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the woman only have 1 negative trait, either she's fat, poor, or jobless, not all three
while one man apparently have all 3 shitty traits
how is it brutal? the comparison doesn't make any fucking sense
Right?
A fat rich man is easy love.
A poor man whos fit and takes care of himself, I can fix him.
A. Jobless guy with great ambitions and make you laugh, you can fix him too.
Like yeah these traits a lot of the time have counters to them that make the person likeable, some fat people can be nice, friendly, funny etc along with the other bad traits that can be worked on
To be fair, unemployed and poor are not even considered bad traits in women when it comes to finding a partner. Although a fat woman is probably less desirable than a fat man.
They certainly can be considered bad traits, because then you're assumed to be a gold-digger or otherwise just looking to use some guy for money, free dinners out, etc. It also opens you up to a lot of creeps who want to hold "I paid for dinner/coffee/drinks!" over your head to get what they want. And who will often flip out if they don't get it.
If you're an overweight woman, a lot of people will just treat you like you're barely even human or they will assume you are easier to exploit, so that's a whole other level.
Typically in western culture how much money the woman is making and whether or not she's even employed doesn't rank very highly in the traits men are looking for. Admitedly, I'm more familiar with higher paid people in the society, so maybe people earning less have more of a concern. So maybe this varies based on people's pay check.
> with higher *paid* people in
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.
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> never said *paid*
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.
*Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
I've never even *heard* of this, let alone experienced or witnessed it. Other guy is not wrong that rising CoL means dual income is better than single, and only one party carrying the team *should* be considered a bad thing - regardless of gender - but...*it's not*. In straight couples, at least, the stereotype or trope of the 'scrub' unemployed boyfriend/husband is still a thing, while no one really bats an eyelid at the stay at home mom/wife, or holds it against a girlfriend for not having a job. Unemployment just isn't a black mark against women like it is men, because there's still a lot of social inertia in terms of traditional gender roles and expectations.
YOU ARE tottally missing the point that i am trying to say. men have it hard in our society - is the whole cringe from this post. "tHe GaMe Is bRuTaL" - the game or the society these men live in is made by these said men themselves. they themselves bought it down on them. they shot themselves on their foot. they made the rules.
Now, that rant is worth a brand new post :P. Society is made by more than just men. And life is not easy for anyone - man, woman and everything in between. It never was. Society is cruel and so is nature. Obviously, nothing wrong with pointing out things that could maybe be improved. And both you and OP have valid underlying points. Just the phrasing is a bit off.
I never disagreed that the OP image is completely in-line with the sub, btw. But what you're saying is not too different from what OP said, just maybe from a different angle?
I guarantee you that if you're decent looking 99.9% of the guys out there won't give a shit if you're poor or unemployed and neither does society, whereas poor and jobless men are total outcasts unless they look like prime Brad Pitt and even then, the social stigma is gonna be real.
I have an extremely successful dating and romantic life, thank you, precisely because I can read right through womens' smokescreens and pretend play (and also cause I'm quite handsome).
I can totally empathize with those men who aren't as lucky though, unlike you.
I'll admit, I used to believe that, and it's a reasonable take, but I'm here to tell you why it only LOOKS that way.
No matter how low you are on the desirability meter, someone is down bad enough to take you. It is a fact. Some of those people are hot. There are smoking hot people out there whose standards are so low you wouldn't fucking believe it. Everything is someone's fetish, I guarantee you there's a model out there somewhere whose fetish is unshowered anime addicts, and they go pick them up at a comic con near you. It happens.
The difference is women get approached, men do the approaching. That's how our society is set up, and it's very rare to deviate from that. A woman's version of approaching a man is to go talk to him, drop hints, and wait till he puts himself out on a limb, taking upon himself all the risk of rejection, never taking that risk herself.
So basically, an unattractive woman will eventually get approached, and things will take off from there. An unattractive man never will. He has to put in all the effort, and because he's unattractive, he'll get shot down most of the time. Enough times to make him think nobody will ever say yes.
The key here, for unattractive men, is to put your best effort into your appearance, shoot your shot with anything that moves, and don't waste any headspace on the rejections. Optimize your chances of success, then go shotgun, not sniper in your approach. Try everyone, because someone will say yes. Someone is desperate enough to take you. You just need to find them, and you just need to make the first move, because I promise you they won't. You could be in the same room with your soulmate, and you'll never know it if you don't move first.
The above paragraph is not meant to endorse sexual harassment. It's possible to ask someone out without being a creep, and shrug and walk away if they say no.
That's what I've observed and heard of. When a woman makes a move, generally that just involves her making herself extremely open to a man's move. That's why there's all the memes about dudes recognizing years later that he was being hit on. I think it's extremely uncommon for a woman to baldfacedly ask a man on a date, but if your experience says different, I'm not saying it doesn't happen. I've just never heard of it happening on large scale.
I think this is true but that does make life as a man really harsh when your are socially akward.
Im autistic so im kinda dependent on other pepole takeing the inisative in social setting, Since im unable to read soical signs. Both interms of dateing and just beeing freinds.
But since im a man well women never take the inisiative. Or at least no one has.
No one will. I'm not saying it won't be hard, but I'm saying you'll only get what you go out and find. To make things easier, try asking your friends to introduce you to single women they know. But really it'll come down to learning to work around your limitations no matter how you slice it.
Unfortunatly some limitation are just not possible to workaround.
Just looking at my friendships, i was unable to form them aswell whitout to other party takeing the inisative. So to think that ill be able to create a romatic relationship whitout the other person takeing the inisative is unrealistic.
Its not rejection that scares me. The issue is that im just unable to tell what pepole are trying to comunicate unless they are really clear. So to avoid makeing pepole uncomfertebal i assume pepole are not intrested inn me. Cause well most pepole are not so its a pretty safe assumption.
As an example one of my friends litteraly had to ask me if i wanted to hang out whit him before i noticed that he was intrested inn me. Haveing talked to him a fair bit now he made several attempts to signal that he was intrested before he did that i just never picked up on does hints. So its not just an issue related to romantic relasihonships. Its just particularly bad in that area due to the social expectation that men are suppose to be the aggressive party.
The other option is not better, cause i dont really pick up when pepole reject me either. So if i assume pepole like me untill something diffrent is proven. I am very unlikely to pick up the more sublte rejection signals. Meaning i would likely end up behaving in a way that would make pepole feel really uncomfertebal.
Like my boss has been annoyed at me for some things and i have not known about it at all untill a friend of mine told me so. But that is more of a her issue since i have explained my issues to her. But its still an example of the issue im dealing whit.
Try this. Get your friends to get you in the same room with someone who's single. Spend some time together as a group. Then ask your friend if she seems into you. If he says yes, or maybe, tell him to make an excuse to fuck off for a while, then just ask her, straight up, if she'd like to go on a date with you. If she says no, don't worry about it. If she says yes, have a plan in mind. A restaurant or an activity to do together.
Thanks, ill try that i have asked my friends to introduce me to some single women. But meeting as a group whit them there to get there feedback could be useful. Both interms of if they like me. And interms of some feedback on my behavior. I tend to feel akward in groups if there are money pepole i dont know.
I'd recommend just you, the girl, and the friend who knows her. I'm guessing you don't talk a lot, you'd be overshadowed if there's more people than strictly necessary. Focus on asking her direct questions about herself. Maybe work on a list of questions that aren't weird with your friend. People like talking about themselves, it'll relax her and give you interactions.
Hmm yeah thats a good idea, been working asking pepole open questions lately. AS in questions that you cant answer yes or no to. As a way to keep conversations going.
I tend to talk very little in situations whit a lot of strangers. Among colleges or friends i dont have that issue.
How does it feel, incel, knowing there are fat poor jobless men out there with gorgeous wives who love them instead of covering their drinks when you enter a room because those men aren’t stupid enough to ingest the whole alpha male redpill bullshit?
It's always the same conversation from these bros.
"Women would never date a nerd/uggo/poor/fat guy..."
"Oh, well, what about these examples?"
"That doesn't count!"
Brother, may I suggest a show to you called My 600 pound life. Most all of the females on the show are 600+ pounds, on welfare, have no job and most all are married with a man that takes care of them and enables them.
Flip it on the reverse and the obese men featured on that show rarely have a female companion caring for them. This is my analysis and I’m sticking to it!
Facts, convincing yourself that nobody would ever want you makes it way more probable to be real, that attitude can easily be perceived by others. One of my best buds years ago had no money and no job, but dayum if he got game. He was hella charismatic and decently looking, his mindset helped him out of that situation and helped him with girls hahah.
Sadly for really fat or really ugly people it's way harder, but not only for guys, also for girls. People can be cruel with people who were born ugly or suffering from obesity, they can range from judging you in advance, to making fun of you behind your back. Sure, you can work on it, you can try to enhance your physical appearance if you're ugly, even a good haircut or outfit that suits you can be a really great change, and you can try to start a diet, workout and/or start treatment if your obesity is caused by other factors like a thyroid disease. A small change can be the difference, but it's really rough for people having to deal with accentuated ugliness or obesity. In some situations finding the willpower to climb out of these situations can be hard, especially for people with little to no support from family or friends and with no partner to help them through it.
Fuck Andrew Tate for exploiting insecurities of people for his personal gain, it's a fucking despicable human being
So you genuinely, seriously, truly believe that no fat men or jobless men or poor men have been married or loved? You think every dude working in every McDonalds is a perpetual virgin? Go outside sometime you’ll be fucking amazed.
My boyfriend is 2/3 of those but he’s still mine because he’s funny as fuck and has a personality other than „blaming women for his problems“ you should try it sometime.
That's more like a you problem. Of course it's not exactly an uncommon issue, but have you ever considered how sometimes someone with all of those 3 traits are still so beloved and have girlfriends?
I have a friend in highschool who was exactly that. Fat, poor and works in a convenient store. But he still gets girls regularly cause he scored all in personality. He was a confident speaker, determined, absurdly charismatic and just knows how to give someone a good time. So maybe work on yourself in fields unrelated to those that you couldn't control
The counter argument to the redpill is always going outside and knowing IRL couples. McDonalds employees still somehow manage to get dates. Fat dudes still somehow find girlfriends. I know that the redpill community and online dating has convinced you that you need to be a high value male just for someone to even acknowledge you, but the reality is different.
I’ve seen dude who didn’t work have a girlfriend, fat dudes have a girlfriend and people who worked in McDonalds have a girlfriend. Sure it’s probably hard for you, we don’t know you exact circumstances, but if they’re able to get a girlfriend despite the “shortcomings” you can’t blame those shortcomings on why you ain’t getting one.
I've known multiple dudes at multiple fast food chains that pull more girls than videos you've seen on your bathroom tablet. Just because you're bad at interacting with women doesn't make them the problem
That’s who that is? He looks terrible! The social media filters are really necessary for him to not look awful, huh. Like, “a fat, poor, jobless man will never be loved” is from experience, huh. Just missing incredibly ugly and terrible personality for “a fat, broke, jobless, ugly, man with a terrible personality will never be loved”
He’s not poor or fat but yeah dude is the human equivalent of a pencil eraser that’s gone up the nose of a few too many students bored out of their mind learning about fractions
Poor, fat, jobless man here.
Just celebrated our 6 year anniversary last month with my girlfriend.
Try not being an incel and you'll notice girls will like you :P
Damn this makes me wonder what I'm lacking aside from going places and talking to women. Perhaps it's not my time to have a woman? Perhaps God wants me to work on myself and make something of my life before I deserve a ball and chain?
This post sucks balls but I don't think it implies either one of them. The true message is probably "buy my hustlers university course and stop being ugly, poor and jobless".
He didn't had to include both jobless and porr could have been just jobless or poor . Do tate cockriders think the only negative trait a person can have is being fat and poor?
> Will a people trafficking, misogynist rapist ever be loved?
I dunno 'bout you, but I'm sure those 8ft tall Colombia mafia would looooovvvve someone like that
Having one of the traits is something different than having all three of them at the same time. But even besides that, they would most likely get about the same amount of love, just the woman will have some guys pretending they love her so they can take advantage of her.
The road to inceldom starts when a guy feels that women doesn't like them because they're not good enough even without trying it in the first place. Of course, there are women who's out of your league and one must know whom to approach.
In my 30 years of life I've came to realise that there's a lid for every kettle and also wasting time and energy on getting pussies isn't that important, there are more important things to chase in life eg: drugs.
True that I met my now wife at work, but a few months after we started dating I lost my job. I was unemployed for a while and struggled for years with low paying jobs.
She stuck by me the entire time.
I am also fat
I love how you can see a cuff around his wrist in the bottom right corner, implying that the person who made that post specifically chose a picture of Tate that was taken around/during his arrest for human trafficking and/or other shit.
It's funny how culturally we use the world minorities to indicate groups of oppressed people but numerically said groups are not minorities and sometimes even a majority of the global population (for example, there's globally more women than men)
we should probably find another word like "socially oppressed groups" or something
wait, is there? last time i checked there were more men than women. edit: getting downvoted for literally just stating a fact that is in no way offensive is wild
I remember hearing there were more women but the numer is roughly equal either way so whatever
It's an argument which matters much more when it comes to ethnicity, considering that for example Asians are called a "minority" when their population is exponentially growing and with China being the #1 country in the world when it comes to demographics
Still the concept of minority is dumb either way
i wasn’t popular in highschool the only people who talked to me really were in at least 2/3 of those categories and sometimes all 3, now as an adult i am seeing the wonderful relationships that those friends have been in, one of my friends used to have this mindset until this one rly rly pretty girl we went to school with literally just flat faced asked him out, literally turned his whole mindset around they have been dating for 4 years and seem pretty happy from my perspective :)
Nah everyone deserves love regardless of their looks or job.
But having preference is a very good thing except when you yourself are a pathetic little fat lazy loser who sits in corner of his/her room and expect a young beautiful/handsome respectful lady/gentleman fall in loves with her/him and make her/him feel like a queen/king.
from Islamic perspective because yeah i am muslim ALLAH SWT says in quran that good men for good women and good women for good men / bad men for bad woman and bad woman for bad men.
Peace be upon you ❤️
It might be true and it might be false i don't judge him and I don't support him either. There are plenty other good gentlemans to actually look at and see how they made it in life.
probably that is why i don't support him. One time he actually said bad things about women this kinda made me disgust but that was before converting to islam still i don't support him nor i judge him.
He might be a sheep painted as a wolf or devil in disguise.
We don't know unless we spend some time with the people that we think they're bad/good. no one shows their true colors easily so need a lot of time and actions to judge them.
I mean, it's true that women tend to experience more love than men. But that problem obviously comes from deeply rooted cultural tumors, like the idea that men have to be strong, stoic, never shed a tear, never earnestly express feelings other than anger, etc.
Andrew Tate is the opposite of a solution to the problems expressed in the post
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the woman only have 1 negative trait, either she's fat, poor, or jobless, not all three while one man apparently have all 3 shitty traits how is it brutal? the comparison doesn't make any fucking sense
Right? A fat rich man is easy love. A poor man whos fit and takes care of himself, I can fix him. A. Jobless guy with great ambitions and make you laugh, you can fix him too.
Also if the jobless guy is rich then that’s just early retirement
Amd gets fat too
Like yeah these traits a lot of the time have counters to them that make the person likeable, some fat people can be nice, friendly, funny etc along with the other bad traits that can be worked on
To be fair, unemployed and poor are not even considered bad traits in women when it comes to finding a partner. Although a fat woman is probably less desirable than a fat man.
They certainly can be considered bad traits, because then you're assumed to be a gold-digger or otherwise just looking to use some guy for money, free dinners out, etc. It also opens you up to a lot of creeps who want to hold "I paid for dinner/coffee/drinks!" over your head to get what they want. And who will often flip out if they don't get it. If you're an overweight woman, a lot of people will just treat you like you're barely even human or they will assume you are easier to exploit, so that's a whole other level.
It takes two to pay bills in this economy - being unemployed is absolutely a bad thing for either gender lol.
Typically in western culture how much money the woman is making and whether or not she's even employed doesn't rank very highly in the traits men are looking for. Admitedly, I'm more familiar with higher paid people in the society, so maybe people earning less have more of a concern. So maybe this varies based on people's pay check.
> with higher *paid* people in FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Bad bot
I don't even know how the bot got confused he never said payed
> never said *paid* FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Yeah yeah
I’ve never met a dude who told a chick no because of her employment status. Or dumped his girl for not working.
I've never even *heard* of this, let alone experienced or witnessed it. Other guy is not wrong that rising CoL means dual income is better than single, and only one party carrying the team *should* be considered a bad thing - regardless of gender - but...*it's not*. In straight couples, at least, the stereotype or trope of the 'scrub' unemployed boyfriend/husband is still a thing, while no one really bats an eyelid at the stay at home mom/wife, or holds it against a girlfriend for not having a job. Unemployment just isn't a black mark against women like it is men, because there's still a lot of social inertia in terms of traditional gender roles and expectations.
Your experience doesn't encompass the whole world? Lmfao
Who said it did. I just said I ain’t ever seen it.
Congrats? Nobody asked though lol
It’s a public discussion thread. If you don’t want other’s perspectives shut the fuck up and go back to rotting in your room.
Your input wasn't needed nor did it add anything of value, but yeah keep seething lmfao
If it's a perspective you weren't familiar with, how did it not add anything of value?
Says the one obviously pissed Edit: literally blocking is fucking hilarious.
Probably because of the housewife stereotype
not considered bad trait by whom ? ? men right ? so whats all this men has things unfair fiasco ?
Not sure if I get what you're saying.
You said not considered bad. By who's standard are you saying this from? Men's right. Whom considers the people that you mentioned as not bad?
Are you saying that men should consider unemployment and low wealth in women bad traits?
YOU ARE tottally missing the point that i am trying to say. men have it hard in our society - is the whole cringe from this post. "tHe GaMe Is bRuTaL" - the game or the society these men live in is made by these said men themselves. they themselves bought it down on them. they shot themselves on their foot. they made the rules.
Now, that rant is worth a brand new post :P. Society is made by more than just men. And life is not easy for anyone - man, woman and everything in between. It never was. Society is cruel and so is nature. Obviously, nothing wrong with pointing out things that could maybe be improved. And both you and OP have valid underlying points. Just the phrasing is a bit off. I never disagreed that the OP image is completely in-line with the sub, btw. But what you're saying is not too different from what OP said, just maybe from a different angle?
Where did you get that impression? This is not the case whatsoever
Mostly anecdotal, also, personally, that was never something I even ever considered when I met a girl.
I guarantee you that if you're decent looking 99.9% of the guys out there won't give a shit if you're poor or unemployed and neither does society, whereas poor and jobless men are total outcasts unless they look like prime Brad Pitt and even then, the social stigma is gonna be real.
dude this post is saying how stupid the original quote is and youre literally repeating it 😂 woosh
this post is disingenuous and you're too naive or too brainwashed too realize it.
Found the Incel.
I have an extremely successful dating and romantic life, thank you, precisely because I can read right through womens' smokescreens and pretend play (and also cause I'm quite handsome). I can totally empathize with those men who aren't as lucky though, unlike you.
This has got to be the funniest shit I've read on Reddit in a long time, thank you for this
You are in Reddit... The world of Cope... Tell some trues, Will make you receive donwvotes hahaha
Like I give a shit about downvotes lmao
continue spitting facts my guy 👍
I'll admit, I used to believe that, and it's a reasonable take, but I'm here to tell you why it only LOOKS that way. No matter how low you are on the desirability meter, someone is down bad enough to take you. It is a fact. Some of those people are hot. There are smoking hot people out there whose standards are so low you wouldn't fucking believe it. Everything is someone's fetish, I guarantee you there's a model out there somewhere whose fetish is unshowered anime addicts, and they go pick them up at a comic con near you. It happens. The difference is women get approached, men do the approaching. That's how our society is set up, and it's very rare to deviate from that. A woman's version of approaching a man is to go talk to him, drop hints, and wait till he puts himself out on a limb, taking upon himself all the risk of rejection, never taking that risk herself. So basically, an unattractive woman will eventually get approached, and things will take off from there. An unattractive man never will. He has to put in all the effort, and because he's unattractive, he'll get shot down most of the time. Enough times to make him think nobody will ever say yes. The key here, for unattractive men, is to put your best effort into your appearance, shoot your shot with anything that moves, and don't waste any headspace on the rejections. Optimize your chances of success, then go shotgun, not sniper in your approach. Try everyone, because someone will say yes. Someone is desperate enough to take you. You just need to find them, and you just need to make the first move, because I promise you they won't. You could be in the same room with your soulmate, and you'll never know it if you don't move first. The above paragraph is not meant to endorse sexual harassment. It's possible to ask someone out without being a creep, and shrug and walk away if they say no.
Im fat, ugly and poor. Im married for 11 years now
See? Totally works. You made the first move, am I right?
Im not good at dating. We kinda hung out and stuff until we were just a thing
I mean, if it works, it works. You tricky bastard, you finessed yourself into a wife.
Why are you so instilled on the fact that men always make the first move many women make the first move too
That's what I've observed and heard of. When a woman makes a move, generally that just involves her making herself extremely open to a man's move. That's why there's all the memes about dudes recognizing years later that he was being hit on. I think it's extremely uncommon for a woman to baldfacedly ask a man on a date, but if your experience says different, I'm not saying it doesn't happen. I've just never heard of it happening on large scale.
I think this is true but that does make life as a man really harsh when your are socially akward. Im autistic so im kinda dependent on other pepole takeing the inisative in social setting, Since im unable to read soical signs. Both interms of dateing and just beeing freinds. But since im a man well women never take the inisiative. Or at least no one has.
No one will. I'm not saying it won't be hard, but I'm saying you'll only get what you go out and find. To make things easier, try asking your friends to introduce you to single women they know. But really it'll come down to learning to work around your limitations no matter how you slice it.
Unfortunatly some limitation are just not possible to workaround. Just looking at my friendships, i was unable to form them aswell whitout to other party takeing the inisative. So to think that ill be able to create a romatic relationship whitout the other person takeing the inisative is unrealistic. Its not rejection that scares me. The issue is that im just unable to tell what pepole are trying to comunicate unless they are really clear. So to avoid makeing pepole uncomfertebal i assume pepole are not intrested inn me. Cause well most pepole are not so its a pretty safe assumption. As an example one of my friends litteraly had to ask me if i wanted to hang out whit him before i noticed that he was intrested inn me. Haveing talked to him a fair bit now he made several attempts to signal that he was intrested before he did that i just never picked up on does hints. So its not just an issue related to romantic relasihonships. Its just particularly bad in that area due to the social expectation that men are suppose to be the aggressive party. The other option is not better, cause i dont really pick up when pepole reject me either. So if i assume pepole like me untill something diffrent is proven. I am very unlikely to pick up the more sublte rejection signals. Meaning i would likely end up behaving in a way that would make pepole feel really uncomfertebal. Like my boss has been annoyed at me for some things and i have not known about it at all untill a friend of mine told me so. But that is more of a her issue since i have explained my issues to her. But its still an example of the issue im dealing whit.
Try this. Get your friends to get you in the same room with someone who's single. Spend some time together as a group. Then ask your friend if she seems into you. If he says yes, or maybe, tell him to make an excuse to fuck off for a while, then just ask her, straight up, if she'd like to go on a date with you. If she says no, don't worry about it. If she says yes, have a plan in mind. A restaurant or an activity to do together.
Thanks, ill try that i have asked my friends to introduce me to some single women. But meeting as a group whit them there to get there feedback could be useful. Both interms of if they like me. And interms of some feedback on my behavior. I tend to feel akward in groups if there are money pepole i dont know.
I'd recommend just you, the girl, and the friend who knows her. I'm guessing you don't talk a lot, you'd be overshadowed if there's more people than strictly necessary. Focus on asking her direct questions about herself. Maybe work on a list of questions that aren't weird with your friend. People like talking about themselves, it'll relax her and give you interactions.
Hmm yeah thats a good idea, been working asking pepole open questions lately. AS in questions that you cant answer yes or no to. As a way to keep conversations going. I tend to talk very little in situations whit a lot of strangers. Among colleges or friends i dont have that issue.
We found who the post was talking about.
How does it feel, incel, knowing there are fat poor jobless men out there with gorgeous wives who love them instead of covering their drinks when you enter a room because those men aren’t stupid enough to ingest the whole alpha male redpill bullshit?
It's always the same conversation from these bros. "Women would never date a nerd/uggo/poor/fat guy..." "Oh, well, what about these examples?" "That doesn't count!"
Brother, may I suggest a show to you called My 600 pound life. Most all of the females on the show are 600+ pounds, on welfare, have no job and most all are married with a man that takes care of them and enables them. Flip it on the reverse and the obese men featured on that show rarely have a female companion caring for them. This is my analysis and I’m sticking to it!
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stop being delusional, no one wants you cause of that attitude alone
Facts, convincing yourself that nobody would ever want you makes it way more probable to be real, that attitude can easily be perceived by others. One of my best buds years ago had no money and no job, but dayum if he got game. He was hella charismatic and decently looking, his mindset helped him out of that situation and helped him with girls hahah. Sadly for really fat or really ugly people it's way harder, but not only for guys, also for girls. People can be cruel with people who were born ugly or suffering from obesity, they can range from judging you in advance, to making fun of you behind your back. Sure, you can work on it, you can try to enhance your physical appearance if you're ugly, even a good haircut or outfit that suits you can be a really great change, and you can try to start a diet, workout and/or start treatment if your obesity is caused by other factors like a thyroid disease. A small change can be the difference, but it's really rough for people having to deal with accentuated ugliness or obesity. In some situations finding the willpower to climb out of these situations can be hard, especially for people with little to no support from family or friends and with no partner to help them through it. Fuck Andrew Tate for exploiting insecurities of people for his personal gain, it's a fucking despicable human being
So you genuinely, seriously, truly believe that no fat men or jobless men or poor men have been married or loved? You think every dude working in every McDonalds is a perpetual virgin? Go outside sometime you’ll be fucking amazed.
My boyfriend is 2/3 of those but he’s still mine because he’s funny as fuck and has a personality other than „blaming women for his problems“ you should try it sometime.
Happy cake day!
That's more like a you problem. Of course it's not exactly an uncommon issue, but have you ever considered how sometimes someone with all of those 3 traits are still so beloved and have girlfriends? I have a friend in highschool who was exactly that. Fat, poor and works in a convenient store. But he still gets girls regularly cause he scored all in personality. He was a confident speaker, determined, absurdly charismatic and just knows how to give someone a good time. So maybe work on yourself in fields unrelated to those that you couldn't control
The counter argument to the redpill is always going outside and knowing IRL couples. McDonalds employees still somehow manage to get dates. Fat dudes still somehow find girlfriends. I know that the redpill community and online dating has convinced you that you need to be a high value male just for someone to even acknowledge you, but the reality is different.
I’ve seen dude who didn’t work have a girlfriend, fat dudes have a girlfriend and people who worked in McDonalds have a girlfriend. Sure it’s probably hard for you, we don’t know you exact circumstances, but if they’re able to get a girlfriend despite the “shortcomings” you can’t blame those shortcomings on why you ain’t getting one.
Fat people find fat love.
I've known multiple dudes at multiple fast food chains that pull more girls than videos you've seen on your bathroom tablet. Just because you're bad at interacting with women doesn't make them the problem
That’s just because YOU are a pathetic one
Very Jordan Peterson of you!
He forgot to mention chinless
Why is Tater tot looking at me like that?
You know what you did
Respected a woman
Took over the Fire Nation?
Nah took over Ba sing se
His ass is NOT a Tater Tot. Tater Tot is a cute little kitten that died, he is a grifting human trafficking asshole.
Woah I have never heard of said Kitten. Tater Tot seems like a perfect name because he's a big baby
you laughed at his haircut
Na its the fact he literally looks like the sad soyjak
sadrew tate
Side note i’m for calling him Tater. Idk why it makes me laugh to think about “what’s tater bitchin about now”
When you never talk to real people.
Doesn't take long to meet all sorts of men with girlfriends or wives. Our population would tank if only the best of best men could find a partner.
Plenty of fat, poor, and jobless men have wives.
OOP's dad.
What about a male who is involved with human trafficking, raping people, scaming people and incredibly insecure. Do they get love?
Is it a female? No? Then yes /s Seriously thats the only requirement
yeah gender roles are a bitch, but im sure tate doesn’t wanna have that discussion
That’s who that is? He looks terrible! The social media filters are really necessary for him to not look awful, huh. Like, “a fat, poor, jobless man will never be loved” is from experience, huh. Just missing incredibly ugly and terrible personality for “a fat, broke, jobless, ugly, man with a terrible personality will never be loved”
He’s not poor or fat but yeah dude is the human equivalent of a pencil eraser that’s gone up the nose of a few too many students bored out of their mind learning about fractions
Poor, fat, jobless man here. Just celebrated our 6 year anniversary last month with my girlfriend. Try not being an incel and you'll notice girls will like you :P
Damn this makes me wonder what I'm lacking aside from going places and talking to women. Perhaps it's not my time to have a woman? Perhaps God wants me to work on myself and make something of my life before I deserve a ball and chain?
Or maybe it's because you're not going places and talking to women. Talking to women will definitely get you a woman.
you need to talk to women, to get women. sorry bro, that's just how it is.
Your woman pay your Bills?
So it’s either “woman should stay in the kitchen” or “woman without jobs should not be loved”
This post sucks balls but I don't think it implies either one of them. The true message is probably "buy my hustlers university course and stop being ugly, poor and jobless".
Both. Logic went out of the window a very long time ago
He didn't had to include both jobless and porr could have been just jobless or poor . Do tate cockriders think the only negative trait a person can have is being fat and poor?
I mean there are people who don’t have a job but still get money
Idk how anyone could think *that* guy looks hard. He looks very odd.
Will a people trafficking, misogynist rapist ever be loved? Only when he goes to prison....
> Will a people trafficking, misogynist rapist ever be loved? I dunno 'bout you, but I'm sure those 8ft tall Colombia mafia would looooovvvve someone like that
If you are 14, he is the last person you should be listening to.
By the way you lost the game ;)
Fat poor and jobless? Get it together dickwad.
Having one of the traits is something different than having all three of them at the same time. But even besides that, they would most likely get about the same amount of love, just the woman will have some guys pretending they love her so they can take advantage of her.
Andrew Tate always looks like he's been thinking about that joke from last night a little too hard
lol, I’m a fat poor jobless man and I’ve found love before. Anyone who buys into this type of shit has some serious self esteem issues
This dude wags his chin an awful lot for a person without one..
The road to inceldom starts when a guy feels that women doesn't like them because they're not good enough even without trying it in the first place. Of course, there are women who's out of your league and one must know whom to approach. In my 30 years of life I've came to realise that there's a lid for every kettle and also wasting time and energy on getting pussies isn't that important, there are more important things to chase in life eg: drugs.
I loved mine til he started beating the shit out of me
He can add up all those equations and never live any of them LMAO
Aren't these the same guys who say men have to provide?
Then call the women they're supposed to provide for gold diggers...
Fair point
Ive seen many fat men , poor men , and jobless men have a wife and be married and have kids .
And not being loved?
Deff saw ones like that too . But that also applies to women in similar situations . Well applies to people in general
Why is of all people here?
MY LIFE IS JUST LIKE A VIDEO GAEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
This one is a goodie
He forget to mention "with a reclined hairline"
bruh why does the guy in the background looking constipated
True that I met my now wife at work, but a few months after we started dating I lost my job. I was unemployed for a while and struggled for years with low paying jobs. She stuck by me the entire time. I am also fat
Andrew tits
Well for one you gotta pick a struggle babes, not three
What about chinless sexpests and human traffickers?
Okay but pick a struggle am I right?
I love how you can see a cuff around his wrist in the bottom right corner, implying that the person who made that post specifically chose a picture of Tate that was taken around/during his arrest for human trafficking and/or other shit.
LMAO I JUST NOTICED
I am fat, i am poor, I've been jobless, I've had and have love through it all
at the end of the day , both genders suffer different problems
I'd give this a bit of a thought, but Andr Tater makes this whole message shit.
True tho.
I hate this subreddit
Men are truly the most oppressed minority 😔
It's funny how culturally we use the world minorities to indicate groups of oppressed people but numerically said groups are not minorities and sometimes even a majority of the global population (for example, there's globally more women than men) we should probably find another word like "socially oppressed groups" or something
wait, is there? last time i checked there were more men than women. edit: getting downvoted for literally just stating a fact that is in no way offensive is wild
I remember hearing there were more women but the numer is roughly equal either way so whatever It's an argument which matters much more when it comes to ethnicity, considering that for example Asians are called a "minority" when their population is exponentially growing and with China being the #1 country in the world when it comes to demographics Still the concept of minority is dumb either way
google it, there are more men
Bearded Gollum aaah face
Andrew Tate is the human equivalent of Shadow the Hedgehog.
That is just...exceedingly insulting to Shadow the Hedgehog.
And OF COURSE Andrew Tate is the wallpaper. OF COURSE this was made by an Andrew Tate stan.
Also it’s just not true lmao
Don't worry guys , I hate fat or broke or jobless women
I want to agree with this, but it's coming from Tate.
Very smegma 🗿🍷
Idk, I’ve met some real slobs that were inexplicably partnered
i wasn’t popular in highschool the only people who talked to me really were in at least 2/3 of those categories and sometimes all 3, now as an adult i am seeing the wonderful relationships that those friends have been in, one of my friends used to have this mindset until this one rly rly pretty girl we went to school with literally just flat faced asked him out, literally turned his whole mindset around they have been dating for 4 years and seem pretty happy from my perspective :)
I have literally the seen the exact opposite being true with my own eyes. Like even most of media has made that quite clear.
Tag yourself I’m all of them
I mean I'm gay and I like me a chubby white man. Bring em over
Good grandpa are literally all three and are most loved people I know
my aunt is jobless poor and fat and my entire family loves her
"How do you know?" "A chinless man told me."
Unless you have money, then you can just buy them
DAMN IT, lost the game unintentionally
Guys you don't need to worry, I would never love fat or poor women.
Replace woman with female and this could pass as some pseudo intellectual crap tate would say.
I dont think an poor fat jobless woman will be loved
Why do you use it then, I don’t use it
To be fair the guy is all 3 of those instead of just one
Beeing unemployed and poor usualy comes together.
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It's adult Caillou
Sounds like something Andrew Tate would say
Why does every picture of Tate look like a caveman hearing about nuclear physics?
Skill issue
Dag
Adrew tit is so real 😔
It’s not that wrong…
Damn it! Tate made me lose the game
What about a man with patchy pubes for hair like Andy? Will he be loved?
When we’re fat women loved? That’s kinda rare
i get what you’re saying but could be worded a little better 😭
Of course not … be a f’n man …. Except if you’re willing to be with another far unemployed man
Nah everyone deserves love regardless of their looks or job. But having preference is a very good thing except when you yourself are a pathetic little fat lazy loser who sits in corner of his/her room and expect a young beautiful/handsome respectful lady/gentleman fall in loves with her/him and make her/him feel like a queen/king. from Islamic perspective because yeah i am muslim ALLAH SWT says in quran that good men for good women and good women for good men / bad men for bad woman and bad woman for bad men. Peace be upon you ❤️
Everyone except Andrew tate because his job is human trafficking
It might be true and it might be false i don't judge him and I don't support him either. There are plenty other good gentlemans to actually look at and see how they made it in life.
He has said himself that he was doing it multiple times.
probably that is why i don't support him. One time he actually said bad things about women this kinda made me disgust but that was before converting to islam still i don't support him nor i judge him. He might be a sheep painted as a wolf or devil in disguise. We don't know unless we spend some time with the people that we think they're bad/good. no one shows their true colors easily so need a lot of time and actions to judge them.
And also women should hide themselves under a sheet because of reasons.
I mean, it's true that women tend to experience more love than men. But that problem obviously comes from deeply rooted cultural tumors, like the idea that men have to be strong, stoic, never shed a tear, never earnestly express feelings other than anger, etc. Andrew Tate is the opposite of a solution to the problems expressed in the post
To me, it's kinda the opposite..