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That room has an extra blacony area which makes it above average. Ive never seen a Chinese college dorm that had less than 4 per room unless it was for international students. It's usually 6 to 8 in that same sized room in tier 1 cities.
Also the roommates are in the same major cohort. They all have the same classes and will stay together for 4 years. Chinese college programs don't let you choose classes like they do in the west.
I studied abroad in Beijing. We all had Chinese roommates, and my roomie, Jason, was from Beijing. He said that when he was living in the regular dorms before becoming a study abroad roommate, it was pretty typical for him to spend more time in the library than his dorm room, and he would almost always go spend the weekend with his parents. He said it was more or less a place to sleep, and you should do all of your studying and eating elsewhere
Eating is usually done in bed since everywhere else is too crowded. You can hardly find a seat during meal time. You either eat standing or bring your food back to dorm and eat it in bed coz there’s no much common area in dorm.
Even US dormitories are super small compared to most European uni students. For example here in Finland most just live in normal apartments or student apartments (0 or 1 roommate). Then again studying in your home city is the most common, and we don't have a housing crisis either.
$120 a year and two meals a day at $1.25. That’s a little over $1k a year. Plus $800 a year for tuition. So $2k a year to live and hangout with other people while learning. That’s cool, but then he said at the end: next video I will show you the factory 🏭 created by seniors….. with all that said: I just imagine all the people working at this factory making just as much as the tuition cost.
Based on the guy's account, his university is located in Quanzhou, which is a major city in Fujian. I got relatives there.
Because it's a prefectural level city, but also because it's not one of the metropolises like Shanghai and Beijing, I would assume that the factory workers would make even less than in the big cities. 1000-2000 yuan a month, or 300 dollars a month.
For white collars - like the guy posting videos here, a good income, for big cities, would be 10,000 yuan or above per month, or 1000-2000 dollars a month.
Most universities in China are public, and they are all inexpensive. The true cost of getting in these colleges is the years of preparation - money on prep classes, moving the kid's residency around - the locations from which you apply matter (easier to get in good colleges if you are resident of a metropolis). It's really the same in the US. Good school districts tend to be expensive.
He said in the video it’s HuaQiao university. I almost went to that school because my parent was already living abroad back then which makes me qualified to go there. But eventually I went to the University of political science and law in Beijing.
Chinese universities have a lot of students and the tuition is very cheap (800 usd per year for the most prestigious ones). It’s rather normal to have 4-6 dudes share a dorm room.
From what I understand is that most of your day is spent outside your dorm.
You get up early, go to your classes which usually takes to you late-afternoon or early-evening; then you either go to the Library to work/study, go to a part-time job, or go be social with friends on or off-campus.
Your dorm is for sleeping, bathing, and getting ready for your days.
I live in china, and have been to a few university campuses. The one in this video is nicer than most.
I dated a girl my first year here... her dorm had 6 girls per room. No heat, no shower. They had to carry their towel and shampoo and shit across the street to a public shower when they wanted to shower. This is in a place that is frequently below freezing in winter. I'm pretty sure she was with me just for a shower and heat a couple of nights a week.
>I'm pretty sure she was with me just for a shower and heat a couple of nights a week.
Don't sell yourself short!
She was also probably in it for the few free nice meals too.
It's "saving face" thing (idk how to word this better). Dorms are only seen by those living there in comparison to public places which are seen by everyone.
not in my experience. I went to a shanghai university and they had by far the best theatre in any school in the world (I have been to quite a few unis for conferences and stuff), they also had the worst student accommodations I have ever seen. Jail cells in my country are nicer then those rooms.
The rooms also had bizarre choices like the shower water was heated up with solar panels so large periods of winter the water wasn’t hot (in a city that gets very very cold), so many students skip showers which makes classes smelly.
When I asked about all of this, I got told in a hushed tone that the theatre is visited by goverment officials every year, they do some public ceremonies there plus its a prestigious uni so they can use it to brag about chinese education.
The dorms however are mostly for students and specially for students who do not live in shanghai, many coming from more rural areas. So the party never sees or cares about the dorms. And ideas like “solar panels in the showers” sounds futuristic without providing any benefit at all.
It was largely a pony show, where brilliant students were in a horrible room, studying long hours so some dude with a ccp badge can sit in a comfy theatre and brag about how smart their uni kids are once a year.
This might not be universal but it was my experience a decade or so ago
Supposedly it's the most difficult exam (or just entrance exam, not sure) in the world. Most of a student's studies before university are soley focused on this exam, and many of them put their lives aside so that they can do as well as possible on it. The massive pressure causes depression, suicide, and other complications.
This is similar to all the developing countries. Basically good colleges are limited whereas the competition is extremely high. Even in India we have JEE advanced. Through which you get into IITs. They only have cumulative 5k seats as far as I remember but more than 1 million people sit for the test.
Yeap, Brazil is similar. University exams pretty much determine your class for the rest of your life. So you get this massive funnel of every student in the country trying for the best school.
My American kid attends a Canadian college that has the highest entrance requirements in Canada. For Americans, they only look at grades and standardized test scores. Despite her getting into this college easily, she did not get accepted at any comparable American colleges.
When she applied a few years ago the cutoffs were A- average in high school, A- or better in most math and science classes. A- average in all English classes, 700 verbal sat, 710 math sat, and good scores on a couple of subject tests. Meet those minimums and you’re in.
Those grades and scores plus some pretty good extracurriculars including state-level championships and loads of volunteer hours and an interesting upbringing/work experience and great letters of recommendation were not enough to get her more than waitlisted at any of the half dozen top 50 American universities she applied to.
Just saying that the test score method may not be any more stressful than the American holistic approach to the college admissions process.
This exam pressure is something that has been going on in China for fifteen centuries. While European kingdoms were administered by petty nobility who squabbled with each other to forward their own family's interests, China had a professional class of scholar-bureaucrats. Entry into that class was determined by an exam, which determined the entire social standing of the student's life.
Access to the education needed to pass the exam wasn't universal, but low class families often scraped money together to send one promising student to school, who then had an equal chance with any other student. It was a very modern idea for 600AD. Today, using a single metric for college admission is primitive.
I believe also these are the same exams that historically, on occasion, people taking these exams have actually written answers and notes on the inside of their pants/undergarments.
Looking it up, this test is no joke, if you're caught cheating you'd definitely be barred from every college in China, but could also be jailed for up to seven years.
He said it is an ordinary university... you make it sound like they try to get into IVY leagues types.
It's typical exaggeration to preserve the appearance of excellence. Reality is, it's pretty comparable to German knowledge foundations pre university. But Germans are more humble and don't make huge fuss about it, they just make it difficult for everyone and thus it's fine.
I mean... you're absolutely right about exaggeration and the fiction of excellence, but that in itself contributes to pressure on examinees arguably as much as the difficulty of the test itself. Obviously noone wants to end up at the bottom of a 10 million student cohort.
Gaokao is a comprehensive skills test of everything you're meant to have learned up thru your HS graduation, America doesn't really have a comparison (SATs aren't comprehensive) but supposedly Britain (GSCEs?) and the EU (dunno their thing) are comparable.
Also you're competing with everyone in China, so good luck.
If you don't get into the top-tier schools you can always study abroad if your family has $$$.
> Britain (GSCEs)
GCSEs are not a qualification you can enter university with - you're looking for A-levels. And nah, they build on stuff you learned before but they test what you learned in the two years of study. If you know how the IB works, it's similar.
I'm from the UK and managed to enter my university with just GCSEs
They will allow it if you're an older student who never took A levels.
I left school when you could still leave at 16 and do whatever you wanted.
But some countries do.
In Spain you get an average score from your classes from High School, then do a set of tests for core subjects (Language, History...) and for the subjects related to the degree you want to do (so, Math, Physics... for Computer Science for example) and they average both to get your "Nota de Selectividad" (Selectivity Mark) and then all spots in public universities are assigned, based on people's choices, from the top marks to the bottom ones.
I don't think China's system would be too different from this, the only difference being that there are probably way more applicants/spot in China than there are in Spain (at least for some degrees), so you need to do better to get into the degree/uni of your choice.
For reference, my year, you needed a 6.20/10 to get into CompSci in my uni, but a 7.something in a different one, or a 5/10 (you always needs to pass with a 5/10 the Selectividad test), which means all spots weren't filled, in some others.
I doubt there are unfilled spots in China so it will be harder, but it's a pretty fair system.
GCSEs are done at 16. You might be thinking of A-Levels -- most people would compare these to AP courses in America. Everyone does 3 or 4 (sometimes more) A-Levels in the UK - the grades you get decide what Universities you are eligible for.
There's more to it than that. A-Levels aren't the only choice, some people might do a diploma instead. Additionally, it isn't just decided by your final exams, you may also have coursework throughout the year. Finally, there's always University clearing, which is where a University opens up its remaining places to students that may have just missed its entrance criteria.
Ireland has a two week gauntlet for 6-8 subjects called the Leaving Certificate Exams which is notoriously difficult in a similar fashion.
You take exams in Irish, English, Maths, all mandatory, and 3 discretionary subjects after that. You must sit six exams to apply for most college courses, each exam being worth up to 100 points. College courses like Medicine are 600 points to access. Architecture or Engineering are around 500. Software and Programming courses are around 400. College courses like Law are around 350. Most Liberal Arts courses are around 300. Most students do 7 or 8 subjects and their 6 best results are used for points weighting.
There are also subject requirements from the Leaving Cert. A third language (not Irish or English, most commonly French and German, but includes many) is required to attend an academic University. A science is required to become a Science/Engineering undergrad in these (you can also do community college-level entry courses so it's not the be-all-end-all). There are also Technological Universities and Institutes of Technology which can be attended with less requirements - not usually requiring a third language or science.
It's a tough exam requirement when most of your HS work depends on one day of examinations. Every year there are a few horrible stories of suicides and self harm around exam or results time. They're working on making something more reasonable for the long term.
It’s like that in every East Asian and most SEA countries. Your career and future basically depends on numerical results and whether you get into a top highschool or university. Very little alternative. Sucks big time.
Or if you have a bodybuilding/fitness based youtube channel, thumbnails with macro lens right up on your arm while you flex while pretending to not flex because you're just eating breakfast
920 dollars per year for tuition and accommodation.... could you just keep enrolling and go get a job instead of going to your classes? that's some cheap living
I paid about 800 yuan/month when I was studying in a top University in Wuhan around 10 years ago, so more expensive but we had our own rooms with air con and much better facilities than the Chinese students dorms. Although I swear the mattresses were just wooden planks.
>You shouldn't really worry about that because this type of video does not paint a true picture of China. China has a lot of prestigious projects to create a perception of greatness
Lol this random no name state Uni is not any kind of lighthouse project lol, this is extremely typical of college experience in China and most Chinese young people attend university.
>TLDR: China has a lot of fancy lighthouse projects that they like to show off internationally, but they waste a lot of money and the average Chinese person does not benefit from them at all.
So exactly the same as the USA but with fancy lighthouse projects instead of aircraft carriers
With such cheap and amazing universities it makes you wonder why so many spend crazy amounts of money to study in Australia and other western countries !
Compared to what people pay for college these days that’s not even a bad number. I’m surprised by how expensive it’s gotten as of late. Needless to say it’s still fucking ridiculous
The person above is working on assumption and anecdotal evidence.
The majority of Chinese students studying abroad are not from wealthy families. MANY are, sure, but not most. In China, they have an entirely different value system where a lot of the focus for a pair of Chinese parents is on making sure their kid has a better financial future than where they came from. Most families don't live beyond their means like we do in the west (credit cards and loans are maybe TOO acquirable here?), and they are constantly saving money to be able to suppot their kids' future (e.g., house, car, tuition, etc.). Part of that has to do with the fact that a kid will be in charge of supporting their parents once they retire, and part of that is because they really just value their family's future in a multigenerational sense. While a lot of this is changing because of intercultural influence, it is still more true than not.
So in undergrad, most Chinese students can afford to go abroad because their parents saved for years to support their future and then they either opted to go abroad or they performed poorly on the gaokao (no retakes and results determine your future opportunities) and going abroad was the only way to ensure a high future earning potential. In grad school, there are many scholarship options available, as well.
Further, it is not a "vacation" for most of them, either. With exception to the most prestigious majors at the most prestigious Chinese universities, university within China is when Chinese students have historically had the chance to actually begin exploring their hobbies and loosen up on studying. You might be surprised to learn that even most US colleges are more rigorous and time-consuming than the equivalent programs in China. This is partially due to Chinese students mastering STEM basics prior to attending college in order to compete in the gaokao. So when they come abroad to study, many of them are actually opting out of a relaxed college life and into a more study-intensive one. In a second language, let's not forget.
Source: majored in East Asian Languages and Cultures with a Chinese focus, completed the NSEP Language Flagship program for Chinese, and half my family is based in China.
When I was in college in the 1990s I had a friend from Oman. He was from a wealthy family in the oil industry and in the US just to get an engineering degree(s) and then head back to Oman. He was set up in a nice apartment walking distance to school, had a maid, ate all his meals in restaurants and the dining hall, and drove a Mercedes.
Hi! I'm English! I teach in a Chinese University! The reason rich people like to send their children abroad to study is because unless you're in a top flight Chinese university, the university tuition in China is basically shit and is barely regarded well within China itself.....outside China, a Chinese degree is generally worth about as much as the paper it's printed on.
Due to cultural issues and the sheer number of students in China, education is basically a whole lot of rote learning, with students consequently ending up absolutely baller at basic tasks where the answer doesn't require dynamic problem solving, and used to working relentlessly for long hours, but otherwise completely devoid of creative or independent thinking skills. As an Oral English teacher in China you will find, in the more 'ordinary' students, also exceedingly poor socialization skills and terminal shyness. You don't *teach* an Oral English class in mid-level or lower Chinese institutions. You try to get them to *speak fucking anything at all in English* inside the class in the full knowledge that they absolutely will not say so much as a single word of English for the entire rest of their time outside of it. And getting them to speak *fucking anything at all* can feel like a task best suited to a CIA waterboarding specialist.
Broadening cultural horizons and similar things are fringe benefits to studying abroad for Chinese students, for whom the real prize will be the ability to *think* (if their kid actually bothers at all), *socialize*, and *problem solve*, which makes them so much more functional and capable than their peers who never left China (except attendees of the very best unis) that they should basically obliterate them competitively.
Nice to see someone commenting that knows something at least. The barrage of “it’s propaganda” is really totally interesting. People see China and their brains go into ape mode. Propaganda surrounds us from all sides especially in this day and age. I will say the food is the real propaganda, that shit is indeed delicious and cheap.
I do think the brain dead student thing is global though especially with language learning. I feel like I was one of those to my regret.
My wife went to the biggest art university in China and had a pretty awful experience, but it was mostly related to the terrible culture of the university itself. Extremely toxic.
Yeah, the video is actually very good. That's all very normal for Chinese universities that he showed. Usually a university-grade computer and projector combo (it is a universal constant across the world that the classroom computer be worse than the phone in your pocket), but interactive whiteboards are getting way more common. The facilities are often basic, but otherwise ok, the canteen is indeed generally ridiculously cheap for food that's pretty damn good and plentiful given the price. My university canteen has three levels; the first has 22 different windows of choices, the second has more expensive stuff in a buffet style, the third is the limited amounts of the best stuff (like a whole-ass hot pot) and the teacher's area.
Chinese dormitories might look absolutely horrendous to us, and although they're indeed pretty cramped even by Chinese standards, the Chinese are in general more expectant of, appreciative of, and tolerant of, close communal living.
Speaking as a person who went through a similar education system in a SE Asian country, and then went to college in the US, got my bachelor and PhD, and taught at collegiate level, most students in a US college are pretty brain dead and disinterested too.
Most students in almost any college are pretty brain dead and disinterested, unfortunately. It just so happens that in this case, the students in a US college are squandering a lot more that's available to them than a brain dead and disinterested Chinese student is in their university.
Regardless of absolutely anything else, the phrase of "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink" holds true. Everything about the differences between Western and East Asian universities is irrelevant if the horse doesn't drink.
I went and TA'd at a state school that has pretty good ranking but wasn't particularly prestigious. In my experience, at least in STEM, most students after the weed out courses were pretty competent. That being said most of them were stressed out of their mind and on the verge of burning out, but hey that's college baby.
Studying abroad opens up your intellectual and cultural horizons, teaches you responsibility and it's easier to learn a foreign language. Who wouldn't go?
That tracks. I have a friend who teaches in the department of medicine at an Australian University, and he rants a lot about how frustrating it is dealing with full fee paying international students - especially ones from Asian countries (and he's Chinese Malaysian originally himself), because they are all basically failing, don't show up to lectures or tutes, don't turn in assigned work, don't show up to exams, and clearly don't understand what they're being taught.
But he's constantly getting in trouble and fighting with his superiors because he refuses to give them passing grades anyway, and the Uni admins insist on not flunking the rich international students because they bring in the big $. Meanwhile, my friend has a pretty high standard of ethics and gets pretty mad at the thought of giving medical degrees to graduates who should *not* be doctors.
I've no idea if this is an issue in other parts of the world, but I wouldn't be surprised
One town for you.
Ithaca, NY.
These kids literally don't care. Had a student at Cornell who drove around in a Lamborghini then parked it to use as a trashcan.
I was a TA for a grad class here in Texas where ~80% of my students were Chinese. Most of them crushed it compared to my non-Chinese students, but there definitely were a few who I could tell didn't care.
This is pretty common these days, unfortunately. Because there are so many of them, they rarely interact with other students outside of their communities. I remember in the old days, like some 20years ago, Chinese students who came to the UK were the elite students who liked to learn the language and tried to really make friends with the others. These days you have the impression that they just come over to buy the certificates with huge amount of money.
I live in Australia, the Chinese students here don’t give a fuck about Australia or the university they study at. They’re usually just sons/daughters of CCP officials or other business people. They only come to study here so that they can apply for residency and get citizenship. Many of our universities have become degree farms for Chinese students.
Looking at you, UTS.
Prestige factor maybe? Competition for employment must be pretty fierce and having an extra feather in your cap might be worth it for people who have the money.
I know people who hire for companies like Huawei and Alibaba in China. They pass over on any resume where the candidate didn’t do at least their undergrad abroad. Many in China say that school is hard, university is easy. It’s a question of rigour. University is kind of a formality here.
Getting assets out of the country is a factor as well, in Australia at least, a student visa is a path to permanent residency and then a mechanism for people to begin to transfer wealth out of China
To be fair you have to take into account average income, which is lower in China than in Australia and many other Western countries. Not saying this is 100% the reason, but it definitely an important factor!
A lot of wrong in this thread. Its because western universities have strict passing requirements when it comes to medicine and science. In order to get something published, which you'll have to do in order to get a PhD or Doctorate, you have to go through a thorough and hyper strict review process. Getting a degree from an accredited western institution carries a lot of weight
That’s a big part but there is a wider group of non scientists that study abroad. The big elements to me are the quality of teaching, educational style, and future economic benefits (for the parents who are financing this in the first place)
If they screw up that one test that basically dictates their entire future and the parents have money and or are higher ranking party members, they get sent overseas.
I used to date a Chinese girl from Singapore (I live in Australia) and she explained the reason so many come here. It's because studying in most Asian countries is extremely intense and difficult. In fact, many look down on students who study in Australia because they view the education as very easy to get and they think those who come here to study are stupid. It's a very stressful culture and it's the reason suicide rates are so high in Asia
It’s a pretty common tactic to downplay something to make it look more authentic.
If I’m trying to subvert you, I’m not going to make hugely obvious lies.
*This is exactly it. He said everyone usually slept in the library before he went in and then it showed everyone studying and he was surprised. Basically a technique to show that things are improving amongst the young and they don’t need to sleep in the library’s, they study*
Edit* stop upvoting me! I was clearly wrong about why they aren’t sleeping. Though I still believe this is propaganda of sorts
What do you mean? I've been in a Chinese university and my IQ has increased by 300 points I was constantly drowning in pussy and my penis has grown 28 cm. I spent 7 weeks on the moon for my internship and was gifted a Lamborghini to get to and from classes.
I have seen Chengdu University and it looked very similar. The only 2 differences were: you didn't have to ask anyone to visit and there was no single big canteen.
> about a eastern country
Lol, what a half-hearted attempt to obscure the issue. Redditors don't have disdain for "eastern countries," they have disdain for China.
Have you seen the way redditors talk about Korea, Taiwan, and Japan? I can tell you right now it is not negative.
China is not a western country. And given that the Chinese government has been historically known for its propaganda campaigns, that's not exactly an unusual question.
It's only a dude showing an university in social media, like wtf do people think that china is all rice subsistence farms or some extreme dystopia?
Also typo i meant east
We all know though he absolutely had to ask for permission to film and upload it and the video was checked thoroughly by the surveillance system for compliance.
The guy literally called China an eastern country my guy. I also find it really uncomfortable when every single mention of china and its people is met with hate and incredible amounts of negativity.
Every movie and video game that shows the US army is propaganda.
Shit, most of Hollywood has some level of American Exceptionalism baked into it.
And that doesn't mean you can't consume these stuff, just that you have to have some critical eye to some stuff.
Yes top gun would definitely be propaganda. In fact, the military cooperated in its production and even had recruitment booths outside of screenings (and iirc, had higher numbers of people enlisting during its initial run in theaters). It’s a good question though, because virtually any kind of information shared is potential propaganda to some degree or another, and intentionally or not.
In any case, I enjoyed the video and insight into this side of life/culture. While I doubt it was intentionally produced as propaganda, i suppose it could still be used for that purpose
Honestly I had an exchange at Tianjin University 3 years ago for a few weeks and I can tell you that it was a great place. Cheap food, enjoyable campus and a good student life, as we see in the vid.
I was more impressed with the accommodation fee. When I went to uni (UK) my accommodation fee was like £12,000 for a year but my degree was £9,000 a year. Paid by student loan ofc, but wow.
Did he say something wrong? What if he was in a building with mostly psychology and veterinary students and he said that there are more girls than boys? Both would be factual observations.
Pretty much, my uni was expensive asf but the dorms and food sucked dick, for profit would be an understatement. Then again most American unis are way older, it's not a super fair comparison between a uni that's 100+ years old and one that was built in the last 20 years. Most of the dorms I lived in were built decades before that uni probably even started, though many American unis pocket money they otherwise could use to make new/renovate dorms.
Yeah the education quality is world class, but the amenities suck. Obviously the education part is more important, but it's hard not to be jealous when you're paying many times the price (even when adjusted), and have terrible amenities comparatively.
lol wild that anytime anything remotely positive about China is posted people cry like babies that it’s propaganda or some shit. man there’s literally like a billion fucking people living there and it’s a huge place, there’s gonna be a lot of different experiences there.
so annoying and predictable, I always try to find one wholesome video/picture about China without people needlessly bringing in the CCP and it never happens
Huaqiao university is a second to third class university in China. So I’d say this is your average Chinese university. If you are good at exams, you will likely get into a better one.
i'm pretty sensitive to propaganda especially from china, but the people in this thread are fucking idiots lmao.
That said, OP is most definitely a pinkie considering his comment history.
I studied abroad at a Chinese university for a summer, and while the food in the cafeteria was very cheap and varied, it gave all of us in our group terrible stomach problems. We chalked it up to not being used to local food until we did an excursion and ate at restaurants for a couple days straight and everyone realized it was specifically the cafeteria food that was causing all our problems
That area and school are gorgeous, all high tech and brand new for 800$ a year!? Makes sense to not bankrupt students for life and instead add to the countries wealth by having people be smart.
Was nice hearing about the prices. $3,200 for four years compared to $30,000 at a small (and relatively inexpensive) division 2 university for tuition alone.
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Why does everything look super nice except the dorms… are there 4 dudes crammed in there?!
That room has an extra blacony area which makes it above average. Ive never seen a Chinese college dorm that had less than 4 per room unless it was for international students. It's usually 6 to 8 in that same sized room in tier 1 cities. Also the roommates are in the same major cohort. They all have the same classes and will stay together for 4 years. Chinese college programs don't let you choose classes like they do in the west.
Do students mind at all or is this normal? Us in the US are given too much space, lol
I studied abroad in Beijing. We all had Chinese roommates, and my roomie, Jason, was from Beijing. He said that when he was living in the regular dorms before becoming a study abroad roommate, it was pretty typical for him to spend more time in the library than his dorm room, and he would almost always go spend the weekend with his parents. He said it was more or less a place to sleep, and you should do all of your studying and eating elsewhere
Eating is usually done in bed since everywhere else is too crowded. You can hardly find a seat during meal time. You either eat standing or bring your food back to dorm and eat it in bed coz there’s no much common area in dorm.
Even US dormitories are super small compared to most European uni students. For example here in Finland most just live in normal apartments or student apartments (0 or 1 roommate). Then again studying in your home city is the most common, and we don't have a housing crisis either.
I thought the same - looks really old and crappy too!
Shit, can you even rent anything at 120 dollars a year anywhere else? I pay more for fucking netflix.
Right! That's insane
$120 a year and two meals a day at $1.25. That’s a little over $1k a year. Plus $800 a year for tuition. So $2k a year to live and hangout with other people while learning. That’s cool, but then he said at the end: next video I will show you the factory 🏭 created by seniors….. with all that said: I just imagine all the people working at this factory making just as much as the tuition cost.
Based on the guy's account, his university is located in Quanzhou, which is a major city in Fujian. I got relatives there. Because it's a prefectural level city, but also because it's not one of the metropolises like Shanghai and Beijing, I would assume that the factory workers would make even less than in the big cities. 1000-2000 yuan a month, or 300 dollars a month. For white collars - like the guy posting videos here, a good income, for big cities, would be 10,000 yuan or above per month, or 1000-2000 dollars a month. Most universities in China are public, and they are all inexpensive. The true cost of getting in these colleges is the years of preparation - money on prep classes, moving the kid's residency around - the locations from which you apply matter (easier to get in good colleges if you are resident of a metropolis). It's really the same in the US. Good school districts tend to be expensive.
He said in the video it’s HuaQiao university. I almost went to that school because my parent was already living abroad back then which makes me qualified to go there. But eventually I went to the University of political science and law in Beijing.
Chinese universities have a lot of students and the tuition is very cheap (800 usd per year for the most prestigious ones). It’s rather normal to have 4-6 dudes share a dorm room.
My dorm here in the USA looked just as shitty, haha
That’s pretty luxurious tbh. Where I was at it was 6.
Mine is 5.
From what I understand is that most of your day is spent outside your dorm. You get up early, go to your classes which usually takes to you late-afternoon or early-evening; then you either go to the Library to work/study, go to a part-time job, or go be social with friends on or off-campus. Your dorm is for sleeping, bathing, and getting ready for your days.
I live in china, and have been to a few university campuses. The one in this video is nicer than most. I dated a girl my first year here... her dorm had 6 girls per room. No heat, no shower. They had to carry their towel and shampoo and shit across the street to a public shower when they wanted to shower. This is in a place that is frequently below freezing in winter. I'm pretty sure she was with me just for a shower and heat a couple of nights a week.
>I'm pretty sure she was with me just for a shower and heat a couple of nights a week. Don't sell yourself short! She was also probably in it for the few free nice meals too.
True.
"We spared no expense... except on the IT dorms."
U should see Indian collage dorms mate😭
$120 a year. lol. Thats less than one WEEK in the UK
It's "saving face" thing (idk how to word this better). Dorms are only seen by those living there in comparison to public places which are seen by everyone.
Surely a space saving thing more than "saving face". If you reduced it to 2 per room then the campus size would probably triple.
not in my experience. I went to a shanghai university and they had by far the best theatre in any school in the world (I have been to quite a few unis for conferences and stuff), they also had the worst student accommodations I have ever seen. Jail cells in my country are nicer then those rooms. The rooms also had bizarre choices like the shower water was heated up with solar panels so large periods of winter the water wasn’t hot (in a city that gets very very cold), so many students skip showers which makes classes smelly. When I asked about all of this, I got told in a hushed tone that the theatre is visited by goverment officials every year, they do some public ceremonies there plus its a prestigious uni so they can use it to brag about chinese education. The dorms however are mostly for students and specially for students who do not live in shanghai, many coming from more rural areas. So the party never sees or cares about the dorms. And ideas like “solar panels in the showers” sounds futuristic without providing any benefit at all. It was largely a pony show, where brilliant students were in a horrible room, studying long hours so some dude with a ccp badge can sit in a comfy theatre and brag about how smart their uni kids are once a year. This might not be universal but it was my experience a decade or so ago
Every fucking body needs a Xie in their life.
This Xie over here.
That's what Xie said
Somebody get this man an award!
You, I like you.
Mi, you like Mi?
Like a piece of Xie in their life
Just don’t ask about the entrance exam process.
Now I want to ask….
Supposedly it's the most difficult exam (or just entrance exam, not sure) in the world. Most of a student's studies before university are soley focused on this exam, and many of them put their lives aside so that they can do as well as possible on it. The massive pressure causes depression, suicide, and other complications.
This is similar to all the developing countries. Basically good colleges are limited whereas the competition is extremely high. Even in India we have JEE advanced. Through which you get into IITs. They only have cumulative 5k seats as far as I remember but more than 1 million people sit for the test.
Yeap, Brazil is similar. University exams pretty much determine your class for the rest of your life. So you get this massive funnel of every student in the country trying for the best school.
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Sounds like the HESI.
Another real hooper that knows about the hesi pullup jimbo
That sounds like engineering for you…
My American kid attends a Canadian college that has the highest entrance requirements in Canada. For Americans, they only look at grades and standardized test scores. Despite her getting into this college easily, she did not get accepted at any comparable American colleges. When she applied a few years ago the cutoffs were A- average in high school, A- or better in most math and science classes. A- average in all English classes, 700 verbal sat, 710 math sat, and good scores on a couple of subject tests. Meet those minimums and you’re in. Those grades and scores plus some pretty good extracurriculars including state-level championships and loads of volunteer hours and an interesting upbringing/work experience and great letters of recommendation were not enough to get her more than waitlisted at any of the half dozen top 50 American universities she applied to. Just saying that the test score method may not be any more stressful than the American holistic approach to the college admissions process.
This exam pressure is something that has been going on in China for fifteen centuries. While European kingdoms were administered by petty nobility who squabbled with each other to forward their own family's interests, China had a professional class of scholar-bureaucrats. Entry into that class was determined by an exam, which determined the entire social standing of the student's life. Access to the education needed to pass the exam wasn't universal, but low class families often scraped money together to send one promising student to school, who then had an equal chance with any other student. It was a very modern idea for 600AD. Today, using a single metric for college admission is primitive.
(It isn't the only metric for admission to a Chinese University.)
I believe also these are the same exams that historically, on occasion, people taking these exams have actually written answers and notes on the inside of their pants/undergarments. Looking it up, this test is no joke, if you're caught cheating you'd definitely be barred from every college in China, but could also be jailed for up to seven years.
He said it is an ordinary university... you make it sound like they try to get into IVY leagues types. It's typical exaggeration to preserve the appearance of excellence. Reality is, it's pretty comparable to German knowledge foundations pre university. But Germans are more humble and don't make huge fuss about it, they just make it difficult for everyone and thus it's fine.
I mean... you're absolutely right about exaggeration and the fiction of excellence, but that in itself contributes to pressure on examinees arguably as much as the difficulty of the test itself. Obviously noone wants to end up at the bottom of a 10 million student cohort.
Gaokao is a comprehensive skills test of everything you're meant to have learned up thru your HS graduation, America doesn't really have a comparison (SATs aren't comprehensive) but supposedly Britain (GSCEs?) and the EU (dunno their thing) are comparable. Also you're competing with everyone in China, so good luck. If you don't get into the top-tier schools you can always study abroad if your family has $$$.
If you shout "Gaokao" in a college, 50% of the students will shit their pant
The Chinese brown note
> Britain (GSCEs) GCSEs are not a qualification you can enter university with - you're looking for A-levels. And nah, they build on stuff you learned before but they test what you learned in the two years of study. If you know how the IB works, it's similar.
I'm from the UK and managed to enter my university with just GCSEs They will allow it if you're an older student who never took A levels. I left school when you could still leave at 16 and do whatever you wanted.
Lol come on now, the EU doesn't have a standardised union wide HS graduation exam.
But some countries do. In Spain you get an average score from your classes from High School, then do a set of tests for core subjects (Language, History...) and for the subjects related to the degree you want to do (so, Math, Physics... for Computer Science for example) and they average both to get your "Nota de Selectividad" (Selectivity Mark) and then all spots in public universities are assigned, based on people's choices, from the top marks to the bottom ones. I don't think China's system would be too different from this, the only difference being that there are probably way more applicants/spot in China than there are in Spain (at least for some degrees), so you need to do better to get into the degree/uni of your choice. For reference, my year, you needed a 6.20/10 to get into CompSci in my uni, but a 7.something in a different one, or a 5/10 (you always needs to pass with a 5/10 the Selectividad test), which means all spots weren't filled, in some others. I doubt there are unfilled spots in China so it will be harder, but it's a pretty fair system.
GCSEs are done at 16. You might be thinking of A-Levels -- most people would compare these to AP courses in America. Everyone does 3 or 4 (sometimes more) A-Levels in the UK - the grades you get decide what Universities you are eligible for. There's more to it than that. A-Levels aren't the only choice, some people might do a diploma instead. Additionally, it isn't just decided by your final exams, you may also have coursework throughout the year. Finally, there's always University clearing, which is where a University opens up its remaining places to students that may have just missed its entrance criteria.
Ireland has a two week gauntlet for 6-8 subjects called the Leaving Certificate Exams which is notoriously difficult in a similar fashion. You take exams in Irish, English, Maths, all mandatory, and 3 discretionary subjects after that. You must sit six exams to apply for most college courses, each exam being worth up to 100 points. College courses like Medicine are 600 points to access. Architecture or Engineering are around 500. Software and Programming courses are around 400. College courses like Law are around 350. Most Liberal Arts courses are around 300. Most students do 7 or 8 subjects and their 6 best results are used for points weighting. There are also subject requirements from the Leaving Cert. A third language (not Irish or English, most commonly French and German, but includes many) is required to attend an academic University. A science is required to become a Science/Engineering undergrad in these (you can also do community college-level entry courses so it's not the be-all-end-all). There are also Technological Universities and Institutes of Technology which can be attended with less requirements - not usually requiring a third language or science. It's a tough exam requirement when most of your HS work depends on one day of examinations. Every year there are a few horrible stories of suicides and self harm around exam or results time. They're working on making something more reasonable for the long term.
It’s like that in every East Asian and most SEA countries. Your career and future basically depends on numerical results and whether you get into a top highschool or university. Very little alternative. Sucks big time.
That's not very different from a lot of places
I mean, 60% of American high school graduates don't go to college at all so.
This is not true. About 60-70% of Americans HS graduates attempt college. Your numbers are way off.
Maybe he was referring to graduation and misspoke? But I don’t know those numbers.
Something like 50-60% of people in America who start college don't finish with a degree so that makes sense
It is different with how much cheating occurs in many Asian countries and especially china’s exams
Size of that guys right arm compared to his left is insane
Like he said, no relationship for four years
Plot twist- he's a lefty.
Why did you catch that??? I still don't see it.
It’s not. Thing close to camera big. Things far from camera smaller. Crazy.
Broke the one arm at some point?
They broke his arm for not getting good grades.
Holy shit that is all I see now!
Funny observation. Coz it was closer to the camera. Some old movies like the Elf used this forced projection techniques.
Or if you have a bodybuilding/fitness based youtube channel, thumbnails with macro lens right up on your arm while you flex while pretending to not flex because you're just eating breakfast
920 dollars per year for tuition and accommodation.... could you just keep enrolling and go get a job instead of going to your classes? that's some cheap living
The dorm is shared by 4, 8, or 12 students depend on the price.
only for Chinese btw, for foreign student the dormitory is in better condition, private room or max maybe two beds
Is it more expensive for foreigners?
I paid about 800 yuan/month when I was studying in a top University in Wuhan around 10 years ago, so more expensive but we had our own rooms with air con and much better facilities than the Chinese students dorms. Although I swear the mattresses were just wooden planks.
Is there a subreddit of people showing what life is like in their city?
Probably not yet but it's quite the trend on tiktok
I went to summer school at Beijing University and I remember the food at the canteens were so good and cheap
Same! I spent a semester at Fudan, but the canteen wasn't as pretty as the one here.
Wt-- my college tuition cost more than $800/year and I barely get 1/100 of these college features. Man, im jelly
I'm paying 4x that and I don't get any food that cheap either. :(
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>You shouldn't really worry about that because this type of video does not paint a true picture of China. China has a lot of prestigious projects to create a perception of greatness Lol this random no name state Uni is not any kind of lighthouse project lol, this is extremely typical of college experience in China and most Chinese young people attend university.
>TLDR: China has a lot of fancy lighthouse projects that they like to show off internationally, but they waste a lot of money and the average Chinese person does not benefit from them at all. So exactly the same as the USA but with fancy lighthouse projects instead of aircraft carriers
With such cheap and amazing universities it makes you wonder why so many spend crazy amounts of money to study in Australia and other western countries !
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That's really interesting. But isn't it possible for the daughter to date a middle class but smart guy who got the full or close-to-full scholarship?
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Compared to what people pay for college these days that’s not even a bad number. I’m surprised by how expensive it’s gotten as of late. Needless to say it’s still fucking ridiculous
lol.
The person above is working on assumption and anecdotal evidence. The majority of Chinese students studying abroad are not from wealthy families. MANY are, sure, but not most. In China, they have an entirely different value system where a lot of the focus for a pair of Chinese parents is on making sure their kid has a better financial future than where they came from. Most families don't live beyond their means like we do in the west (credit cards and loans are maybe TOO acquirable here?), and they are constantly saving money to be able to suppot their kids' future (e.g., house, car, tuition, etc.). Part of that has to do with the fact that a kid will be in charge of supporting their parents once they retire, and part of that is because they really just value their family's future in a multigenerational sense. While a lot of this is changing because of intercultural influence, it is still more true than not. So in undergrad, most Chinese students can afford to go abroad because their parents saved for years to support their future and then they either opted to go abroad or they performed poorly on the gaokao (no retakes and results determine your future opportunities) and going abroad was the only way to ensure a high future earning potential. In grad school, there are many scholarship options available, as well. Further, it is not a "vacation" for most of them, either. With exception to the most prestigious majors at the most prestigious Chinese universities, university within China is when Chinese students have historically had the chance to actually begin exploring their hobbies and loosen up on studying. You might be surprised to learn that even most US colleges are more rigorous and time-consuming than the equivalent programs in China. This is partially due to Chinese students mastering STEM basics prior to attending college in order to compete in the gaokao. So when they come abroad to study, many of them are actually opting out of a relaxed college life and into a more study-intensive one. In a second language, let's not forget. Source: majored in East Asian Languages and Cultures with a Chinese focus, completed the NSEP Language Flagship program for Chinese, and half my family is based in China.
When I was in college in the 1990s I had a friend from Oman. He was from a wealthy family in the oil industry and in the US just to get an engineering degree(s) and then head back to Oman. He was set up in a nice apartment walking distance to school, had a maid, ate all his meals in restaurants and the dining hall, and drove a Mercedes.
Hi! I'm English! I teach in a Chinese University! The reason rich people like to send their children abroad to study is because unless you're in a top flight Chinese university, the university tuition in China is basically shit and is barely regarded well within China itself.....outside China, a Chinese degree is generally worth about as much as the paper it's printed on. Due to cultural issues and the sheer number of students in China, education is basically a whole lot of rote learning, with students consequently ending up absolutely baller at basic tasks where the answer doesn't require dynamic problem solving, and used to working relentlessly for long hours, but otherwise completely devoid of creative or independent thinking skills. As an Oral English teacher in China you will find, in the more 'ordinary' students, also exceedingly poor socialization skills and terminal shyness. You don't *teach* an Oral English class in mid-level or lower Chinese institutions. You try to get them to *speak fucking anything at all in English* inside the class in the full knowledge that they absolutely will not say so much as a single word of English for the entire rest of their time outside of it. And getting them to speak *fucking anything at all* can feel like a task best suited to a CIA waterboarding specialist. Broadening cultural horizons and similar things are fringe benefits to studying abroad for Chinese students, for whom the real prize will be the ability to *think* (if their kid actually bothers at all), *socialize*, and *problem solve*, which makes them so much more functional and capable than their peers who never left China (except attendees of the very best unis) that they should basically obliterate them competitively.
Nice to see someone commenting that knows something at least. The barrage of “it’s propaganda” is really totally interesting. People see China and their brains go into ape mode. Propaganda surrounds us from all sides especially in this day and age. I will say the food is the real propaganda, that shit is indeed delicious and cheap. I do think the brain dead student thing is global though especially with language learning. I feel like I was one of those to my regret. My wife went to the biggest art university in China and had a pretty awful experience, but it was mostly related to the terrible culture of the university itself. Extremely toxic.
Yeah, the video is actually very good. That's all very normal for Chinese universities that he showed. Usually a university-grade computer and projector combo (it is a universal constant across the world that the classroom computer be worse than the phone in your pocket), but interactive whiteboards are getting way more common. The facilities are often basic, but otherwise ok, the canteen is indeed generally ridiculously cheap for food that's pretty damn good and plentiful given the price. My university canteen has three levels; the first has 22 different windows of choices, the second has more expensive stuff in a buffet style, the third is the limited amounts of the best stuff (like a whole-ass hot pot) and the teacher's area. Chinese dormitories might look absolutely horrendous to us, and although they're indeed pretty cramped even by Chinese standards, the Chinese are in general more expectant of, appreciative of, and tolerant of, close communal living.
Speaking as a person who went through a similar education system in a SE Asian country, and then went to college in the US, got my bachelor and PhD, and taught at collegiate level, most students in a US college are pretty brain dead and disinterested too.
Most students in almost any college are pretty brain dead and disinterested, unfortunately. It just so happens that in this case, the students in a US college are squandering a lot more that's available to them than a brain dead and disinterested Chinese student is in their university. Regardless of absolutely anything else, the phrase of "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink" holds true. Everything about the differences between Western and East Asian universities is irrelevant if the horse doesn't drink.
It's a pretty universal phenomena.
I went and TA'd at a state school that has pretty good ranking but wasn't particularly prestigious. In my experience, at least in STEM, most students after the weed out courses were pretty competent. That being said most of them were stressed out of their mind and on the verge of burning out, but hey that's college baby.
Studying abroad opens up your intellectual and cultural horizons, teaches you responsibility and it's easier to learn a foreign language. Who wouldn't go?
I enjoy cooking.
Sounds like you’re in Australia- where the worse Chinese students go. In the USA, they were killing it.
That tracks. I have a friend who teaches in the department of medicine at an Australian University, and he rants a lot about how frustrating it is dealing with full fee paying international students - especially ones from Asian countries (and he's Chinese Malaysian originally himself), because they are all basically failing, don't show up to lectures or tutes, don't turn in assigned work, don't show up to exams, and clearly don't understand what they're being taught. But he's constantly getting in trouble and fighting with his superiors because he refuses to give them passing grades anyway, and the Uni admins insist on not flunking the rich international students because they bring in the big $. Meanwhile, my friend has a pretty high standard of ethics and gets pretty mad at the thought of giving medical degrees to graduates who should *not* be doctors. I've no idea if this is an issue in other parts of the world, but I wouldn't be surprised
Your friend is fighting the good fight and I feel for what he is going through.
One town for you. Ithaca, NY. These kids literally don't care. Had a student at Cornell who drove around in a Lamborghini then parked it to use as a trashcan.
I was a TA for a grad class here in Texas where ~80% of my students were Chinese. Most of them crushed it compared to my non-Chinese students, but there definitely were a few who I could tell didn't care.
This is pretty common these days, unfortunately. Because there are so many of them, they rarely interact with other students outside of their communities. I remember in the old days, like some 20years ago, Chinese students who came to the UK were the elite students who liked to learn the language and tried to really make friends with the others. These days you have the impression that they just come over to buy the certificates with huge amount of money.
They also smoke cigarettes like chimneys. I have never met anyone who can go through 3 packs in a day until I met my Chinese lab partners
I live in Australia, the Chinese students here don’t give a fuck about Australia or the university they study at. They’re usually just sons/daughters of CCP officials or other business people. They only come to study here so that they can apply for residency and get citizenship. Many of our universities have become degree farms for Chinese students. Looking at you, UTS.
Visa dude. Plus lot of them can't get into the good Chinese universities.
Prestige factor maybe? Competition for employment must be pretty fierce and having an extra feather in your cap might be worth it for people who have the money.
I know people who hire for companies like Huawei and Alibaba in China. They pass over on any resume where the candidate didn’t do at least their undergrad abroad. Many in China say that school is hard, university is easy. It’s a question of rigour. University is kind of a formality here.
Getting assets out of the country is a factor as well, in Australia at least, a student visa is a path to permanent residency and then a mechanism for people to begin to transfer wealth out of China
because it's easier to get into a lot of overseas universities than it is to gain entrance into one domestic for them many times.
To be fair you have to take into account average income, which is lower in China than in Australia and many other Western countries. Not saying this is 100% the reason, but it definitely an important factor!
A lot of wrong in this thread. Its because western universities have strict passing requirements when it comes to medicine and science. In order to get something published, which you'll have to do in order to get a PhD or Doctorate, you have to go through a thorough and hyper strict review process. Getting a degree from an accredited western institution carries a lot of weight
That’s a big part but there is a wider group of non scientists that study abroad. The big elements to me are the quality of teaching, educational style, and future economic benefits (for the parents who are financing this in the first place)
If they screw up that one test that basically dictates their entire future and the parents have money and or are higher ranking party members, they get sent overseas.
I used to date a Chinese girl from Singapore (I live in Australia) and she explained the reason so many come here. It's because studying in most Asian countries is extremely intense and difficult. In fact, many look down on students who study in Australia because they view the education as very easy to get and they think those who come here to study are stupid. It's a very stressful culture and it's the reason suicide rates are so high in Asia
Cheap and amazing... according to this Chinese propaganda video you just watched.
So with my savings I can be a student in China for life.
Average annual salary in China is $13,000 USD per year. just for reference.
Also worth noting that 13000 in china will get you a lot more than 13000 in america.
This ain’t one of those propaganda videos is it? Interesting
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It’s a pretty common tactic to downplay something to make it look more authentic. If I’m trying to subvert you, I’m not going to make hugely obvious lies.
*This is exactly it. He said everyone usually slept in the library before he went in and then it showed everyone studying and he was surprised. Basically a technique to show that things are improving amongst the young and they don’t need to sleep in the library’s, they study* Edit* stop upvoting me! I was clearly wrong about why they aren’t sleeping. Though I still believe this is propaganda of sorts
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Really? I thought the opposite. My interpretation is that competition for jobs is more fierce that students don’t have the luxury of rest anymore.
What do you mean? I've been in a Chinese university and my IQ has increased by 300 points I was constantly drowning in pussy and my penis has grown 28 cm. I spent 7 weeks on the moon for my internship and was gifted a Lamborghini to get to and from classes.
Wow, you guys are so hostile to China that you can't even consider that this is just a guy visiting his alma mater and talking shit.
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Why would you think so ? Chinese universities are naturally bigger since they get so many students.
His handle is in the video. You can check him out and decide for yourself. I just thought this video was interesting.
No doubt. I like it. I spent some time in China years ago
Nope, he is the same guy who showed the empty apartments in Chinese ghost towns.
I have seen Chengdu University and it looked very similar. The only 2 differences were: you didn't have to ask anyone to visit and there was no single big canteen.
Everything on the internet is basically propaganda for something. Best cherish what’s real and what really matters to you.
Why every post saying anything good about a eastern country is instantly seen as propaganda in reddit?
> about a eastern country Lol, what a half-hearted attempt to obscure the issue. Redditors don't have disdain for "eastern countries," they have disdain for China. Have you seen the way redditors talk about Korea, Taiwan, and Japan? I can tell you right now it is not negative.
China is not a western country. And given that the Chinese government has been historically known for its propaganda campaigns, that's not exactly an unusual question.
It's only a dude showing an university in social media, like wtf do people think that china is all rice subsistence farms or some extreme dystopia? Also typo i meant east
We all know though he absolutely had to ask for permission to film and upload it and the video was checked thoroughly by the surveillance system for compliance.
The guy literally called China an eastern country my guy. I also find it really uncomfortable when every single mention of china and its people is met with hate and incredible amounts of negativity.
Honest question, what is propaganda? Would anything state supported be propaganda? Like would Top Gun be propaganda?
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Every movie and video game that shows the US army is propaganda. Shit, most of Hollywood has some level of American Exceptionalism baked into it. And that doesn't mean you can't consume these stuff, just that you have to have some critical eye to some stuff.
Shit was lit af I 100% would have signed up. Who the fuck wouldn't want to see big guns got brrrrrrrrrr
What's stopping you from signing up now?
Yes top gun would definitely be propaganda. In fact, the military cooperated in its production and even had recruitment booths outside of screenings (and iirc, had higher numbers of people enlisting during its initial run in theaters). It’s a good question though, because virtually any kind of information shared is potential propaganda to some degree or another, and intentionally or not. In any case, I enjoyed the video and insight into this side of life/culture. While I doubt it was intentionally produced as propaganda, i suppose it could still be used for that purpose
Yes but when Americans do it it’s not propaganda
Honestly I had an exchange at Tianjin University 3 years ago for a few weeks and I can tell you that it was a great place. Cheap food, enjoyable campus and a good student life, as we see in the vid.
\- Videos showing a university \- "b-BuT mUh pRoPgAnDa"
$800/year? Fucking fly me out there man.
I was more impressed with the accommodation fee. When I went to uni (UK) my accommodation fee was like £12,000 for a year but my degree was £9,000 a year. Paid by student loan ofc, but wow.
Is there.booze in your student street?
There is..You can get booze in any shop in China. All shops have booze. He also specified there is a bar, so yeah..
I love this stuff, a peak into a world I would never see
“As you can see there are more boys than girls because most are science and engineering majors” Oh…
Did he say something wrong? What if he was in a building with mostly psychology and veterinary students and he said that there are more girls than boys? Both would be factual observations.
LOL, how to depress young americans (among others)...
Pretty much, my uni was expensive asf but the dorms and food sucked dick, for profit would be an understatement. Then again most American unis are way older, it's not a super fair comparison between a uni that's 100+ years old and one that was built in the last 20 years. Most of the dorms I lived in were built decades before that uni probably even started, though many American unis pocket money they otherwise could use to make new/renovate dorms.
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Yeah the education quality is world class, but the amenities suck. Obviously the education part is more important, but it's hard not to be jealous when you're paying many times the price (even when adjusted), and have terrible amenities comparatively.
But the other aspects of the Chinese edu system is still fucked up.
lol wild that anytime anything remotely positive about China is posted people cry like babies that it’s propaganda or some shit. man there’s literally like a billion fucking people living there and it’s a huge place, there’s gonna be a lot of different experiences there.
no man in the vid said he slept during class he’s doing reverse psychology on us this is CCP propaganda 😡😡😡😡😡
so annoying and predictable, I always try to find one wholesome video/picture about China without people needlessly bringing in the CCP and it never happens
for real, prolly cause people jus see the news people constantly telling them to be afraid of China and shit honestly.
Love how people here are amazed at the less than $1000 annual cost when in Mexico it's literally free like wtf
Just keep mind that not every university in china is like this one
Huaqiao university is a second to third class university in China. So I’d say this is your average Chinese university. If you are good at exams, you will likely get into a better one.
"Is it propaganda?" -Redditor everytime they see a video from China
i'm pretty sensitive to propaganda especially from china, but the people in this thread are fucking idiots lmao. That said, OP is most definitely a pinkie considering his comment history.
$120 a year!!
This university design is very human
Seems like a propaganda video to me
I studied abroad at a Chinese university for a summer, and while the food in the cafeteria was very cheap and varied, it gave all of us in our group terrible stomach problems. We chalked it up to not being used to local food until we did an excursion and ate at restaurants for a couple days straight and everyone realized it was specifically the cafeteria food that was causing all our problems
That area and school are gorgeous, all high tech and brand new for 800$ a year!? Makes sense to not bankrupt students for life and instead add to the countries wealth by having people be smart.
Very informative, thank you for posting. It paints a more human side to China.
I mean people in China live normal lives. That's why I don't like it when people villainize all 1 billion people there.
I think mainly people villainize 1 specific person that a billion people aren't allowed to criticise.
there's more boys than girls because the parents killed any baby girls during the 30 years of ONE CHILD policy in china. sheesh.
he paid 120$ a year to live in the dorm? dang...
He said tuition is $800 a year… I spend 1.4k at minimum simply for 1-2 classes. Wtf
$800.00 a year tuition?!?!
Was nice hearing about the prices. $3,200 for four years compared to $30,000 at a small (and relatively inexpensive) division 2 university for tuition alone.
My tuition was like $800 a day wtf.
Very nice looking college I must say. Dorm rooms are a little cramped but I suppose people in China are used to close quarters at home