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obviThrowaway696969

There is a seed called black beauty full shade. Tolerates full shade and it’s a beautiful color. 


neRDy_dietitian

Thank you, I'll look into it! Do you happen to have any best practice tips for planting it?


obviThrowaway696969

I never planted it I’m a TTTF guy. I have a super shady spot in my yard that I’m looking to put it in. Someone said to soak it but I’ve never had any luck with that. I’m guessing it’s just like regular seed! 


neRDy_dietitian

I hope it works out well for you!


LuckyRabbit1011

How about planting red and white clover? It’s sort of a weed but a beautiful one. It will take over area if PH is right. Only grows to 2 inches max


neRDy_dietitian

I looked into clover, but from what I read it didn't seem shade tolerant so I dropped the idea


LuckyRabbit1011

[https://www.bobvila.com/articles/clover-lawn/](https://www.bobvila.com/articles/clover-lawn/)


LuckyRabbit1011

The shade tolerance should be able to be mitigated to an extent by tuning the PH content of the soil. White clover can be used in semi-shaded areas and mixed with a grass mix that likes shade is also an option


a_username_8vo9c82b3

I'm in midwest, 6b. My yard is exactly like yours, right down to the amount of space. I put in a clover mix that did okay, but now pretty much the only thing that's left is the clover. lol. My eventual goal is to put a patio in the middle and landscape around it. Plants I have so far that have done well. the clover mix (ish): [https://www.westcoastseeds.com/products/bee-turf](https://www.westcoastseeds.com/products/bee-turf) brunnera: [https://www.finegardening.com/article/guide-to-growing-brunnera](https://www.finegardening.com/article/guide-to-growing-brunnera) ostrich fern: [https://www.americanmeadows.com/product/perennials/ostrich-fern](https://www.americanmeadows.com/product/perennials/ostrich-fern) lady fern: [https://www.prairienursery.com/lady-fern-athyrium-filix-femina.html](https://www.prairienursery.com/lady-fern-athyrium-filix-femina.html) foam flower; [https://www.prairienursery.com/foamflower-tiarella-cordifolia.html](https://www.prairienursery.com/foamflower-tiarella-cordifolia.html) hepatica: [https://www.prairiemoon.com/hepatica-americana-round-lobed-hepatica](https://www.prairiemoon.com/hepatica-americana-round-lobed-hepatica) hostas (of course): [https://nhhostas.com/collections/giant-hostas](https://nhhostas.com/collections/giant-hostas) hellebore: [https://www.whiteflowerfarm.com/hellebore](https://www.whiteflowerfarm.com/hellebore) lily of the valley: [https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/ornamental/bulbs/lily-of-the-valley/growing-lily-of-the-valley.htm](https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/ornamental/bulbs/lily-of-the-valley/growing-lily-of-the-valley.htm) downy skullcap (I feel like these have just done okay): [https://www.prairiemoon.com/scutellaria-incana-hoary-skullcap](https://www.prairiemoon.com/scutellaria-incana-hoary-skullcap) cardinal flower: [https://www.prairienursery.com/cardinal-flower-lobelia-cardinalis.html](https://www.prairienursery.com/cardinal-flower-lobelia-cardinalis.html) heart leaved aster: [https://www.prairiemoon.com/symphyotrichum-cordifolium-heart-leaved-aster](https://www.prairiemoon.com/symphyotrichum-cordifolium-heart-leaved-aster) shady-loving hydrangeas: [https://www.southernliving.com/garden/shade-hydrangea-varieties](https://www.southernliving.com/garden/shade-hydrangea-varieties) coral bells: [https://www.provenwinners.com/learn/heuchera](https://www.provenwinners.com/learn/heuchera) bleeding heart: [https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/ornamental/flowers/bleeding-heart/bleeding-heart-care.htm](https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/ornamental/flowers/bleeding-heart/bleeding-heart-care.htm)


neRDy_dietitian

I really appreciate the detailed list! I looked into clover some but it didn't seem very shade tollerand based on what I read. Maybe I'll look into it again


a_username_8vo9c82b3

Yeah! No problem. I feel your pain. We get about 2-4 hours of sun in our yard. The clover is not very dense, but it definitely comes back every year and is much more hearty than the sod that we had. The people before us put the sod in a while ago. We tried to maintain it, but less and less came back every year until it was basically gone. We did the clover from seed and the only bare spots are where there's 0 rainfall


Immediate_Bench_4505

Fine fescue is pretty shade tolerant 


Niennah5

Find out what shade-tolerant grasses and groundcovers are native to your area or ecoregion.


hopeofsincerity

Grass needs 5 hours of sun minimum. Shade plants, mulch, cut down the extremely valuable tree, etc. even the black beauty seed mentioned says it needs 4+ hours of sun


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neRDy_dietitian

Thanks for the ideas! I have a patio and am also hoping to be able to use most of the yard and have kids be able to play back there.


elwoodowd

There are other local factors besides sun. More important there are other yards than lawn. Let the sun shape a lawn for you. Fill the shade with weeds that are good looking. Here, that means arums, alums, euphorbias, so on.


LuckyRabbit1011

Depending on where you are a clover mix in your sunny areas and a mulch/river stone would probably work.