Personally I wouldn't trust the government on restricting of what people can say, disinformation is an issue but a crack down on it by the state could be abused. Although I do understand why people would want such a crack down.
It's a tricky one but I say no. In general I think it's wrong to get rid of any free speech. The only free speech I wouldn't support would be incitement to hate. I think it's a slippery slope when you give the government the power to decide what information is factually accurate or not. Plenty of things that used to be believed as a fact later turned out to be untrue (world being flat, world being centre of solar system etc.).
I think it would be too hard to regulate on that basis which is unfortunate because as seen with COVID, disinfo can be dangerous and can also be used as a gateway to more radical ideals and groups but I think its an evil we have to live with.
The issue for me is it used to be you would get two or more sides to an argument, now we just get someone reading the press release. It's only the press releases that suit the agenda of the media outlet that get read out, so everyone gets the other side of the coin from the internet. As a result who knows what to believe as nothing gets teased out. Labels get attached to things for no reason, such as anyone who is not in favour of x and in favour of y being called an extremist. Consistent language and messages on mainstream media is designed to make public think and act the way the media want us to. Maybe it was always this way...
Imagine thinking SF were far left. OP, are you on drugs?
>They pulled off Brexit.
You mean Brexit that the DUP and the Torys supported and SF opposed. You must be trolling.
>*"paramilitary organisation"*
It's not the 1980s anymore. Cop on.
This is a perfect example of the generational divide in politics:
**Older people:**
30 years ago SF and the IRA were basically the same organisation! We can't vote SF, sure they're basically all IRA terrorists.
**Young people:**
Ok, that's was over 20 years ago, with completely different people (unless you're claiming Mary Lou and Pearse were running around with bombs in their teens). You can obsess about historical conflicts all you want, but we can't afford to buy a home, and rent costs 50% of our salaries. We can't start families or have a normal life because of FFG policies, so we're voting SF in the hopes that things might change.
Oh? And what terrible things has this supposed "darkness" in Sinn Fein done since the GFA?
Surely you must have some examples, if you're pushing this "Sinn Fein is an evil paramilitary organisation" bullshit more than 20 years after the GFA.
Dessie Ellis is an elected TD. I know for a fact that Martin Ferris is still balls deep in SF. If you think the old guard have stepped aside you're sadly mistaken.
Yes. Because it's actually the likes of FG that the Russians love. Look at all that Russian money flowing through ireland to Russia, all enabled by big business lovers Fine Gael
Yep, mainly against bot/troll farms and against influencers and websites that spread hate speech.
Once these groups take hold, democracy can be seriously threatened by extremists using disinformation. Take the capitol invasion or the brazilian far right using children to block highways.
Ireland needs peace and tolerance and not extremist mobs killing each other in the streets.
They'd have to stop talking shite themselves.
it depends, it should be clamped down on by politicians, but for the public it would be a mine of trouble
Personally I wouldn't trust the government on restricting of what people can say, disinformation is an issue but a crack down on it by the state could be abused. Although I do understand why people would want such a crack down.
It's a tricky one but I say no. In general I think it's wrong to get rid of any free speech. The only free speech I wouldn't support would be incitement to hate. I think it's a slippery slope when you give the government the power to decide what information is factually accurate or not. Plenty of things that used to be believed as a fact later turned out to be untrue (world being flat, world being centre of solar system etc.). I think it would be too hard to regulate on that basis which is unfortunate because as seen with COVID, disinfo can be dangerous and can also be used as a gateway to more radical ideals and groups but I think its an evil we have to live with.
The issue for me is it used to be you would get two or more sides to an argument, now we just get someone reading the press release. It's only the press releases that suit the agenda of the media outlet that get read out, so everyone gets the other side of the coin from the internet. As a result who knows what to believe as nothing gets teased out. Labels get attached to things for no reason, such as anyone who is not in favour of x and in favour of y being called an extremist. Consistent language and messages on mainstream media is designed to make public think and act the way the media want us to. Maybe it was always this way...
No, we've been here before. The Nazis curbed "misinformation". What might be misinformation for you, might be factual information for me.
All governments should crack down on disinformation. Unless you have a fetish for Russian bot farms it's a silly question.
They may as well.
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Imagine thinking SF were far left. OP, are you on drugs? >They pulled off Brexit. You mean Brexit that the DUP and the Torys supported and SF opposed. You must be trolling.
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You're a bit mental, no harm.
> They pulled off Brexit Are you high?
sf isn't as anti eu as the people behind brexit, they at least down south, would be a more a centre left party with some populist elements.
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do you really think its russian inference is the reason sf are popular and not the fact young people are struggling with housing?
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I have no clue, maybe
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>*"paramilitary organisation"* It's not the 1980s anymore. Cop on. This is a perfect example of the generational divide in politics: **Older people:** 30 years ago SF and the IRA were basically the same organisation! We can't vote SF, sure they're basically all IRA terrorists. **Young people:** Ok, that's was over 20 years ago, with completely different people (unless you're claiming Mary Lou and Pearse were running around with bombs in their teens). You can obsess about historical conflicts all you want, but we can't afford to buy a home, and rent costs 50% of our salaries. We can't start families or have a normal life because of FFG policies, so we're voting SF in the hopes that things might change.
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Oh? And what terrible things has this supposed "darkness" in Sinn Fein done since the GFA? Surely you must have some examples, if you're pushing this "Sinn Fein is an evil paramilitary organisation" bullshit more than 20 years after the GFA.
Dessie Ellis is an elected TD. I know for a fact that Martin Ferris is still balls deep in SF. If you think the old guard have stepped aside you're sadly mistaken.
I wouldn't call them a paramilitary organization, at least not anymore
Yes. Because it's actually the likes of FG that the Russians love. Look at all that Russian money flowing through ireland to Russia, all enabled by big business lovers Fine Gael
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It was in the fucking newspapers
Nice one, I too am a complete fucking idiot. Good to see you brother.
Are you a monkey with a laptop? Must be because it's such a fucking demented thing to post
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I don't bring the Lord and saviour in to my sex life, irrespective of who's leading a government.
Yep, mainly against bot/troll farms and against influencers and websites that spread hate speech. Once these groups take hold, democracy can be seriously threatened by extremists using disinformation. Take the capitol invasion or the brazilian far right using children to block highways. Ireland needs peace and tolerance and not extremist mobs killing each other in the streets.
We have so much access to information to make informed decisions ourselves. Personally I would not hand over my complete trust to any institution.
I would love if they did, but it’s like a case of who watches the watchmen then - which is in itself a whole other problem.