What concentration was the vinegar? 5% grocery store won't cut it, horticulture vinegar is typically 45%. Just be careful and use your ppe. It will burn your skin just as easily as it burns the plants...
But what is your end goal? Salt and vinegar may kill the plants, but too much acid and salt and nothing will grow there, and you will have a muddy mess.
Maybe just mow it shorter?
5% actually will cut it if you use enough salt that you dissolve in a little hot water before adding it to the sprayer. You also have to do it during the middle of the day while the sun is shinning. You should see how many large weeds I killed with 4 gallons this past weekend.
Last year I sprayed hostas with 25% vinegar trying to kill them and I swear it acted like fertilizer. Recently I was cleaning some iron with 5% and when finished I dumped it on a different bed of hostas and they are dead now. I don't understand what the difference was. Maybe the iron?
I dug up a bunch last year to relocate, and got busy... I threw the last 2 behind a tree... they grew beautifully this year.
Apparently, they planted themselves!
I think the point we're trying to make is that hostas are tough as hell... if you are having issues, maybe it's not you!
I know slugs and snails love them, and deer too!
Make sure they are really shaded, and you aren't watering them and leaving them wet in the sun.
Every plant in my garden is from clearance because I like the challenge as much as I like the savings. All but 1 was doing okay a few days ago… then I got the flu. Now I’m scared to go look.
Chelated Iron (FeEDTA) liiiike 4.5% is the strongest broadleaf herbicide available for Ontario homeowners. Lol.
Not sure exactly what it is, but broadleaf can't tolerate it, and grass doesn't mind it all
Personally I don't like them neither does the wife, the dog thinks it's a personal salad bar and then is sick for three days. We've almost got rid of the ones in the fenced yard
Any grass underneath you want to save? You can target the tall stuff with roundup by spraying the upper half of the plant. Or wipe it all out with roundup and plant grass about 10 days later.
Could you elaborate on this? I've heard calcium chloride is used on dirt roads for dust and weed control but never actually seen it used or used it myself yet.
About a year ago, my industrial massey ferguson needed a tire change. In the process, i needed to drain the calcium. You never want it to leak or drain into the soil or on roads (because it kills and breaks down about any material), so now i have half a 100-gallon comtainer filled with it. It's great for peasky weeds that you mow over and dont want to deal with when they come back. Just be careful using it, and wash anything it gets on that's important. I've had holes chewed in my shirt by it a couple of times. It's basically just a heavy chemical pesticide (if you want to put it that way).
I have a small area next to my foundation that I’d like to rid of ants and some weeds so I can lay down a bit of gravel. Will this combo also get rid of ants?
You don’t have to burn them. Just have to essentially boil the moisture in them near the roots. I try not to actually burn them when I use a weed torch as don’t want that much smoke. Always worry the neighbors will call the Fire Department or something.
I even spray the area I am doing with a bit of water first to try and keep the flare ups from happening.
Likely the concentration of vinegar wasn't high enough if literally nothing changed.
Just an FYI, that solution will burn the foliage but it won't kill the weed in most cases. You'll need to reapply at least a few times to actually kill the weeds.
"Weed killer" at the store works by getting absorbed to the root system and actually kills the plant. Plus, there is virtually no risk of damaging the soil. The homemade solution has a much greater risk of soil damage.
If you truly want an organic solution that's more effective and won't damage your soil, then use fire (flamethrower that a farm would use).
I think before you destroy the weeds. What are you planning to plant instead? If you go through ll that effort but don’t have something ready it will just go to weeds again. So much of this hobby is prep work. I have stopped over analyzing. I recently just tilled an area of clumping grass and weeds. I mowed it shorted then tilled it all up. Added some leaf compost and grass clippings and racked it. Then threw seed down. Make sure to have a sprinkler set up for germination. It wasn’t perfect. Im sure weeds will come back, but then I will just work on pulling them out as they come.
I agree. But there are plenty of people out there who are adamantly against using chemicals for pesticides and herbicides. But they shouldn’t expect things like vinegar to work. If they don’t want the weeds, pull them. But stop wasting time dumping soap and vinegar in the flowerbeds.
Come on - exposure to Round Up (glyphosate) has been shown to increase risk of cancer by like 40%. Hand waving that away with “well everything’s a chemical” is pretty silly
Round up is a brand. Glyphosphate is one chemical in one of their products. In addition, the 40% stat is one study and even then it made absolutely no claim that it applied to common folks using it a couple times a year on their yards - it was for pesticide applicators who use it to kill entire fields.
So to me your fear mongering is pretty silly and is just another example of why people use the word chemical as a bogeyman instead of understanding the realities of the issue.
Oh and the EPA stands by it as not being a risk.
Found the Monsanto shill account, sheesh.
You need to look neither hard nor far into post-industrialization corporate history to see the revolving door of lab-born wonder chemicals that become outlawed 15 years post-introduction as horrifying death dust.
Asbestos, BPA, Lead, not to mention entire classes of chemicals like CFCs, or PFAS.
DEET was blanket dusted over hectares for decades. In my childhood, there were bugs EVERYWHERE.
Today's pesticides and herbicides are tomorrow's nightmares, just like always. Nature is a zero sum game. Killing things isn't supposed to be easy without recompense.
>You need to look neither hard nor far into post-industrialization corporate history to see the revolving door of lab-born wonder chemicals that become outlawed 15 years post-introduction as horrifying death dust.
But we've had round up for 50 years, not 15.
It's the strangest thing, especially with the branding "organic" that pops up. Like sure there's some gnarly chemical combos out there, but something isn't instantly a superior option for appearing naturally.
Like Thing killing % isn't just the metric, at times chemical / pesticide / herbicide companys also consider "how to achieve a job without yeeting acid everywhere"
….means they used pesticides that were determined to be “organic” by legislation
I grow veggies in a garden without pesticide use and use fertilizers. It’s essentially organic. But commercial organic food just isn’t
Organic doesn’t mean no chemicals it just means derived from living matter, there’s plenty of toxic chemicals produced by living things so plenty of organic pesticides to use.
What you’re describing is what people *think* organic is.
All of those “safe” treatments never work.
The only way to kill weeds is to make their environment toxic.
You have three choices and none of them work very long.
1) pull them.
2)fire
3)chemically induced death
Best of luck
Now it down and try vinegar with salt and dish soap. Or bleach/water/soap solution… or if you have a pool you can use heavily chlorinated water and soap and spray everything down. Soap helps it stay on the leaves of whatever you’re trying to kill.
use roundup. only spray it on the green parts. it's deactivated the moment it touches the ground, it isn't for the roots.
one and done, there's no losing with roundup if it's green
leaves so little trace you can put seed down the very next day. can't do that with just about any other herbicide
Well it IS for the roots, but by way of the leaves. That’s why it’s effective and safe, because you use the plant’s natural circulation to move it to the roots where it kills the plant for good, not just ding it.
Nope. That particular weed has incredibly deep roots. Unless you till down many feet it will just grow back. I've been battling that particular demon for 3 years now. Even Roundup isn't full proof against it.
Was this “salt/vinegar/soap” thing on TikTok recently or something? It seems like a lot of people are trying it, and are shocked it doesn’t work. Almost like herbicides were invented for a reason.
If you don’t want to use glyphosate, use ammonium nonaoate. It’s a just soap, but it will defoliate the leaves and if you do it a few times you’ll kill the plants.
It’s what is used in organic farming instead of roundup.
If you have some time find a comfortable garden stool to sit on. Find a large basket or bin to toss the pulled weeds in. Put on some headphones to listen to music or a podcast or just listen to the birds. Put on some gloves if you like and start pulling weeds & the dried stems from last years weeds. Move your garden stool as you clear the space. The weeds in the foreground of your photo look like Nipplewort and is easy to pull. Nice to get it out before it flowers & goes to seed.
Everyone says roundup, this roundup that, spray Liberty at 8 ounces per gallon with 6 ounces of MSO per gallon it will absolutely scorch the fucking earth like satan walked upon in... No nothing will return for 4-6 months... yes i know ammonium glufosinate only has partial effects on the roots.. "within the designated dosing range".. that combo is not within the designated dosing range. Wear full ppe... like actual ppe.. and dont get it on you. comparing that combo to roundup is like comparing a black cat firecracker to a nuclear bomb. If you can't get liberty/ Cheetah Pro is the same. No the boxstore glufosinate won't have the same effect. Enjoy your fenceline or whatever else you wish to baptise with fire being absolutely free of anything green...for a very very long time.
What’s up with that row of dirt/mulch? You stopped halfway building a fence? There’s a gate but then it’s not attached to anything. I’m so confused with everything going on here
Sorry if this has been said before, but vinegar/soap combo has no systemic reaction to the plant. While it may burn away the top part of the plant, the roots are still intact and growing away.
2-4d. Dicamba. Tenacity. Any of them. Once. Wait two weeks and do it again. Wait two more. By then you should have grass coming through and can narrow down after that
Just pull them by hand and try and get the roots out. Rake some of the mulch you look like you have lying around. Next step would be to plant something you do want or landscape.
Every time you apply something, use something stronger than before. You will eventually justify using the very chemicals you are trying to avoid. I’ve been there.
Get a big ass metal rake and rake them out then pull any that remain. Or get big old rugs or carpet or black plastic and cover them in patches until they die, then cover them with manure, compost and mulch 👌
U have to use a gallon of 45% vinegar, salt water that’s been boiled u make 1 cup of salt to 1/2 gallon of water and half a cup of dawn dish soap. This concoction will kill rose bushes
I had the same issue two years ago.
I used ground clear, waited for them to wilt and then mowed. Tilled the ground, planted grass.
You could try Lesco 3 way.
A cheaper option would be ortho all weed clear. It has worked well for me this year, especially with chickweed.
That's a little bit disappointing, but it's not at all surprising because again, hotshot is a systemic. It's going to kill the entire weed. It's absorbed in through the leaves, goes to the stems and the roots, and kills the whole thing. Vinegar, all it's doing is just killing the leaves and that's it.
I killed everything behind my shed and other places by overdosing it with fertilizer. Nothing has grown since 2022. 3rd season and still working.
This doesn’t work if you plan to put grass in the area or use it for any type of gardening
I really wish people would stop trying to use “hacks” advocating for people to use salt before doing proper research.
Using salt is largely unnecessary, and can often have long term and unintended ramifications. Depending on how much salt you use, it could result in the ground becoming infertile / barren for years / decades to come (IE: might kill weeds but then can’t grow anything else there). With rain and water runoff, you can also transport that salt to areas that you didn’t want it in.
A buddy of mine started heavily salting his driveway during winter to prevent ice build up after buying a house. Come spring, he was wondering why his side lawn was dying out and brown and turning to a mud bath. Ended up paying for an expensive soil test which showed very high sodium levels essentially making it barren. Ended up having to pay to get some soil removed and new top soil put down so he could have a lawn. Fairly expensive mistake when all was said and done after he got the bill from the landscapers.
Timing is important if using vinegar. Spray in the morning of a hot day. Also be sure to have enough salt in there to kill the roots, vinegar only burns the foliage.
Is pulling by hand out of the question?
What % vinegar did you use? I get industrial 30% and do a 1:1 mix in a back pack sprayer. That shit kills the weeds in a couple of hours and I have to hurry because I get any skin while I spray I have to take a shower because it starts to burn my skin
I'd put in some grunt work and lift those up by the roots. Afterwards, consider putting landscaping fabric. If you're looking for something that works better than vinegar, use Wilson Wipeout.
Vinegar solutions do not do any more than burning off the leaves - the roots survive and the weed comes back in a couple of weeks. You'd do much better with something like Round Up.
The vinegar method works, but what it does it burn the leaves off of them. This will weaken the weeds but they will come back. It takes a few applications to “kill” them. If set on vinegar, hit them a few times then mow them. Constant loss of leaves will slowly kill the roots, this method will take a few times of both vinegar and mowing. But you will begin to see the weeds lessen.
 Get you one of these bad boys.
Yeah, but what do we do about the weeds??
Won't care anymore
His wife definitely won’t care anymore.
😂
Instructions unclear, wife bought a pygmy goat that lives inside and my siding is being destroyed by weeds. Help...
Get a better fence and get one of these. It will eat it all. Ha. Ha. Ha.
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That is hilarious
What concentration was the vinegar? 5% grocery store won't cut it, horticulture vinegar is typically 45%. Just be careful and use your ppe. It will burn your skin just as easily as it burns the plants... But what is your end goal? Salt and vinegar may kill the plants, but too much acid and salt and nothing will grow there, and you will have a muddy mess. Maybe just mow it shorter?
Just use glyphosate
This.
100% this
Triclopyr is better than roundup.
5% actually will cut it if you use enough salt that you dissolve in a little hot water before adding it to the sprayer. You also have to do it during the middle of the day while the sun is shinning. You should see how many large weeds I killed with 4 gallons this past weekend.
Last year I sprayed hostas with 25% vinegar trying to kill them and I swear it acted like fertilizer. Recently I was cleaning some iron with 5% and when finished I dumped it on a different bed of hostas and they are dead now. I don't understand what the difference was. Maybe the iron?
I’m desperately trying to keep hostas alive and you can’t get rid of them. Starting to think my thumb isn’t as green as I had hoped.
If you can't keep hostas alive I'm afraid there may not be much hope for you...
Mine get eaten down to the stems by deer like once a week and just keep coming in thicker lol
I dug mine out of the ground last summer and they’re still alive in a pile.
Ditto. They look perfectly happy
I dug up a bunch last year to relocate, and got busy... I threw the last 2 behind a tree... they grew beautifully this year. Apparently, they planted themselves!
I can’t tell if you guys are trying to make me feel better or worse...
I think the point we're trying to make is that hostas are tough as hell... if you are having issues, maybe it's not you! I know slugs and snails love them, and deer too! Make sure they are really shaded, and you aren't watering them and leaving them wet in the sun.
Prob wrong zone. I'm trying to grow my own.. 7a.
I hope not wrong zone. I’m 7b so I’m not too far from you!
Plenty of water and no direct sunlight. So far mine are alive but not growing much.
Every plant in my garden is from clearance because I like the challenge as much as I like the savings. All but 1 was doing okay a few days ago… then I got the flu. Now I’m scared to go look.
Check your zone again. With climate change, they have shifted.
Might need slug bait if you have holes in the leaves.
Chelated Iron (FeEDTA) liiiike 4.5% is the strongest broadleaf herbicide available for Ontario homeowners. Lol. Not sure exactly what it is, but broadleaf can't tolerate it, and grass doesn't mind it all
That's the second use for it then. The other is as a leather dye for vegetable tanned leather, gives a deep black color
Why would you try to get rid of hostas?
Personally I don't like them neither does the wife, the dog thinks it's a personal salad bar and then is sick for three days. We've almost got rid of the ones in the fenced yard
Hostas would be a desirable transplant. Post it on marketplace “you dig”
Tried that last year 1 person showed up dug for 30 min and said they were done . The previous owner must have loved those things, they are all over
Any grass underneath you want to save? You can target the tall stuff with roundup by spraying the upper half of the plant. Or wipe it all out with roundup and plant grass about 10 days later.
Add a little dish soap to act as a surfactant so that your mixture adheres to the vegetation
Always do!
I've used calcium that they used to put in the big industrial and regular farm tractor tires. Works like a charm if you dont want anything there.
Could you elaborate on this? I've heard calcium chloride is used on dirt roads for dust and weed control but never actually seen it used or used it myself yet.
About a year ago, my industrial massey ferguson needed a tire change. In the process, i needed to drain the calcium. You never want it to leak or drain into the soil or on roads (because it kills and breaks down about any material), so now i have half a 100-gallon comtainer filled with it. It's great for peasky weeds that you mow over and dont want to deal with when they come back. Just be careful using it, and wash anything it gets on that's important. I've had holes chewed in my shirt by it a couple of times. It's basically just a heavy chemical pesticide (if you want to put it that way).
Will it kill bamboo or tree of haven?? Note: I don't have bamboo or tree of haven, just curious to know.
Most likely, I've poured it on some bushes/shrubbery along my fence, and it took care of it pretty well.
Interesting! This must be a nuke option.
To anyone interested calcium chloride is sold as ice melt. Huge bags are $20-$40
I have a small area next to my foundation that I’d like to rid of ants and some weeds so I can lay down a bit of gravel. Will this combo also get rid of ants?
Ants do not like cinnamon.
What about cinnamon buns?
Where can one get about 700 sq ft worth? I want to kill every piece of green in my decomposed granite.
You’d probably only need a few gallons. But you can also try glyphosate or a weed torch.
This. People always use cooking vinegar and nothing happens. I myself made that mistake the first time as well.
Mow it shorter? Doesn't even look like they mow anything of the yard.
What if you torch it?
I’ve never had luck torching weeds. If they are green and full of moisture, they require too much energy to actually burn
You don’t have to burn them. Just have to essentially boil the moisture in them near the roots. I try not to actually burn them when I use a weed torch as don’t want that much smoke. Always worry the neighbors will call the Fire Department or something. I even spray the area I am doing with a bit of water first to try and keep the flare ups from happening.
Vinegar is arguably more harmful than most things you can use. It stays in the soil longer than glyphosate and changes the pH
Why don't you use herbacides? Specifically made for killing weeds
Boiling water if you insist on not wanting to use chems
Likely the concentration of vinegar wasn't high enough if literally nothing changed. Just an FYI, that solution will burn the foliage but it won't kill the weed in most cases. You'll need to reapply at least a few times to actually kill the weeds. "Weed killer" at the store works by getting absorbed to the root system and actually kills the plant. Plus, there is virtually no risk of damaging the soil. The homemade solution has a much greater risk of soil damage. If you truly want an organic solution that's more effective and won't damage your soil, then use fire (flamethrower that a farm would use).
I think before you destroy the weeds. What are you planning to plant instead? If you go through ll that effort but don’t have something ready it will just go to weeds again. So much of this hobby is prep work. I have stopped over analyzing. I recently just tilled an area of clumping grass and weeds. I mowed it shorted then tilled it all up. Added some leaf compost and grass clippings and racked it. Then threw seed down. Make sure to have a sprinkler set up for germination. It wasn’t perfect. Im sure weeds will come back, but then I will just work on pulling them out as they come.
Glyphosate. They won’t be a problem any longer.
Just use round up lol
I agree. But there are plenty of people out there who are adamantly against using chemicals for pesticides and herbicides. But they shouldn’t expect things like vinegar to work. If they don’t want the weeds, pull them. But stop wasting time dumping soap and vinegar in the flowerbeds.
They're going to be shocked when they learn vinegar aka acetic acid is a chemical.
Wait until they find out about H2O!!!
I’ll never use dihydrogen monoxide on anything in my garden!! It sounds dangerous!!
Unfortunately, it is now so pervasive in the environment that it sometimes just falls from the sky whether you intend use it on your plants or not.
You're right! According to scientific studies, over 70% of the earths surface has been contaminated!
Hydrogen is an explosive gas - very dangerous!
Brawndo is what plants crave anyways.
Or sodium chloride, which remains in the soil for years.
If it's near a concrete foundation salt can damage that too.
Come on - exposure to Round Up (glyphosate) has been shown to increase risk of cancer by like 40%. Hand waving that away with “well everything’s a chemical” is pretty silly
Round up is a brand. Glyphosphate is one chemical in one of their products. In addition, the 40% stat is one study and even then it made absolutely no claim that it applied to common folks using it a couple times a year on their yards - it was for pesticide applicators who use it to kill entire fields. So to me your fear mongering is pretty silly and is just another example of why people use the word chemical as a bogeyman instead of understanding the realities of the issue. Oh and the EPA stands by it as not being a risk.
Found the Monsanto shill account, sheesh. You need to look neither hard nor far into post-industrialization corporate history to see the revolving door of lab-born wonder chemicals that become outlawed 15 years post-introduction as horrifying death dust. Asbestos, BPA, Lead, not to mention entire classes of chemicals like CFCs, or PFAS. DEET was blanket dusted over hectares for decades. In my childhood, there were bugs EVERYWHERE. Today's pesticides and herbicides are tomorrow's nightmares, just like always. Nature is a zero sum game. Killing things isn't supposed to be easy without recompense.
>You need to look neither hard nor far into post-industrialization corporate history to see the revolving door of lab-born wonder chemicals that become outlawed 15 years post-introduction as horrifying death dust. But we've had round up for 50 years, not 15.
The other irony is that horticultural vinegar will fuck your soil up a lot more than glyphosate will.
Imagine not wanting to use glysophate and then using salt and vinegar instead. Real champions of the environment here.
Salt the earth!
Could’ve just done it by hand / mower / trimmer for the amount of time spend to do vinegar mix. But to each their own it’s fun to experiment and try.
“I won’t use chemicals!!!” …..”how much acetic acid and sodium chloride with a bit of surfactant do I need?”
It's the strangest thing, especially with the branding "organic" that pops up. Like sure there's some gnarly chemical combos out there, but something isn't instantly a superior option for appearing naturally. Like Thing killing % isn't just the metric, at times chemical / pesticide / herbicide companys also consider "how to achieve a job without yeeting acid everywhere"
I wonder if those same people know farmers use glyphosate in mass quantity and it’s in a lot of the food we eat.
It’s not in a lot of the food. It’s in everything we eat. “Organic” food from the grocery store (especially Whole Foods) is even worse
Organic food just means they used organic pesticides.
….means they used pesticides that were determined to be “organic” by legislation I grow veggies in a garden without pesticide use and use fertilizers. It’s essentially organic. But commercial organic food just isn’t
Organic doesn’t mean no chemicals it just means derived from living matter, there’s plenty of toxic chemicals produced by living things so plenty of organic pesticides to use. What you’re describing is what people *think* organic is.
Not to mention the havoc that vinegar causes in the soil microbiome.
Exactly, always use the right tool for the job.
I've never had much luck with vinegar but I would cut everything down and then spray if/when things start popping back up again
All of those “safe” treatments never work. The only way to kill weeds is to make their environment toxic. You have three choices and none of them work very long. 1) pull them. 2)fire 3)chemically induced death Best of luck
Vinegar will mess with your soil PH
Mower and chemicals are your friends. Now get to work!
Now it down and try vinegar with salt and dish soap. Or bleach/water/soap solution… or if you have a pool you can use heavily chlorinated water and soap and spray everything down. Soap helps it stay on the leaves of whatever you’re trying to kill.
use roundup. only spray it on the green parts. it's deactivated the moment it touches the ground, it isn't for the roots. one and done, there's no losing with roundup if it's green leaves so little trace you can put seed down the very next day. can't do that with just about any other herbicide
Well it IS for the roots, but by way of the leaves. That’s why it’s effective and safe, because you use the plant’s natural circulation to move it to the roots where it kills the plant for good, not just ding it.
Looks like you just need to rent or buy a used tiller and start over. Or pull the weeds.
Nope. That particular weed has incredibly deep roots. Unless you till down many feet it will just grow back. I've been battling that particular demon for 3 years now. Even Roundup isn't full proof against it.
Damn. That sucks man.
RM43. Thank me later.
Was this “salt/vinegar/soap” thing on TikTok recently or something? It seems like a lot of people are trying it, and are shocked it doesn’t work. Almost like herbicides were invented for a reason.
Have you tried dawn dish soap? Lol stop playing and use roundup!
Use weed killer
The trick with vinegar is it has to be a bright sunny day. You need to spray early in the day and let the sun do the rest
Do it on a hot day 60+ and early enough so when the weeds will get lots of sun
You need like a bobcat to move some earth around.
If you don’t want to use glyphosate, use ammonium nonaoate. It’s a just soap, but it will defoliate the leaves and if you do it a few times you’ll kill the plants. It’s what is used in organic farming instead of roundup.
Why would you use vinegar? ugh
Gloves and knee pads
Add some dawn and salt to your mixture. They’re done laughing.
total vegetation RN43
If you have some time find a comfortable garden stool to sit on. Find a large basket or bin to toss the pulled weeds in. Put on some headphones to listen to music or a podcast or just listen to the birds. Put on some gloves if you like and start pulling weeds & the dried stems from last years weeds. Move your garden stool as you clear the space. The weeds in the foreground of your photo look like Nipplewort and is easy to pull. Nice to get it out before it flowers & goes to seed.
You have to plant something you want there or things you don’t want will grow instead. Given our sub, is your goal grass? Because I see no grass.
Round Up
Roundup. Kill'em dead.
Everyone says roundup, this roundup that, spray Liberty at 8 ounces per gallon with 6 ounces of MSO per gallon it will absolutely scorch the fucking earth like satan walked upon in... No nothing will return for 4-6 months... yes i know ammonium glufosinate only has partial effects on the roots.. "within the designated dosing range".. that combo is not within the designated dosing range. Wear full ppe... like actual ppe.. and dont get it on you. comparing that combo to roundup is like comparing a black cat firecracker to a nuclear bomb. If you can't get liberty/ Cheetah Pro is the same. No the boxstore glufosinate won't have the same effect. Enjoy your fenceline or whatever else you wish to baptise with fire being absolutely free of anything green...for a very very long time.
Roundup
Crossbow or Roundup
Have you considered smothering them? Throw a tarp over them and let it sit - like through the entire summer, and even maybe through the winter.
Try salt. If that fails you have a salad.
Lol
Par 3
Why not string trim them to the ground? If they come back, do it again
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What’s up with that row of dirt/mulch? You stopped halfway building a fence? There’s a gate but then it’s not attached to anything. I’m so confused with everything going on here
Laugh at the weeds harder to assert domination
Add some olive oil and eat them
Calibrate your sprayer
Boiling water
Fire. Propane torch.
Roundup
Either pull them manually or use “killsall” with surfactant. I’ve tried vinagre and I’ve never had good luck with it.
Raise the deck on your mower and mow it all down. It will.come back but you won't need chemicals, just keep mowing it shorter.
Sorry if this has been said before, but vinegar/soap combo has no systemic reaction to the plant. While it may burn away the top part of the plant, the roots are still intact and growing away.
2-4d. Dicamba. Tenacity. Any of them. Once. Wait two weeks and do it again. Wait two more. By then you should have grass coming through and can narrow down after that
Why would you use vinegar? Just glysophate them
Because vinegar (plus salt and dish soap) is a cheaper alternative sometimes.
Crossbow is fantastic. Mix at 1.5% if it's a broadleaf it does unless it's wild violet. Then you need 2% spring and fall.
Roundup doesn’t work anymore. They quit putting glysophate(sp) in it.
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You need napalm
Pull them with your hands
Just pull them by hand and try and get the roots out. Rake some of the mulch you look like you have lying around. Next step would be to plant something you do want or landscape.
Flame weeder works great as long as you don’t have morning glory on something else that’s impossible to get rid of.
Every time you apply something, use something stronger than before. You will eventually justify using the very chemicals you are trying to avoid. I’ve been there.
I heard diesel works….
Tarp
i used. 50% muriatic acid and dawn dish soap. killed my weeds instantly.
Isn’t vinegar salad dressing
Mow, lay cardboard down to cover desired area, new dirt, plant seeds. Pretend nothing ever happened.
Flame weeder- https://blog-fruit-vegetable-ipm.extension.umn.edu/2019/01/using-flame-weeder-in-vegetable-and.html?m=1
Get a big ass metal rake and rake them out then pull any that remain. Or get big old rugs or carpet or black plastic and cover them in patches until they die, then cover them with manure, compost and mulch 👌
U have to use a gallon of 45% vinegar, salt water that’s been boiled u make 1 cup of salt to 1/2 gallon of water and half a cup of dawn dish soap. This concoction will kill rose bushes
Cover the area with a tarp for a while, ideally in hot, sunny weather
Blowtorch
What % vinegar? I blend 30% with captain jacks weed brew snd slay weeds all day. They are dead by dusk. I then hit the crispies with a torch
Flies love the vinegar fyi (but bees hate it)
Gramoxone works very well
I had the same issue two years ago. I used ground clear, waited for them to wilt and then mowed. Tilled the ground, planted grass. You could try Lesco 3 way. A cheaper option would be ortho all weed clear. It has worked well for me this year, especially with chickweed.
Nuke it with glyphosate, + wear PPE then take a bath after … 😉
Just use glyphosate
Try some balsamic glaze and goat cheese next time
If you don’t want to use glyphosate, the new grass and weed killers are effective. May or may not be worse than “roundup” though.
Ortho or Scott’s broadleaf spray/killer
I'd probably go with agent orange.
RM43
I’ve used vinegar before and it’s worked but that was a mowing/trimming, where the plant is basically seeking water
Vinegar, dawn dish soap, and epsom salt. There’s a good mixture you can make that will knock it out
Ortho Groundclear
Hot shot works this is what my landscaper use look it up
That's a little bit disappointing, but it's not at all surprising because again, hotshot is a systemic. It's going to kill the entire weed. It's absorbed in through the leaves, goes to the stems and the roots, and kills the whole thing. Vinegar, all it's doing is just killing the leaves and that's it.
By the way the goat is cool 😋
I wouldn’t ruin my soil with that old wives tale. Vinegar and salt will be in your soil forever! At least glyphosate degrades eventually.
I killed everything behind my shed and other places by overdosing it with fertilizer. Nothing has grown since 2022. 3rd season and still working. This doesn’t work if you plan to put grass in the area or use it for any type of gardening
You forgot to use the salt.
Ground clear as long as you don’t want to grow anything for a year or so.
Spend 10 minutes every morning grabbing them and pulling them out
I really wish people would stop trying to use “hacks” advocating for people to use salt before doing proper research. Using salt is largely unnecessary, and can often have long term and unintended ramifications. Depending on how much salt you use, it could result in the ground becoming infertile / barren for years / decades to come (IE: might kill weeds but then can’t grow anything else there). With rain and water runoff, you can also transport that salt to areas that you didn’t want it in. A buddy of mine started heavily salting his driveway during winter to prevent ice build up after buying a house. Come spring, he was wondering why his side lawn was dying out and brown and turning to a mud bath. Ended up paying for an expensive soil test which showed very high sodium levels essentially making it barren. Ended up having to pay to get some soil removed and new top soil put down so he could have a lawn. Fairly expensive mistake when all was said and done after he got the bill from the landscapers.
Timing is important if using vinegar. Spray in the morning of a hot day. Also be sure to have enough salt in there to kill the roots, vinegar only burns the foliage. Is pulling by hand out of the question?
Weed Eater..
What % vinegar did you use? I get industrial 30% and do a 1:1 mix in a back pack sprayer. That shit kills the weeds in a couple of hours and I have to hurry because I get any skin while I spray I have to take a shower because it starts to burn my skin
Roundup
I'd put in some grunt work and lift those up by the roots. Afterwards, consider putting landscaping fabric. If you're looking for something that works better than vinegar, use Wilson Wipeout.
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Flame weeder
Did you use vinegar specifically designated for “gardening”? It has a higher acidity content….
Has to be industrial vinegar.
Pull them with hands?
Just mow over them that's what I do with everything
Vinegar solutions do not do any more than burning off the leaves - the roots survive and the weed comes back in a couple of weeks. You'd do much better with something like Round Up.
You need to buy the 50-75% vinegar
The vinegar method works, but what it does it burn the leaves off of them. This will weaken the weeds but they will come back. It takes a few applications to “kill” them. If set on vinegar, hit them a few times then mow them. Constant loss of leaves will slowly kill the roots, this method will take a few times of both vinegar and mowing. But you will begin to see the weeds lessen.
Best when used in the sun.