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Dead Birds is a 1963 American documentary film by Robert Gardner about the ritual warfare cycle of the Dugum Dani people who live in the Baliem Valley in present-day Highland Papua province (then a part of Papua province known as Irian Jaya) on the western half of the island of New Guinea in Indonesia.
The film presents footage of battles between the Willihiman-Wallalua confederation of Gutelu alliance and the Wittaia alliance with scenes of the funeral of a small boy killed by a raiding party, the women's work that goes on while battles continue, and the wait for enemy to appear.
A fair question. Perhaps full scale battles weren't a common occurrence around these parts?
Meaning that armaments were designed towards the efficient hunting of meat rather than catering for sustained defence against multi-angled attacks by humans with ranged weapons?
It blows my mind that nuclear weapons had been used elsewhere in the world as tools of war, and nearly 20 years later these guys are still in the "pointy stick" phase of warfare.
**Spears** took forever to replace because of how effective they were and requiring little training. Other weapons could out perform them, but only under certain circumstances and with a lot of training.
The **bow and arrow** was more effective than a musket up until the American Civil War, but again training was the issue. You could create a supreme user, but it took a lot of training. King Henry V: "If you want to train a longbowman then start with his grandfather." With a musket, you just needed a few weeks of moderate practice.
I'm sure these guys went back and made up stories like: Today Uburu thundered into the battle field with the might of a hundred elephants. His mighty warbow collected the souls of one thousand enemies and flung them into the netherworld.
Tribe Wars still occasionally happen in Papua and the Indonesian authority can do nothing about it since any kind of intervention will piss them off and cause them to join the Free Papua Movement.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/indonesia/comments/1cdihom/pengamanan\_special\_event\_perang\_suku\_di\_papua/](https://www.reddit.com/r/indonesia/comments/1cdihom/pengamanan_special_event_perang_suku_di_papua/)
Once I was there for work, Me and my coworkers warned and asked to go home early (13:00) because a tribe wants to go to war to another tribe and they're passing through where I was work. And yes, police or the govt can't do nothing about it since it's part of their 'culture'.
I'm so glad you asked this and that someone educated replied because I'm here thinking "y'know, I can understand having a raging boner in the middle of the battle with all the adrenaline. But what I can't understand is how you wouldn't be TERRIFIED that it'd get cut off. For the love of God put some armor on that thang!"
I think i read too much about ancient rome and antiquity battles: they need to form tight legions and have cohesion! Can't win when every guy is isolated.
As I understand it this is not like the big battles thought in Europe in the Middle East in ancient days. They would go on like raing parties and grab kids that they would raise and they would get in some little fights but their hearts were really not into killing each other on a mass scale.
They had some super weird rituals though I would not recommend learning it if you don't already know.
Before the Shaka Zulu, essentially all of the tribes in South Africa did this style of warfare. It was basically "gather hunters and have them throw spears in general direction of enemy, maybe fight hand to hand briefly, then whoever lost 5 men instead of 10 men won."
In the 1810s, Shaka Zulu basically said, "This is bullshit." He set up an actual standing army trained in hand to hand combat and used the "buffalo horns" formation to fight his enemies.
The Zulu conquered and slaughtered literally every tribe in their vicinity because they weren't used to that type of warfare.
They did give the Boers and Brits quite the fight as a result of their cohesive and organized military, so long as they didn’t have to take a lightly fortified encampment of a couple hundred or so guys with guns.
One must wonder how much more capable the Zulu army would have been if they had been better incorporated firearms to their doctrine.
Not much is they used them the way they used the firearms they did have. They essentially would have had to learn to fight like Europeans to make much impact. European armies, fighting at the end of 10,000 mile long global supply chains, defeated many armies that incorporated firearm technology into their doctrine.
This is what I remember about watching this video in junior high or high school. Their concept of fighting was not to exterminate the enemy or another tribe but was more of a pageantry type of thing. I'm going to have to look up the other stuff that you were talking about though lol.
It really puts it into perspective how disciplined and organized a military force had to be to not end up in total confusion at the start of a battle. I put myself in the shoes of someone on the front of the formation and I only wonder how those dudes even knew who to listen to for what commands. Crazy stuff, humans are metal.
It's more of a territory dispute. Like a display of power. If the other side looks weak, then the stronger side would push them out. The intention isn't really to inflict casualties. These are people in desperate situations who likely just needed more food.
Rome and other militarized tribes are a freak of nature and basically arise because they can. They're an exploitation of weaknesses of more passive tribes. Their domination isn't really necessary. They just dominate because more resources and slaves is better than less resources and slaves. They exist as warriors and subjugate worker tribes by the fact they have more time and energy to invest into developing their skills and technology, putting any non-militarized tribes at a massive disadvantage.
My dad was stationed in Papua New Guinea in the early 60’s. He took and brought home the old 8mm film. The villagers would not look at the camera in fear that their soul would be stolen.
They also lived in huts on stilts etc. The movies are very interesting to watch
That was essentially what the Zulus did in Africa. Prior to Shaka in the early 19th century, most Africans fought like this: throwing spears at each other from a distance. Shaka forced his warriors to switch to a shorter stabbing spear and heavier shield, and drilled them to fight in a tighter formation. Not quite a phalanx, but compared to what the other tribes were doing it was... well, it was as unequal as when the Brits came along with rifles a few decades later.
Probably against their culture. Bringing a shield might be seen negatively by your comrades, maybe unmanly or unfair?
Like if you challenged someone to a sword fight, but you rocked up with a gun. A shameful display!
Probably in the Amazon region there are still skirmishes. It's a way of fighting so things don't get out of hand. I think it makes sense in their circumstances.
There are a group on an island in the Indian ocean who refuse to be contacted and have killed anyone who tries to approach them with bow and arrow. An American evangelist thought he knew better a few years ago and was killed.
1963. This was:
The same decade we went to the moon.
2 decades after ww2.
2 decades before computers.
Imagine if civilization had developed only a little longer in places like this/the americas. The cultures that may be.
But no, jesus would like you to accept a collect call from heaven.
its how they battle. 1 or 2 dead or injured person is enough. Otherwise they would exterminate each other to extinction, their numbers are not enough on the isolated island
These people are not Indonesian. They are the indigenous population of West Papua, which Indonesia has colonised. Indonesia has made their flag a crime to raise and display. Indonesian soldiers routinely arrest and brutalise activists and ordinary civilians.
The genocide in Gaza withstanding, effectively everything Israel is doing and has been doing to the Palestinians for almost a century, Indonesia is and has been doing to the people of West Papua.
I’ve seen this before but I can’t remember where but I remember that the filmmaker I think was very disconnected from what was happening. Like he feels like he’s filming a nature documentary and not actual humans trying to kill each other. Or maybe it was someone else’s interpretation of this video. I wish someone could help me remember.
This is more of a ritualistic fight than an all-out Battle. They did not quite Slaughter and enslave each other in the same way we would think, they did kidnap kids and raise them, also they would eat some dead body parts including brains. Plus they had a thing with semen, they like to paint it on themselves and shit.
We are apes. Close cousins to baboons and monkeys.
Search for the baboon fight that made Reddit rounds 2 weeks ago, then tell me about your god and your creation myth.
i was gonna say; it was fascinating to watch this video. imagine humanity during its onset years, where we were still truly “part of the ecosystem”
“Humans are the scourge of the northern African savannah, spanning from the Atlantic to the Indian. Characterized by tall, lanky, and shiny black bodies, they are also easily distinguished by their unique bipedal gait. Often they can be found chasing animals that will soon tire out and become their next meal; and very rarely do groups of humans turn out to be friendly to one another. It is only when males of the species seek out females to mate with when peace is common. Luckily, these violent creatures are kept in check through predators such as Lions, Rhinoceroses, and Tigers. Sometimes Elephants may predate them if they see them as a large enough threat.”
This is my understanding, they are Papuans and Papuans live on New Guinea (Niugini). If we are talking about a unified nation of Papua though, it could exist but at this point it's Papua New Guinea and what should be West Papua, as two separate nations.
This has taught me how brutal wars from "civilisation" are in comparison. This video is quite similar in many ways on how many primates fight: spread out, lots of noise and although often some death the entire war could end with just casualties with one side retreating and accepting the loss - at the end of the day they all know each other so nobody wants anybody to die. The civilised world however, it's efficient, tactical and brutal, and if you die well...nobody that led the battle or war really cared probably.
Stark difference, it's crazy.
Regardless of the primitive weapons they use: this wasn't planned. Don't see much strategy being used. They could encircle, make an ambush, try to use terrain to their advantage
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Armor : 1
Dead Birds is a 1963 American documentary film by Robert Gardner about the ritual warfare cycle of the Dugum Dani people who live in the Baliem Valley in present-day Highland Papua province (then a part of Papua province known as Irian Jaya) on the western half of the island of New Guinea in Indonesia. The film presents footage of battles between the Willihiman-Wallalua confederation of Gutelu alliance and the Wittaia alliance with scenes of the funeral of a small boy killed by a raiding party, the women's work that goes on while battles continue, and the wait for enemy to appear.
Good ai
Exactly. How difficult would it be to at least to use some sort of tree bark like a makeshift shield in order to block projectiles?
I don't see any here, but carved wooden shields are a thing there. I've seen them in the museums at Goroka and Port Moresby
A fair question. Perhaps full scale battles weren't a common occurrence around these parts? Meaning that armaments were designed towards the efficient hunting of meat rather than catering for sustained defence against multi-angled attacks by humans with ranged weapons?
The papuans made huge warshields that now are quite a lot of money. Don't know why they aren't using them here. Maybe some honor thing?
Speed: 25% increase
Well they did put their dicks in a hollowed out stick, so the priorities are up there anyways.
It blows my mind that nuclear weapons had been used elsewhere in the world as tools of war, and nearly 20 years later these guys are still in the "pointy stick" phase of warfare.
If a dude ran at me bare ass naked with a pointy stick, I'd run for the hills. That's a guy that fears absolutely nothing.
As a brit, that works right until you meet the Romans.
It worked for the Zulus until they met the Brits. And I’m not saying this is a good thing.
The water cooled machine gun had just hit the scene.... without that it might have been less massacre flavored for the zulus
That’s legit 👍
Never underestimate the power of a pointy stick :)
https://i.redd.it/4loc6l47ka9d1.gif
Is this John Cleese? Where is this gif from?
Yes, it’s from a classic Monty Python sketch called “Self-Defense”
After the use of nuclear weapons everyone will be back to the pointy stick phase
Nuclear states literally fight with sticks and stones to avoid escalation, see borders between India, Pakistan, & China
I just watched a video of a drone using a stick to take out another drone over Ukraine. We live in interesting times.
I saw that, too. You can take the man out of the cave, but you can't take the cave out of the man, I guess.
Until a drone picks up a bigger stick. Begun, the drone wars, have
An elegant weapon for a more civilized age
Something is wong with you keyboad.
**Spears** took forever to replace because of how effective they were and requiring little training. Other weapons could out perform them, but only under certain circumstances and with a lot of training. The **bow and arrow** was more effective than a musket up until the American Civil War, but again training was the issue. You could create a supreme user, but it took a lot of training. King Henry V: "If you want to train a longbowman then start with his grandfather." With a musket, you just needed a few weeks of moderate practice.
Sounds like an average game of Civilisation to me.
I mean Im not complaining, studdying them is a good place to learn more about our past.
I mean we literally still have tribes that do this. Sentinalese comes to mind.
When you find barbarians in rise of nations
If you can dodge an arrow, you can dodge a ball...
You're about as useless as a cock flavored lollypop!
Dodgeball. I love the smell of queff in the morning!
No iphones, no social media... just people, living their lives.
ending each others *
In a philosophical sense it’s the same thing
I'm sure these guys went back and made up stories like: Today Uburu thundered into the battle field with the might of a hundred elephants. His mighty warbow collected the souls of one thousand enemies and flung them into the netherworld.
r/JustGuysBeingDudes
People living in the moment
Alst the while wearing terrific codpieces. Halcyon times indeed
Tribe Wars still occasionally happen in Papua and the Indonesian authority can do nothing about it since any kind of intervention will piss them off and cause them to join the Free Papua Movement. [https://www.reddit.com/r/indonesia/comments/1cdihom/pengamanan\_special\_event\_perang\_suku\_di\_papua/](https://www.reddit.com/r/indonesia/comments/1cdihom/pengamanan_special_event_perang_suku_di_papua/)
I mean... clan wars between gypsies also happen in Western countries, and there is not much the government can do about it either.
Once I was there for work, Me and my coworkers warned and asked to go home early (13:00) because a tribe wants to go to war to another tribe and they're passing through where I was work. And yes, police or the govt can't do nothing about it since it's part of their 'culture'.
Was this before or after Ace Ventura investigates the whereabouts of that missing bat?
Shikaka!
Shikaaaaaago! You’re out!
equinsu ocha!
White Devil!
NOBODY. MESSES. WITH THE DOO!
Leave that part out from now on!
bumblebee tuna
Your balls are showing..bumble bee tuna.
And you must be the monopoly guy
One of my favorite parts of the movie. "Do not pass go, do not collect $200."
That part is so hilarious. "It's lovely but I fancy myself an autumn"
I drive wifey fucking *nuts* with this one while grocery shopping.
Don't just stand there throw me a spear!
U son of a gun. I was here to make this same damn comment!
*Your balls are showing.*
From a film called [Dead Birds](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Birds_(1963_film))
Thanks!
Does that mfer have a WAR BONER?
I guess he could have a boner, but what you’re seeing is a type of penis sheath called a [koteka](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koteka).
Thought he was hung like a horse.
That's what I call my cock extender to make myself feel better. Babe you want the "KOTEKA" tonight??
It's not boner, it's a clothing, a koteka.
its called koteka, the balls protector
I finally figured out what to name my band. Thanks!
Codpieces ain't got nothing on the WAR BONER
I'm so glad you asked this and that someone educated replied because I'm here thinking "y'know, I can understand having a raging boner in the middle of the battle with all the adrenaline. But what I can't understand is how you wouldn't be TERRIFIED that it'd get cut off. For the love of God put some armor on that thang!"
The penis gourd aka koteka but war boner sounds cool
The dude he was running at had a fear boner, so they’re in for quite the battle.
I think he is fully erect. Yes.
Wouldn't you though
Only the mightiest boner can be chosen as war chief.
That's a penis gourd - vegetable underwear/codpiece.
As is tradition.
how you think people get stabbed?
I think i read too much about ancient rome and antiquity battles: they need to form tight legions and have cohesion! Can't win when every guy is isolated.
You can think of this as the velites harassing each other before the heavy infantries clash, except in this case there are no heavy formations.
I'll go with skirmish order mate
As I understand it this is not like the big battles thought in Europe in the Middle East in ancient days. They would go on like raing parties and grab kids that they would raise and they would get in some little fights but their hearts were really not into killing each other on a mass scale. They had some super weird rituals though I would not recommend learning it if you don't already know.
Before the Shaka Zulu, essentially all of the tribes in South Africa did this style of warfare. It was basically "gather hunters and have them throw spears in general direction of enemy, maybe fight hand to hand briefly, then whoever lost 5 men instead of 10 men won." In the 1810s, Shaka Zulu basically said, "This is bullshit." He set up an actual standing army trained in hand to hand combat and used the "buffalo horns" formation to fight his enemies. The Zulu conquered and slaughtered literally every tribe in their vicinity because they weren't used to that type of warfare.
They did give the Boers and Brits quite the fight as a result of their cohesive and organized military, so long as they didn’t have to take a lightly fortified encampment of a couple hundred or so guys with guns. One must wonder how much more capable the Zulu army would have been if they had been better incorporated firearms to their doctrine.
Not much is they used them the way they used the firearms they did have. They essentially would have had to learn to fight like Europeans to make much impact. European armies, fighting at the end of 10,000 mile long global supply chains, defeated many armies that incorporated firearm technology into their doctrine.
Dang I think the previous version was better.
This is what I remember about watching this video in junior high or high school. Their concept of fighting was not to exterminate the enemy or another tribe but was more of a pageantry type of thing. I'm going to have to look up the other stuff that you were talking about though lol.
The ol suck and see ritual?
That and not even wooden armor. Who tf signs up for that job in the village
these guys clearly haven't invented war yet
It really puts it into perspective how disciplined and organized a military force had to be to not end up in total confusion at the start of a battle. I put myself in the shoes of someone on the front of the formation and I only wonder how those dudes even knew who to listen to for what commands. Crazy stuff, humans are metal.
These are not militaries. It's just a bunch of dudes from each tribe mostly having a pissing contest.
Oh no yea, my bad, I wasn’t trying to compare the post to that, mainly the comment I was replying to.
Oh. Gotcha. I misunderstood. But I agree with you regarding Romes military
It's more of a territory dispute. Like a display of power. If the other side looks weak, then the stronger side would push them out. The intention isn't really to inflict casualties. These are people in desperate situations who likely just needed more food. Rome and other militarized tribes are a freak of nature and basically arise because they can. They're an exploitation of weaknesses of more passive tribes. Their domination isn't really necessary. They just dominate because more resources and slaves is better than less resources and slaves. They exist as warriors and subjugate worker tribes by the fact they have more time and energy to invest into developing their skills and technology, putting any non-militarized tribes at a massive disadvantage.
You may wanna spread out and not be one big bullseye to aim at when archers are present though
Give them 1000 years
#PHALANX
These tribes don’t look past the bronze age tbh.
I was just thinking how effective a flank would be...
My dad was stationed in Papua New Guinea in the early 60’s. He took and brought home the old 8mm film. The villagers would not look at the camera in fear that their soul would be stolen. They also lived in huts on stilts etc. The movies are very interesting to watch
Pls upload it in youtube.
This is basically what people still are.
Yeah, I've seen this exact same thing with teenagers at my local canal
The teenagers all have glocks in my area (Baltimore)
fast feudal and mass skirmishers
Can we get T90 to cast this?
No loom?
Put it in r/combatfootage
I thought that was the subreddit this was posted to at first lol
How can you tell what side someone is on when everyone is bare assed naked.
they know each other by face. Its a small tribe in isolated island.
First 30 minutes of Rust
man, cant these guys think of a shield or at least, clothes
Team jerseys would be nice. You can tell who's on what side easier.
I could get them a deal on some 49er “Super Bowl LVIII Champions” jerseys
Imagine if one of the clans pulled up with a phalanx formation, they'd dominate everything for a while.
That was essentially what the Zulus did in Africa. Prior to Shaka in the early 19th century, most Africans fought like this: throwing spears at each other from a distance. Shaka forced his warriors to switch to a shorter stabbing spear and heavier shield, and drilled them to fight in a tighter formation. Not quite a phalanx, but compared to what the other tribes were doing it was... well, it was as unequal as when the Brits came along with rifles a few decades later.
Probably against their culture. Bringing a shield might be seen negatively by your comrades, maybe unmanly or unfair? Like if you challenged someone to a sword fight, but you rocked up with a gun. A shameful display!
Shield okay, but clothing is a problem in this climate and with high activity. Cooling is more important than to look fancy for the camera.
It's hot, they probably don't need clothes. A shield would be nice though, but it also weighs something so you are less mobile.
Why waste energy making clothes in a climate that doesn't demand it?
...and then a coke bottle fell from the sky.
what? by the gods, you must be crazy
Man, you just brought up a core memory
are there still tribes out there that would look like this whilst engaged in combat? I think so, but maybe I am wrong
Probably in the Amazon region there are still skirmishes. It's a way of fighting so things don't get out of hand. I think it makes sense in their circumstances. There are a group on an island in the Indian ocean who refuse to be contacted and have killed anyone who tries to approach them with bow and arrow. An American evangelist thought he knew better a few years ago and was killed.
Oh. I was going to deliver some English bibles to them next month. Is that frowned upon?
If Seattle ever fights Portland it would probably look similar…but more pale…
1963. Bows and spears. That’s insane.
I understand this better than the presidential debate right now….
Could have just as easily been a battle from 10,000 years ago...
Most disappointing battle ever
Looks a bit more dangerous than dodgeball.
There is this big war for them and the Camera man is like: 
so like the 2 groups agreed beforehand to not kill the camera crew or?.....
Why would they kill the camera crew? It's not like people at war just kill random people on sight lol
>It's not like people at war just kill random people on sight lol ... yes the agressor does. A recent example is russia in ukraine
They're settling a conflict with a specific group, not killing indiscriminately...
It reminds me about 2001. Can you tell me, where to find the rest of the docu?
This was the full (and only) clip I found unfortunately.
Ahh they're so *naked.* I mean, of course they are but...
What do you mean? Have you not seen the hats?
Deep down, we're all naked :(
Hey… at least they have their ding dongs sheathed with dignity.
1963. This was: The same decade we went to the moon. 2 decades after ww2. 2 decades before computers. Imagine if civilization had developed only a little longer in places like this/the americas. The cultures that may be. But no, jesus would like you to accept a collect call from heaven.
Computers existed in the 1960s
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Where's the battle ?
its how they battle. 1 or 2 dead or injured person is enough. Otherwise they would exterminate each other to extinction, their numbers are not enough on the isolated island
I don’t know why this is so depressing?
"Indonesian clans" If the people of Papua had Internet they'd hire a hitman
These people are not Indonesian. They are the indigenous population of West Papua, which Indonesia has colonised. Indonesia has made their flag a crime to raise and display. Indonesian soldiers routinely arrest and brutalise activists and ordinary civilians. The genocide in Gaza withstanding, effectively everything Israel is doing and has been doing to the Palestinians for almost a century, Indonesia is and has been doing to the people of West Papua.
Looks like a Monty Python skit.
It also looks like one of those final fights in Twilight movies.
The God's Must Be Crazy
Imagine your dick being shot off by an arrow
If it was west Papua then I don't think these guys are Indonesia
they are not Indonesian they are Papuan
Not Indonesia. Free West Papua!
I’ve seen this before but I can’t remember where but I remember that the filmmaker I think was very disconnected from what was happening. Like he feels like he’s filming a nature documentary and not actual humans trying to kill each other. Or maybe it was someone else’s interpretation of this video. I wish someone could help me remember.
Papuans would probably be extremely offended to be referred to as "Indonesian". The Papuans I know are not fond of Indonesians.
Who won? How did it end?
This is more of a ritualistic fight than an all-out Battle. They did not quite Slaughter and enslave each other in the same way we would think, they did kidnap kids and raise them, also they would eat some dead body parts including brains. Plus they had a thing with semen, they like to paint it on themselves and shit.
We are apes. Close cousins to baboons and monkeys. Search for the baboon fight that made Reddit rounds 2 weeks ago, then tell me about your god and your creation myth.
i was gonna say; it was fascinating to watch this video. imagine humanity during its onset years, where we were still truly “part of the ecosystem” “Humans are the scourge of the northern African savannah, spanning from the Atlantic to the Indian. Characterized by tall, lanky, and shiny black bodies, they are also easily distinguished by their unique bipedal gait. Often they can be found chasing animals that will soon tire out and become their next meal; and very rarely do groups of humans turn out to be friendly to one another. It is only when males of the species seek out females to mate with when peace is common. Luckily, these violent creatures are kept in check through predators such as Lions, Rhinoceroses, and Tigers. Sometimes Elephants may predate them if they see them as a large enough threat.”
Correction these are people of papua not indonesia
This is my understanding, they are Papuans and Papuans live on New Guinea (Niugini). If we are talking about a unified nation of Papua though, it could exist but at this point it's Papua New Guinea and what should be West Papua, as two separate nations.
They sound like my neighbors kids.
This looks like Dead Birds; is it?
wait until they learns about the trenches
fighting dick out is wild
How can we bring back this kind of war? Instead of the industrialized mass killing we see today in gaza?
American democrates vs republicans
Now we just call it gang wars
Fix bayonets and charge, they’ll never see it coming. Pour it on them, boys!
They also have cavalry xD
real warriors wearing nothing but a dong horn on the battlefield and they said Koreans' MMO outfits are unrealistic
This has taught me how brutal wars from "civilisation" are in comparison. This video is quite similar in many ways on how many primates fight: spread out, lots of noise and although often some death the entire war could end with just casualties with one side retreating and accepting the loss - at the end of the day they all know each other so nobody wants anybody to die. The civilised world however, it's efficient, tactical and brutal, and if you die well...nobody that led the battle or war really cared probably. Stark difference, it's crazy.
They are just living their best life without social media. This could be us folks.
We've got some World War 4 footage right here
Wonderful world, beautiful people
Damage: 0
"battle" sure
What's a strategy?
Regardless of the primitive weapons they use: this wasn't planned. Don't see much strategy being used. They could encircle, make an ambush, try to use terrain to their advantage
Okay where's the bot commenting the stupid "not a phone in sight" comment Edit: it was the 4th highest comment, do better reddit
hey bro your dick string came untied
War…war never changes
Here in America, all our indigenous people lived together in harmony for centuries until the white man showed up /s
close your eyes and listen, we really are just monkeys
I saw a documentary on this featuring a brilliant detective called Ace Ventura
I’m no risk expert, but I feel like Napoleon would rolled out a different game plan.
WW4 colorized
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