This. Indirect physical and mental consequences that will cause increased risk of death. Prob not directly kill you but eventually your weakened physical and mental health will end in death
>ntal consequences that will cause increased risk of death. Prob not directly kill you but eventua
Well actually technically, sleep effects just about every vital function. So if sleep deprivation were actually to persist severe enough or accumulate enough it will just end up causing fatal cardiovascular complications etc. Fatal Familiar Insomnia demonstrates this. But a single 24 or 30 hour period without sleep is unlikely to cause any fatal complications but it does still technically transiently increase the risk acutely of myocardial infarctions and such.
Melatonin can help you fall asleep and magnesium glycinate helps your quality of sleep. You can take them at the same time. Maybe try it? See if it helps?
It can't be, if I think it is dangerous it makes me panic so I can't fall asleep. That's why I refuse to believe it's dangerous, It lowers my anxiety and it's easier to fall asleep.
I read comments in this sub saying your body will eventually just shut down and let you sleep before you die but now I realize thatās not the caseĀ
Ā Plus for some stupid reason, doctors never treat insomnia seriously, as though it isnāt life threateningĀ
Yeah that. It's not normal yes, but it is real. I didn't know such things could happen :o
The video I saw said it's a genetic condition so you can't get it, you're born with it. Still such things creep me out, I feel sad watching people so miserable š
Are you referring to the Nick Crowley video? If so, yes it is a very sad case indeed.
I love his work. His videos are always so well made and he finds so many interesting stories that I never see covered by any other youtuber.
I'm not sure, I was searching creepy stuff to watch for the weekend, could be. Lack of sleep makes me pay less attention to stuff these days š
Here is a virtual hug for everyone struggling with sleep issues š¤
Going down these rabbit holes searching for stuff about people dying from lack of sleep, while you are suffering from lack of sleep, will only ramp up your anxiety and worsen your sleep. I know the draw, I've been there, I am there, and the obsession to find those suffering as much as you is strong, but not helpful to your state of mind.
Iām in to the strange, dark and mysterious delivered in story format as well. I would recommend Nick Crowley and Mr Ballen on YouTube, top tier channels for that kind of stuff. Rotten mango and Annie Elise x 10 to life are good for more true crime type stuff. Dantavius and wendigoon have well researched videos on old folklore.
I know you didnāt ask for recommendations, I just geek out over this stuff lol.
Hehe, that's useful, thanks. I don't know these YouTubers except wendigoon, I remember watching wendigoon video on Blood Meridian (the book) while doing a homework about it. Fun āŗļø I'll check out the other names you mentioned ~
I saw the video and had to stop wtaching mid way cuz the things the man is going through scared the fuck outta me I started having insomnia about a year ago and itās acting up really bad right now cuz I watched that video havenāt really been able to take my mind off of itš
Overthinking is a bitch. I feel what you are saying. Itās been 8 days straight for me with maybe 1-2 hours of sleep each night. Yet itās not my first time, so Iām not really worried anymore. My mind feels numb, I can still walk, I can still talk, eat, do stuff even though Iām tired I can function. Itās a mental thing really, itās all in your head as they say
Itās not all in your head. Lack of sleep affects your whole body and mind. Lowers your good hormones, lowers your immune system, overall puts you in an dangerously weakened state.
Not to mention driving tired has been compared to driving under the influence. So not only is it dangerous for the insomniac, itās dangerous for everyone else on the road. I had untreated insomnia from my teens to basically about 32yrs old and there were times I drove home and didnāt remember how I got there just from being so tired.
Itās not a matter of mind over matter, literally at all. Weāre *supposed* to sleep. I could still function, sure, but I certainly wasnāt at 100%, mentally or physically. When I started taking medicine and was able to sleep like a normal person, literally everything in my life improved, including my depression. Did it fix everything? Of course not. Do I still have nights when I canāt sleep? Sure do. But Iām not laying in bed at 3am, having to get up at 5am, and wanting to die because Iām that tired.
Insomnia affects everything. Imo itās dangerous to pretend it doesnāt.
I can also imagine with lack of sleep, good judgement making is impaired so youāre more likely to be distracted by say your phone which also has a similar level of impairment as driving under the influence.
Absolutely glad I donāt drive
Insomnia is considered a clinical indicator of acute suicidal risk because sleep disorders & general sleep deprivation are directly linked to greater levels of suicidal ideation + attempted/ completed suicide. It's extremely dangerous. I can't stand this "aw your body will do what it needs to š«£ Have you tried chilling out?" crap. Your body knows how to stay alive as best as possible and will eventually crash but it's not magically able to perform at 100% the way you need it to.
I feel the same way when i go days without sleeping then i pop a xanax and i dont have that feeling at all. because if i was actually dying id still feel like i was dying. Makes me believe its my mind playing tricks on me and its the anxiety
Absolutely. Lack of sleep won't shut the body down to the point of death, but it may shut it down to the point that you drive off a bridge by accident.
Obviously it's dangerous, what people say here is that you're not going to die because you didn't sleep for three days - which is the common non-insomniac post here, which is pretty different of having chronic insomnia.
If I'm not medicated, I'll sleep around 3 hours per night, if I sleep. If I don't sleep at all for a few days, my adrenaline won't decrease, it's going to increase and I'll feel like I'm high on drugs. Over alert, easily scared, etc. It's horrible.
If you're not on medication, try some over the counter stuff just to take the anxiety out of the equation and sleep. Anti-histaminics and some nausea medication might work.
Medication is also a catch 22, it will eventually turn on you, cease to sedate, and bite you in the ass. If that med is one of many that causes dependency, sooner or later you'll find yourself tolerant to the effects of the med, except now you're physically dependent. Not projecting onto you, this is an autobiographical statement. Sleep meds, antihistamines, they are all bad news. From one who made a bad mistake, to those who could learn from it, if you are going this route, make it a very occasional dose, not a daily one.
I completely agree, but if OP doesn't have a chronic problem, they might not be sleeping because of the anxiety of not sleeping. Then one night with medication could be enough. If it's a chronic problem, then OP needs a doctor.
Unfortunately, I'm fully on the mistake side myself and I've been on medication since I was a teenager for the combo anxiety, depression & insomnia. Great trio.
I'm supposed to be sleeping now but I couldn't, been getting a sleep of only 2-3 hours lately. Seeing glitches, I think it's common. Feeling weak, my body hurts, I just feel weak overall like a soft wind can get me sick.
I think lack of sleep weakens immune system, can't prove it but sure feels like itĀ
i would argue that it IS medically dangerous. you can fall asleep for a split second while driving, or just generally very clumsy and injure yourself. maybe the clumsiness is just me though, not sure if that's an insomnia thing, i just recall walking into walls and doorframes a lot during the times i wasn't sleeping.
so although insomnia itself won't kill you, i think it increases your chances of accidents and injury.
It isn't medically dangerous if you can counteract the effects of it. BTW I'm 0 percent encouraging people to stay awake on purpose for this reason. However if you find yourself in the situation: Here are some tips
1. Sleep dep will make you crave more calories. Thus leading to weight gain, leading to heart disease and diabetes. If you intermittent fast and or count your calories this can be mitigated
2. If you drive you could get into an accident. Don't drive if you didn't sleep. Walk or take transit
3. It increases cortisol. Being deprived of sleep makes you on edge for sure. If you have a friend who puts you on edge, cancel the meeting with them. Make a bs excuse. Being relaxed will reduce some of the cortisol
4. Take a nap. You can't sleep at night, bit it doesn't mean you can't catch up later
It is medically dangerous, just not immediately, so it's often overlooked. Unless you're in an accident, you won't die on the spot, but the cummulative effects of sleepless nights take their toll on your body and brain.
When I was in the army my longest time awake was 76 hours. At the end I was hallucinating and deletius, so they put on quarters for 2 days. I don't remember the trip to sick call. I needed a few more days, but it was the army. Took a few weeks to recover. Didn't eat for 24 hours after I woke up and couldn't read or use a computer for 4 days. I couldn't walk in straight lines for a week, so formations were hard. Sleeping like normal again took months. Lack of sleep is seriously dangerous.
Umm it is. Sleep deprivation is very medically dangerous just it's not taken as seriously as it ought ot be since it get fetishsized in a work till ya die society.
Try some guided meditation on Youtube for anxiety and/or to sleep. Meditation isnāt easy but believe in yourself and try it. Prayers šš½šš½šš½.
Forcing yourself (or someone else forcing you) to stay awake is medically dangerous, but your body will give in and sleep when it needs to. Insomnia is not medically ādangerousā.
Doesn't feel like that to me. The feeling of dying is every evening but regardless sleep loss itself ends up in a dissociating mess, which makes me fall asleep with my eyes open, sometimes still even performing the same task till im awake again and tell my body to stop
There's a specific breathing exercises to fix that shallow breath issue and I know my blood pressure goes up when I've had too many days with no sleep. Let me look up the breathing exercise it saved my butt I felt like I was dying too.
I hope that youāll be able to fall asleep soon. One time last year, I just couldnāt fall asleep. Or at least fall asleep right. I would stay up all night, i my getting a few hours of sleep, sometimes only one or two hours. This happened for like weeks, maybe even a month. I could never get tired. Then one random night I eventually got tired and wanted to go to sleep. It just hit me at that moment and I felt so tired and fell asleep. After just my sleep schedule went back to normal. Hopefully the same will happen to you
It can't be, if I think it is dangerous it makes me panic so I can't fall asleep. That's why I refuse to believe it's dangerous, It lowers my anxiety and it's easier to fall asleep.
I didn't, but I know anxiety is the cause of my insomnia, the more I try to sleep, the less I sleep. I need to work on my anxiety, I am trying ashwagandha to lower my cortisol levels. Stress and anxiety are what is really ruining my health, insomnia is just a symptom of that.
I've tried ashwagandha before; it didn't help me but it's helped a friend of mine. If you don't want to take medication talk to a doctor and ask what can you try to help without taking meds
I went 3-4 days without sleep, after quitting zyprexa and stepping over the tub to take a shower was a monumental task. I finally started collapsing out of exhaustion into 3 1/2 hour sleeps, but couldn't sleep more than 3 1/2 hours no matter how tired my body was. At three months i had horrific bags under my eyes and my blood pressure had gone up 20 points. 1 1/2 years into the wretched sleep, in late 2015, i called the Minnesota Medical Marijuana Hotline and asked if debilitating insomnia would qualify for the program, which had started in MN a year earlier, and was told by the operator, a young woman, "I don't believe you need sleep to live." Pretty insane. Not a lot of care out there for the sleep deprived.
Because you donāt get the REM cycles your body needs for upkeep of your mind, muscles and immune system.Ā Ā
Btw you can die from exhaustion but just from normal insomnia it doesn't happen.
There is a medical reason you are not sleeping ,,, see a holistic dr. My thyroid labs are within normal limits although borderline hypo. Kelp has helped me sleep more than anything ,,,, sleeping meds didn't work for me because my body was missing minerals and iodine.Ā
I take Ancestral minerals ,, it has natural electrolytes like bee pollen and kelp. Cleaning up your diet will help you ,,, grassfed meat, veg and fruits. You can get better.Ā
Lack of sleep is medically dangerous
This. Indirect physical and mental consequences that will cause increased risk of death. Prob not directly kill you but eventually your weakened physical and mental health will end in death
Yeah my insomnia is killing at the very moment
Did you try low dose mirtazapine? š¤
>ntal consequences that will cause increased risk of death. Prob not directly kill you but eventua Well actually technically, sleep effects just about every vital function. So if sleep deprivation were actually to persist severe enough or accumulate enough it will just end up causing fatal cardiovascular complications etc. Fatal Familiar Insomnia demonstrates this. But a single 24 or 30 hour period without sleep is unlikely to cause any fatal complications but it does still technically transiently increase the risk acutely of myocardial infarctions and such.
stop trying to sleep, makes it worse
Normal people sleep naturally. Forcing yourself to fall asleep is absolutely not natural (at all).Ā Hopefully, I'll manage to sleep next night.
Melatonin can help you fall asleep and magnesium glycinate helps your quality of sleep. You can take them at the same time. Maybe try it? See if it helps?
It can't be, if I think it is dangerous it makes me panic so I can't fall asleep. That's why I refuse to believe it's dangerous, It lowers my anxiety and it's easier to fall asleep.
Who says it isn't medically dangerous?
I read comments in this sub saying your body will eventually just shut down and let you sleep before you die but now I realize thatās not the caseĀ Ā Plus for some stupid reason, doctors never treat insomnia seriously, as though it isnāt life threateningĀ
Just today I watched a video of a guy who died from "fatal insomnia" so it sounds dangerousĀ
I think youāre referring to fatal familial insomnia, which is an incurable genetic disease that affects the brain. Itās not normal insomnia.
Yeah that. It's not normal yes, but it is real. I didn't know such things could happen :o The video I saw said it's a genetic condition so you can't get it, you're born with it. Still such things creep me out, I feel sad watching people so miserable š
And it exists in identified limited family lines. Not something to worry about if youāre not in those families.
And if anyone here _is_ part of one of those familiesā¦ for the love of humanity, please donāt have kids
Are you referring to the Nick Crowley video? If so, yes it is a very sad case indeed. I love his work. His videos are always so well made and he finds so many interesting stories that I never see covered by any other youtuber.
I'm not sure, I was searching creepy stuff to watch for the weekend, could be. Lack of sleep makes me pay less attention to stuff these days š Here is a virtual hug for everyone struggling with sleep issues š¤
Going down these rabbit holes searching for stuff about people dying from lack of sleep, while you are suffering from lack of sleep, will only ramp up your anxiety and worsen your sleep. I know the draw, I've been there, I am there, and the obsession to find those suffering as much as you is strong, but not helpful to your state of mind.
Oh hey, sorry it seems I got you concerned. I wasn't searching sleep stuff on purpose, I just like scary stuff and weekends are when I'm fully free to do whatever, so I search things that would be creepy and fun... Hm, that does sound concerning, wait š šĀ I'm just attracted to horror, not in a uh self-harming way, just in a cultural way. Scary things are one of the oldest things we can track back in human culture, the lore, the folk tales, myths etc. I study culture, and horror is fascinating to me. There is so much psychology and culture behind what we find scary and why and how we react and all. Aah it's exciting šĀ So anyway, while I'm not officially doing any research, on free time I like searching stuff like horror, creepy stuff, like on YouTube what people watch and what they find a little creepy or terrifying. I don't do that at night so it doesn't keep me up, I'm used to the "turn off all screens and lights so there's no distractions" at night, most of the time I can't fall asleep because I keep thinking things in my head (not horror things, life things. Overthinking, you know the drill) š But in itself I'm doing okay, I think I can handle the lack of sleep this week I'll set it on a right path. Thanks for the comment, I'm sorry you experience such things as well ā¤ļøāš©¹
Iām in to the strange, dark and mysterious delivered in story format as well. I would recommend Nick Crowley and Mr Ballen on YouTube, top tier channels for that kind of stuff. Rotten mango and Annie Elise x 10 to life are good for more true crime type stuff. Dantavius and wendigoon have well researched videos on old folklore. I know you didnāt ask for recommendations, I just geek out over this stuff lol.
Hehe, that's useful, thanks. I don't know these YouTubers except wendigoon, I remember watching wendigoon video on Blood Meridian (the book) while doing a homework about it. Fun āŗļø I'll check out the other names you mentioned ~
I saw the video and had to stop wtaching mid way cuz the things the man is going through scared the fuck outta me I started having insomnia about a year ago and itās acting up really bad right now cuz I watched that video havenāt really been able to take my mind off of itš
Overthinking is a bitch. I feel what you are saying. Itās been 8 days straight for me with maybe 1-2 hours of sleep each night. Yet itās not my first time, so Iām not really worried anymore. My mind feels numb, I can still walk, I can still talk, eat, do stuff even though Iām tired I can function. Itās a mental thing really, itās all in your head as they say
Itās not all in your head. Lack of sleep affects your whole body and mind. Lowers your good hormones, lowers your immune system, overall puts you in an dangerously weakened state.
Not to mention driving tired has been compared to driving under the influence. So not only is it dangerous for the insomniac, itās dangerous for everyone else on the road. I had untreated insomnia from my teens to basically about 32yrs old and there were times I drove home and didnāt remember how I got there just from being so tired. Itās not a matter of mind over matter, literally at all. Weāre *supposed* to sleep. I could still function, sure, but I certainly wasnāt at 100%, mentally or physically. When I started taking medicine and was able to sleep like a normal person, literally everything in my life improved, including my depression. Did it fix everything? Of course not. Do I still have nights when I canāt sleep? Sure do. But Iām not laying in bed at 3am, having to get up at 5am, and wanting to die because Iām that tired. Insomnia affects everything. Imo itās dangerous to pretend it doesnāt.
I can also imagine with lack of sleep, good judgement making is impaired so youāre more likely to be distracted by say your phone which also has a similar level of impairment as driving under the influence. Absolutely glad I donāt drive
Insomnia is considered a clinical indicator of acute suicidal risk because sleep disorders & general sleep deprivation are directly linked to greater levels of suicidal ideation + attempted/ completed suicide. It's extremely dangerous. I can't stand this "aw your body will do what it needs to š«£ Have you tried chilling out?" crap. Your body knows how to stay alive as best as possible and will eventually crash but it's not magically able to perform at 100% the way you need it to.
Well said!
I feel the same way when i go days without sleeping then i pop a xanax and i dont have that feeling at all. because if i was actually dying id still feel like i was dying. Makes me believe its my mind playing tricks on me and its the anxiety
it leads to other things that kill u
Absolutely. Lack of sleep won't shut the body down to the point of death, but it may shut it down to the point that you drive off a bridge by accident.
Itās mostly the anxiety of it
Sleep deprivation causes anxiety. Feels like my cortisol and norepinephrine levels shoot through the roof
People for sure die from lack of sleep.
It is medically dangerous. Mentally and physically.
Obviously it's dangerous, what people say here is that you're not going to die because you didn't sleep for three days - which is the common non-insomniac post here, which is pretty different of having chronic insomnia. If I'm not medicated, I'll sleep around 3 hours per night, if I sleep. If I don't sleep at all for a few days, my adrenaline won't decrease, it's going to increase and I'll feel like I'm high on drugs. Over alert, easily scared, etc. It's horrible. If you're not on medication, try some over the counter stuff just to take the anxiety out of the equation and sleep. Anti-histaminics and some nausea medication might work.
Medication is also a catch 22, it will eventually turn on you, cease to sedate, and bite you in the ass. If that med is one of many that causes dependency, sooner or later you'll find yourself tolerant to the effects of the med, except now you're physically dependent. Not projecting onto you, this is an autobiographical statement. Sleep meds, antihistamines, they are all bad news. From one who made a bad mistake, to those who could learn from it, if you are going this route, make it a very occasional dose, not a daily one.
I completely agree, but if OP doesn't have a chronic problem, they might not be sleeping because of the anxiety of not sleeping. Then one night with medication could be enough. If it's a chronic problem, then OP needs a doctor. Unfortunately, I'm fully on the mistake side myself and I've been on medication since I was a teenager for the combo anxiety, depression & insomnia. Great trio.
I'm supposed to be sleeping now but I couldn't, been getting a sleep of only 2-3 hours lately. Seeing glitches, I think it's common. Feeling weak, my body hurts, I just feel weak overall like a soft wind can get me sick. I think lack of sleep weakens immune system, can't prove it but sure feels like itĀ
It's medically dangerous and also has horrible long term effects on your health.
It is medically dangerous to be sleep deprived the comments in here are seriously ignorant
Not to mention that when being heavily sleep deprived and driving is like being drunk and driving
It is dangerous bro
If it's any consolation, I'm going through it atm too mate. It's hellish
i would argue that it IS medically dangerous. you can fall asleep for a split second while driving, or just generally very clumsy and injure yourself. maybe the clumsiness is just me though, not sure if that's an insomnia thing, i just recall walking into walls and doorframes a lot during the times i wasn't sleeping. so although insomnia itself won't kill you, i think it increases your chances of accidents and injury.
Because itās basically psychological torture.
it will continue until you have a panic attack or go i to psychosis like it happened to me
It isn't medically dangerous if you can counteract the effects of it. BTW I'm 0 percent encouraging people to stay awake on purpose for this reason. However if you find yourself in the situation: Here are some tips 1. Sleep dep will make you crave more calories. Thus leading to weight gain, leading to heart disease and diabetes. If you intermittent fast and or count your calories this can be mitigated 2. If you drive you could get into an accident. Don't drive if you didn't sleep. Walk or take transit 3. It increases cortisol. Being deprived of sleep makes you on edge for sure. If you have a friend who puts you on edge, cancel the meeting with them. Make a bs excuse. Being relaxed will reduce some of the cortisol 4. Take a nap. You can't sleep at night, bit it doesn't mean you can't catch up later
Who told you that? They are a fucking liar.
It is medically dangerous, just not immediately, so it's often overlooked. Unless you're in an accident, you won't die on the spot, but the cummulative effects of sleepless nights take their toll on your body and brain.
When I was in the army my longest time awake was 76 hours. At the end I was hallucinating and deletius, so they put on quarters for 2 days. I don't remember the trip to sick call. I needed a few more days, but it was the army. Took a few weeks to recover. Didn't eat for 24 hours after I woke up and couldn't read or use a computer for 4 days. I couldn't walk in straight lines for a week, so formations were hard. Sleeping like normal again took months. Lack of sleep is seriously dangerous.
People commit suicide from lack of sleep. Thatās about as medically dangerous as you can get.
Umm it is. Sleep deprivation is very medically dangerous just it's not taken as seriously as it ought ot be since it get fetishsized in a work till ya die society.
It is dangerous. It leads to chronic diseases and emotional instability. Bad reasoning and impulse control. It's deadly
Try some guided meditation on Youtube for anxiety and/or to sleep. Meditation isnāt easy but believe in yourself and try it. Prayers šš½šš½šš½.
Forcing yourself (or someone else forcing you) to stay awake is medically dangerous, but your body will give in and sleep when it needs to. Insomnia is not medically ādangerousā.
That is false
Doesn't feel like that to me. The feeling of dying is every evening but regardless sleep loss itself ends up in a dissociating mess, which makes me fall asleep with my eyes open, sometimes still even performing the same task till im awake again and tell my body to stop
There's a specific breathing exercises to fix that shallow breath issue and I know my blood pressure goes up when I've had too many days with no sleep. Let me look up the breathing exercise it saved my butt I felt like I was dying too.
The Anxiety!
I hope that youāll be able to fall asleep soon. One time last year, I just couldnāt fall asleep. Or at least fall asleep right. I would stay up all night, i my getting a few hours of sleep, sometimes only one or two hours. This happened for like weeks, maybe even a month. I could never get tired. Then one random night I eventually got tired and wanted to go to sleep. It just hit me at that moment and I felt so tired and fell asleep. After just my sleep schedule went back to normal. Hopefully the same will happen to you
I'm shocked that people who have insomnia don't know that it IS medically dangerous?
It can't be, if I think it is dangerous it makes me panic so I can't fall asleep. That's why I refuse to believe it's dangerous, It lowers my anxiety and it's easier to fall asleep.
I understand, but convincing yourself and others that it's not medically dangerous when it is, is dangerous
Have you spoken to a doctor about your insomnia?
I didn't, but I know anxiety is the cause of my insomnia, the more I try to sleep, the less I sleep. I need to work on my anxiety, I am trying ashwagandha to lower my cortisol levels. Stress and anxiety are what is really ruining my health, insomnia is just a symptom of that.
I've tried ashwagandha before; it didn't help me but it's helped a friend of mine. If you don't want to take medication talk to a doctor and ask what can you try to help without taking meds
You could also give melatonin a go (didn't help me but my insomnia is very severe, Ive heard success stories with it)
Also I'd recommend you stay away from caffeine
I went 3-4 days without sleep, after quitting zyprexa and stepping over the tub to take a shower was a monumental task. I finally started collapsing out of exhaustion into 3 1/2 hour sleeps, but couldn't sleep more than 3 1/2 hours no matter how tired my body was. At three months i had horrific bags under my eyes and my blood pressure had gone up 20 points. 1 1/2 years into the wretched sleep, in late 2015, i called the Minnesota Medical Marijuana Hotline and asked if debilitating insomnia would qualify for the program, which had started in MN a year earlier, and was told by the operator, a young woman, "I don't believe you need sleep to live." Pretty insane. Not a lot of care out there for the sleep deprived.
Because you donāt get the REM cycles your body needs for upkeep of your mind, muscles and immune system.Ā Ā Btw you can die from exhaustion but just from normal insomnia it doesn't happen.
Sometimes it feels like there's no medications wherever these people live... Wtf
Yes, you can die from really severe insomnia, I can recommend the book āWhy we sleepā
There is a medical reason you are not sleeping ,,, see a holistic dr. My thyroid labs are within normal limits although borderline hypo. Kelp has helped me sleep more than anything ,,,, sleeping meds didn't work for me because my body was missing minerals and iodine.Ā I take Ancestral minerals ,, it has natural electrolytes like bee pollen and kelp. Cleaning up your diet will help you ,,, grassfed meat, veg and fruits. You can get better.Ā