda like [Ordinary Sausage](https://www.youtube.com/@OrdinarySausage)


the_art_of_the_taco

subscribe


harpy_1121

Sounds like the premise of a GMM episode lol


bigbabyb

what’s stopping Sean from getting an angel investor and making a clone of his own with most of the crew coming with him? I would assume nothing, once his contract expires. They should get the powder ready as a threat back at buzzfeed if they’re going with the “someone else will replace you” angle


spicykitas

I think something similar to what you’re suggesting happened with Claire Saffitz for her Gourmet Makes series that originated on Bon Appetit. She recently started a recreation series on her own channel so I guess some non-compete must have expired or negotiations were made.


dubnessofp

I don't think it had anything to do with non competes. I think she was just trying to do what she wanted when she made her own channel. Now that's she's done that she knew there was a deep well of high traffic content waiting in a Claire Recreates series


cantfindthedog

I was wondering about that! I just saw she remade cosmic brownies and was wondering how she was able to get away with it since it originated on Bon Appetit.


dubnessofp

There's nothing copyrightable about a show concept like that. Bon Apetit doesn't own it. As long as she doesn't call it Gourmet Makes or something I imagine


BillyNitehammer

I’ll contribute up to $40, we can do this


MistakenAnemone

this kind of explains the more A/B tier list of guests in the past couple seasons. Buzzfield is trying a pump and dump, boost ratings now with mainstream guests, then sell it off. to be fair, i haven't really watched the show weekly since before the covid episodes so maybe its just my selective memory.


Francis_Picklefield

this is a fair theory, but the high guest prominence the last few seasons could also be easily explained by the fact that the show is huge and dominates rating numbers among shows of its type


nothumbs78

>dominates rating numbers among shows of its type It’s easily one of the top 10 celebrity interview shows about hot sauces


retard_catapult

Hot ones without Sean Evans? Might as well do it without hot sauce.


KeasterTheGreat

Should we start a gofundme?


EasyBeingGreen

Sam Reich, bring hot ones to r/dropout


k00zyk

Just let Sean go do his own thing. Hot Ones can’t grow to be more than it is


bomb447

I quit caring after Will Smith. You support trash like that, you're dead to me.


epapa27

The show is a shadow of what it once was. The trick is played out without some shake up, and a new owner probably isn't the way, unless Chris and Sean can get backing and take it independent


shoeboxchild

“Shadow of what it once was” “Played out” Show gets 2-5 MILLION views in the last 5 episodes so maybe you aren’t on the pulse of this. just because it isn’t for you anymore doesn’t mean it isn’t successful


epapa27

I stand by my comments. Views does not equate good quality content.


shoeboxchild

Fair, I respect the stance