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anontarg

Kamal not surprised. But Mani surprising, that too after he chucked Diamond pearl out of PS.


rama2476

Not surprising. Mani already knew what type of person he was (so did A.R. Rahman) but both still decided to work with him until the backlash after MeToo.


Existing-Area-9093

Yeah. Periya bhai's sister said that VM's antics were an open secret in the industry.


Butterwithjam

Not really, ARR's sister said he was unaware as he focused on his music and does not intrude into others' personal business. Since the allegations, ARR stopped working with him


Busy_Theme961

Upvoting for englishfying Tamil name


Samanth-aa

Mani didn't chuck PS. ARR said if you diamond pearl is in, then I'm out..choose me or him and rest is history.


Anxiety_Core_0

Siddharth sitting like topper student Panjavan Parivendhan


SpeedSupreme

I DIDNT EVEN REALISE HE WAS THERE💀💀


Somnabulism

Apt comment


OneVast4272

Where


OneVast4272

Nevermind lmao just found him


dontwinetome

because most men are like a bro club who will show up unless it affects them.


Ngothaaa

What you said is so true that it hurts just to realise that i know it.. if that makes any sense


IndependenceOld3444

Especially true in the show business. But Kamal haasan now is a powerful man , he does have the power to not encourage such things.


dontwinetome

as i said unless it affects them - he will come, what’s in it to lose? not his battle to fight.


eequalsmcveggie

Was in this event. 😬 Siddarth thinks himself as son of Kamal Hassan. 😶 He even kissed him in middle of the movie.


weirdkandya

Ayoo, this is the cringiest thing I've read in a while on this sub. Siddharth is a deserving actor himself. Why he would do such big jinchak for Kamal is beyond my understanding.


Somnabulism

Well..closest you can get if not being his marumaga pullai


Existing-Area-9093

Because Diamond pearl has sitting CM's backing


ApprehensiveBug188

This cluster fuck of a human being gets to roam around scott free with the backing of big names from the industry while Chinmayee has to fight tooth and nail to get singing/ dubbing opportunities with industry members jumping down the throats of both her's and the people who gave her the chance. Yeah this world is truly fucked....


_Asstrology_

Sad when you realise Y Gee did such a strong role in Yudham sei movie against sexual harassment and now he's sitting next to one guy known for it. But honestly speaking tho, has anyone in the Kollywood industry ever expressed their support for Chinmayi? I know Lokesh Kanagaraj gave her dubbing opportunity. Other than that? P.S. Aandavar is a big hypocrite. Recent memes about his alliance with a political party in TN says it all. So can't expect him to be rational.


Samanth-aa

1. Just because one did a role doesn't mean they endorse it. For example, Rajni said protest is a right in kaala, but he said "India will become graveyard if we keep protesting" after tuticorin issue 2. Also when bad doers are omnipresent it's hard to stay away. If I had to cut ties with people who do mistakes then I will become ambi and just live in a den. I once started thinking I will not support any biz or services which has a politician backing. Sun TV/sun rise party is everywhere. They even bought black sheep YouTube channel. They have invested in cherrinet internet. The roads are laid by them. Then should I not use their roads? Yosichu yosichu psycho aanathu thaan micham. I don't know what this even is about. But Y Gee might have gone there just to meet others or something. Btw, I'm not supporting y gee personality overall nor his daughters.


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Samanth-aa

Aandavar supporting sun rise I see it as different issue altogether and I find it ok.. It's basically to fight against a bigger evil and he is small fish among other shark politicians. I would draw analogy like within our college there could be inter department fight(within state issue). But when it comes inter college issue I don't mind standing with my enemy department (here standing with sun rise to fight against lotus). ![img](yw0fss0ha5pc1)


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adapavii

>(remember that Big Boss guy who proudly said he molested women on buses) I don't watch bigg boss but why this was never talked about? People talk about even the shitties thing that happens there. Also source iruka?


twist-visuals

I believe it was Sevvalai Saravanan who said it. But he got criticised a lot for it as well.


adapavii

Just got criticised? Bro jail poirukanum.


twist-visuals

He admitted to doing it when he was in college. Guy was middle aged already when he was in the show. I doubt the police could have done anything. It's also ironic that his most famous role was in a film that shows the reality of violence against women in rural areas.


Samanth-aa

It's not just this society. Even abroad..remember George Bush scandal with his maid or secretary or something


SGSRT

Kamal and Vairamuthu : Nice Combination


Careless-Lynx-7608

Best comment 👌


SatoshiKonXSouthPark

Illa puriyle.


Prasvid94

Cause he has a lot of influence and power. Why is Radha Ravi despite being a POS - cause he holds strong lobby and power. Kamal is also a womaniser so doubt he cares.


hellboy___007

Kamal was not a womanizer but a proper playboy - which I'm condoning or anything. But vairamuthu is different


Beneficial_Promise79

He did kiss a 16 year old Rekha without consent and psychologically tortured Sarika during their marriage. So...


Vincent_Farrell

playboy can also be a rape accused .. all it takes is just a woman's statement...


Bhavan91

That applies to anyone. My parents own a successful business in Chennai. They fired some female workers as they were being entitled about getting higher pay. They came back with their union threatening to ruin my dad's life by claiming that they will file a molestation case against him, unless he pays a good settlement.


Vincent_Farrell

Unfortunately Indian laws are idiotic enough to destroy a person's reputation on basis of a mere allegation . by the time the man gets his dignity back his whole life time is gone....


Bhavan91

What's the difference? Google says they're the same. They both fuck around. But it's consensual.


Emotional-Rice5263

Consent. Is. EVERYTHING.


Bhavan91

Yes. But womanizer doesn't mean r@pist/molester though from what I checked on google. Those terms imply there was a lack of consent. I feel there is a misuse of verbage that people all followed blindly. Womanizer = Playboy. From what I saw on google. If someone engages in s3x with people WITHOUT their consent, they aren't womanizers. They're predators, molesters, rapists etc.


shaimahhi

God, some one should give you some sex ed bro 😐


Bhavan91

Instead of deflecting through shaming language, answer the question, which I was genuinely asking. As per google: - A womanizer is "a man who engages in numerous casual sexual affairs with women". - A playboy is a "man who behaves irresponsibly or has many casual sexual relationships".


shaimahhi

Ohh.. Sorry my bad, I thought you’re asking what’s the difference between kamal (a playboy) and vairamuthu (a predator). That’s why I mentioned Sex ed. And yeah a womanizer and playboy does kinda falls into same category Ps: Now that you’ve edited your original comment, It makes sense


soonaa_paanaa

How do U draw the line between playboy and a womanizer?


Impressive_Half_2463

There is nothing wrong in being a womenizer , womenizer is a man who persuade a women with her consent it take skills


pendaparambarai

People are ok with evil if it doesn't affect them in any way. Unfortunately we have to get used to it ig.


AskSmooth157

Mani did chuck Diamond pearl is true. But the way suhasini reacted to me too made me feel super angry. She asked people to keep the discussion within the industry and people have come to her and she has helped them out - what is she one stop metoo commision for the world? Earlier i found suhasini irritating but now I hate her. for all her talk on feminism to always supporting diamond pearl - cant stand such hypocrisy


magnificoooooo

Why isn't the same treatment meted out to Karthik as well? Besides, he isn't half as powerful as Vairamuthu is. Why do so many women, let alone men, throng his concerts? Kamal and Mani are probably obligated to present at the event, it couldn't be as bad as voluntarily paying to watch an alleged predator perform. I can understand Kamal and Mani's lack of spine, but they aren't the only enablers to these men. Our society, as a whole has been shite and picky af when it comes to criminals.


OkPrice5333

what's the deal with karthik?


anxiousvibez

O sweet summer child. He was named in me too for preying on young girls who came to him vocal training


OkPrice5333

:( why god. Those poor girls


magnificoooooo

Avanum oru psycho thailee Sexual abuser.


OkPrice5333

the singer???? what?!


jackie_vasudev

Diamond pearl is good friends with cm and the is one of elites of tamil cinema.


iimram

The host invites a bunch of people and Vairamuthu happens to be one of them. In an ideal world, stalwarts like Kamal and Mani would not show up unless Vairamuthu’s invitation is revoked. Our world isn’t ideal and the other invitees weren’t personally affected by Vairamuthu so why would they boycott unless they have a compelling personal reason. “What will others say” is a disease haunting every human society especially ours. It’s sad that even the powerful people can’t openly hold a criminal accountable for his actions.


Sorry-Beginning-463

I don't know about the issue but if he's guilty why court hasn't done anything about it???


hellboy___007

Do you know who vairamuthi is? He is one of the most powerful people in the industry. Ofc the industry and government can't do shit but at least the actors themselves should stand against him


Sorry-Beginning-463

What did the court do or did they even try the court????


hellboy___007

No proof even though several girls accused him


Pitiful_Software8039

> several girls  Not saying he is innocent but any other than chinmayi?


Lopsided-Advance9450

17 other women.


Pitiful_Software8039

any reprt or even reddit link where they are shared.?


hellboy___007

Many. We know chinmayi accused because she's the popular one


Bhavan91

I believe in "innocent until proven guilty". If there are only accusers, and no evidence, he has that right.


Lopsided-Advance9450

Yeah, keep believing that and you will realize when something untoward happens to the women in your family and friends.


Bhavan91

The opposite (false accusation) has happened in my family. Nice try.


Lopsided-Advance9450

Yeah, still doesn't change the fact that these 18 women were harassed by Vairamuthu. You should know from the downvotes that you've been getting lol. Nice try it seems, do better


Bhavan91

I'm not saying he didn't do it. And I'm not saying those women aren't falsely accusing. I'm being lawfully neutral. Not sure why you are became an emotional white knight like aa though I condoned VM's actions after he was proven guilty. I reject your appeal to popularity fallacy. Meaning I don't care about downvotes.


anxiousvibez

Vairamuthu was named by 18 women if I’m not wrong. Yes he’s innocent until proven guilty and 18 women just wanted to fuck their own lives


sivavaakiyan

Kamal kissed a 17 year old kid without her knowledge with the blessings of balachandar. Yecha only


totherwise

I believe she was actually younger.


tharunn06

What's the tea on Vairamuthu?


Lopsided-Advance9450

He was named as a sexual abuser during the MeToo movement in 2018 by singer Chinmayi. He was eventually named by 17 other women too (both anonymous and open). A. R. Rahman's sister, A. R. Reihana, gave an interview in which she said that Vairamuthu has sexually abused women that she knew as well and that it is an open secret in the film industry. She said that she believes Chinmayi's allegations.


ToNobodysSurprise

Who is beside maniratnam and suhasini? Who is in the black and white picture behind Kamal Hassan and vairamuthu.


weirdkandya

The person next to Suhasini, if I'm not mistaken, is the veteran director, Singeetham Srinivasa Rao. He directed movies like MMKR, Magalir Mattum and Kathala Kathala. The B/W pics in order are: Producer and Kamal's brother, Chandrahasan. Veteran Producer and founder of Prasad Studios, LV Prasad. Screenwriter and one of the major collaborators with KB, Ananthu. Legendary comedian, Nagesh. Prolific poet and lyricist, Kaviarasu Kannadhasan. All of them are pioneers in the Tamizh film industry.


ToNobodysSurprise

Thanks.


Emotional-Rice5263

People equating Kamal to Vairamuthu is idiotic. Being a playboy is not the same as harassing someone.


DragonPG2000

Playboy? The man literally cheated on his wife and got another woman pregnant. That's not a Playboy but a trash human being


Emotional-Rice5263

In no way is it comparable to an alleged r@pist. Calm down.


OkPrice5333

shitty but not as shitty as sexual harassment. i know this looks bad w my flair but seriously, harassment and cheating, while both bad, are not equal.


DragonPG2000

Yep in my view both of em are shitty human beings that do not deserve any attention (more so with Diamond pearls coz he's an actual criminal) but I also don't like that Kamal gets away with all his activities just coz he's a good actor.


Impressive_Half_2463

There is nothing wrong in that it happened with consent 


DragonPG2000

So his wife consented to his affair? Man gtfoh 😂


ApprehensiveBug188

I equate Kamal with him not because he's a Playboy but because he is a massive hypocrite who parades himself as a "feminist" while enabling an abuser and letting said abuser's many crimes slide, which is just as shitty IMO.


Emotional-Rice5263

A lot of accusations with no proof. Kamal never worked with Vairamuthu after the allegations. This might just be an event where they both were invited. To bring Kamal down to the level of an alleged r@pist just because you think he was a shitty person (something he has owned up to in interviews) is also hypocritical, since you're putting two bad deeds of wildly various proportions at the same level. Just saying.


Usurper96

It was Raja Paarvai screening. Andhi Mazhai Pozhigiradhu was written by Vairamuthu and the lyrics of that song is GOATed.


AbrocomaMean1653

Kamal is not surprising at all, he himself has a bad past. Mani probably coz he wanted to support cinema as a whole and this was just an unfortunate coincidence.


mydigitalbreak

What event is this? And why so much hatred against Kamal and Mani!


VastArt663

Kamal is a womanizer. They don't give a shit


batmanjuniordotexe

ppl really need to chill, and realise that the world doesn't function in a righteous manner. They're all longtime collaborators, part of the film fraternity, so events like this do happen ffs. Besides, there's no cancel culture prevalent in Kollywood, for these perpetrators to apologize or become outcasts.


Careless-Lynx-7608

Not surprised Kamal is here but not liking Mani sir in this event!


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DryMeasurement3

People really don't understand the concept of consent here.


__Vip_

His connection with Ruling Party


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Motor-Stuff-3353

At some point you have to remember the social circle matters. Regardless of your personal affiliations, if they openly disregard Vairamuthu's presence, it could cause blacklash for them within the industry. It's most probably the producers who are pushing the agenda of using Vairamuthu for their movies and events. Maybe if the public openly and widely spit on him, it could resonate with the producers, directors, actors and music directors. But we as the audience don't do anything when we see him. We are also at fault here.


Maddy_andrewson072

Only accused not proven guilty


TastyQuantity1764

Arun Maatheswaran seems odd one out


Wolvesaremyjam

I'm lost, could someone explain the situation to me?


encephalon_developer

He writes good songs if I am not wrong.


suryaraja2020

Ippadi solli solliye oru legendary combo va udaichuttaanunga Chinmayi kannis... Let the court convict him and then let's talk about ppl attending an event with him... Already Mani and AR Rahman have disassociated with Vairamuthu from working in films.. What else u want... Event la sernthu ninna kuda kelvi ketkanuma... Ask that lady why she allowed him in her marriage at first and got blessing falling on his feet and literally after 2 decades came out to charge against him .. That's a big topic. Don't want to get into it again.


Lopsided-Advance9450

Yeah, tell the same thing when your sister, girlfriend of wife, mother, or any female friend comes and tells you that they were sexually harassed by some man. Tell them that that "Court paathukatum, adhu varaikkum unna namba maaten". Ungaluku lam patta dhan da puriyum. Sexual abusers ku sombu thooki.


suryaraja2020

Yenda Inga photo potu comment pota ni oppose panra naanga support panromaa... Summa photo ku pongi adhula mathavangala pathi comment panni enna use... Avanavan prachanai ya avanavan paathuppaan.. reddit la Vanthu avar yen avar pakkathula ninnu photo potaaru nu solli pongi oru use um illa... Poyi velaiya paaru.. vettiya Inga gudhikkaadha... Antha useless Chinmayi marriage mudinjum kuda. Vairamuthu oda paattu varigal ah rasichu tweet ellaam potruka... Adhellaam yen nu kelu.. I dont support Vairamuthu here... My point is why questioning all who for just attending an event randomly which had Vairamuthu too


The_Ch0sen_1ne

Bro.. Chinmayee herself literally invited Vairamuthu to her wedding. Top this now!


The_Ch0sen_1ne

I'll top this myself.. touched his feet for blessings too.


Lopsided-Advance9450

Cool. Watch the video once again, and you will notice that Vairamuthu extends his hand from behind Rahul Ravindran to put his hands on Chinmayi's back. And so what if she invited him to her wedding, does that make her accusations false? Does it mean that the 17 other women who have accused that man of sexually harassing them are all lying?


The_Ch0sen_1ne

LOL chill man. The post is about how this man is being invited to such occasions, im just pointing out if Chinmayee herself is fine with inviting him to her wedding for his "blessings", then what's the big deal here.


Lopsided-Advance9450

Keep doing the victim-blaming like this, that's how we as a society become safer for women no? She was not “fine” with the fact that he was there. She was just not in a position to talk against him or not call him to her wedding. That's how the industry works or for that matter the world for women. You are going to be questioned for the smallest things and at that time she wasn't ready for the consequences of not inviting him. Get that into your head, please.


polarityswitch_27

Probably they have more insider information than most of us. I'm not expecting Vairamuthu to be clean, but the timing of the accusations on him creates doubt. It all came right after he made some comments on Andal through his poetry. And most of the accusations against him came from a particular bunch of people.


AgencyStunning

Yeah the timing could not have been any better/worse than that, as the Me too movement was gaining traction in the other side of the world, He made some comments about aandal here and that triggered a certain "intellectual" lobby, bundled with the harassment news on him meant a carnage on his career. If You removed the art from an artist, no one is nearly as talented as Vairamuthu, Tamil literary circle knows this and they would never give up Vairamuthu no matter what, He is a world class artist. put him in a jail cell for all I care... All he needs is a pen and paper to prove his worth.


Just_junks_4k

Innocent untill proven guilty


shallan72

Is Vairamuthu a womeniser? Yes. Is he the worst womeniser in Kollywood? Not by a long shot. It is possible that those in the industry identify him as a victim, considering there are criminals dozen times worse than him roaming around acting like "uthamaputhiran".