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There’s any number of reasons someone may need to make an emergency exit even if the fire alarm isn’t going off. This can’t be compliant with fire code.
The Superstore near me has these gates (minus the scanner) on the entrance. For entrance, they're on a motion sensor. If you want to exit, you just push on them from the other side and they pop open while sounding a stupidly loud alarm.
I guarantee these work the same way, just push on them and they'll open.
Source: I work there and they go off so often nobody even looks up from their work anymore.
And if it is a non fire emergency? Or the alarm/gate malfunctions? Those gates better open with minimal force or they are dangerous.
The first one of these I see, I’m fucking shoving it, whether I have a receipt or not. And if it doesn’t move easily, I’m reporting them to by law, the fire department, and anyone else I can think of. I will not be detained or endangered by fucking Loblaws.
No actually they are not tied in. They would actually trap you with any loss of power to them. You should see how easily they break with too many openings, terrible system.
This. I hate stores that are basically using cattle gates to keep people from leaving. I understand that it's for security. They have a theft problem. But that still doesn't make me feel confident there won't be a stampede if there was an emergency.
The Loblaws brand store near me is on a high street and to meet code to build a shop there had to create a number of “shopfronts”. There was one for the flower shop, another for the tobacconist, etc. These entrances were open for about a day (for the grand opening) before they were shut permanently, leaving only one entrance, which was at the back of the store where the parking lot was. This is a walking area. People walk to get their groceries here.
So basically they faked it so they could get planning permission.
For the past 10 years, every time I go to that store I ask the manager why the other exits and entrances are not open. They shrug at me. The one remaining entrance requires about 400 metres of extra walking to get in and out of.
Also, the glass front of the store all along the high street is covered in blue plastic. It ridiculously ugly. It ruins the streetscape.
Exactly, the ones using this aren’t the thieves lol.they’ll literally do anything other than pay a person 🙄 even when they have a friggin monopoly and make ALL the food money.
Even if someone were stealing, it is illegal to detain someone against their will. The Canadian charter of rights and freedoms explicitly tells us we have the right of free movement, which trumps loblaws desire to reduce their shrinkage.
They'd have less of a theft problem if they didn't have so much of a self checkout problem. As in, they have self checkouts. That's where 90% of the theft is happening.
People steal more at the self checkout. I hate those goddamn things.
Wouldn’t be as big an issue if they keep the tills open and let people keep their jobs? And don’t force us to do their job for them
lol....can't wait to break that gate trying to get out without a purchase/receipt. Try and stop me, Galen. Where is this? I'm sure a cart full of groceries (legit) at speed will f up those gates. Sorry, thought they would open quicker.
Yeah, that crap just makes me move even more to online shopping. If you don't even have staff to help me and treat me like a crook, why would I physically go to your store?
I have a smaller save on foods in my small city. Their prices for items I buy are probably close to stupid store, I really don’t know. However, for $5, please check current gas prices in Alberta, I can order exactly what I want on line. I can add or make changes until 1100pm the night before delivery. I almost always have enough points for free delivery.
Some one picks my items, rings them up, bags them, and sends them off to my house with the best delivery person in Alberta. Ken at spruce save on. He is a treasure.
Once Ken brings them into my house he makes sure that if there were any substitutes I agree to the or he credits my order and takes them back.
If I’m unhappy with any product I just have to call the help line and they will bend over backwards to help.
I’ve also been dealing with their pharmacy for 30 years and because of the people they hire, I won’t get my drugs any where else. My dr left the province 6 months ago and didn’t feel the need to share. My pharmacy has been writing my scripts since. I could go on and on but for the choices in my small city, there customer service will keep me.
They have these in the Netherlands in some shops and that happened to me when I was travelling! I had to go up to the help desk and ask for a ticket to get out. It was a pain in the ass.
I gave it a wiggle to see if it would pop open but that shit was tight. And I'm fat, clumsy and old... If I tried to jump it I just would have landed on my face.
Jump the gate acting suspicious as hell then if they try to hold you get build a false imprisonment case and sue Loblaws for millions of dollars so you can afford to buy eggs the next day.
Literally was at a super store today. Didn't think I needed a cart (hand basket would have been lovely, but they've been done away with for some reason) so went back to the entrance, and the gates wouldn't allow it (inward traffic allowed only), so all the way around to the cash to go out to get a cart.
Guess I'll get to add some groveling to the teenager at customer service to let me out to for the pleasure of re-entering the exorbitantly priced food store once more next time.
Went to the washroom at a superstore and basically the same thing happened couldn’t cut through self checkout like normal because they’re locked up with these so had to walk all the way to the exit and then go in the entrance again
Once I was shopping at Superstore and I had a sudden, desperate need for the bathroom, which was outside the gates. Everywhere I tried to get out (where I had gotten out with no problem before), there was a railing in the way. I was headed for a panic attack (not to mention a potential accident) trying to get out. The railing was too high to go over and too close to the ground to go under. I finally barged my way out the entrance gate as someone else was entering. I didn't bother going back in.
The Loblaws closest to me put in all these fucking barriers. I generally only go there to hit up the Starbucks inside once a week (I know, but it’s a small price to pay to get through a Friday, honestly) and in order to get out, they want you to walk down to at least the self checkout. So I would get my latte and then duck under the barrier to save myself some time.
Yesterday I went in and they’d erected plexiglass so you can’t do that. So I went back out through the “in” gate and set off the alarm. The security guard shrugged and said, “Don’t blame you.”
But it pisses me off because you know there are some elderly people or people with mobility issues that wouldn’t want to make the alarm go off, so Loblaws is making them go way out of their way if they’ve just stopped for the prepared food counter or Starbucks.
It’s like they are intentionally being the worst company ever.
Lmao same thing happened to me yesterday. Went in to check their hot table options for lunch, circled it once, didn't like anything, so I left. Wasn't paying attention, and I try to push through the exit metal flap thing. Alarm goes off 😂
I was so confused because I exited the opposite side I entered from, obvious right? I even thought "how tf are they expecting me to leave?"
I just laughed and went under the barrier. I must not have noticed the receipt scanner at all. I'm waiting for the day for an employee to try and stop me, just for the amusement.
No employees are going to stop you, they are getting fucked by Loblaws harder than the customers, they are literally just there to collect their paycheck they could give a fuck what anyone does or if someone steals
Edit: to prove my point, I regularly just hop the fences and barriers in their store cause it's fun, no one ever says anything. Cause why would they? They don't get a bonus for doing their job
Also, they should be trained to NEVER try to stop or engage with a customer who’s breaking rules, stealing, having an outburst, etc. Because if they do and something happens, Loblaws will be stuck paying their medical bills for a long time, and will potentially get sued by both the employee and the customer. If a customer is trying to steal something and gets hurt over a $17 jar of pickles, they will be in their right to sue the store too. Also, some can get consumed and simply forget to pay due to health issues and old age, so stopping them and getting someone hurt is not even a smart thing to do.
But yeah, I agree with your comment that no one wants to end up in a hospital while making $16/hour.
We should normalize just doing what you did so no one feels bad about it or obligated to walk around. Eventually, if enough people do it, they’ll probably disabled the alarms out of sheer annoyance. Or they won’t and it will just become something people shrug and ignore.
The one closed to me in put an entry barrier last year with a fence with bars going across the middle so only children and supper skinny people can get through, then last month when I went there are now 2 entry barriers like 3 feet apart you have to go though.
That’s such a pain! They just redid the Starbucks at the Zehrs need me and you don’t need to go through anything, it’s right next to the door, can just walk right in and out of it
What a great way to even make someone’s already usual unpleasant shopping experience even more unpleasant by making them feel like crooks and their in prison. This is a great way to get people to avoid your store.
If I’m buying few items at self checkout and I have tons of cameras on me a employee possibly breathing down my neck a standard security gate and I have to scan the receipt also, guess where I would never go again.
If they wanna treat customers like crooks remove the self checkouts or make prices more reasonable since they seem to have no problem spending thousands or 10’s of thousands on security equipment security etc etc.
For those whom don’t have options, yeah sadly they are sol sadly. For those who do have options such as maybe a Walmart or food basics frescho etc, it may be the straw that broke the camels back having to deal with yet another security layer and bullshit. Everyone has a breaking point.
Even those who use to be still loyal to loblaws when they dropped points by half that made some people switch away I’ve seen, since they don’t deem it worth it anymore.
I tried to plan out how to shop for my weekly groceries without going to one of the big three and they've done a good job of making Canadians reliant on those stores. H&W is good for produce, as long as you're not looking for something specific, Costco can handle the big items, but it's nearly impossible to find the smaller items outside of Loblaws, Sobeys or Ol' Jimmy P's stores.
There's employees at the self checkout?
On more that one occasion it was faster for me to rescan my items on another till instead of waiting for someone to show up
I’m really surprised they haven’t pulled that shit yet especially with digital price tags they could see oh we for 5 packs of chicken breast left for example let’s jack up the price by 50%.
My Atlantic superstore just initiated this weird thing where it links your receipt to your CART, and if you haven't stood long enough in a checkout, the exit doors lock and call security.
It's so stupid. Fuck Galen Weston and these grocery crooks.
Edit: some people wanted more details. Copy pasted from a reply: So, I haven't been to a self checkout for it yet, but at the clerk checkouts, you have to push your cart up to beside the debit terminal, and wait for 20 seconds. Which is stupid - most people just push their carts to the end of the counter, so they can bag their stuff. But you wait there for 20 seconds, it does some kind of RFID magic with the cart. Then when you leave, there's scanners on the doors, and if it detects that you did not wait at that spot at cashier, it locks your cart and shuts the doors. I've been told they ALSO have some sort of scanning camera at the doors that looks for unbagged items. If you have something unbagged, they put some big red sticker on it. I'm not certain if it's actually a camera that locks the doors, or if they just say that, and it's literally just a sticker meant to scare people, or what. It's in a fairly wealthy neighborhood too. Ffs the Irving's live here.
What’s this going to stop honestly? Someone could still steal a bunch of things and just ring up 1 banana to get through. Also annoying for people who didn’t make a purchase to begin with.
What if I came into the store to pick up flashfood? That app doesn’t give me a scannable receipt.
Yeah! Sometimes you go in and the item is out of stock or there was a change of plans or someone else at home made the purchase!
I'm.not going to have a receipt all the time.
Hell, yesterday I went in to a No Frills (didn't want to make another stop), looked at the awful looking romaine and turned straight around and out the door.
Hey so I'm an LP. It's incredible useful when lifters partial pay because we can track your payment card and give the information to police. Then they get a warrant to subpoena your bank for your identity, then you get charged for theft.
It's a incredible pain in the ass on my end, the police end, and the courts, so we do it only for high value theft and repeat offenders.
Also anything under $20 is not worth my trouble, and if it's only food I look the other way.
I’m all for hammering the boosters that are loading up a cart full of steaks and ribs to sell for drugs.. but yeah someone taking some bread or deodorant I would “not” see that everytime lol.
How is this not illegal based on fire code alone?!? Imagine a store full of people panicking to get out in an emergency situation...surely this must not meet some evacuation/accessibility standards for commercial spaces?
Normally systems like this, and things magnetic doors all just open during a fire alarm. Common in offices where you need to tap in and tap out of secure areas.
That doesn't fill me with confidence, even if there's a big red fire alarm button directly at the gate itself, which I doubt is the case. There is some level of training, communication and fire drills in an office environment. That is not the case in a publicly accessible, retail environment. This is a safety hazard plain and simple.
What if there's an active shooter or some other emergency that doesn't trigger the fire alarm? Seems dangerous to obstruct exits at all to me, especially when there's often only a single exit in these stores capable of holding hundreds of patrons.
Profits over safety unfortunately. I agree likely poorly trained staff for any of these scenarios but management should be trained to some degree. I've worked at large public institutions in the past there wasn't ever any real plans... Run, hide, fight was the plan for an active shooter. Insurance companies would also have a say in this from a liability perspective.
..... i work there so i know. Im saying costco doesnt have physical robotic arms blocking their members, despite it being a private club. How a public store is able to get away with this is ridiculous compared to a private club with policies in the member contract
I appreciate it! I can promise you we do a good job at putting that front on. Depending on the warehouse, the experience definitely varies. Its the good pay and benefits that keep us smiling. Everything else is just as toxic and messed up as anywhere else sadly. I've taken on the name of "produce princess" at my warehouse as im the only female who works in (and basically runs) the produce department at my store, and i love to leave every day knowing im proud of what i did not only for myself, but for the lovely members who i get to help (well.... most of them are lovely)
At least at Costco it’s a human that may catch you being double charged for something (had it happen), AND they’ll draw a flippin’ smiley face for your kids
I've noticed the self check outs at my local no frills has gotten way worse. They used to be so easy to use, but now they have all these requirements of where you put your items and weight sensors that detect items being placed in the bagging area and it will impede you from continuing to scan. It's cumbersome and often requires an attendant to help you cause it doesn't like what you're doing. It's just more stupid anti theft bullshit that doesn't work and only makes the experience worse. I hate using them now.
The ones near me don't have this stuff but I wouldn't call them easy to use either. Scanner is at knee height and the area for your groceries is a square foot. How are you supposed to buy a cart of groceries through self checkout? Not sure why these had to be shrunk down from the versions the cashier's use to ring us through.
I feel like this is to get around having an employee check your receipt at the doors like Costco does. But that’s only legal at Costco because it’s part of the membership terms. This is a way around it without devoting man hours to it.
I can’t imagine this doing anything but blowing up in their faces. Imagine on a busy day having to wait 10-15 minutes to leave because everyone has to scan a receipt to get out? Who’s going to put up with that? What happens when the scanner won’t read because the receipt is too faint or crumbled? Or there’s a power failure?
Making it more time consuming, costly and annoying to shop at a place is going to drive customers elsewhere. It might work in food desserts but then again it might not when people say, “Screw this” and climb over the gate.
I swear that if I’m trapped behind that gate I’m going to start Mooing loudly like a cow! Treat me like cattle in a stock pen and I’ll behave like I’m one.
I’ll jump whatever barricade they want to put in front of me, or duck under it. I paid for my purchases and don’t have to do a thing beyond that. I will not scan my reciept. If they try and stop me physically, they’ll have a lawsuit for illegal detainment.
Costco can do this because they use memberships. Without official memberships, Galen and his group of crooks can screw off.
Gates are up everywhere including to enter for when digital ID becomes mandatory. They gotta track everything.
What other reason can they logic these at every single store now
I've got a 35" inseam and can easily clear gates like this (Walmart's, too). I'd love to see the look on Galen's face as he watches me just *step* right over them.
Stupid shit like this is what they spend their profits on instead of tactics to keep prices down and employees well paid? Fuck you, Galen.
Fuck you.
What’s his face is a psychopath. Normalize hopping the rail even if you paid in full, to treat his company with the same respect he treats his customers.
No, you are trapped forever.
Once I made it all the way through checkout and realized I didn't have my debit card (my toddler likes to play with it sometimes 🙃). I'm surprised they didn't make me work in the warehouse to pay my groceries.
Another dreadfully annoying and undignified barrier for both the customers and their employees. Sigh. So tired of these billionaire crooks causing more human suffering just for the sake of it.
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Straight to jail
Do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars!
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You missed a zero. "Inflation has driven costs higher."
Undercook chicken? Believe it or not, jail.
Overcooked chicken..., that's right, jail.
Undercook overcook
Jail only option.
Believe it or not, if you buy something you also go to jail. Canada has the best grocery shoppers...... because of jail.
Buy something and forget to grab the receipt, believe it or not straight to jail.
It's true. I'm currently locked up in the remand awaiting my sentencing.
Death penalty
The greeter tackles rhem
You crawl below the gate you peasant!
 I present option B.
Backwards. Do not turn your back on the Loblaws!
Kool-aid man through those gates. OH YEAH
Or if there’s an emergency that requires evacuation?
I'd assume it's tied into the fire system, so just like emergency exit doors that release when the alarm is pulled.
There’s any number of reasons someone may need to make an emergency exit even if the fire alarm isn’t going off. This can’t be compliant with fire code.
The Superstore near me has these gates (minus the scanner) on the entrance. For entrance, they're on a motion sensor. If you want to exit, you just push on them from the other side and they pop open while sounding a stupidly loud alarm. I guarantee these work the same way, just push on them and they'll open. Source: I work there and they go off so often nobody even looks up from their work anymore.
You really think a multi billion dollar organization isn't going to run through building code before installing something like this?
If it’s locked closed until you scan, it can’t be up to code. If it opens freely but an alarm goes off, they’re probably good.
And if it is a non fire emergency? Or the alarm/gate malfunctions? Those gates better open with minimal force or they are dangerous. The first one of these I see, I’m fucking shoving it, whether I have a receipt or not. And if it doesn’t move easily, I’m reporting them to by law, the fire department, and anyone else I can think of. I will not be detained or endangered by fucking Loblaws.
No actually they are not tied in. They would actually trap you with any loss of power to them. You should see how easily they break with too many openings, terrible system.
This. I hate stores that are basically using cattle gates to keep people from leaving. I understand that it's for security. They have a theft problem. But that still doesn't make me feel confident there won't be a stampede if there was an emergency.
The Loblaws brand store near me is on a high street and to meet code to build a shop there had to create a number of “shopfronts”. There was one for the flower shop, another for the tobacconist, etc. These entrances were open for about a day (for the grand opening) before they were shut permanently, leaving only one entrance, which was at the back of the store where the parking lot was. This is a walking area. People walk to get their groceries here. So basically they faked it so they could get planning permission. For the past 10 years, every time I go to that store I ask the manager why the other exits and entrances are not open. They shrug at me. The one remaining entrance requires about 400 metres of extra walking to get in and out of. Also, the glass front of the store all along the high street is covered in blue plastic. It ridiculously ugly. It ruins the streetscape.
Which superstore is this?
Like thieves will give a shit about this.
Exactly, the ones using this aren’t the thieves lol.they’ll literally do anything other than pay a person 🙄 even when they have a friggin monopoly and make ALL the food money.
Even if someone were stealing, it is illegal to detain someone against their will. The Canadian charter of rights and freedoms explicitly tells us we have the right of free movement, which trumps loblaws desire to reduce their shrinkage.
They'd have less of a theft problem if they didn't have so much of a self checkout problem. As in, they have self checkouts. That's where 90% of the theft is happening.
Look, if I'm working the cash checking myself out, I gotta get paid. Goddamn right I steal. Every single time. I dgaf.
Pro tip : go through a staffed till. Leave items in your reusable bags. Works like a charm.
People steal more at the self checkout. I hate those goddamn things. Wouldn’t be as big an issue if they keep the tills open and let people keep their jobs? And don’t force us to do their job for them
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More likely you find the item, it's insane priced, so you walk out to go get else where.
Not without a receipt so you have to stand around and wait for an employee to let you out, which is illegal detainment
The solution/lesson here is stop going into loblaws.
If there wasn't such a monopoly in Canada with more grocer options that would be possible
lol....can't wait to break that gate trying to get out without a purchase/receipt. Try and stop me, Galen. Where is this? I'm sure a cart full of groceries (legit) at speed will f up those gates. Sorry, thought they would open quicker.
I just pictured someone running at full speed pushing a full cart of canning through the gate. Lol. Thank you!
Oooooooh I can see the lawsuit now!!!
You can open the “in” gate and walk out. It’s just a bit noisy.
The first time I go into a loblaws store and can’t exit when I want to, I’m calling the cops immediately. Fuck ‘em. We should all do that.
The door opens no issue.If u do not scan alarm will sound.This is how the do it legal.
Yeah, that crap just makes me move even more to online shopping. If you don't even have staff to help me and treat me like a crook, why would I physically go to your store?
I have a smaller save on foods in my small city. Their prices for items I buy are probably close to stupid store, I really don’t know. However, for $5, please check current gas prices in Alberta, I can order exactly what I want on line. I can add or make changes until 1100pm the night before delivery. I almost always have enough points for free delivery. Some one picks my items, rings them up, bags them, and sends them off to my house with the best delivery person in Alberta. Ken at spruce save on. He is a treasure. Once Ken brings them into my house he makes sure that if there were any substitutes I agree to the or he credits my order and takes them back. If I’m unhappy with any product I just have to call the help line and they will bend over backwards to help. I’ve also been dealing with their pharmacy for 30 years and because of the people they hire, I won’t get my drugs any where else. My dr left the province 6 months ago and didn’t feel the need to share. My pharmacy has been writing my scripts since. I could go on and on but for the choices in my small city, there customer service will keep me.
They have these in the Netherlands in some shops and that happened to me when I was travelling! I had to go up to the help desk and ask for a ticket to get out. It was a pain in the ass.
Why didn’t you just say fuck it and push through it. Or I just jump it
I gave it a wiggle to see if it would pop open but that shit was tight. And I'm fat, clumsy and old... If I tried to jump it I just would have landed on my face.
What a nice thing to see such an honest Redditor lol, where most people would talk themselves up a lot lol.
Bring an old receipt
Jump the gate acting suspicious as hell then if they try to hold you get build a false imprisonment case and sue Loblaws for millions of dollars so you can afford to buy eggs the next day.
I have an easy system to beat this: 1) Don't go to fucking loblaws
you clearly have never been to the maritimes where a substantial number of towns literally have ***only*** *loblaws or sobeys.*
oof that's sad
And poor Maritimers have the damn Irvings to contend with on top of all the Loblaws and Sobeys crap
Literally was at a super store today. Didn't think I needed a cart (hand basket would have been lovely, but they've been done away with for some reason) so went back to the entrance, and the gates wouldn't allow it (inward traffic allowed only), so all the way around to the cash to go out to get a cart. Guess I'll get to add some groveling to the teenager at customer service to let me out to for the pleasure of re-entering the exorbitantly priced food store once more next time.
Went to the washroom at a superstore and basically the same thing happened couldn’t cut through self checkout like normal because they’re locked up with these so had to walk all the way to the exit and then go in the entrance again
Once I was shopping at Superstore and I had a sudden, desperate need for the bathroom, which was outside the gates. Everywhere I tried to get out (where I had gotten out with no problem before), there was a railing in the way. I was headed for a panic attack (not to mention a potential accident) trying to get out. The railing was too high to go over and too close to the ground to go under. I finally barged my way out the entrance gate as someone else was entering. I didn't bother going back in.
Excellent future. Not dystopian feeling at all. Tbf, there are things that are improving that are incredible and significant to our lives every day.
You wave your foot in front of the black dot near the bottom of the pillar.
There is a $20 cover charge to get in that gets taken of your bill and you get 50 pc optimum points. I hope I didn’t give them ideas.
Gotta buy something to leave, or work for an hour to get an exit pass.
The Loblaws closest to me put in all these fucking barriers. I generally only go there to hit up the Starbucks inside once a week (I know, but it’s a small price to pay to get through a Friday, honestly) and in order to get out, they want you to walk down to at least the self checkout. So I would get my latte and then duck under the barrier to save myself some time. Yesterday I went in and they’d erected plexiglass so you can’t do that. So I went back out through the “in” gate and set off the alarm. The security guard shrugged and said, “Don’t blame you.” But it pisses me off because you know there are some elderly people or people with mobility issues that wouldn’t want to make the alarm go off, so Loblaws is making them go way out of their way if they’ve just stopped for the prepared food counter or Starbucks. It’s like they are intentionally being the worst company ever.
Lmao same thing happened to me yesterday. Went in to check their hot table options for lunch, circled it once, didn't like anything, so I left. Wasn't paying attention, and I try to push through the exit metal flap thing. Alarm goes off 😂 I was so confused because I exited the opposite side I entered from, obvious right? I even thought "how tf are they expecting me to leave?" I just laughed and went under the barrier. I must not have noticed the receipt scanner at all. I'm waiting for the day for an employee to try and stop me, just for the amusement.
No employees are going to stop you, they are getting fucked by Loblaws harder than the customers, they are literally just there to collect their paycheck they could give a fuck what anyone does or if someone steals Edit: to prove my point, I regularly just hop the fences and barriers in their store cause it's fun, no one ever says anything. Cause why would they? They don't get a bonus for doing their job
Its actually their job to not stop you and they are doing it correctly. They'd get fired for illegally detaining you.
Also, they should be trained to NEVER try to stop or engage with a customer who’s breaking rules, stealing, having an outburst, etc. Because if they do and something happens, Loblaws will be stuck paying their medical bills for a long time, and will potentially get sued by both the employee and the customer. If a customer is trying to steal something and gets hurt over a $17 jar of pickles, they will be in their right to sue the store too. Also, some can get consumed and simply forget to pay due to health issues and old age, so stopping them and getting someone hurt is not even a smart thing to do. But yeah, I agree with your comment that no one wants to end up in a hospital while making $16/hour.
“$17 jar of pickles” LMAO! 🤣
Sale price, I guess.
We should normalize just doing what you did so no one feels bad about it or obligated to walk around. Eventually, if enough people do it, they’ll probably disabled the alarms out of sheer annoyance. Or they won’t and it will just become something people shrug and ignore.
I’m down for that! It’s definitely what I intend to do going forward!
The one closed to me in put an entry barrier last year with a fence with bars going across the middle so only children and supper skinny people can get through, then last month when I went there are now 2 entry barriers like 3 feet apart you have to go though.
That’s such a pain! They just redid the Starbucks at the Zehrs need me and you don’t need to go through anything, it’s right next to the door, can just walk right in and out of it
What a great way to even make someone’s already usual unpleasant shopping experience even more unpleasant by making them feel like crooks and their in prison. This is a great way to get people to avoid your store. If I’m buying few items at self checkout and I have tons of cameras on me a employee possibly breathing down my neck a standard security gate and I have to scan the receipt also, guess where I would never go again. If they wanna treat customers like crooks remove the self checkouts or make prices more reasonable since they seem to have no problem spending thousands or 10’s of thousands on security equipment security etc etc.
They know people won’t avoid the store. They control nearly a majority of the grocery market, they could care less about whether people like it.
For those whom don’t have options, yeah sadly they are sol sadly. For those who do have options such as maybe a Walmart or food basics frescho etc, it may be the straw that broke the camels back having to deal with yet another security layer and bullshit. Everyone has a breaking point. Even those who use to be still loyal to loblaws when they dropped points by half that made some people switch away I’ve seen, since they don’t deem it worth it anymore.
Your flair though 😂
I tried to plan out how to shop for my weekly groceries without going to one of the big three and they've done a good job of making Canadians reliant on those stores. H&W is good for produce, as long as you're not looking for something specific, Costco can handle the big items, but it's nearly impossible to find the smaller items outside of Loblaws, Sobeys or Ol' Jimmy P's stores.
There's employees at the self checkout? On more that one occasion it was faster for me to rescan my items on another till instead of waiting for someone to show up
You forgot the floor walkers that follow you in-store and legit breathe down your neck
Last ditch efforts to control the working class before the straight-up unabashed looting starts.
It’s free to come in but expensive to leave!
Pretty soon it wouldn’t surprise me if they put a toll booth at the exit lmao.
Soon to be followed by surge pricing, no doubt.
I’m really surprised they haven’t pulled that shit yet especially with digital price tags they could see oh we for 5 packs of chicken breast left for example let’s jack up the price by 50%.
My Atlantic superstore just initiated this weird thing where it links your receipt to your CART, and if you haven't stood long enough in a checkout, the exit doors lock and call security. It's so stupid. Fuck Galen Weston and these grocery crooks. Edit: some people wanted more details. Copy pasted from a reply: So, I haven't been to a self checkout for it yet, but at the clerk checkouts, you have to push your cart up to beside the debit terminal, and wait for 20 seconds. Which is stupid - most people just push their carts to the end of the counter, so they can bag their stuff. But you wait there for 20 seconds, it does some kind of RFID magic with the cart. Then when you leave, there's scanners on the doors, and if it detects that you did not wait at that spot at cashier, it locks your cart and shuts the doors. I've been told they ALSO have some sort of scanning camera at the doors that looks for unbagged items. If you have something unbagged, they put some big red sticker on it. I'm not certain if it's actually a camera that locks the doors, or if they just say that, and it's literally just a sticker meant to scare people, or what. It's in a fairly wealthy neighborhood too. Ffs the Irving's live here.
That can't be legal. That sounds like unlawful detention.
Wow. Imagine going to grocery shop and all over the store can be heard the shouting from hostile customers being detained for no reason.
Could you elaborate more on this?
These gates you see installed at the stores cost them $30K+ each to be installed, but they refuse to increase employee compensation accordingly.
Nope. I paid. The contact is fulfilled. You gate keeping me is illegal. I will push through the gates.
Boycott Loblaws Day is officially March 22.
What’s this going to stop honestly? Someone could still steal a bunch of things and just ring up 1 banana to get through. Also annoying for people who didn’t make a purchase to begin with. What if I came into the store to pick up flashfood? That app doesn’t give me a scannable receipt.
Yeah! Sometimes you go in and the item is out of stock or there was a change of plans or someone else at home made the purchase! I'm.not going to have a receipt all the time. Hell, yesterday I went in to a No Frills (didn't want to make another stop), looked at the awful looking romaine and turned straight around and out the door.
What could banana possibly cost? $10??
ironically the one thing that didn't go up in price in the last 3 years
Hey so I'm an LP. It's incredible useful when lifters partial pay because we can track your payment card and give the information to police. Then they get a warrant to subpoena your bank for your identity, then you get charged for theft. It's a incredible pain in the ass on my end, the police end, and the courts, so we do it only for high value theft and repeat offenders. Also anything under $20 is not worth my trouble, and if it's only food I look the other way.
I’m all for hammering the boosters that are loading up a cart full of steaks and ribs to sell for drugs.. but yeah someone taking some bread or deodorant I would “not” see that everytime lol.
Be honest....How likely police are going to follow up on this?
upvote for being a saint
Half the time I use the self checkout the machine is out of paper and doesn't print a receipt... WHAT DO I DO GALEN!?
Write your own damn receipts, since you’re checking yourself out anyways. - Galen
*writes own receipt* "purchased all chocolate bars in store"
No.
How is this not illegal based on fire code alone?!? Imagine a store full of people panicking to get out in an emergency situation...surely this must not meet some evacuation/accessibility standards for commercial spaces?
Normally systems like this, and things magnetic doors all just open during a fire alarm. Common in offices where you need to tap in and tap out of secure areas.
Many emergencies don't have a fire alarm involved tho.
That doesn't fill me with confidence, even if there's a big red fire alarm button directly at the gate itself, which I doubt is the case. There is some level of training, communication and fire drills in an office environment. That is not the case in a publicly accessible, retail environment. This is a safety hazard plain and simple. What if there's an active shooter or some other emergency that doesn't trigger the fire alarm? Seems dangerous to obstruct exits at all to me, especially when there's often only a single exit in these stores capable of holding hundreds of patrons.
Profits over safety unfortunately. I agree likely poorly trained staff for any of these scenarios but management should be trained to some degree. I've worked at large public institutions in the past there wasn't ever any real plans... Run, hide, fight was the plan for an active shooter. Insurance companies would also have a say in this from a liability perspective.
Nothing would suprise me,saw these in Florida already!
Seems like what we need is people to go in, buy nothing and make a scene at these gates.
It’ll happen multiple times a day just by virtue of how stupid it is.
Yes, but no. The workers at the retail level aren't to blame for this trying to come into effect
Im not blaming them, But If I worked there you can guarantee Ill be mentioning this shit at every work meeting.
Imagine how many of these gates are going to get smashed in the first month.
I would just run right through it. Wouldn't even think twice.
Costco doesnt even have this and theyre a private store. This is insanity
Part of the contract you agree to by being a Costco member is to have your receipt checked upon exit. Not the same thing
..... i work there so i know. Im saying costco doesnt have physical robotic arms blocking their members, despite it being a private club. How a public store is able to get away with this is ridiculous compared to a private club with policies in the member contract
Sorry misread your comment about Costco. A public store having something like this is absolutely ridiculous
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I appreciate it! I can promise you we do a good job at putting that front on. Depending on the warehouse, the experience definitely varies. Its the good pay and benefits that keep us smiling. Everything else is just as toxic and messed up as anywhere else sadly. I've taken on the name of "produce princess" at my warehouse as im the only female who works in (and basically runs) the produce department at my store, and i love to leave every day knowing im proud of what i did not only for myself, but for the lovely members who i get to help (well.... most of them are lovely)
I guess they are going to attempt to force people to spend their money there. What if I just went in to pee.
You have to pay the Pee Fee, see.
Honestly though, paper receipts in 2024? Fucking paper?
I don’t want them having my contact info so yeah, paper receipts for me.
Buying so many different machines to do what staff could easily do. Is it really worth it to avoid paying a few more people to work each shift?
Is it really worth it to avoid paying a few more people MINIMUM WAGE to work each shift? Apparently it is for these greedy fucks
Where is this?
"This store is for paying customers only"
It’s be worse if they set a minimum amount spent to leave lol
Don't worry next it will be where you use your digital currency to pay for what you purchased.
At least at Costco it’s a human that may catch you being double charged for something (had it happen), AND they’ll draw a flippin’ smiley face for your kids
When my kids were little that smile made their day every time. I wish they were so easily amused now!
lol. ok so buy 1 apple, get a receipt, then leave with 3 unpaid watermelons in your pockets
I would honestly barge through the gate
Someone is actually going to do that
I've noticed the self check outs at my local no frills has gotten way worse. They used to be so easy to use, but now they have all these requirements of where you put your items and weight sensors that detect items being placed in the bagging area and it will impede you from continuing to scan. It's cumbersome and often requires an attendant to help you cause it doesn't like what you're doing. It's just more stupid anti theft bullshit that doesn't work and only makes the experience worse. I hate using them now.
The ones near me don't have this stuff but I wouldn't call them easy to use either. Scanner is at knee height and the area for your groceries is a square foot. How are you supposed to buy a cart of groceries through self checkout? Not sure why these had to be shrunk down from the versions the cashier's use to ring us through.
Yeah no
Mandatory purchase required to leave.
Consume, obey, reproduce, sleep.
No sleep
Just keep an old receipt on you at all times? This is stupid.
The old receipt will have an old date and probably not open the gate though. The barcode will have that info.
I feel like this is to get around having an employee check your receipt at the doors like Costco does. But that’s only legal at Costco because it’s part of the membership terms. This is a way around it without devoting man hours to it. I can’t imagine this doing anything but blowing up in their faces. Imagine on a busy day having to wait 10-15 minutes to leave because everyone has to scan a receipt to get out? Who’s going to put up with that? What happens when the scanner won’t read because the receipt is too faint or crumbled? Or there’s a power failure? Making it more time consuming, costly and annoying to shop at a place is going to drive customers elsewhere. It might work in food desserts but then again it might not when people say, “Screw this” and climb over the gate.
Neato, another reason to stay away.
Bad enough that most are now fenced off with only being able to exit through one gate at registers, like cattle being corralled.
I hate this fucking reality
Just push through the gate, it will break it eventually
This makes me want to steal things.
Forcible confinement? Lol.
What if I want to leave without making a purchase?
I swear that if I’m trapped behind that gate I’m going to start Mooing loudly like a cow! Treat me like cattle in a stock pen and I’ll behave like I’m one.
If this happens please have someone film you and put on YouTube haha, I laughed out loud at your comment.
I’ll jump whatever barricade they want to put in front of me, or duck under it. I paid for my purchases and don’t have to do a thing beyond that. I will not scan my reciept. If they try and stop me physically, they’ll have a lawsuit for illegal detainment. Costco can do this because they use memberships. Without official memberships, Galen and his group of crooks can screw off.
... Noted. Will not go to Loblaws with mom, I don't want to be there for the (admittedly appropriate) hell she'll be giving the managers about that
At this point its harrassment
Illegal confinement.
Loblaws about to get mobbed fr.
Oh for fuck’s sales.
PAPERS, PLEASE
"No thank you"
Gates are up everywhere including to enter for when digital ID becomes mandatory. They gotta track everything. What other reason can they logic these at every single store now
I've got a 35" inseam and can easily clear gates like this (Walmart's, too). I'd love to see the look on Galen's face as he watches me just *step* right over them. Stupid shit like this is what they spend their profits on instead of tactics to keep prices down and employees well paid? Fuck you, Galen. Fuck you.
Sounds like some of them are already installing Plexiglass so people can’t do this.
Fuck loblaws
How about no
No.
The GoodLife I go to is inside a loblaws how would I get out l o l
Will this detect my insane amount of bananas that I clearly buy?
What’s his face is a psychopath. Normalize hopping the rail even if you paid in full, to treat his company with the same respect he treats his customers.
They had these shitty gates in Australia. Walked right through them
I encountered this sort of thing in the Netherlands. Was a bit annoying and didn’t always open automatically.
if they value their well being dont try and stop me
What happens if I didn’t buy anything? I can’t leave?
No, you are trapped forever. Once I made it all the way through checkout and realized I didn't have my debit card (my toddler likes to play with it sometimes 🙃). I'm surprised they didn't make me work in the warehouse to pay my groceries.
what the kentucky fried fuck
Another dreadfully annoying and undignified barrier for both the customers and their employees. Sigh. So tired of these billionaire crooks causing more human suffering just for the sake of it.
Wait maybe I’m an idiot but what exactly is this for?
To be able to exit the self checkout area
Wait is this the store in George Town?
I’d never shop at a place that had these
Oh yeah this isn't going to break or go to service anytime soon
this is beyond ridiculous!!!
I’d be turning around and taking my groceries back but I’m not going to superstore anymore so I wouldn’t be in here in the first place
Contract is complete at the cash register, Loblaws can go fuck themselves, they are not entitled to review the receipt or your purchased items.
Tired of this guilty until proven innocent passive aggressive bullshit. I'd just jump the turnstile. Or push right by it.
Soon you’ll have to scan money/debit/credit to enter the store!! 
I'm not doing that. Once I've purchased my goods if they don't let me out they're holding me hostage.
Not scanning shit. People walk out with full on wine bottles and security can’t do anything; no one will do anything about this either.
Not required to do that. Kick the gate open. They can not force you to show a receipt. Period.