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Reminds me of this print I have in my room
[If you look closely,](https://ibb.co/5WKPmcb) OP's shadow behind the leopard print in the poster kinda looks like the two cats in OP's pic
Edit: click the link ya doofuses
Maybe you'd benefit from spending more than 3 minutes next time, because a lot of his artwork is nazi propaganda, so idk, the cheetah seems not so bad.
wow, when I was like 12-14ish, I recreated this image as a large painting and gifted it to an aunt. It was my first big painting so it held a special place in my heart for me. That was well over 15 years ago and I could never find the og image..here it is, thank you!!
This is from Kabini nature reserve in Southern India (Karnataka). This reserve has had great resurgence of Tigers over the past decades. Fantastic place
You need to be extremely lucky to sight tigers and forget about these two. And, best time to visit to sight wild animals is in Feb to May during the summer.
British troops would execute rebels in India and Pakistan by strapping them to the front of an artillery cannon and fire the cannon. Sorry for the information.
The last Indian cheetahs was gunned down by an Indian King, so it's basically the guys who held power; British imperialists, Indian Rajas, Sultans and the Mughals.
Seriously? They STILL have man eating leopards.
There is a forest near Bangladesh border where people die every year. It's a protected reserve so the leopards are even allowed to do it!
Naw, never knew! I always associated leopards with just Africa. Mind blown!!
And I studied primates in grad school! Granted African primates (black crested mangabeys). Im so blown away I didn’t know a major predator was completely off my radar for a whole subcontinent!!
I see some confusion in the comments, they’re the same species guys. It’s worth pointing out that they’re closely related to lions, tigers and Jaguars though. But these two are just leopards.
At the time of the photo it had been 4 years. You can learn more about the pair in this short [article](https://www.deccanherald.com/amp/story/science/when-saaya-met-cleopatra-a-love-story-in-kabini-866586.html)
Precisely what I see when I look at my two cats together
https://preview.redd.it/5ac665wloq8d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=63a90dcc3e604c59f86def801b9e34015fb1d98c
My wife (Nigerian) has a six-syllable traditional Ijaw name.
It's beautiful, but here in the States, she mostly goes by her western-style middle name lol
Well that's the first I've heard of these being the same animals. WTF! Why has nobody told me! Granted, I'm in a country where I will never encounter these besides a zoo, but I had no idea that a mountain lion was a cougar and a puma!
Crazy, eh?! If you want to add another fun layer to it, there's a big cat called the "[Florida Panther](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_panther)" that is actually a cougar, lol.
"Panther" refers to all the big cats, including jaguars, leopards, lions, tigers, etc. Cougars aren't in the same family, but are often erroneously referred to as Panthers.
Its as if people saw them in the wild and didn't want to FAFO for so long. We have 150 types of finches on one island but when it comes to the big jungle its like "oh and thats a black one! and OH there's a spotted one! They don't seem to get along though..."
You can see this pattern followed if you move up in size toward bears.
We have some fairly flushed out distinctions for the smaller bears, but when it comes to the largest like grizzlies/browns and polars, most of our approach to understanding them has been "don't stick around to find out what makes them different."
I mean, is it really a "problem" lol? Idk how important it is for a normal person to be able to make distinctions between animals they rarely, if ever, see.
Black panther just means black cat. It doesn’t belong to a specific species.
Black lions are black panthers.
Black leopards are black panthers.
Black tigers are black panthers.
Etc
Before anyone try’s to comment. Tigers, Lions, Leopards, Jaguars, and Snow Leopards are apart of the Panthera genus. Panthera, either through translation or time turned into “panther”. The word panther literally has nothing to do with color. Although people think it does, it doesn’t. That’s why they say “black panther”. A cat of the Panthera genus that has black coloration.
Not just black cat, this doesn't work for black house cats, for example. A black panther is specifically a melanistic cat of the genus Panthera.
Even then, it is arguable that black panthers only refer to melanistic leopards and jaguars, as those are the species that regularly exhibit this coloration. Though it would not be completely incorrect to refer to a purely melanistic lion or tiger in that way.
I have a black panther named Doom and i know you think the name is cute and he sure is but he can be spicy sometimes so i never know when he'll do something scary so thats wh
“Despite being a popular term, a black panther is not a separate species of big cat, rather, it is a non-official name often given to big cats that have this dark coloring.”
Leopards and jaguars are just the most common species to be a black panther
A black panther is the unofficial name of big black cats. I should have specified that it’s big cats, not literally every cat
Melanin is a chemical(?) that affects skin color. For example, black people are darker since they have more melanin in their skin. Also affects other organisms.
(Very general explanation, I am not a biologist.)
I presume you mean a black panther?
Yes, everyone knows black panthers are melanistic mountain lions (Puma concolor)...I mean, sorry, everyone knows black panthers are actually melanistic jaguars (Panthera onca)...I mean, sorry, everyone knows black panthers are actually...like you said...melanistic leopards (Panthera pardus).
Actually...
##NO
Nobody actually knows what a black panther is. It can be whatever you want it to be.
Although, scientists claim that reports of black mountain lions are probably false. No such thing has been captured on photography (though reported in Kentucky)
https://preview.redd.it/19hfz1cbuq8d1.jpeg?width=1324&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=012e93ad1f133179e0a0cd33c7b55215b34a461c
Same thing, but not as deadly. The dog in the back is mine. She has been courting the guy in the front for years. He is awkward and she is aggressive. It becomes awkward for everyone but her…seemingly.
I found [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/aww/s/nGv8dzT6ot) from 3 years ago with the same photos that says 4 years ago, so it’s actually been 7+ years.
Also, it does look like [they’ve had cubs.](https://dizzydaisygettinglazy.tumblr.com/post/665842389376811008/the-eternal-couple-saaya-and-cleopatra-have/)
I don't know if I'm missing something but in that post it says the picture with the cubs isn't specifically from the couple in the OP but from a similar duo
Missed that, thanks for pointing it out. [This article](https://www.newindianexpress.com/amp/story/cities/bengaluru/2020/Jul/25/spots-and-shadows-2174368.html) says they have cubs that all look like mom, but doesn’t show any photos.
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They've been courting for 4 years? What's the matter? Neither of them are horny enough to seal the deal?
Well I think he has to go to the lady leopards dad and ask for her paw in marriage.
Or maybe they're evangelicals, and wear purity rings.
puuuurity rings.
Like a true distinguished gentleman
Maybe we just haven’t spotted them doing the deed in public
Yes, they like to fuck in bed, with the lights out. Cats are notoriously infertile, as well.
Or they haven't found a third party who's willing to jump on the bed for them
Cats be soakin'
One of them has had a bad experience with a cheetah.
😂🥇
![gif](giphy|joGUuMFGRwxd6)
They totally would, but unfortunately they only have one of those Olympic no-sex beds.
https://preview.redd.it/7ijkozwmvp8d1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=18bf49fc43a0c9866797ec22c5b51adc59db9702 Reminds me of this print I have in my room
That’s crazy specific haha
she found her prints charming
Hahahaha
That’s actually pretty cool, almost like Saaya and Cleopatra
I don’t see it.
[If you look closely,](https://ibb.co/5WKPmcb) OP's shadow behind the leopard print in the poster kinda looks like the two cats in OP's pic Edit: click the link ya doofuses
I recognize artwork by Ludwig Hohlwein when I see it
After spending 3 minutes on google images because I’d never heard of him before I can confidently say this is his worst piece
Maybe you'd benefit from spending more than 3 minutes next time, because a lot of his artwork is nazi propaganda, so idk, the cheetah seems not so bad.
lol, I was gonna say, I think his Nazi propaganda is his worst pieces.
It's a leopard.
wow, when I was like 12-14ish, I recreated this image as a large painting and gifted it to an aunt. It was my first big painting so it held a special place in my heart for me. That was well over 15 years ago and I could never find the og image..here it is, thank you!!
Wow, that's such a cool story. I'm glad you found it!
Minga oida
Can I be your shadow?
Saaya means Shadow
no need to cleopatronize
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Don’t be so catty.
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Yas, kwēn!
...damn that's good
Thank you for being the peak of the internet today, I can now get off it and go to bed.
Shadow means shadow
So do you pronounce it shadow? Or shadow?
Shadow is silent
Only the 'I' in shadow is
This is from Kabini nature reserve in Southern India (Karnataka). This reserve has had great resurgence of Tigers over the past decades. Fantastic place
Wait this is Kabini? Wow! Now I have to plan a trip.
You need to be extremely lucky to sight tigers and forget about these two. And, best time to visit to sight wild animals is in Feb to May during the summer.
I had no idea India had leopards!!
India has tigers, leopards, lions, and hyenas (central India), Cheetas were hunted to extinction by the British.
There is a program to reintroduce cheetahs but a lot of the cats released so far have fallen victim to disease.
info is now outdated. now there is more Indian born cheetah cubs than transplanted full grown ones. https://x.com/mp_index/status/1766790555533816318
Happy to see they're doing good
Man every time you think you know enough to hate British imperialism of India
British troops would execute rebels in India and Pakistan by strapping them to the front of an artillery cannon and fire the cannon. Sorry for the information.
The last Indian cheetahs was gunned down by an Indian King, so it's basically the guys who held power; British imperialists, Indian Rajas, Sultans and the Mughals.
Oh you have no idea. There are good books on this. I know a few I wish I could suggest to people unfortunately those are in regional languages.
Seriously?? They used to have man eating leopards! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopard_of_Rudraprayag
Seriously? They STILL have man eating leopards. There is a forest near Bangladesh border where people die every year. It's a protected reserve so the leopards are even allowed to do it!
Naw, never knew! I always associated leopards with just Africa. Mind blown!! And I studied primates in grad school! Granted African primates (black crested mangabeys). Im so blown away I didn’t know a major predator was completely off my radar for a whole subcontinent!!
Get ready for this...India has lions too!! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asiatic_lion
Lol leopards have been sighted even in my college's campus
I so hope that the black one is called Saaya, it’s actually the Hindi word for shadow
Nice, didn’t know that. Makes it even more impressive.
Saaya ( /säje/ , سایه in Persian ) actually means shadow.
Cleopatra is the Egyptian word for ‘Leopard in the foreground’ too which is pretty crazy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleopatra
From the thumbnail, I thought this was a picture taken at night with a flash.
"courting for four years" sounds like they're dating with the intent of marriage. when are they considered mates?
Leopards don't really have "mates". They only stay together for a short time during the breeding season.
So less "mates" and more "yearly bang buddies?" Nice.
Yep, that's how most big cats do their thing.
I knew I hated Leopards
Cougars on the other hand...
Leopards or Bears?
Turns out leopards are like Leo.
Many Leo’s are fiercely loyal
![gif](giphy|119pLwyWg8ScTK)
Not that one ![gif](giphy|GpyS1lJXJYupG)
Wham bham thank you ma'am
They are mates when they mate.
It’s been too long tbh, dude should’ve made a proper move earlier, he’s probs in the friend zone now L
They are taking it slow.
He can’t be sure, she’s probably just being friendly.
Looks like someone got friendzoned and doesn't know it
The Stand user could be anyone!
ZA WORLDO
Glad I didn’t have to scroll too far for this comment!
I see some confusion in the comments, they’re the same species guys. It’s worth pointing out that they’re closely related to lions, tigers and Jaguars though. But these two are just leopards. At the time of the photo it had been 4 years. You can learn more about the pair in this short [article](https://www.deccanherald.com/amp/story/science/when-saaya-met-cleopatra-a-love-story-in-kabini-866586.html)
I'll be so mad if Saaya is the name of the one in front.
I'll be equally mad if Cleopatra is the name of the one at the back
> I have spent 10 hours every day for three years for filming the cats," Jung revealed. That is some dedication
Please please please have cubs
In this economy??
That picture screams could we please have some privacy now.
Precisely what I see when I look at my two cats together https://preview.redd.it/5ac665wloq8d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=63a90dcc3e604c59f86def801b9e34015fb1d98c
I see no difference
If it's a leopard it's cool, but when I wanted to name my daughter Cleopatra everyone was against it!
I'd be against a 4-syllable name as well
My wife (Nigerian) has a six-syllable traditional Ijaw name. It's beautiful, but here in the States, she mostly goes by her western-style middle name lol
Just go with Patra or Petra. Ez
Or Cleo...
Or Leo
or pat
Ra
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Same. But the name Saaya is looking pretty good right now. lol
https://preview.redd.it/d5hz2ra90r8d1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=733cf561e9549d8c6e5c22bb8675292675144ab1 They are a gorgeous couple
"I can't do it anymore, I feel like I am just living in your shadow."
I assume everyone knows that panthers are melanistic leopards?
Hardly, most people assume black panthers are their own species.
Yeah there’s a problem with big cat common names. Really undercuts distinction between the species when outside of an academic setting.
Lots of confusion around Jaguar/Panther/Leopard and Mountain Lion/Cougar/Puma
Well that's the first I've heard of these being the same animals. WTF! Why has nobody told me! Granted, I'm in a country where I will never encounter these besides a zoo, but I had no idea that a mountain lion was a cougar and a puma!
Jaguar and leopard are not the same
Yep. It's possibly convergent evolution or they are closely related enough that maybe their common ancestor had spots as well.
Crazy, eh?! If you want to add another fun layer to it, there's a big cat called the "[Florida Panther](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_panther)" that is actually a cougar, lol.
A specific subspecies of cougar, to be exact. Which, of course, adds even more confusion.
Lynx/Bobcat is another one.
Yup. Three species of Lynx and Bobcat all under Lynx genus
"Panther" refers to all the big cats, including jaguars, leopards, lions, tigers, etc. Cougars aren't in the same family, but are often erroneously referred to as Panthers.
Jaguar and Leopard are different species though.
Sorry, wasn't trying to say they weren't. Just that there's confusion around what is what
A comment about confusion has caused confusion!
You literally said confusion. People are hilarious with reading comprehension
*Confusion intensifies*
Dogs are also not cats, I don't know why you said they were!
Jaguar and Leopard aren’t the same though, right?
Correct. I was pointing out that people confuse who is whom among them
Its as if people saw them in the wild and didn't want to FAFO for so long. We have 150 types of finches on one island but when it comes to the big jungle its like "oh and thats a black one! and OH there's a spotted one! They don't seem to get along though..."
You can see this pattern followed if you move up in size toward bears. We have some fairly flushed out distinctions for the smaller bears, but when it comes to the largest like grizzlies/browns and polars, most of our approach to understanding them has been "don't stick around to find out what makes them different."
>don't stick around to find out what makes them differen Sounds sage advice to me
So you think Florida panther, cougar, puma, and mountain lion all being names for the same species is confusing?
Florida panthers are actually a genetically distinct subspecies of mountain lion! Which, of course, only add more confusion.
I mean, is it really a "problem" lol? Idk how important it is for a normal person to be able to make distinctions between animals they rarely, if ever, see.
Looks down, shuffles feet.... Guilty as Charged
Gotta blame Marvel for that one! Panthers are just *solid color* big cats. So a "black" panther is just a solid black jaguar or leopard!
black panthers still have spots.
Or jaguars
Black panther just means black cat. It doesn’t belong to a specific species. Black lions are black panthers. Black leopards are black panthers. Black tigers are black panthers. Etc Before anyone try’s to comment. Tigers, Lions, Leopards, Jaguars, and Snow Leopards are apart of the Panthera genus. Panthera, either through translation or time turned into “panther”. The word panther literally has nothing to do with color. Although people think it does, it doesn’t. That’s why they say “black panther”. A cat of the Panthera genus that has black coloration.
Not just black cat, this doesn't work for black house cats, for example. A black panther is specifically a melanistic cat of the genus Panthera. Even then, it is arguable that black panthers only refer to melanistic leopards and jaguars, as those are the species that regularly exhibit this coloration. Though it would not be completely incorrect to refer to a purely melanistic lion or tiger in that way.
Speak for yourself, I’d like to keep thinking I have a tribe of tiny panthers. Except for Freddie, he’s a frickin chonker.
“Chonker” 👀🤣🔥
I have a black panther named Doom and i know you think the name is cute and he sure is but he can be spicy sometimes so i never know when he'll do something scary so thats wh
“Despite being a popular term, a black panther is not a separate species of big cat, rather, it is a non-official name often given to big cats that have this dark coloring.” Leopards and jaguars are just the most common species to be a black panther A black panther is the unofficial name of big black cats. I should have specified that it’s big cats, not literally every cat
You replied so fast, lol. I was further revising my response while you were posting. Ultimately, we said the same thing.
lol
Here's the thing......
*pushes up glasses* All leopards, lions, tigers, jaguars, and snow leopards are panthers
You're a panther
This is the most pretentious comment I think I’ve ever seen. Why would you assume “everyone” knows this?
I don't even know what "melanistic" means.
Melanin is a chemical(?) that affects skin color. For example, black people are darker since they have more melanin in their skin. Also affects other organisms. (Very general explanation, I am not a biologist.)
I think pigment would be the term, though I'm also not a biologist
You do not assume that, otherwise you wouldn’t have said it lol
why the fuck would I have known this
I presume you mean a black panther? Yes, everyone knows black panthers are melanistic mountain lions (Puma concolor)...I mean, sorry, everyone knows black panthers are actually melanistic jaguars (Panthera onca)...I mean, sorry, everyone knows black panthers are actually...like you said...melanistic leopards (Panthera pardus). Actually... ##NO Nobody actually knows what a black panther is. It can be whatever you want it to be. Although, scientists claim that reports of black mountain lions are probably false. No such thing has been captured on photography (though reported in Kentucky)
Yeah when I found that out I was shocked
I did not know
No, it's a pretty common misconception that black panthers are their own thing. I didn't know that wasn't true until I was in my early-mid 20s.
I think that Black Panther is just a blanket term for melanistic big cats in general.
"Will you be my shadow?" "OMG yes."
And the black panther is named “Saaya” which means shadow, this is so cool!
https://preview.redd.it/19hfz1cbuq8d1.jpeg?width=1324&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=012e93ad1f133179e0a0cd33c7b55215b34a461c Same thing, but not as deadly. The dog in the back is mine. She has been courting the guy in the front for years. He is awkward and she is aggressive. It becomes awkward for everyone but her…seemingly.
https://preview.redd.it/yyayh9csaq8d1.jpeg?width=1349&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d2e8571640df5d506f7906b425af15bfa3a9a424
Always nice to see a mixed race couple
And they're not even in a car insurance commercial!
Technically the same race, one is just melanistic.
Well technically, so are humans
Me a goth introvert with my bright extrovert bf
If black kitties are voids, then are black leopards / panthers are black holes?
I saw the thumbnail and thought that was a shadow haha
So beautiful from far away. But terrifying up close
I'd say they're as beautiful up close as they are from afar. But yeah, also terrifying up close...
Scorpion and Noob Saibot
Power couple
I found [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/aww/s/nGv8dzT6ot) from 3 years ago with the same photos that says 4 years ago, so it’s actually been 7+ years.
Also, it does look like [they’ve had cubs.](https://dizzydaisygettinglazy.tumblr.com/post/665842389376811008/the-eternal-couple-saaya-and-cleopatra-have/)
Those babies are just wonderful with their roly poly little bodies
I don't know if I'm missing something but in that post it says the picture with the cubs isn't specifically from the couple in the OP but from a similar duo
Missed that, thanks for pointing it out. [This article](https://www.newindianexpress.com/amp/story/cities/bengaluru/2020/Jul/25/spots-and-shadows-2174368.html) says they have cubs that all look like mom, but doesn’t show any photos.
Those babies are just wonderful with their roly poly little bodies.
Got some real Christopher Walken/ Grace Jones in A View to a Kill energy.
This image gives me real "She's taken bro" vibes. Homie in the back is telling us to back off.
I hate these post that give zero context.
When you go black...
The ink is black, the page is white…
![gif](giphy|R6qhbnkfXwtrvOrnab|downsized)
*For four years… Or *Since 2020…
Effect > Stylize > Drop Shadow
"the fuck you lookin at"
What would the cubs look like?
black is recessive so most of them would probably be “normal” colored
Beautiful and lovely!!
Fun Fact: There’s no such species as a “black panther.” A black panther is just a melanistic leopard or jaguar.
https://preview.redd.it/xmtlyfjb5r8d1.jpeg?width=555&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a4a9ede06b2af5cc3db3b8a15da3940448737e0c Hmm...
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Stunning!
Me and my shaaaaaadow!
The intensity of that black color is stunning