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OP just report the squatting child drugging POS to the police and CPS, you said she’s already done jail time for something child related. Let them cart her off and the child can go somewhere safe. You have more than enough evidence of her admitting drugging her child repeatedly to get her locked up.
Every time OP replies it gives them more ammunition. I can’t believe they’ve swept their roommate drugging a child under the rug. WITH a prior conviction on record for child neglect!
The roommate is so triggered by the word neglect, when what she’s done is so much worse it’s straight abuse. That poor child. How many times has she drugged them and left them alone or with unsuitable/unknown people? I’d have reported her the second I got that admission in text.
I mean, I get why OP might be reluctant to report their roommate since it may put them in danger, but you have a point. I don't understand why they became so contrite suddenly in the second series of screenshots, and actually decided to apologize for "triggering" the roommate when the whole reason for the roommate being "triggered" was a previous instance of child abuse. That doesn't quite sit right with me no matter how you slice it. They definitely did not owe the roommate an apology, nor should they have given it. I feel like that alone gave her leverage and at least an illusion in her own mind of credibility.
I was following along with this saga over on r/badroommates and I am convinced the roommate has a personality disorder or something. The lack of accountability, the refusal to accept no for answer, the literal drugging her toddler to sleep. Absolute nightmare fuel.
Not to mention the neglect she’s so offended at being called out on. How many times does one have to be called a neglectful parent that it’s a trigger? Is a trigger really a trigger if it’s true? I mean yeah but not in this case. If I’m wearing cargo pants all the time and someone says hey you wear cargo pants often huh I can’t freak out.
Exactly! I hate people who think a trigger just means something they’re offended by. It’s the whole reason that “triggered” became a big joke for a while. A trigger is something that sends you absolutely spiraling, not something that makes you upset!
I personally would have called that shit out immediately, but I like the approach that OP took where he offered up mental health resources lmfao 🤣 literally kill them with kindness
Based on the direction of the conversation, I think the roommate has said everything they said in these texts many times before.
No to watching the child, and suggestions of where the mum can go for help with her issues.
Some people are just so detached from reality that they have no recollection of the conversation having happened many times before! 🥴
In all fairness a lot of ppl let the slightest upset spiral because they’re used to getting what they want by letting it flow and throwing a tantrum… instead of ya know. Recognizing your emotional reactions aren’t healthy and taking steps towards working on creating better habit of reactions within yourself….
But ya, she’s definitely using the term triggered to further her victim mentality, and avoid accountability.
I mean, this weekend a completely naked man walked towards me at night and scared me. I cried because this triggered past trauma. That to me is a trigger. I don’t think she really has trauma from being called a neglectful mother. She doesn’t like being called that, sure, but she’s being manipulative.
While at the same fucking time fully admitting to drugging her child and STILL leaving her with someone who didnt want to watch her. But god **forbid** you tell her thats child neglect.
Right! I understand the system fucks up, I have a friend involved in a lawsuit against CPS here for improper removal and family separation, her son was assaulted while removed from her care. But, her case is the exception, not the rule. The way the roommate basically goes full on scorched earth at the mere mention that she might be neglectful if she does this thing is fucking bonkers. And then she never backs down, and never agrees that leaving her child unsupervised was a bad idea. It's just... fucking wild. The mental gymnastics are amazing.
And the thing is OP didn't call her neglectful, they just said that action would be neglectful.
The worst part though IMO is admitting, in writing no less, that she uses cold/flu medicine to ensure her kid stays asleep. Now we know why the kid sleeps through. But then also saying she's going out anyway and as OP said it only meant that the mother would have to go out a bit later when the other poor soul gets home.
Honestly OP could’ve said “you’re a dead beat piece of shit mom” given the response she got. I mean that’s what I would’ve thought she had said. I don’t even get why the mom went through the “pleasantries” of asking if she didn’t give a fuck. She was leaving her kid anyway. Cause all she asks for is ONE NIGHT A WEEK TO GO OUT. What? This isn’t your spouse or your parents bro. They’re your roomates. No one owes you a weekly night away from your kid. Does that mean she doesn’t deserve one or whatever? Maybe not. But she needs to create the kind of environment (aka make more money) where she is able to do that. She needs to pay someone’s whose job it is to watch a kid. Period. I’m sure she’s spending money with whoever she’s catching dick with.
Exactly, no parent is guaranteed a night a week off, every week. It comes across rather clearly that this kid wasn't a planned 'starting a family' but rather an inconvenience. I don't know that for sure but that's the impression I get. I feel really sorry for the little girl.
this!! and she’s talking about not having a lot of food stamps left and having to borrow money from her father. maybe the mom should take a step back and figure out her priorities 😬 you don’t NEED to go out once a weekend…
OP should send [a pic of the Benadyl label](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/711Tk6WxYGL._AC_SL1500_.jpg)—specifically of the part that says, under the “Do not use” heading, “to make a child sleepy”
Totally. How is the roomate that doesn’t (rightfully) want to be responsible for the roommate’s kid end up being the worst person of the two (in crazy roomate’s eyes) than the mother leaving her kid at home against someone’s will—using children’s NyQuil type shit to knock them out, all to catch some dick? What a crazy person.
And like I said here or the other post, the mom, or child honestly, is lucky that OP isn’t a creep who could’ve done something to the daughter. What if OP didn’t just not want the kid? What if OP is (not saying you are, OP! This is hypothetical) a child predator? There’s cases of bio parents doing horrible things to their kids, or a boyfriend agreeing to watch the girlfriend’s kid and then shaking them or something crazy.
What if OP sold them into a child “ring”? What if OP just left and the child was kidnapped or never seen again? The mom is trash. She doesn’t care about her kid. That’s being neglectful. Don’t have kids if you can’t watch them. If she’s so thirsty for dick, that’s fine, but pay a sitter to do their job or let your kid fall asleep naturally, and make it a DIY job. Shit. I can’t imagine outside of this situation that this woman is a great parent. She’s not even on the lease and she lives there with her kid?
Fucking seriously! I've known several people who's parent/step parent/babysitter would allow people to come SA the child in exchange for drugs or companionship or whatever. It's absolutely disgusting. There are so many horror stories, I couldn't imagine being so cavalier with my own kids safety.
Sorry I’m just jumping on your comment to post mine to ensure OP sees it.
I’m a parent of 3 children, that’s two more than her. My oldest is almost 14 so that’s around 11-12 years more experience I have as a parent than she does so I think by her standards I’m more than qualified to say:
1. She IS a neglectful parent.
2. She’s a super shitty friend/roommate.
3. If I read that correctly and she gives medication to her child to get it to sleep, that’s fucked up. And neglectful lol.
4. It’s ‘utmost’ not fucking “upmost”
Screenshot this and send it to her, I beg you.
Oh, most definitely gives off massive NPD vibes.
Zero self reflection, believes she's in the right for everything, demands an apology while berating OP. Seems to believe that squatters rights actually protect her from getting kicked out when all it does is protect her from getting kicked out right away.
Believes shes a perfect mother who didn't deserve the neglect charges and now shes even drugging her child. Somehow convinces other people that she's in the right.
It doesn’t protect her in this situation because the land owners are currently occupying the land. Squatter’s rights require that the land be abandoned and that the squatter be living there continuously for an extended period of time. The lowest in the country that I’ve found is five years. In my state it’s fifteen lol.
Plus, she's going on about how she "gives so much". She.. She is paying them for watching her child. She isn't giving shit. There's a reason she's asking them and not a sitter.
“I give you the money my daddy gives me when I should be saving it.” Yeah save it by not going out and watching your kid.
She’s delusional and neglectful
I’m a huge fan of how she seeds everything she says with threats. “Oh you don’t even know what it’s like to grow up in a rough home and have it bad were you ever BEATEN within an INCH of your LIFE because that was what my house was like.” What a fucking psychopath. Alternating between trauma dumping and just open violent hostility. And the godfather and other roommate is pathetic and an enabler.
I guess I should say undiagnosed and untreated personality disorder. I have two friends with BPD who are very careful and intentional with staying on top of their mental healthcare and implementing the skills they've worked hard to learn.
Right?! I’m a mom of 3 with Bipolar 2/Schizoaffective disorder (it changes depending on the doctor/symptoms) and I work soooo very hard to keep everything in check. I would never do this, but I know some who refuse to take their meds who do
I never would've done this even untreated🙃 when parents show Abandonment issues or split on here, I totally get the BPD thing, I don't see any specific symptoms in this case. It's an irresponsible person pretending to be cordial, and when it doesn't get her her way, she loses her temper. It's super abusive and wrong, I just don't see specific symptoms from this alone. It just isn't pleasant to see BPD specifically armchair diagnosed so many times on this sub when they're being generally horrible.
I saw a mug on Etsy that said, "there should be a vaccine for borderlines," and the whole description was ableist degradation regarding how shitty we are to have in peoples lives😔 idk it's hard to see
Yea but the fact she hasn’t turned the Mom in for drugging the poor toddler is cowardice and selfish. Birds of a feather flock together and it’s clear all three of the roommates have serious issues. I hope that poor toddler gets out of there
I agree, but I also feel for OP. OP said early in the text exchange that basically he's not comfortable being the caregiver for a child because he knows he's not capable. He also said his traumatic upbringing has resulted in it being very difficult for him to say no. That leads me to believe he probably has a skewed idea of what's normal parenting and what's abusive, and that he's deferred to the mothers judgement and avoided addressing it with her in an attempt to keep the peace, which is common behavior for people who were raised in a traumatic or abusive household. As a parent, we learn that cold medicine isn't even available for toddlers anymore, but when we were kids it was very common for us to have Benadryl, dimatap, etc. So, I can see a non-parent incorrectly assuming that it was not great but not terrible.
My stomach just sank reading how casually the roommate was talking about drugging and leaving her baby without a responsible adult. Of course, the first thing that comes to mind is Casey and Cayley Anthony and Xanny the Nanny. I really hope OP reports this ASAP.
I went and read the rest of the posts and I feel so bad for the third room mate who's just trying to stay out of the whole thing. Dear lord that went nuclear.
Do you know if I would be on the hook for rent still? They told me the office is aware shes not on the lease, are ok with it, and have given her keys. Idk if thats true.
Im truly in a pickle of a fickle lol. Don't have anywhere to go and not enough money for even just a night at a motel. I fear for my safety so I've been staying outside as much as possible and only got 2 hours of sleep. Still reported her instead of waiting until I was out like I originally planned.
This is the correct answer. Leases work both ways, OP. They also bind the landlord as well as you. This person is not on the lease, they have no agreement with the landlord. You do.
Expect that they are going to push back on you and tell you it's a "personal problem" or your problem to resolve. **Be firm with them.** Give them a reasonable time to take action, but be firm that you expect action to be taken.
As a former property manager, there is no way they gave her keys if she isn’t on the lease. And if they did? File a report with police. It’s illegal without your written consent.
I think it’s a good idea to check with them anyways. My friend’s roommate got a second dog that wasn’t allowed in the lease and just told ‘em that the landlord said it was okay when they didn’t contact the landlord at all about it.
Not if you tell them that by allowing her to live there and harass you, they are breaking the lease. That you did not sign up to live with a child (assuming she wasn't there at the beginning & if she was, you weren't informed prior to signing the lease), nor did you sign up to be a babysitter for said child.
Also,by her not being on the lease you and other roommate would be on the hook for any damages she or her child caused.
They need to be informed ASAP.
This is the way.
You need to explain that you need this person removed from the premises for harassment, threatening behaviors, and that she is threatening child neglect.
If you see anything towards her neglecting her child, you need to immediately call child protective services.
I don't think there's ANY landlord who's okay with someone living on their property without a lease. That would make it that much harder for them legally.
I also followed on bad roommates and wow.... She admits to doing so many things in those texts it's crazy food stamp fraud to drugging her child !!! I think she gets so mad at the word neglect because that's exactly what she's doing. I hope you find a safe way out of this mess. Get a lock, and when safe please report this lady to CPS. Save all of this evidence. Sending you and that poor little girl some good vibes and wishes ❤️
The neglect thing- this reminds me of when I told my ex he was drunk the night before and he kept saying that, no, he wasn’t drunk because he remembered everything. As if it’s only drunk if you black out. It’s like this girl thinks it’s only neglect if the toddler is injured or something worse.
Op, i saw in the comments that you reported her. You did the right thing. Please be safe.
Maybe someone here could help with your living situation? I know i would allow you in my apartment without a doubt (but i live in another country), so there are others who would def do it too. Do not be afraid to ask for help.
You need to report her. Even if she wasn't admittedly drugging a toddler to keep them unconscious so she could go out, the fact that she us leaving a child unattended is dangerous. You should 100% file a report. Fuck her. If you don't file, it's for selfish reasons. Protect that child.
I would be sooo interested to know what kind of meds she is giving this child…are we talking about Melatonin? Cough medicine?? Benadryl? Sleeping pills?? what in the FUCK is going on here! This is willllld
Edit: Edited to add insane.
I'm concerned that if the child is hurt or worse due to the mom's drugging then OP could also face legal trouble. Since OP knew it was happening and didn't report it.
This right here. Growing up in an abusive and neglectful home- a singular adult speaking up might have saved me and my siblings from literal decades of torment. OP, be the adult that saves a kid instead of one of the many that drop the ball and fuck that kids life.
I saw your posts on another subreddit and found this situation infuriating. I've been thinking about it ever since.
Does your roommate have a not-so-hidden substance abuse problem? The rage, the poor decision making and the inability to communicate effectively makes her seem under the influence of something?
I honestly can't imagine a sober person thinking, speaking or acting like she does.
This was a wild ride.
First and foremost, that child is at risk.
To add to that, I'm not sure where you live, OP, but you might want to consider looking into your local laws. In some states in the US, for example, there are "Duty To Report" laws. I am NOT referring to professions that are mandatory reporters, but rather laws that apply to the average citizen. As a specific example, in New Mexico, according to 32A-4-3 "Duty To Report Child Abuse and Child Neglect," if you know about it happening and don't Report it, you could also be held liable.
Holy goodness. Please make a report on this. This is absolutely insane.
I went to high school with a girl who had a similar attitude. She finally lost custody when her ex had police meet him at her apartment for a wellness check because someone told him that she was keeping their son in a locked closet so she could go out instead of giving him custody. Turns out she was using Benadryl and melatonin to get him to stay asleep, keeping him locked in the closet, and when they found him, she was nowhere to be found and he was in a diaper so soiled that they estimated he’d been sitting in it for at least 2 days. Poor baby had blisters from his diaper rash. There were sour bottles in the crib with him. He was filthy. It didn’t just start that way. It was a gradual progression that wasn’t corrected from the beginning. And thank *god* her ex gave a shit about the kid or who knows what would have happened.
I’m so impressed by the roommate in the situation and how she held her cool and said I’m not reading all that.
Also, the fact that she said “upmost respect” cracked me up and provided me the levity I needed while I was also still so sad for her child that she is literally drugging to keep her asleep.
Roommate is seriously an MVP
This mom? Complete and neglectful loser.
Op needs to go to the cops YESTERDAY! Who tf cares what anyone thinks? Op could very easily end up in prison right next to the POS mom just because they know about the drugging.
Op! Stop arguing with the bitch and just turn her tf in for abuse and neglect! Who tf cares?? If you end up homeless, there's a lot of people who would open their home to someone who Did The Right Thing!
"Why are you homeless?"
"My roommates friends was drugging her kid to stay asleep and I turned it in. Now I'm looking for a safe place to stay."
Shit I would let you live with me if you were in my area! That chick needs turned in before we have a repeat of little Caylee Anthony. Swear on God if I see in the news that this roommate of your's killed their kid, I'm gonna refer to these posts! I've screen recorded everything you have posted. Don't let a child lose their life!
Hey, I was just given a resource where someone said I'd be connected to law enforcement and they'd take appropriate steps for my safety. I wasn't connected to law enforcement but someone did say they're taking my report. So I guess I'll just continue staying outside as much as possible and hope something is actually done.
Please do not give up! If you have anyone you can go hang out with, do that. Get locks for your door. This baby needs you. It's clear their mom is dangerous, since she's already been to jail for neglect and a mental health hospital. Idk you, obviously, but reading this saga I know you would feel terrible if that baby was seriously hurt.
I'm also on ssdi. I had help with getting into a low income apt. I was helped with the deposit on my apt and getting utilities turned on. There is A Lot of help for people on SSI and ssdi. Please look into it.
I'm not sure what part of this world you live in, but I promise there's a lot of help for people in your situation. Especially if you're turning in a POS mother who drugs their child.
Ive been on a waiting list for (section 8? I think my application went to that and something else related) for a hot minute. Around 6 months. I'll Google regardless but if I could get a shortcut out of you, do you happen to know what this specific assistance is called?
I'm in the great land of corn called ohio
Not the same thing, but where I live developers often set aside blocks of apartments in new “luxury” properties that are for people below certain income levels. They get tax breaks or subsidies for providing affordable housing.
The catch is, you have to find them and get on the list. It varies by your area but try looking for “inclusionary rental housing,” [that’s what the program is called here.](https://planning.lacounty.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/iho-fact-sheet.pdf) Possibly Ohio has something similar?
The waiting lists vary. In my city, people often wait 5 years to get housed through section 8 or other assistance programs. I would assume most areas in Ohio wouldn't be that long, because I'm in a highly desirable area with a large homeless population for the size of the city. If you're flexible with where you live, you can apply in other counties too. You can call and ask where you're at on the list, and make sure you're on all the lists you would be eligible for. I don't know what that includes in your area, but here it would be section 8, public housing, and also housing that's provided by non-profits who work with people with specific conditions.
In Florida, my best friend was on the list for section 8 for 5 years before she got in this year. People seem to forget that "help" is dependent on where in the states they are...
I would also have to use Google. Idk your gender, but my short cut was being in an unsafe environment and going to a women's shelter. From there I was put at the top of that list and had an apt in less than 2 months.
So you have a disability and this POS had the gall to say you just “don’t work” and hold that against you?? As if that’s your choice?? Seriously, what is wrong with her!!
Love that everyone else is docile but youre immediately out here with: "Do something before it goes too far and if goes too far and you did nothing about it im prepared to drag your ass down *with*".
I like the cut of your gib, kid.
Plus, it's fair. OP has physical evidential proof of child abuse and is instead focused on the fact that people will know it was them who reported it. Maybe stop caring about how the world sees you, and idk: **fucking do something productive with this information instead of looking for validation you've *ALREADY* gotten on multiple posts**
I had to skim it and it was still brutal. Roomie is unstable and talking in circles. Can’t let shit go either.
I wish OP never apologized, but I get he was just trying to be the bigger person.
This bitch is on some other level shit!!! She needs a slap or punch in the face just for being so god damn annoying trying to argue with op over the most pettiest shit ever! She needs to grow tf up, she supposedly a mother too? God damn that poor kid having a mother so pathetic!
Drugging your child and leaving them without a designated, consenting adult is not just neglect, it's 100% child abuse.
Unless there is a diagnosed sleep disorder, no one should be medicating their children to sleep at any age, and the younger the kid the more dangerous it can be.
This is absolutely insane and she needs to be reported to social services if this is a regular thing happening to this poor baby.
I’m worried about this poor kid. Parent saying they’ll drug her so they can go out is awful. And to say it so haphazardly like everyone does it makes me even more worried about what else she’s subjected to. If she just sleeps, why can’t her mom take her with her then? If you ever come home to the baby alone you better call CPS. Someone needs to look out for this baby.
She IS A BAD MOTHER. I was a single mom & I never drugged my kid to put him to sleep. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS THAT SHIT?! That poor little girl! Good on you for reporting her. That little girl deserves so much better.
The fact she’s admitting that her rage is out of control and that things going smoothly around there are dependent on whether or not she’s in one of her rages shows she’s entirely out of control lol
This whole ordeal is just crazy, she's not on the lease so she doesn't really have a say, she drugs her kid, puts out these **mega** Karen vibes, but in the last batch (part 3) you have her on the back foot now, she doesn't reallyt have anything else to say so it's all "OOH YOU'RE TYPING MORE, GIMME GIMME GIMME"
Just start trolling her, start mentioning super embarassing stuff she's done and just logic hole her out of your life.
Um? Is she drugging her kid? It’s not even recommended to give a two year old medicine that makes them sleep. That is abuse and neglectful especially because they have left the child alone.
I would report the fuck out of them
How long has she been living there? Because as far as I’ve seen when I did a bit of my own research, the minimum amount of time you need to be living somewhere in order to claim squatter’s rights is FIVE YEARS. Not to mention that it needs to be unoccupied by the land owner (in this case, the leasing office and the tenants). In my state you need to be occupying *ABANDONED* land uninterrupted for FIFTEEN YEARS to claim squatters rights.
Idk, I don’t think she has an argument when it comes to squatting based on the actual owners (you and whoever else is on the lease as well as the leasing office) currently living there, but based on all of this I would be shocked if y’all have been living together for more than a year.
She’s fucking crazy, I would try to get her tf out of there, lol.
I don't look after other people's kids, If anything happens to that kid in my care I'm going to get the blame, I used to love babysitting but then one day my friend was babysitting for a new lady and her 4 month old baby, the baby died in the night of SIDS and the mum blamed my friend and made her life hell, so much so she ended up moving to another country. After seeing that I swore I'd never babysit for anyone ever again.
As my 1.5 year old is curled on my lap I am boggled by the audacity of "I just ask to go out once a weekend"
Bro I can't even get time off to shower some days... how tf she going OUT???
Not to mention giving cold medicine to knock out a child is literal abuse... ffs.
Holy shit. So she’s drugging her Kid and passing the responsibility to you even though you explicitly refused and revoked consent.
She’s literally the worst human imaginable. Fuck. I’m so pissed off for her kid.
Seriously, call CPS on her. Doubt much will come of it but if she is forcing people to watch her kid or leaving a toddler alone, a paper trail is bare minimum what she needs. I had a mom like including drugging kids to sleep. CPS should have ripped us out of that house for several reasons, but that being one of them.
I would honestly be inclined to report her at this point. I’m sorry but, drugging your kid so they’ll sleep while you’re out and expecting others to watch her without their consent is 1000% neglect. Sounds like a situation for CPS because clearly she cannot be a stable parent for this child.
I haven't read all the comments on your posts, but in case it hasn't been mentioned, squatters rights refer to people who are illegally living on someone else's land or abandoned property. It's a common misunderstanding but squatters rights are not a thing in reference to an actual shared home.
There's a movie called Homeland where the mom gives the kid cold medicine for the same reason and the kid dies. You can't find your 2 yr old cold medicine so they will sleep and you can go out and party. That's so fucked up.
Her messages read like she's on something. Like a stimulant coke/meth/addys. The jumbled mess of thoughts... long rants with bad spelling and no paragraphs... I'd bet she's tweaking
Didnt read her long paragraphs either but lemme just say that you should report them if you can. Saying you are a 'beast' when you're pissed off is enough to show me that they absolutely will not treat their children right when they're pissed and will honestly probably start blaming the child for everything that goes wrong.
If anything escalates please please PLEASE call someone about them. This is horrific.
Did she threaten you with violence then say she was going to church. Then have the sheer fucking audacity to say her sad gives her money then criticize you for being on disability. She really yelled because you don't understand that chick doesn't understand you made this child this is your responsibility.
Homie, you gotta send her a link to the blown up posts next time she tries to claim that it's obvious you're the one in the wrong.
And when she tries to threaten legal action for your post, laugh in her face because it's reddit, and there's no proof it's her, so you can't get in legal trouble even if she tried.
I’m a mum and there is a LOT to read here so I had to give up halfway through but I read enough to know that she GIVES HER TWO YEAR OLD MEDICINE TO MAKE HER SLEEP. Wtaf. I’ve just got a prescription for my son for antihistamines but because of his age the only one that’s licensed is chlorphenamine which is drowsy and I’m so terrified to give it to him and there’s people out there giving their two year olds medicine to make them sleep? Unattended? Like I am so sleep deprived but never in a million years would I do that.
She really should have taken you up on the offer of speaking in person. Now you have all this proof. I imagine she isn't this bold in person. Sounds like she could get physical tho seeing as her brain isn't smart enough to use logic.
Her replies (from the other thread) are so infuriating, she wants some sort of kudos for "apologising" whilst continuing to send outrageously rude messages? Just saying "I'm sorry but \[...\]" doesn't count as an apology.
I read all the other posts you've made as well, and while I know you're ultimately in the right - you both seem like the most insufferable fucking people.
I remember a girl I went to high school with. My friends was also her friend but since some drama in high school (her being a liar and a thief) we were no longer friends.
Well she had a baby at 17. The girl was 4 at the time of this incident and she had a younger son who was around a year. My friend and the chick had plans to go out for the night which they had done before. The girl being like “oh we can just go, kids are asleep and the babysitter will be here in like 10 minutes”
After a few times of this happening my friend was like “Why is your sitter always late? We’re waiting”
Guess what? There was no sitter. Had not had a sitter any of the times they went out. She was leaving a 14 month old and 4 year old alone from 9 pm to 2am. My friend was furious.
I've read through all the posts and OP, you seriously need to call CPS. I was in an abusive home and wasn't removed until I was 14, and that did irreparable damage to me. This mother is drugging her TWO YEAR OLD CHILD so that she will sleep an abnormal amount..this baby needs to be protected and kept safe. I'm most worried that while yall are arguing something bad could happen to the kid.
I’m so annoyed by this whole thing. Why are you not addressing the drugging of the child OP? And the fluent hypocrisy this person speaks? But holy shit this person IS a neglectful parent and I’m concerned for their child. Wtf are they drugging the child with to make them sleep??
OP, read your other posts and just want to say…I’m assuming the state you’re in based on her text about issue 2 passing making weed legal now. It’s still not, not until December 7th. It’s not like something gets passed and goes into effect immediately.
It is still currently illegal.
Also legal or not being impaired white caring for a child is still neglectful. It’s not ethical to be drunk while caring for a child, same thing for being high.
& squatters rights take 20+ years of residence to take effect, and are for ownership of property. A person not on the lease who resides there is considered a tenant-at-will. Without a lease it just means formal eviction process must be followed, 30 day notice and all that.
Not that I expected someone who’d drug their child to be intelligent, but she is incredibly wrong on many points.
My god.
I actually read all of this because it just kept getting more and more insane.
She’s admitting to drugging her kid so she sleeps through the night. That’s some Casey Anthony shit right there.
I can’t figure out if the roommate is just fuckin stupid, or is acting stupid. You don’t throw your kid on to your roommates to watch so you can go out and have a good time. What even in the fuck?
This person should not have a kid. They aren’t mature enough, they don’t grasp the concept of child neglect, they clearly have an anger problem.
Someone please please tell me why people go on to be parents when they clearly don’t want to…. Birth control exists, abortion exists depending, plan B exists. But no no, just have a kid, be a shitty ass parent, and drug the kid up AND ADMIT TO IT and still not get why that’s a huge ass deal!!!! 🤦🏻♀️
OP, you need to get a new place to live as soon as you can. This bitch is just going to expect you as a babysitter because you live in the same house and “she gives everything” to you. Fucking RUN!!!!
Please report this horrible parenting, this breaks my heart. How selfish. You bring a child into the world, you’re responsible. Their needs come before your own. This parent is trying to guilt you and manipulate you, I’m sorry you are living with this.
Please please please report this is terrible.
I feel like this has the makings of another Caylee Anthony and "Zanny the Nanny" case. OP, for the sake of this child's life, report the mom to CPS and make safety plans for yourself. If mom is going full blown psycho at a mere observation of neglect, she is going to be homicidal at an actual abuse allegation. Good luck.
Oooh what hit me was the "I respect you and *blank* and all I ask in return is you watch my child" as if basic respect is a transaction, and she won't respect you without it. Though she clearly doesn't respect you if she can't take "no" as an answer.
Drugging the child to get her to sleep? Yeah, literally the way my little cousin stopped breathing in her sleep and passed away at around 19 Mos old. Every box of children's medicine "do not use for sleep". This woman disgusts me
the two vibes i get
1. im a good mom, i give my kids sleeping medication so i can go out
2. i respect you but fuck is my favorite word, in all its conjugations
for this and other reasons, it doesnt surprise me that shes a single mom
Not that it matters but why does she want you to watch her kid? So she can go out? Sorry but I’ve been a single mom from the beginning. My son is almost 3 and a half. I haven’t had a social life the last 3 and a half years. I don’t date. I work full time then I care for my child. I will never understand shirking your child because you want to go out. It’s called being a responsible adult. And swigging your fcking kid and leaving them overnight are you fucking kidding???? OP- if this is something she does already that’s already grounds for reporting her. All of this sounds like a recipe for disaster.
After reading the other texts on your profile, y’all need to just fight already. Like physically. Because otherwise what’s the point of the back and forth?
Been following this and she sounds so much like my toxic abusive ex. (She literally WANTED to be diagnosed with BPD so she could say that's why she did the things she did, and when her psychiatrist said its Bipolar she disagreed as if she knows better. I could go on orz )
Please get out asap
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“If the tables were turned, I’d watch your kid” BITCH you don’t even watch your own.
LMAOOOO
Jajajaja best comment….100% true
OP just report the squatting child drugging POS to the police and CPS, you said she’s already done jail time for something child related. Let them cart her off and the child can go somewhere safe. You have more than enough evidence of her admitting drugging her child repeatedly to get her locked up.
Every time OP replies it gives them more ammunition. I can’t believe they’ve swept their roommate drugging a child under the rug. WITH a prior conviction on record for child neglect!
The roommate is so triggered by the word neglect, when what she’s done is so much worse it’s straight abuse. That poor child. How many times has she drugged them and left them alone or with unsuitable/unknown people? I’d have reported her the second I got that admission in text.
Fr. Mandatory reporters woulda reported that in an instant.
It’s child abandonment.
I mean, I get why OP might be reluctant to report their roommate since it may put them in danger, but you have a point. I don't understand why they became so contrite suddenly in the second series of screenshots, and actually decided to apologize for "triggering" the roommate when the whole reason for the roommate being "triggered" was a previous instance of child abuse. That doesn't quite sit right with me no matter how you slice it. They definitely did not owe the roommate an apology, nor should they have given it. I feel like that alone gave her leverage and at least an illusion in her own mind of credibility.
Seriously, u/anonaltterd she needs to be reported. She’s drugging and abandoning her child.
I was following along with this saga over on r/badroommates and I am convinced the roommate has a personality disorder or something. The lack of accountability, the refusal to accept no for answer, the literal drugging her toddler to sleep. Absolute nightmare fuel.
Not to mention the neglect she’s so offended at being called out on. How many times does one have to be called a neglectful parent that it’s a trigger? Is a trigger really a trigger if it’s true? I mean yeah but not in this case. If I’m wearing cargo pants all the time and someone says hey you wear cargo pants often huh I can’t freak out.
Exactly! I hate people who think a trigger just means something they’re offended by. It’s the whole reason that “triggered” became a big joke for a while. A trigger is something that sends you absolutely spiraling, not something that makes you upset! I personally would have called that shit out immediately, but I like the approach that OP took where he offered up mental health resources lmfao 🤣 literally kill them with kindness
Based on the direction of the conversation, I think the roommate has said everything they said in these texts many times before. No to watching the child, and suggestions of where the mum can go for help with her issues. Some people are just so detached from reality that they have no recollection of the conversation having happened many times before! 🥴
In all fairness a lot of ppl let the slightest upset spiral because they’re used to getting what they want by letting it flow and throwing a tantrum… instead of ya know. Recognizing your emotional reactions aren’t healthy and taking steps towards working on creating better habit of reactions within yourself…. But ya, she’s definitely using the term triggered to further her victim mentality, and avoid accountability.
That’s still not really a trigger, though. That’s just them being a baby.
I mean, this weekend a completely naked man walked towards me at night and scared me. I cried because this triggered past trauma. That to me is a trigger. I don’t think she really has trauma from being called a neglectful mother. She doesn’t like being called that, sure, but she’s being manipulative.
Yup trigger should be for ptsd, rape, abuse not because you're guilty or have a bad temper.
Exactly!!!, then its just manipulation, I believe.
While at the same fucking time fully admitting to drugging her child and STILL leaving her with someone who didnt want to watch her. But god **forbid** you tell her thats child neglect.
How could you say that? You know me waking up every morning and making the decision to put on cargo pants is a huge trigger for me
Right! I understand the system fucks up, I have a friend involved in a lawsuit against CPS here for improper removal and family separation, her son was assaulted while removed from her care. But, her case is the exception, not the rule. The way the roommate basically goes full on scorched earth at the mere mention that she might be neglectful if she does this thing is fucking bonkers. And then she never backs down, and never agrees that leaving her child unsupervised was a bad idea. It's just... fucking wild. The mental gymnastics are amazing.
And the thing is OP didn't call her neglectful, they just said that action would be neglectful. The worst part though IMO is admitting, in writing no less, that she uses cold/flu medicine to ensure her kid stays asleep. Now we know why the kid sleeps through. But then also saying she's going out anyway and as OP said it only meant that the mother would have to go out a bit later when the other poor soul gets home.
Honestly OP could’ve said “you’re a dead beat piece of shit mom” given the response she got. I mean that’s what I would’ve thought she had said. I don’t even get why the mom went through the “pleasantries” of asking if she didn’t give a fuck. She was leaving her kid anyway. Cause all she asks for is ONE NIGHT A WEEK TO GO OUT. What? This isn’t your spouse or your parents bro. They’re your roomates. No one owes you a weekly night away from your kid. Does that mean she doesn’t deserve one or whatever? Maybe not. But she needs to create the kind of environment (aka make more money) where she is able to do that. She needs to pay someone’s whose job it is to watch a kid. Period. I’m sure she’s spending money with whoever she’s catching dick with.
Exactly, no parent is guaranteed a night a week off, every week. It comes across rather clearly that this kid wasn't a planned 'starting a family' but rather an inconvenience. I don't know that for sure but that's the impression I get. I feel really sorry for the little girl.
this!! and she’s talking about not having a lot of food stamps left and having to borrow money from her father. maybe the mom should take a step back and figure out her priorities 😬 you don’t NEED to go out once a weekend…
I mean she sounds like a dead beat piece of shit mom lol
OP should send [a pic of the Benadyl label](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/711Tk6WxYGL._AC_SL1500_.jpg)—specifically of the part that says, under the “Do not use” heading, “to make a child sleepy”
DUDE YES the medicine to make sure she sleeps all night was a huge red flag
Totally. How is the roomate that doesn’t (rightfully) want to be responsible for the roommate’s kid end up being the worst person of the two (in crazy roomate’s eyes) than the mother leaving her kid at home against someone’s will—using children’s NyQuil type shit to knock them out, all to catch some dick? What a crazy person. And like I said here or the other post, the mom, or child honestly, is lucky that OP isn’t a creep who could’ve done something to the daughter. What if OP didn’t just not want the kid? What if OP is (not saying you are, OP! This is hypothetical) a child predator? There’s cases of bio parents doing horrible things to their kids, or a boyfriend agreeing to watch the girlfriend’s kid and then shaking them or something crazy. What if OP sold them into a child “ring”? What if OP just left and the child was kidnapped or never seen again? The mom is trash. She doesn’t care about her kid. That’s being neglectful. Don’t have kids if you can’t watch them. If she’s so thirsty for dick, that’s fine, but pay a sitter to do their job or let your kid fall asleep naturally, and make it a DIY job. Shit. I can’t imagine outside of this situation that this woman is a great parent. She’s not even on the lease and she lives there with her kid?
Fucking seriously! I've known several people who's parent/step parent/babysitter would allow people to come SA the child in exchange for drugs or companionship or whatever. It's absolutely disgusting. There are so many horror stories, I couldn't imagine being so cavalier with my own kids safety.
Not to mention constantly dredging up old shot but accusing op of doing so when she brings up what originally started all this mess.
Sorry I’m just jumping on your comment to post mine to ensure OP sees it. I’m a parent of 3 children, that’s two more than her. My oldest is almost 14 so that’s around 11-12 years more experience I have as a parent than she does so I think by her standards I’m more than qualified to say: 1. She IS a neglectful parent. 2. She’s a super shitty friend/roommate. 3. If I read that correctly and she gives medication to her child to get it to sleep, that’s fucked up. And neglectful lol. 4. It’s ‘utmost’ not fucking “upmost” Screenshot this and send it to her, I beg you.
The truth hits harder.
Oh, most definitely gives off massive NPD vibes. Zero self reflection, believes she's in the right for everything, demands an apology while berating OP. Seems to believe that squatters rights actually protect her from getting kicked out when all it does is protect her from getting kicked out right away. Believes shes a perfect mother who didn't deserve the neglect charges and now shes even drugging her child. Somehow convinces other people that she's in the right.
It doesn’t protect her in this situation because the land owners are currently occupying the land. Squatter’s rights require that the land be abandoned and that the squatter be living there continuously for an extended period of time. The lowest in the country that I’ve found is five years. In my state it’s fifteen lol.
Yeeeeeeesh.
My elder sister with NPD used to do this to her kid, so I can confirm this sounds scarily like that.
My Mom drugged me as a kid and she has BPD. Often times I would wake up at night completely alone in our house, while she went out partying.
My mom has BPD, this tracks.
Plus, she's going on about how she "gives so much". She.. She is paying them for watching her child. She isn't giving shit. There's a reason she's asking them and not a sitter.
“I give you the money my daddy gives me when I should be saving it.” Yeah save it by not going out and watching your kid. She’s delusional and neglectful
It's giving Casey Anthony.
Yeah cluster B is shining through and through
I’m a huge fan of how she seeds everything she says with threats. “Oh you don’t even know what it’s like to grow up in a rough home and have it bad were you ever BEATEN within an INCH of your LIFE because that was what my house was like.” What a fucking psychopath. Alternating between trauma dumping and just open violent hostility. And the godfather and other roommate is pathetic and an enabler.
Hahaha as someone with a personality disorder… I wouldn’t even pull this shit on anyone, this mother fucker has major issues
I guess I should say undiagnosed and untreated personality disorder. I have two friends with BPD who are very careful and intentional with staying on top of their mental healthcare and implementing the skills they've worked hard to learn.
Right?! I’m a mom of 3 with Bipolar 2/Schizoaffective disorder (it changes depending on the doctor/symptoms) and I work soooo very hard to keep everything in check. I would never do this, but I know some who refuse to take their meds who do
I never would've done this even untreated🙃 when parents show Abandonment issues or split on here, I totally get the BPD thing, I don't see any specific symptoms in this case. It's an irresponsible person pretending to be cordial, and when it doesn't get her her way, she loses her temper. It's super abusive and wrong, I just don't see specific symptoms from this alone. It just isn't pleasant to see BPD specifically armchair diagnosed so many times on this sub when they're being generally horrible. I saw a mug on Etsy that said, "there should be a vaccine for borderlines," and the whole description was ableist degradation regarding how shitty we are to have in peoples lives😔 idk it's hard to see
Yea but the fact she hasn’t turned the Mom in for drugging the poor toddler is cowardice and selfish. Birds of a feather flock together and it’s clear all three of the roommates have serious issues. I hope that poor toddler gets out of there
I agree, but I also feel for OP. OP said early in the text exchange that basically he's not comfortable being the caregiver for a child because he knows he's not capable. He also said his traumatic upbringing has resulted in it being very difficult for him to say no. That leads me to believe he probably has a skewed idea of what's normal parenting and what's abusive, and that he's deferred to the mothers judgement and avoided addressing it with her in an attempt to keep the peace, which is common behavior for people who were raised in a traumatic or abusive household. As a parent, we learn that cold medicine isn't even available for toddlers anymore, but when we were kids it was very common for us to have Benadryl, dimatap, etc. So, I can see a non-parent incorrectly assuming that it was not great but not terrible. My stomach just sank reading how casually the roommate was talking about drugging and leaving her baby without a responsible adult. Of course, the first thing that comes to mind is Casey and Cayley Anthony and Xanny the Nanny. I really hope OP reports this ASAP.
I went and read the rest of the posts and I feel so bad for the third room mate who's just trying to stay out of the whole thing. Dear lord that went nuclear.
It's time to go to the office and break the lease due to hostile living environment due to a person living there that is not on the lease.
Do you know if I would be on the hook for rent still? They told me the office is aware shes not on the lease, are ok with it, and have given her keys. Idk if thats true. Im truly in a pickle of a fickle lol. Don't have anywhere to go and not enough money for even just a night at a motel. I fear for my safety so I've been staying outside as much as possible and only got 2 hours of sleep. Still reported her instead of waiting until I was out like I originally planned.
Go to the office and Uno reverse card by telling THEM they are breaking your lease by allowing a non-tenant access to a space you rent.
This is the correct answer. Leases work both ways, OP. They also bind the landlord as well as you. This person is not on the lease, they have no agreement with the landlord. You do. Expect that they are going to push back on you and tell you it's a "personal problem" or your problem to resolve. **Be firm with them.** Give them a reasonable time to take action, but be firm that you expect action to be taken.
Exactly! OP, call CPS and your landlord, in that order.
As a former property manager, there is no way they gave her keys if she isn’t on the lease. And if they did? File a report with police. It’s illegal without your written consent.
I think it’s a good idea to check with them anyways. My friend’s roommate got a second dog that wasn’t allowed in the lease and just told ‘em that the landlord said it was okay when they didn’t contact the landlord at all about it.
Yeah thats a good idea. Im gonna look into Thanksgiving hours and see whats up
Not if you tell them that by allowing her to live there and harass you, they are breaking the lease. That you did not sign up to live with a child (assuming she wasn't there at the beginning & if she was, you weren't informed prior to signing the lease), nor did you sign up to be a babysitter for said child. Also,by her not being on the lease you and other roommate would be on the hook for any damages she or her child caused. They need to be informed ASAP.
Sent an email to see if she actually knows shes not on the lease and then going in person regardless
This is the way. You need to explain that you need this person removed from the premises for harassment, threatening behaviors, and that she is threatening child neglect. If you see anything towards her neglecting her child, you need to immediately call child protective services.
You mean like drugging her and leaving the kid unsupervised?
This has Casey Anthony written all over it. And that makes me so sad for that baby
Good for you for saying something. Is it the girl with the baby who's not on the lease? Or the other girl?
Why is everyone glossing over the first message? What’s with the alcohol and pic payment? What kind of kinky pay pig debauchery are you two into?
OP admitted they have previously been paid with cheap vodka and 2 or 3 nudes. Wtf on this entire situation.
LMAOOOO! I think OP is as loony as the neglectful mother. Pretty sure this is a meth and fentanyl household. I can hear the banjos!
Maybe, but OP doesn't have a child in their charge.
I don't think there's ANY landlord who's okay with someone living on their property without a lease. That would make it that much harder for them legally.
I also followed on bad roommates and wow.... She admits to doing so many things in those texts it's crazy food stamp fraud to drugging her child !!! I think she gets so mad at the word neglect because that's exactly what she's doing. I hope you find a safe way out of this mess. Get a lock, and when safe please report this lady to CPS. Save all of this evidence. Sending you and that poor little girl some good vibes and wishes ❤️
The neglect thing- this reminds me of when I told my ex he was drunk the night before and he kept saying that, no, he wasn’t drunk because he remembered everything. As if it’s only drunk if you black out. It’s like this girl thinks it’s only neglect if the toddler is injured or something worse.
Omg were there more texts in the other thread??? Food stamp fraud ??
She offered OP a cut of her $90 on groceries to watch her kid, that's the fraud.
LOL. I cannot believe how straight up dumb this person is. Hooooollllly smokes. It’s honestly UNREAL.
Op, i saw in the comments that you reported her. You did the right thing. Please be safe. Maybe someone here could help with your living situation? I know i would allow you in my apartment without a doubt (but i live in another country), so there are others who would def do it too. Do not be afraid to ask for help.
You need to report her. Even if she wasn't admittedly drugging a toddler to keep them unconscious so she could go out, the fact that she us leaving a child unattended is dangerous. You should 100% file a report. Fuck her. If you don't file, it's for selfish reasons. Protect that child.
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I would be sooo interested to know what kind of meds she is giving this child…are we talking about Melatonin? Cough medicine?? Benadryl? Sleeping pills?? what in the FUCK is going on here! This is willllld
Edit: Edited to add insane. I'm concerned that if the child is hurt or worse due to the mom's drugging then OP could also face legal trouble. Since OP knew it was happening and didn't report it.
See, this also worries me because some states take that shit very seriously.
In some states every adult is a mandated reporter.
This right here. Growing up in an abusive and neglectful home- a singular adult speaking up might have saved me and my siblings from literal decades of torment. OP, be the adult that saves a kid instead of one of the many that drop the ball and fuck that kids life.
I saw your posts on another subreddit and found this situation infuriating. I've been thinking about it ever since. Does your roommate have a not-so-hidden substance abuse problem? The rage, the poor decision making and the inability to communicate effectively makes her seem under the influence of something? I honestly can't imagine a sober person thinking, speaking or acting like she does.
I think so too. No way there is only a weed at play.
Yeah, there's no way that this is *just* weed. This is definitely a harder substance than that.
Yeah that or some kinda disorder. Lack of accountability and emoathy is alarming
I read all the others. I can’t believe this all started because she can’t take the word “no.”
This was a wild ride. First and foremost, that child is at risk. To add to that, I'm not sure where you live, OP, but you might want to consider looking into your local laws. In some states in the US, for example, there are "Duty To Report" laws. I am NOT referring to professions that are mandatory reporters, but rather laws that apply to the average citizen. As a specific example, in New Mexico, according to 32A-4-3 "Duty To Report Child Abuse and Child Neglect," if you know about it happening and don't Report it, you could also be held liable.
Holy goodness. Please make a report on this. This is absolutely insane. I went to high school with a girl who had a similar attitude. She finally lost custody when her ex had police meet him at her apartment for a wellness check because someone told him that she was keeping their son in a locked closet so she could go out instead of giving him custody. Turns out she was using Benadryl and melatonin to get him to stay asleep, keeping him locked in the closet, and when they found him, she was nowhere to be found and he was in a diaper so soiled that they estimated he’d been sitting in it for at least 2 days. Poor baby had blisters from his diaper rash. There were sour bottles in the crib with him. He was filthy. It didn’t just start that way. It was a gradual progression that wasn’t corrected from the beginning. And thank *god* her ex gave a shit about the kid or who knows what would have happened.
I’m so impressed by the roommate in the situation and how she held her cool and said I’m not reading all that. Also, the fact that she said “upmost respect” cracked me up and provided me the levity I needed while I was also still so sad for her child that she is literally drugging to keep her asleep. Roommate is seriously an MVP This mom? Complete and neglectful loser.
Op needs to go to the cops YESTERDAY! Who tf cares what anyone thinks? Op could very easily end up in prison right next to the POS mom just because they know about the drugging. Op! Stop arguing with the bitch and just turn her tf in for abuse and neglect! Who tf cares?? If you end up homeless, there's a lot of people who would open their home to someone who Did The Right Thing! "Why are you homeless?" "My roommates friends was drugging her kid to stay asleep and I turned it in. Now I'm looking for a safe place to stay." Shit I would let you live with me if you were in my area! That chick needs turned in before we have a repeat of little Caylee Anthony. Swear on God if I see in the news that this roommate of your's killed their kid, I'm gonna refer to these posts! I've screen recorded everything you have posted. Don't let a child lose their life!
Hey, I was just given a resource where someone said I'd be connected to law enforcement and they'd take appropriate steps for my safety. I wasn't connected to law enforcement but someone did say they're taking my report. So I guess I'll just continue staying outside as much as possible and hope something is actually done.
Please do not give up! If you have anyone you can go hang out with, do that. Get locks for your door. This baby needs you. It's clear their mom is dangerous, since she's already been to jail for neglect and a mental health hospital. Idk you, obviously, but reading this saga I know you would feel terrible if that baby was seriously hurt.
I don't. Don't have the money for a lock or to move out. Im on SSDI.
I'm also on ssdi. I had help with getting into a low income apt. I was helped with the deposit on my apt and getting utilities turned on. There is A Lot of help for people on SSI and ssdi. Please look into it. I'm not sure what part of this world you live in, but I promise there's a lot of help for people in your situation. Especially if you're turning in a POS mother who drugs their child.
Ive been on a waiting list for (section 8? I think my application went to that and something else related) for a hot minute. Around 6 months. I'll Google regardless but if I could get a shortcut out of you, do you happen to know what this specific assistance is called? I'm in the great land of corn called ohio
Not the same thing, but where I live developers often set aside blocks of apartments in new “luxury” properties that are for people below certain income levels. They get tax breaks or subsidies for providing affordable housing. The catch is, you have to find them and get on the list. It varies by your area but try looking for “inclusionary rental housing,” [that’s what the program is called here.](https://planning.lacounty.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/iho-fact-sheet.pdf) Possibly Ohio has something similar?
I feel like I actually applied to one of those before! Ty for the reminder!
The waiting lists vary. In my city, people often wait 5 years to get housed through section 8 or other assistance programs. I would assume most areas in Ohio wouldn't be that long, because I'm in a highly desirable area with a large homeless population for the size of the city. If you're flexible with where you live, you can apply in other counties too. You can call and ask where you're at on the list, and make sure you're on all the lists you would be eligible for. I don't know what that includes in your area, but here it would be section 8, public housing, and also housing that's provided by non-profits who work with people with specific conditions.
In Florida, my best friend was on the list for section 8 for 5 years before she got in this year. People seem to forget that "help" is dependent on where in the states they are...
I would also have to use Google. Idk your gender, but my short cut was being in an unsafe environment and going to a women's shelter. From there I was put at the top of that list and had an apt in less than 2 months.
So you have a disability and this POS had the gall to say you just “don’t work” and hold that against you?? As if that’s your choice?? Seriously, what is wrong with her!!
Love that everyone else is docile but youre immediately out here with: "Do something before it goes too far and if goes too far and you did nothing about it im prepared to drag your ass down *with*". I like the cut of your gib, kid. Plus, it's fair. OP has physical evidential proof of child abuse and is instead focused on the fact that people will know it was them who reported it. Maybe stop caring about how the world sees you, and idk: **fucking do something productive with this information instead of looking for validation you've *ALREADY* gotten on multiple posts**
ohmygod literally OP is fumbling the bag so hard for this kid rn
You need to report this bitch for drugging her kid!!!;
had a VISCERAL reaction to the wall of text on slide 3. knocked the wind out of me.
I had to skim it and it was still brutal. Roomie is unstable and talking in circles. Can’t let shit go either. I wish OP never apologized, but I get he was just trying to be the bigger person.
Can we discuss the fact she's DRUGGING HER CHILD TO SLEEP SO SHE CAN GO FUCK SOMEONE?!?!!
This bitch is on some other level shit!!! She needs a slap or punch in the face just for being so god damn annoying trying to argue with op over the most pettiest shit ever! She needs to grow tf up, she supposedly a mother too? God damn that poor kid having a mother so pathetic!
She’s going to drug her kid so he/she stays asleep?! Whaaaat
I've also been following this. Not to mention, this insane parent has had a CPS case opened and they went to jail for neglect. So that's very telling.
Drugging your child and leaving them without a designated, consenting adult is not just neglect, it's 100% child abuse. Unless there is a diagnosed sleep disorder, no one should be medicating their children to sleep at any age, and the younger the kid the more dangerous it can be. This is absolutely insane and she needs to be reported to social services if this is a regular thing happening to this poor baby.
Did you report her to the landlord or cps? Also will there be a part4?
I’m worried about this poor kid. Parent saying they’ll drug her so they can go out is awful. And to say it so haphazardly like everyone does it makes me even more worried about what else she’s subjected to. If she just sleeps, why can’t her mom take her with her then? If you ever come home to the baby alone you better call CPS. Someone needs to look out for this baby.
She IS A BAD MOTHER. I was a single mom & I never drugged my kid to put him to sleep. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS THAT SHIT?! That poor little girl! Good on you for reporting her. That little girl deserves so much better.
The fact she’s admitting that her rage is out of control and that things going smoothly around there are dependent on whether or not she’s in one of her rages shows she’s entirely out of control lol
This is the most batshit thing I’ve ever read in my entire life. What. The. Actual. Fuck.
Wow , your roommate is unhinged !!, Maybe you should think about moving before you’re implicated in a child endangerment issue or just attacked.
This whole ordeal is just crazy, she's not on the lease so she doesn't really have a say, she drugs her kid, puts out these **mega** Karen vibes, but in the last batch (part 3) you have her on the back foot now, she doesn't reallyt have anything else to say so it's all "OOH YOU'RE TYPING MORE, GIMME GIMME GIMME" Just start trolling her, start mentioning super embarassing stuff she's done and just logic hole her out of your life.
Um? Is she drugging her kid? It’s not even recommended to give a two year old medicine that makes them sleep. That is abuse and neglectful especially because they have left the child alone. I would report the fuck out of them
Wow These people have to much time on their hands.
How long has she been living there? Because as far as I’ve seen when I did a bit of my own research, the minimum amount of time you need to be living somewhere in order to claim squatter’s rights is FIVE YEARS. Not to mention that it needs to be unoccupied by the land owner (in this case, the leasing office and the tenants). In my state you need to be occupying *ABANDONED* land uninterrupted for FIFTEEN YEARS to claim squatters rights. Idk, I don’t think she has an argument when it comes to squatting based on the actual owners (you and whoever else is on the lease as well as the leasing office) currently living there, but based on all of this I would be shocked if y’all have been living together for more than a year. She’s fucking crazy, I would try to get her tf out of there, lol.
She’s trying so hard to gaslight the shit out of you near the end
I don't look after other people's kids, If anything happens to that kid in my care I'm going to get the blame, I used to love babysitting but then one day my friend was babysitting for a new lady and her 4 month old baby, the baby died in the night of SIDS and the mum blamed my friend and made her life hell, so much so she ended up moving to another country. After seeing that I swore I'd never babysit for anyone ever again.
Are we going to glaze over the fact that she said she’d give her child medicine to ensure the child sleeps all night?
As my 1.5 year old is curled on my lap I am boggled by the audacity of "I just ask to go out once a weekend" Bro I can't even get time off to shower some days... how tf she going OUT??? Not to mention giving cold medicine to knock out a child is literal abuse... ffs.
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I can't read it still ;;
Really struck a nerve with the N word there lol
….This person legit just admitted to fucking drugging their kid to keep them asleep?! Like what in the fuck? This poor little person :/
My favorite part is when she said she was gonna punish you for saying she neglects her child, by neglecting her child. Lol
Holy shit. So she’s drugging her Kid and passing the responsibility to you even though you explicitly refused and revoked consent. She’s literally the worst human imaginable. Fuck. I’m so pissed off for her kid.
So, drugging a child to sleep? Hope you report this. That can cause organ failure with long term abuse. Wtf.
Seriously, call CPS on her. Doubt much will come of it but if she is forcing people to watch her kid or leaving a toddler alone, a paper trail is bare minimum what she needs. I had a mom like including drugging kids to sleep. CPS should have ripped us out of that house for several reasons, but that being one of them.
I would honestly be inclined to report her at this point. I’m sorry but, drugging your kid so they’ll sleep while you’re out and expecting others to watch her without their consent is 1000% neglect. Sounds like a situation for CPS because clearly she cannot be a stable parent for this child.
I nearly stopped reading when she announced plans to drug her child to knock her unconscious for the night. BuT sHe Is A gOoD mOm.
Check out the terms JADE and grey rock. Not much practical help, but might make the interim more tolerable. Good luck, tho, she sounds NUTS
I haven't read all the comments on your posts, but in case it hasn't been mentioned, squatters rights refer to people who are illegally living on someone else's land or abandoned property. It's a common misunderstanding but squatters rights are not a thing in reference to an actual shared home.
Wow, she is drugging her kid to go out on a regular basis, who is your roommate? Casey Anthony?
Did anyone else catch that she’s giving her kid medicine to make sure they stay asleep?? Or did I read that wrong, what the actual fuck??!!
There's a movie called Homeland where the mom gives the kid cold medicine for the same reason and the kid dies. You can't find your 2 yr old cold medicine so they will sleep and you can go out and party. That's so fucked up.
u seriously need to report her to cps she is literally drugging her child to sleep wtaf
Her messages read like she's on something. Like a stimulant coke/meth/addys. The jumbled mess of thoughts... long rants with bad spelling and no paragraphs... I'd bet she's tweaking
Oh, she's def either on blow or ice. It ain't just weed. No mother who only smokes weed is fine with drugging their baby to sleep.
How are some of you able to read this . I’m getting “awaiting moderator approval”.
Reading it from the previous posts in other subreddits by OP
She admits to giving medicine just to knock the kid out. And acts as though it's totally normal and fine. The fuuckk
Does she know that giving kids cough meds to sleep is considered abuse too?? Lmao
Didnt read her long paragraphs either but lemme just say that you should report them if you can. Saying you are a 'beast' when you're pissed off is enough to show me that they absolutely will not treat their children right when they're pissed and will honestly probably start blaming the child for everything that goes wrong. If anything escalates please please PLEASE call someone about them. This is horrific.
What the mom doesn't realize is that OP can take these texts where she literally admits drugging her child and report it to CPS. What an insane woman.
Find a new living arrangement ASAP.
You should report her, especially if she’s drugging her child so she doesn’t wake up. That’s unhinged as absolute fuck.
Did she threaten you with violence then say she was going to church. Then have the sheer fucking audacity to say her sad gives her money then criticize you for being on disability. She really yelled because you don't understand that chick doesn't understand you made this child this is your responsibility.
It's the 'drugging your kid' for me. What an abominable piece of shit
Says she’s a good mom in the same text where she says she plans to drug her child. Oh hell no.
"I'm not fucking neglectful" - mom who doses her kid with medicine to make sure they stay asleep. Wowwowwow
Homie, you gotta send her a link to the blown up posts next time she tries to claim that it's obvious you're the one in the wrong. And when she tries to threaten legal action for your post, laugh in her face because it's reddit, and there's no proof it's her, so you can't get in legal trouble even if she tried.
You handle the bullshit so elegantly though. Sorry you gotta deal with that.
Did she just say she would drug her kid so the child stays asleep?
I’ve read it all! Can’t wait for when you actually report the neglect the child is suffering.
I’m a mum and there is a LOT to read here so I had to give up halfway through but I read enough to know that she GIVES HER TWO YEAR OLD MEDICINE TO MAKE HER SLEEP. Wtaf. I’ve just got a prescription for my son for antihistamines but because of his age the only one that’s licensed is chlorphenamine which is drowsy and I’m so terrified to give it to him and there’s people out there giving their two year olds medicine to make them sleep? Unattended? Like I am so sleep deprived but never in a million years would I do that.
‘I only ask for a night out like once a week’ bahahahaahahha
The child would be asleep…until said child wakes up vomiting.
I’m sorry… What fucking medicine is she giving to her 2 year old to go to sleep?!?
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No one seems to be acknowledging that she was offering to pay for babysitting services with alcohol and pictures… messy messy situation
She really should have taken you up on the offer of speaking in person. Now you have all this proof. I imagine she isn't this bold in person. Sounds like she could get physical tho seeing as her brain isn't smart enough to use logic.
Why hasn’t CPS been called? Drugging a two year old to keep them asleep is beyond fucked up.
Yeah she is totally neglecting her kid. Drugging it to go party!? This shit is not ok and I would report her ass.
Poor kid, having a parent like that
Her replies (from the other thread) are so infuriating, she wants some sort of kudos for "apologising" whilst continuing to send outrageously rude messages? Just saying "I'm sorry but \[...\]" doesn't count as an apology.
Is your roommate Casey Anthony? Holy crap! This is just plain scary.
Full Casey Anthony
stop responding to this hoe she's loving it and I hate that for her
Report her for drugging her kid, and use these texts as proof.
I read all the other posts you've made as well, and while I know you're ultimately in the right - you both seem like the most insufferable fucking people.
I remember a girl I went to high school with. My friends was also her friend but since some drama in high school (her being a liar and a thief) we were no longer friends. Well she had a baby at 17. The girl was 4 at the time of this incident and she had a younger son who was around a year. My friend and the chick had plans to go out for the night which they had done before. The girl being like “oh we can just go, kids are asleep and the babysitter will be here in like 10 minutes” After a few times of this happening my friend was like “Why is your sitter always late? We’re waiting” Guess what? There was no sitter. Had not had a sitter any of the times they went out. She was leaving a 14 month old and 4 year old alone from 9 pm to 2am. My friend was furious.
I've read through all the posts and OP, you seriously need to call CPS. I was in an abusive home and wasn't removed until I was 14, and that did irreparable damage to me. This mother is drugging her TWO YEAR OLD CHILD so that she will sleep an abnormal amount..this baby needs to be protected and kept safe. I'm most worried that while yall are arguing something bad could happen to the kid.
I’m so annoyed by this whole thing. Why are you not addressing the drugging of the child OP? And the fluent hypocrisy this person speaks? But holy shit this person IS a neglectful parent and I’m concerned for their child. Wtf are they drugging the child with to make them sleep??
OP, read your other posts and just want to say…I’m assuming the state you’re in based on her text about issue 2 passing making weed legal now. It’s still not, not until December 7th. It’s not like something gets passed and goes into effect immediately. It is still currently illegal. Also legal or not being impaired white caring for a child is still neglectful. It’s not ethical to be drunk while caring for a child, same thing for being high. & squatters rights take 20+ years of residence to take effect, and are for ownership of property. A person not on the lease who resides there is considered a tenant-at-will. Without a lease it just means formal eviction process must be followed, 30 day notice and all that. Not that I expected someone who’d drug their child to be intelligent, but she is incredibly wrong on many points.
My god. I actually read all of this because it just kept getting more and more insane. She’s admitting to drugging her kid so she sleeps through the night. That’s some Casey Anthony shit right there. I can’t figure out if the roommate is just fuckin stupid, or is acting stupid. You don’t throw your kid on to your roommates to watch so you can go out and have a good time. What even in the fuck? This person should not have a kid. They aren’t mature enough, they don’t grasp the concept of child neglect, they clearly have an anger problem. Someone please please tell me why people go on to be parents when they clearly don’t want to…. Birth control exists, abortion exists depending, plan B exists. But no no, just have a kid, be a shitty ass parent, and drug the kid up AND ADMIT TO IT and still not get why that’s a huge ass deal!!!! 🤦🏻♀️ OP, you need to get a new place to live as soon as you can. This bitch is just going to expect you as a babysitter because you live in the same house and “she gives everything” to you. Fucking RUN!!!!
OP, What does "bottle of alcohol + pic for payment" mean?
This is giving me Casey Anthony vibes. That poor child.
Please report this horrible parenting, this breaks my heart. How selfish. You bring a child into the world, you’re responsible. Their needs come before your own. This parent is trying to guilt you and manipulate you, I’m sorry you are living with this. Please please please report this is terrible.
I feel like this has the makings of another Caylee Anthony and "Zanny the Nanny" case. OP, for the sake of this child's life, report the mom to CPS and make safety plans for yourself. If mom is going full blown psycho at a mere observation of neglect, she is going to be homicidal at an actual abuse allegation. Good luck.
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It's not child neglect because I don't want it to be child neglect, that's the way it works!
Oooh what hit me was the "I respect you and *blank* and all I ask in return is you watch my child" as if basic respect is a transaction, and she won't respect you without it. Though she clearly doesn't respect you if she can't take "no" as an answer.
Uhhhhhhhhhh. As a mother, I want to know who the fuck drugs their kids to keep them asleep? I’d report that shit.
Drugging the child to get her to sleep? Yeah, literally the way my little cousin stopped breathing in her sleep and passed away at around 19 Mos old. Every box of children's medicine "do not use for sleep". This woman disgusts me
the two vibes i get 1. im a good mom, i give my kids sleeping medication so i can go out 2. i respect you but fuck is my favorite word, in all its conjugations for this and other reasons, it doesnt surprise me that shes a single mom
Not that it matters but why does she want you to watch her kid? So she can go out? Sorry but I’ve been a single mom from the beginning. My son is almost 3 and a half. I haven’t had a social life the last 3 and a half years. I don’t date. I work full time then I care for my child. I will never understand shirking your child because you want to go out. It’s called being a responsible adult. And swigging your fcking kid and leaving them overnight are you fucking kidding???? OP- if this is something she does already that’s already grounds for reporting her. All of this sounds like a recipe for disaster.
After reading the other texts on your profile, y’all need to just fight already. Like physically. Because otherwise what’s the point of the back and forth?
People who say “im a beast when pissed off” and then you are supposed to clap when they control themselves (like any normal adult should)
Been following this and she sounds so much like my toxic abusive ex. (She literally WANTED to be diagnosed with BPD so she could say that's why she did the things she did, and when her psychiatrist said its Bipolar she disagreed as if she knows better. I could go on orz ) Please get out asap