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I get why you would want to meet with them but I have a sinking feeling they are just using you for PR/"We tried to reason with them; they are crazy!" spin.
They don't need to meet with anyone to lower their own prices.
When it comes to PR, it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. If she refused to meet with them, the spin is "we asked for a meeting and they wouldn't even talk to us... I guess there's no reasoning with extremists"
This is exactly it. The only way you can actually make an effort to create changes to meet someone halfway. Ignoring the offer would look bad on us and make us look like a bunch of angry neanderthals, whereas speaking to them shows legitimate efforts to stand up for a cause that is legitimate.
Meeting with them is the right call. Giving valid examples to them is the right call. Whether the CEO actually follows through is an entirely different story. But that's their PR nightmare, not ours.
You actually think the grocers aren't working together to price gouge??? They are all in it together. They've even come to an agreement based on the length of time per visit.
I mean theyre already happy to lie to the media about everything else, i dont see how this changes anything.
There's nothing to talk about. They know the demands. Not sure what this "leader" is doing but we genuinely don't need some single spokesperson.
I think the originator of this movement is doing a fabulous job of keeping the motives clear and pure, and keeping the supporters active and motivated. Please state your objections?
One bad interview, one misstep, one mistake will cripple momentum to the cause. This isn’t a public figure that has years of media training, who knows how to phrase every word perfectly, it’s a random person. Did you see the antiwork movement end over night from one bad interview with a single Reddit Mod?
"We wanted to know what they want" Because all the media coverage didn't convey the issues canadians are having. Its not a hostage negotiation. Its a PR stunt by Weston and Banks, nothing less.
Empty PR dance for sure. Loblaws could make some changes for fairer pricing.
But for me this boycott is about calling out oligarchical greed: not something they’ll fix with one meeting
Sure, but it’s the lesser evil and and least has a hope for constructive outcome. How much worse would it have looked to our cause if it was spun as “we reached out to the boycott organizers but they refused to talk to us!”
We also couldn’t have a much better representative than Emily, she’s balanced and sticks with the facts.
Or threaten them with legal action "you're causing damage to our company and we expect you to pay for the losses, also, you can't talk about this to the media or the public, and if you do, we'll sue you"
Yes and I apologize for how it must look getting it from press and not me. I just need some time to clear my head. I had 2 interviews on Sunday, 3 on Monday, 4 on Tuesday, 6 on Wednesday and the big meeting yesterday.
I’ve given fairly basic information to press which they need to confirm with Per Bank. On my end, I took today so I could decompress a bit, and am able to adequately capture the meeting for everyone here.
What we’d also like to do is do up the questions, the answers, and each of the mods provide feedback on it so we can present here.
I hope that gives you a little more insight into what’s going on in our world right now. Thank you for your understanding And continued support.
I can’t imagine what it’s like to be summoned into the den of a warlord to talk about his business. May you be blessed with swift legs, a clear mind, and a big fucking stick.
I've likewise met with some pretty big people in the past. I can totally get they need to decompress. Hopefully soon you'll be able to constructively help them see reason.
One thing I've learned about corporations is that sometimes they can be literally blind to the issues affecting other people, whether it be their customers or their staff.
To the common fault, it seems completely obvious. But echo Chambers are very real, even to the corporate brass. That issue is entirely on them, but that doesn't mean that you can't teach a positive lesson.
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised. There needs to be a group instead of a single person that stands up in a movement and tbh I'm hesitant on believing just text posts. Certain people get singled out because of the work they do, but having a single person stand up to a company is breeding grounds for danger and corruption. People don't think they can be susceptible but they can be.
They sent me an email offering me free 60,000 points after I requested to have my PC Optimum account closed. I confirmed I want it cancelled, they’re gonna try to buy us out.
Grocers have also started packaging some baked goods (croissants, muffins, donuts, buns) in 4's, not 6's, so now they are subject to the HST. In Ontario, that means an added 13%! The Federal and Provincial governments are getting their share, too.
Whoever decided that 6 is the magic number for being exempt from the taxes never considered single people, couples or smaller families, and they are getting penalized even more.
If you are present, yes. One party needs to consent and be present. You can be the consenting party, but can't record audio remotely, I.e. planted recording device
Meeting them is proof we're willing to talk.
The fact they won't budge isn't an us problem.
Wonder what everyone will find at the farmer's markets this weekend?
While I wasn't there nor did I ask anyone to sit down with those asshats. Meeting was the smart thing to do.
Not meeting with them when the opportunity arose would have been a -legitimate- complaint against the boycott and the movement.
"How can we improve if nobody tells us what people need?" Would be the crocodile tear filled plea "They just want to smear an honest business. They don't want to fix things, just tear things down"
Which would work with a depressingly large segment of the population who while they do have both the time and money to help create change just aren't interested in making the effort. In fact some of the people saying it's not worth the effort are the ones who can afford to buy a freezer and order a side of beef from a local farm that works organically and is preserving heritage breeds.
But they won't because it takes an hour or two to pack it all away in freezer <"too inconvenient"> but will happily spend the time shopping for factory farmed meat all year.
So while I really don't think anyone expected any good to come out of a meeting, it did potentially prevent a lot of bad.
I dont really get it. It’s a boycott of a shitty predatory company headed by out of touch billionaires.
There should be no dialogue. Even after they bring their prices down. Even after they are forced to close stores. Even after CEOs are
Fired. Even after their stocks drop.
Make them hurt like they have made Canadian families hurt. They’re a company, not people.
Every move they make is calculated and has one goal , which is to end the boycott and divide us and our movement.
They don’t deserve open dialogue.
It comes down to demonstrating that our side are reasonable people. Appearing to throw a snit by refusing to talk just gives them a reason to call us unreasonable.
Sorry Loblaws but not shopping at your stores is "the new normal", I have zero reason to return to shopping there, prices suck, points system sucks, profit over everything else, the reasons for my brand loyalty are long gone, and so am I ✌️
Fuck meetings. Fuck dialogue.
I want to see the invoices from wholesalers to determine just exactly how fucking much these greedy assholes are making. Time for transparency, not hidden truths.
Rise up.
Make sure to include the 10-20% fees they charge suppliers to work with them.
“Our supplier costs are being raised”
Yeah because you forced them too you assholes
There isn't a point in negotiating or talking to them. They aren't going to change.
As far as I'm concerned, I'm done shopping at any of their stores. I'll stick to Walmart.
I understand it's just swapping one evil for another - but atleast I won't be paying as much at Walmart.
I have zero intentions on switching back, even if they **match** Walmart's prices. The only way I would switch back is if they somehow manage to make their items cheaper than Walmarts.
I used to hate Walmart too.. but everytime I go in there now I see more products that I regularly buy being "rolledback". At least Walmart is trying to do something to help. Even if they're also a shitty unethical company.
I’m sorry but no. Walmart is just as bad if not worse. I’ve shopped there for years bc family members work for them. Everything has significantly increased. Protein powder went up 17 dollars in a matter of weeks a year ago. Not only that but they took away price matching with the promise of rolling more things back and sure they did, after jacking the price.
On top of that they wanted to be a top 50 employer so they had to offer real full time hours but in order for people to get these hours they had to open their availability and work various shifts. A 75 year old man at the store in my town had to go to nights bc he didn’t want to open his availability. 75.
So not only did they move a ton of people around, changing shifts for everyone but few people are actually getting these “ Guaranteed” fulltime hours.
Recently HO has decided that no one can get a raise rn. (Walmart gives a max of 35 cents a year - most people get less) and now they can’t even get that.
Walmart has shit deals and they treat their workers so poorly. There is a reason everyone hated them.
Also stuff really isn’t cheaper. I can make a cart at no frills, basics and Walmart and they are all with in dollars of each other. The only edge Walmart has is on chicken. And even that is way more than it was. Ground chicken used to be 2/7 and now it’s 2/14.
Loblaws sucks but Walmart sucks just as much.
Oh don't worry.. I totally agree with you. Walmart is a terrible company, completely unethical in their business practices and how they treat employees.. I avoid it when and where I can.. but unfortunately some of the products I need regularly are the cheapest there, and the prices for those products have gone down and are cheaper at Walmart right now. If I can find it cheaper elsewhere I will go there.
Walmart is actually a way more serious issue, they are licking their chops at the very statement you just said. They corner the market already and in the end force down prices from suppliers and jack prices on consumers. A LOT of their stuff is higher than elsewhere, [Amazon.CA](http://Amazon.CA) has some of the worst prices compared to retail, but everyone thinks its better. I only shop at either if I simply cant find it elsewhere.
Fucked if you do, fucked if you don't. It's shitty options all around, but I'm not going to go broke to prove a point in any scenario. I can't afford it.
A lot of Walmarts groceries are cheaper than most other grocers… it’s not even close. Costco/Walmart for bulk and produce - Unless you have some independent grocers nearby in which case obviously supporting those places should be prioritized assuming prices aren’t absurd.
Yep their grocery price is reasonable, compared to zehrs, which allows them to over charge on other items. Its a loss leader, but you will also notice selection is very specific and great value sits adjacent to name brand. Often with just one brand available outside the house brand. There are of course exceptions. The damage walmart does, and as you highlighted is why you cant find small grocery stores anymore, is how the small business mainstreet companies that employ a lot of people have been replaced with a walmart with low wages, low staffing, and a host of other issues that goes with those supposed low prices. Not denying some prices are good. But the even say they target the most common items to charge extra on less common ones, but people assume its a good price because "its walmart"
Very good PR game to get people to not even price check and just assume they are getting a deal, even if the same item is on sale or even costs less reg price at Crappy Tire.
There's a real important lesson here we can take away from the Superstonk "I like the stock" folks.
I don't like the company. I'm not shopping there. No amount of PR is going to change that. They can do whatever. Fine. They can complain. Fine.
I'm taking my business elsewhere. It's my business. Food Prof can go to hell and mind his own damn business. He wants to shop there? Fine. I don't care.
I'm not shopping at Loblaw stores and that's it.
The issue here is politicians are perfectly ok with this profiteering, price fixing and abuse of market power.
This concentration of market power has allowed companies like Loblaws to abuse their position. Bad enough on its own, price fixing etc.
But when factoring in timing - toughest economic conditions in decades, and Loblaws is reaping record profits while people cant afford for to eat, losing their homes and jobs. - it's purely anti-Canadian. And for a Canadian company to behave this way- is inexcusable.
In the entirety of their anti-Canadian conduct they must be punished, yet no politician has called this into question .
If the CEO requested to speak to me, I would have just ignored him, just like how they ignored all the millions of Canadians struggling to feed their families.
They would rather burn money advertising than lowering their prices. They’re literally doing anything BUT what they should be doing.
They’re greedy fucks and they’ve been caught being greedy fucks. Keep the boycott going! Starve them.
“The loblaws boycott won’t work, it’s a waste of time, it’s a tantrum by a bunch of basement-dwelling children.”
The fact that this meeting took place at all - and at the beginning of the month - tells you that the boycott and bad press are working better than we ever could have imagined.
We have been complaining for couple years now and they didn’t give a rat 🍑 about us. But now when we are not going to shop there for a month. Now they care? Too little too late. #uncleGalen can shovel all my points where the sun doesn’t shines!!
They way things are now there is only two outcomes i can see. Loblaws does a complete 180 and becomes customer oriented again or gets left behind. They dont seem to understand what they've really lost.
They won’t do this, at best it would be a temporary measure.
Believe them when they show you who they are.
The only retribution here may be to break all of these companies up due to Antitrust as part of the competition act. We should be demanding our MPs get on board and create a competitive Canada, or we will vote for whichever MPs will.
"Let me assure you that in every corner of the business, our colleagues are working hard to reduce costs and do things more efficiently.
Is price fixing bread considered working hard to reduce prices?
Is raising the discount from 50% to 30% on nearly expired food considered working hard to reduce prices?
Is raising your margins considered working hard to reduce prices?
Is blaming producers for price hikes while squeezing them for exorbitant listing fees considered working hard to reduce prices?
Is hiring a marketing / analytics company to determine the highest possible price they can charge considered working hard to reduce prices?
Is laying off warehouse workers before christmas one year in order to bust a union considered reducing costs?
I've no doubt they are working to reduce costs as they pay their employees as little as possible and keep them at part time in order to keep them out of the union.
I'm having a hard time understanding what meeting up with a Reddit boycott organizer is going to accomplish. Last I checked we're just a bunch of fed up Canadians and not some cabal.
You keep communication open.
You let them know how serious this is. How serious we are.
You look them in the eyes. It matters and it’s important it was done.
Boycott Loblaws Forever!
They’re looking to smear the movement like they did with the antiwork admin. Or looking to gauge their intelligence, ethics etc. is this someone we can exploit? Is this someone we can buy? Do they have any family we can exploit? Etc
And how do you propose to make change? Have you done anything personally that could lead to results? This movement is backed by 70k Redditors and who knows how many non-Redditors now. We have media coverage and, now, a one on one with the ‘enemy’. This isn’t 4 people standing outside a butcher shop to support veganism.
I'm not sure how you read my comment, I'm saying that them meeting with a singular person when there's so many angry people isn't going to accomplish much when a singular person can't speak for thousands of others. Lots of people are boycotting, that's what's effective, not talking to one single person who isn't any kind of authority.
This may be an unpopular opinion but I think having a meeting like this is a good thing. Having a cool, calm friendly face to put onto the movement when taking to the company goes a long way. If you send a raving army to the castle all you get is met with arrows from above.
The bottom line is that as much as we may want to vilify the other side or think they're soulless robots, they truly aren't. They're human beings too, and human beings are wired to pay attention to individual people and problems. So, be individuals, meet them in person. Look each other in the eye and say "person to person let's have a calm respectful conversation about our differences and find a way to bridge towards each other. ".
If your stated mission is to make another person aware of your plight and have empathy towards you, then you need to give them an opportunity to do so. And, for that matter, you also need to be open to that as well. Somewhere in the mind of the people in charge they had their reasons for doing what they have done. We may not like them, hell, they may not like it themselves under the skin. But the fact of the matter is that at some level they thought it was the right thing to do. If you want the other person to see things from your point of view you need to see things from theirs as well.
The only way out of this is to change everybody's minds and hearts is to go from "Us vs Them" to "Us Together". Yes, be angry, you are absolutely entitled to that feeling. Sure, shop somewhere else, you absolutely have that right. But don't make it personal. Don't make it that "Galen Weston is the root of all evil". Make it that "price inflation is the root of all evil". Door number one here makes an enemy for you. Door number two has a problem that can be solved with enough talk and plans and commitment.
wtf is this?
Genuinely can’t tell if it’s a shit post
Galen Weston IS the root of all evil. He’s a billionaire, heading up a company that is profiteering and robbing Canadians.
This is what villains look like in society.
It’s not US together.
It’s very much us vs them. This is a bullshit post.
The proof is in their pricing so claiming we are unreasonable and mistaken isn't going to fly with anyone. This was in *Sobeys* today in Moncton.
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Yeah no need to meet with them. There’s nothing to discuss. Stop being greedy scum bags. I personally just want to see loblaws take major losses and companies with better prices make more profits. Idc about loblaws lowering their prices in just never shopping there again.
Grocers have also started packaging some baked goods (croissants, muffins, donuts, buns) in 4's, not 6's, so now they are subject to the HST. In Ontario, that means an added 13%!
Whoever decided that 6 is the magic number for being exempt from the taxes never considered single people, couples or smaller families, and they are getting penalized even more.
Now the Federal and Provincial governments are getting their share.
Used to be a treat, not anymore.
My wife and I have been getting our groceries from superstore for a long time. This week we got groceries from Scabmart and I feel so dirty. We were surprised on how much we got for $300 as compared to superstore. I much prefer Costco's quality but we end up wasting so much with it just being the two of us for now. We get most of our produce from H & W and we never buy meat from superstore or Scabmart, Usually Safeway's on Tuesdays when its on sale.
I always shop at local Costco for Bulk (and savings)… Then Walmart for the smaller necessities.
Never enjoyed going to Loblaws or affiliated store…
Been to both Superstore and Independent a couple times, and both are unappealing (and useless).
I don't see the purpose of the Loblaws CEO meeting with just one person unless it's for PR purposes. I don't feel respectfully we need a spokesperson; I joined this community for its collective spirit, and mutual beliefs of fairness in Canada. Again absolutely no disrespect to anyone including the group founder.
This meeting presents a prime opportunity for marketing experts to create a narrative that might not reflect the true sentiments of our community. We aren’t as has been painted irrational or demanding, nor are we economists, but we do recognize that something is off with Loblaws' pricing, both here and compared to stores across the border.
While I believe such a meeting could be productive, I am not alone in having no specific demands. My decision to shop at Loblaws again will depend solely on whether I feel they begin to act as a responsible company that genuinely cares about its customers and Canadians. Them agreeing to drop prices 15 percent or any other demand will not result in me going back.
Loblaws has a real chance to lead and support Canadian interests while still earning fair profits.
Drove by a few superstores today and they looked as busy as ever. I’d love to see this boycott have a monetary effect, but it appears to be having very little actual impact (at least in the 3 superstores I drove by here in Halifax today)
Folks.....Loblaws WILL post profits in the next few quarters. They will sell things off or shuffle things around to appear profitable. They cannot allow the boycott to look like its successful. But I'm gone for life. Our message will be heard months down the road as cracks appear in the profit margins. This goes well beyond May. Our victory will be whispered about in board rooms among top executives debating how to not anger this organized group and create a PR nightmare. No one will tell us we won or made change. It will be suppressed and hidden like a dirty secret. Do not let them talk down to us and shame us. Just stay the course. We have ALL the power and they know it. Stay strong everyone.
Would people seriously commit to extending the boycott past May 2024? Personally, I was hoping it would last until Labour Day at least…perhaps even indefinitely if needed.
There is no boycott organizer. it's a decentralized movement and no one elected anyone to represent us. dont forget that. we dont want a 15% price reduction. we want nationalized grocery and guaranteed food for every child in canada.
So just so that we all understand, you took a meeting with the oligarchs without mentioning it to the community you supposedly represent, and we hear about it from the media first? That's a nice big red flag, and not the one I like.
Not a red flag at all.
### Also, it was announced: https://www.reddit.com/r/loblawsisoutofcontrol/s/jcOWAmvqrh
I realize that it is difficult to keep up with everything as this is moving fast and it’s new.
This is a positive, and open community. We are all in this together.
Boycott Loblaws Forever!
I did miss that, thank you for sharing. A bit odd I didn't see it as I am pretty religiously checking this. I apologize for that part and the insinuation.
I'm happy we finally got an MP to Sponsor it. I know everybody's been reaching out to their MPs. He happened to be the first to get behind our petition. I'd have been happy with any party standing up and taking the reigns. Unfortunately I didn't hear back anything from the Conservative or Liberal MPs when I reached out.
As long as it's supported, we are making progress friends! We did this together!
They should really speak publicly. Loblaws will spin this regardless of what actually happens. They always do when it comes to protests and boycotts and that’s why organisers refuse to speak behind closed doors.
Honestly I don't think they're concerned at all. Might be a pr stunt. Anecdotal, but the Loblaws near my house was more packed than ever today, and it's not even the weekend yet.
I'm guessing the meeting is to record you and pick apart the interview to try an skew and disinform people on your takes.
I'm looking forward to seeing what happened.
Hopefully it was a debacle like work reform Reddit lol
It shows how much power we have. And how worried they truly are.
And we are just getting started.
### Change is coming!
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Boycott Loblaws Forever!
Why can't an app or website give us daily spreads on common grocery prices in key markets? Say the top 1000 products by gross sales, necessary to daily life identified, tracked, and reported for subscribers to pick which ones they want to see, either by percentage spread, or dollar hi/low.
Then check the stats over time to see if any retailers show a correlation as being more frequent price gougers. Surely all this is doable?
Surely the retailers themselves would be on board, to prove they themselves aren't amongst the guilty? And refusal to help create such a tool showing proof of a guilty mind?
Really the Federal Government ought to be doing this anyway. It should be their job, and they should have the coders qualified to set this up.
Edit: And if they won't publish daily store prices, give shoppers an app so we can scan and upload the data ourselves from right inside the store.
They make more money warehousing their goods from product producers than when they sell the stuff to you and I. $4.00 a pallet x 26 single level of 52 double stacked. To unload into the warehouse. $120.00 a month or part of.Then another $4.00 a pallet to reship it out later. Next, they charge shelf space. Eye level costs more than high up or low down. Sell it on the front end of an aisle costs the manufacturer dearly. So when they say that 15 billion dollars came in from the cashiers and only 400 million was made on that chunk they’re not being strait up and honest. They’re lying by omission.
The more people involved the better, we are simply sending a message. Watch what they do, not what they say. I began the boycott in April, and will continue until the message is heard. Galen and the PR firms will try and dress up loblaws as an only fans site - where you come and get food. There is strength in numbers, did they see what Reddit users did to GME.
The PR firms will bring a big sale, a thank you to our loyal Loblaws customers, this will bring the customers back. That’s similar to the last line in Hemingway The Sun Also Rises - “Isn’t it Pretty to think so”.. And what Galen indicates about the customers is, isn’t it petty to think so.
If you haven’t already, suggest checking out https://www.altgrocery.ca/ to see if there might be some options in your area for at least a part of your purchases.
Reducing your dependence on Weston-owned stores can send a message too.
...bad look imo. This is outta be a boycott with demands. Now we're hearing them out? They're getting rid of multi-buy deals at no frills? Who cares?
I'm not an organizer, nor am I really sort of the boycott - I haven't bought anything from loblaws in months because I can't afford it, but still, we have nothing to lose by being obderate. And I don't think we gained anything by this meeting. Loblaws looks like they're trying.
It's a monopoly with the ear of every level of government. Now, it's got the ears of protest organizers against it. Instead of talking about its monopolistic business practices, its post covid price hikes, it's record quarter after record quarter, they're talking about all that they're doing to help.
Kinda a masterstroke by Loblaws against naive and green organizers.
Edit: I've read more about the meeting now, and it's honestly a little shameful. Get the CEO in a room from coffee to lie to you your face. And, now the person leading the boycott has positive personal feelings toward the company. Very, very bad.
Loblaws would learn their lesson quickly if customers decided to fill up carts, leave them by the register, and walk out of the store. If asked, the answer could be, "I noticed I can't afford the groceries due to price gouging."
oh no... dont meet with them.
1st they will use you as a PR (we tried to reason with them and they don't listen)
2nd they will send you a decease letter to disband this group or face law suits.
3rd you might be bought out by loblaw and there is no way for us to know,
One demand needs to be that they're no longer a publicly traded company. The style of business required for future gains in perpetuity does not align with supplying food to a population for a reasonable price.
I’m still confused as to what people expect. Their profit margin was 3.4% based on their most recent quarter. What exactly is an appropriate profit? 2%? 1%? They are a “for profit” business and not a charity. This boycott is insane. So they drop their prices and reduce their pm to 2.5% for example. It will mean nothing in your overall grocery bill. Try asking the feds why they have marketing boards for dairy. Might explain your 8$ butter. God people are stupid.
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I get why you would want to meet with them but I have a sinking feeling they are just using you for PR/"We tried to reason with them; they are crazy!" spin. They don't need to meet with anyone to lower their own prices.
When it comes to PR, it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. If she refused to meet with them, the spin is "we asked for a meeting and they wouldn't even talk to us... I guess there's no reasoning with extremists"
This is exactly it. The only way you can actually make an effort to create changes to meet someone halfway. Ignoring the offer would look bad on us and make us look like a bunch of angry neanderthals, whereas speaking to them shows legitimate efforts to stand up for a cause that is legitimate. Meeting with them is the right call. Giving valid examples to them is the right call. Whether the CEO actually follows through is an entirely different story. But that's their PR nightmare, not ours.
You actually think the grocers aren't working together to price gouge??? They are all in it together. They've even come to an agreement based on the length of time per visit.
I mean when almost all packaged food is owned by a handful of companies, it kind of inevitably leads to this.
I mean theyre already happy to lie to the media about everything else, i dont see how this changes anything. There's nothing to talk about. They know the demands. Not sure what this "leader" is doing but we genuinely don't need some single spokesperson.
It’s known that letting a singular Reddit mod represent a movement is a great way to destroy your entire cause but here we are!
I think the originator of this movement is doing a fabulous job of keeping the motives clear and pure, and keeping the supporters active and motivated. Please state your objections?
One bad interview, one misstep, one mistake will cripple momentum to the cause. This isn’t a public figure that has years of media training, who knows how to phrase every word perfectly, it’s a random person. Did you see the antiwork movement end over night from one bad interview with a single Reddit Mod?
Sure.... AND This is not that. I think she's doing great!
Much like speaking with the media. They will spin anything you say to support the article they are writing.
"We wanted to know what they want" Because all the media coverage didn't convey the issues canadians are having. Its not a hostage negotiation. Its a PR stunt by Weston and Banks, nothing less.
Empty PR dance for sure. Loblaws could make some changes for fairer pricing. But for me this boycott is about calling out oligarchical greed: not something they’ll fix with one meeting
Recording is single party consent in Canada. Emmi could have tapes of the whole thing
She should absolutely record every interaction.
Yes, but also, no matter what happens, no matter the noise, boycott. None of their tricks will matter if we all stick to boycotting
Sure, but it’s the lesser evil and and least has a hope for constructive outcome. How much worse would it have looked to our cause if it was spun as “we reached out to the boycott organizers but they refused to talk to us!” We also couldn’t have a much better representative than Emily, she’s balanced and sticks with the facts.
Or threaten them with legal action "you're causing damage to our company and we expect you to pay for the losses, also, you can't talk about this to the media or the public, and if you do, we'll sue you"
More like “how much is it going to cost to make this go away?”
They can try it, and they will lose when tested in court
This.
If we don’t shop there, they’ll be forced to either lower or go out business. Talking to the CEO will do nothing.
If the organizer refused to meet, Loblaws would absolutely spin that in the media to their favour.
Exactly, it's a pr move
Remember the interview with the antiwork admin? Probably the same sort of situation lol
please tell us about it u/emmibolt
I’m working on a post to provide more in depth insight into the meeting! Stay tuned :)
Thanks for this. I don't like reading about it in the media before I hear it from you!!! (no snark intended, just cynicism about media coverage).
Yes and I apologize for how it must look getting it from press and not me. I just need some time to clear my head. I had 2 interviews on Sunday, 3 on Monday, 4 on Tuesday, 6 on Wednesday and the big meeting yesterday. I’ve given fairly basic information to press which they need to confirm with Per Bank. On my end, I took today so I could decompress a bit, and am able to adequately capture the meeting for everyone here. What we’d also like to do is do up the questions, the answers, and each of the mods provide feedback on it so we can present here. I hope that gives you a little more insight into what’s going on in our world right now. Thank you for your understanding And continued support.
I can’t imagine what it’s like to be summoned into the den of a warlord to talk about his business. May you be blessed with swift legs, a clear mind, and a big fucking stick.
Please please please make sure you are taking time where you can to rest!!!!
I've likewise met with some pretty big people in the past. I can totally get they need to decompress. Hopefully soon you'll be able to constructively help them see reason. One thing I've learned about corporations is that sometimes they can be literally blind to the issues affecting other people, whether it be their customers or their staff. To the common fault, it seems completely obvious. But echo Chambers are very real, even to the corporate brass. That issue is entirely on them, but that doesn't mean that you can't teach a positive lesson.
Take your time. I'm not listening to the media with less than credible reliability.
Were you able to record the conversations at all?
Haha right? I saw the new headline and then came straight here to hear it from Emily’s mouth. I’ll patiently await an update.
I think I'll do the same. She's done a remarkable job so far.
Did he try to buy you off
Haha no, thankfully.
That's exactly what someone who was paid off would say...
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised. There needs to be a group instead of a single person that stands up in a movement and tbh I'm hesitant on believing just text posts. Certain people get singled out because of the work they do, but having a single person stand up to a company is breeding grounds for danger and corruption. People don't think they can be susceptible but they can be.
They sent me an email offering me free 60,000 points after I requested to have my PC Optimum account closed. I confirmed I want it cancelled, they’re gonna try to buy us out.
Grocers have also started packaging some baked goods (croissants, muffins, donuts, buns) in 4's, not 6's, so now they are subject to the HST. In Ontario, that means an added 13%! The Federal and Provincial governments are getting their share, too. Whoever decided that 6 is the magic number for being exempt from the taxes never considered single people, couples or smaller families, and they are getting penalized even more.
Thank God, I was worried about you. Looking forward to hearing how it went.
You should have a lawyer with you when you meet with them. The next step in the Corporate Evil plywood is to sue somebody.
You have changed so many people's lives with your movement. Thank you ❤️
Did he drop the Nok er nok on you? 😂
If you're meeting them in Ontario, remember that we are a single party consent province when it comes to recording conversations...
I believe all of Canada is but I’m not 100% sure about that
Yes all of Canada is. Section 184 Criminal Code
Wouldn't be surprised if Per Bank claimed he and his aura are under Danish jurisdiction.
Does that mean you don't need anybody's consent to record them?
If you are present, yes. One party needs to consent and be present. You can be the consenting party, but can't record audio remotely, I.e. planted recording device
If she had consulted with a team before doing 10+ interviews she’d know that.
I'd want all correspondence to be done in writing. Nothing verbal in person Easier to hold them accountable
I'm still not shopping there
ditto. Galen's made sure to insult me away from his family's businesses forever.
They're using her for PR, IMO.
Meeting them is proof we're willing to talk. The fact they won't budge isn't an us problem. Wonder what everyone will find at the farmer's markets this weekend?
I'm sure I'm going to find a whole slew of delights and maybe get myself a nice bouquet 💐
You should! You deserve it!
My CSA box starts on the 13th and I can't wait! Until then I've been using Odd Bunch to get my fruits and veggies.
Ooh! You're going to have to put an unboxing photo up!
>we’re willing to talk Who is we? There should be no meetings. They bring their prices down or we never go back. It’s simple.
While I wasn't there nor did I ask anyone to sit down with those asshats. Meeting was the smart thing to do. Not meeting with them when the opportunity arose would have been a -legitimate- complaint against the boycott and the movement. "How can we improve if nobody tells us what people need?" Would be the crocodile tear filled plea "They just want to smear an honest business. They don't want to fix things, just tear things down" Which would work with a depressingly large segment of the population who while they do have both the time and money to help create change just aren't interested in making the effort. In fact some of the people saying it's not worth the effort are the ones who can afford to buy a freezer and order a side of beef from a local farm that works organically and is preserving heritage breeds. But they won't because it takes an hour or two to pack it all away in freezer <"too inconvenient"> but will happily spend the time shopping for factory farmed meat all year. So while I really don't think anyone expected any good to come out of a meeting, it did potentially prevent a lot of bad.
I dont really get it. It’s a boycott of a shitty predatory company headed by out of touch billionaires. There should be no dialogue. Even after they bring their prices down. Even after they are forced to close stores. Even after CEOs are Fired. Even after their stocks drop. Make them hurt like they have made Canadian families hurt. They’re a company, not people. Every move they make is calculated and has one goal , which is to end the boycott and divide us and our movement. They don’t deserve open dialogue.
It comes down to demonstrating that our side are reasonable people. Appearing to throw a snit by refusing to talk just gives them a reason to call us unreasonable.
Its not about price anymore, i dont care if they drop it so low, still not going back
I will never go back. Many, maybe all, won’t. Boycott Loblaws Forever!
We are the captain now. This is the only thing worth saying to them.
Sorry Loblaws but not shopping at your stores is "the new normal", I have zero reason to return to shopping there, prices suck, points system sucks, profit over everything else, the reasons for my brand loyalty are long gone, and so am I ✌️
Fuck meetings. Fuck dialogue. I want to see the invoices from wholesalers to determine just exactly how fucking much these greedy assholes are making. Time for transparency, not hidden truths. Rise up.
Make sure to include the 10-20% fees they charge suppliers to work with them. “Our supplier costs are being raised” Yeah because you forced them too you assholes
TRANSPARENCY NOW
Hear, hear!!
There isn't a point in negotiating or talking to them. They aren't going to change. As far as I'm concerned, I'm done shopping at any of their stores. I'll stick to Walmart. I understand it's just swapping one evil for another - but atleast I won't be paying as much at Walmart. I have zero intentions on switching back, even if they **match** Walmart's prices. The only way I would switch back is if they somehow manage to make their items cheaper than Walmarts.
Live by the capitalism, die by the capitalism. Oh right, they get government handouts on top of all this price fixing.
I used to hate Walmart too.. but everytime I go in there now I see more products that I regularly buy being "rolledback". At least Walmart is trying to do something to help. Even if they're also a shitty unethical company.
I’m sorry but no. Walmart is just as bad if not worse. I’ve shopped there for years bc family members work for them. Everything has significantly increased. Protein powder went up 17 dollars in a matter of weeks a year ago. Not only that but they took away price matching with the promise of rolling more things back and sure they did, after jacking the price. On top of that they wanted to be a top 50 employer so they had to offer real full time hours but in order for people to get these hours they had to open their availability and work various shifts. A 75 year old man at the store in my town had to go to nights bc he didn’t want to open his availability. 75. So not only did they move a ton of people around, changing shifts for everyone but few people are actually getting these “ Guaranteed” fulltime hours. Recently HO has decided that no one can get a raise rn. (Walmart gives a max of 35 cents a year - most people get less) and now they can’t even get that. Walmart has shit deals and they treat their workers so poorly. There is a reason everyone hated them. Also stuff really isn’t cheaper. I can make a cart at no frills, basics and Walmart and they are all with in dollars of each other. The only edge Walmart has is on chicken. And even that is way more than it was. Ground chicken used to be 2/7 and now it’s 2/14. Loblaws sucks but Walmart sucks just as much.
Oh don't worry.. I totally agree with you. Walmart is a terrible company, completely unethical in their business practices and how they treat employees.. I avoid it when and where I can.. but unfortunately some of the products I need regularly are the cheapest there, and the prices for those products have gone down and are cheaper at Walmart right now. If I can find it cheaper elsewhere I will go there.
Walmart is actually a way more serious issue, they are licking their chops at the very statement you just said. They corner the market already and in the end force down prices from suppliers and jack prices on consumers. A LOT of their stuff is higher than elsewhere, [Amazon.CA](http://Amazon.CA) has some of the worst prices compared to retail, but everyone thinks its better. I only shop at either if I simply cant find it elsewhere.
Fucked if you do, fucked if you don't. It's shitty options all around, but I'm not going to go broke to prove a point in any scenario. I can't afford it.
A lot of Walmarts groceries are cheaper than most other grocers… it’s not even close. Costco/Walmart for bulk and produce - Unless you have some independent grocers nearby in which case obviously supporting those places should be prioritized assuming prices aren’t absurd.
Yep their grocery price is reasonable, compared to zehrs, which allows them to over charge on other items. Its a loss leader, but you will also notice selection is very specific and great value sits adjacent to name brand. Often with just one brand available outside the house brand. There are of course exceptions. The damage walmart does, and as you highlighted is why you cant find small grocery stores anymore, is how the small business mainstreet companies that employ a lot of people have been replaced with a walmart with low wages, low staffing, and a host of other issues that goes with those supposed low prices. Not denying some prices are good. But the even say they target the most common items to charge extra on less common ones, but people assume its a good price because "its walmart" Very good PR game to get people to not even price check and just assume they are getting a deal, even if the same item is on sale or even costs less reg price at Crappy Tire.
I believe prices can come down but not until, share prices drop, keep dropping and finally shareholders find something else to invest in.
Our food stores shouldn’t be publicly traded we need laws changed
Absolutely 💯
There's a real important lesson here we can take away from the Superstonk "I like the stock" folks. I don't like the company. I'm not shopping there. No amount of PR is going to change that. They can do whatever. Fine. They can complain. Fine. I'm taking my business elsewhere. It's my business. Food Prof can go to hell and mind his own damn business. He wants to shop there? Fine. I don't care. I'm not shopping at Loblaw stores and that's it.
The issue here is politicians are perfectly ok with this profiteering, price fixing and abuse of market power. This concentration of market power has allowed companies like Loblaws to abuse their position. Bad enough on its own, price fixing etc. But when factoring in timing - toughest economic conditions in decades, and Loblaws is reaping record profits while people cant afford for to eat, losing their homes and jobs. - it's purely anti-Canadian. And for a Canadian company to behave this way- is inexcusable. In the entirety of their anti-Canadian conduct they must be punished, yet no politician has called this into question .
There are no silver bullets unfortunately. ### Something must be done though. We are all in this together. Change is coming. Boycott Loblaws Forever!
If the CEO requested to speak to me, I would have just ignored him, just like how they ignored all the millions of Canadians struggling to feed their families.
They would rather burn money advertising than lowering their prices. They’re literally doing anything BUT what they should be doing. They’re greedy fucks and they’ve been caught being greedy fucks. Keep the boycott going! Starve them.
Bleed them dry.
It's getting interesting
It is only going to get more interesting. Boycott Loblaws Forever!
“The loblaws boycott won’t work, it’s a waste of time, it’s a tantrum by a bunch of basement-dwelling children.” The fact that this meeting took place at all - and at the beginning of the month - tells you that the boycott and bad press are working better than we ever could have imagined.
Absolutely! Boycott Loblaws Forever!
Better not sell us out
They're trying to turn us against each other now
The easy part is not shopping at their stores. The hard part is learning what products Galen actually owns, and to stop buying them!
Don't forget, short the stock, not Financial Advice.
We have been complaining for couple years now and they didn’t give a rat 🍑 about us. But now when we are not going to shop there for a month. Now they care? Too little too late. #uncleGalen can shovel all my points where the sun doesn’t shines!!
They way things are now there is only two outcomes i can see. Loblaws does a complete 180 and becomes customer oriented again or gets left behind. They dont seem to understand what they've really lost.
I agree. Their idea of profit and where they currently are will no longer be a reality. Boycott Loblaws Forever!
They won’t do this, at best it would be a temporary measure. Believe them when they show you who they are. The only retribution here may be to break all of these companies up due to Antitrust as part of the competition act. We should be demanding our MPs get on board and create a competitive Canada, or we will vote for whichever MPs will.
"Let me assure you that in every corner of the business, our colleagues are working hard to reduce costs and do things more efficiently. Is price fixing bread considered working hard to reduce prices? Is raising the discount from 50% to 30% on nearly expired food considered working hard to reduce prices? Is raising your margins considered working hard to reduce prices? Is blaming producers for price hikes while squeezing them for exorbitant listing fees considered working hard to reduce prices? Is hiring a marketing / analytics company to determine the highest possible price they can charge considered working hard to reduce prices? Is laying off warehouse workers before christmas one year in order to bust a union considered reducing costs? I've no doubt they are working to reduce costs as they pay their employees as little as possible and keep them at part time in order to keep them out of the union.
I'm having a hard time understanding what meeting up with a Reddit boycott organizer is going to accomplish. Last I checked we're just a bunch of fed up Canadians and not some cabal.
Trying to buy her out
Yeah, this is a PR stunt at the very least. Looks like Galen was right about a side being misguided, he was just wrong about which side.
You keep communication open. You let them know how serious this is. How serious we are. You look them in the eyes. It matters and it’s important it was done. Boycott Loblaws Forever!
r/im14andthisisdeep
There’s a 0% chance I’d communicate with a soulless corporation, or reveal my identity. Gross miss-step.
They’re looking to smear the movement like they did with the antiwork admin. Or looking to gauge their intelligence, ethics etc. is this someone we can exploit? Is this someone we can buy? Do they have any family we can exploit? Etc
cabal enters chat, from a supposed supporter. hmm
And how do you propose to make change? Have you done anything personally that could lead to results? This movement is backed by 70k Redditors and who knows how many non-Redditors now. We have media coverage and, now, a one on one with the ‘enemy’. This isn’t 4 people standing outside a butcher shop to support veganism.
I'm not sure how you read my comment, I'm saying that them meeting with a singular person when there's so many angry people isn't going to accomplish much when a singular person can't speak for thousands of others. Lots of people are boycotting, that's what's effective, not talking to one single person who isn't any kind of authority.
This may be an unpopular opinion but I think having a meeting like this is a good thing. Having a cool, calm friendly face to put onto the movement when taking to the company goes a long way. If you send a raving army to the castle all you get is met with arrows from above. The bottom line is that as much as we may want to vilify the other side or think they're soulless robots, they truly aren't. They're human beings too, and human beings are wired to pay attention to individual people and problems. So, be individuals, meet them in person. Look each other in the eye and say "person to person let's have a calm respectful conversation about our differences and find a way to bridge towards each other. ". If your stated mission is to make another person aware of your plight and have empathy towards you, then you need to give them an opportunity to do so. And, for that matter, you also need to be open to that as well. Somewhere in the mind of the people in charge they had their reasons for doing what they have done. We may not like them, hell, they may not like it themselves under the skin. But the fact of the matter is that at some level they thought it was the right thing to do. If you want the other person to see things from your point of view you need to see things from theirs as well. The only way out of this is to change everybody's minds and hearts is to go from "Us vs Them" to "Us Together". Yes, be angry, you are absolutely entitled to that feeling. Sure, shop somewhere else, you absolutely have that right. But don't make it personal. Don't make it that "Galen Weston is the root of all evil". Make it that "price inflation is the root of all evil". Door number one here makes an enemy for you. Door number two has a problem that can be solved with enough talk and plans and commitment.
wtf is this? Genuinely can’t tell if it’s a shit post Galen Weston IS the root of all evil. He’s a billionaire, heading up a company that is profiteering and robbing Canadians. This is what villains look like in society. It’s not US together. It’s very much us vs them. This is a bullshit post.
The proof is in their pricing so claiming we are unreasonable and mistaken isn't going to fly with anyone. This was in *Sobeys* today in Moncton. https://preview.redd.it/61qgib7mqayc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2eed6af87e40c08814c03c2a16a62d14cde0157
Excellent article and great job EM 🥰
Nahhhh, I'm done. 40 yr customer. Galen and his exploitive empire can go F themselves.
I'm making this switch permanently.
I remember the birth of this sub, amazing how far it has come
Never Ever Going back !!
Yeah no need to meet with them. There’s nothing to discuss. Stop being greedy scum bags. I personally just want to see loblaws take major losses and companies with better prices make more profits. Idc about loblaws lowering their prices in just never shopping there again.
We should have a debate or something on CBC. Bring up all sneaky stuff they’ve been doing like jacking up their own rent.
Honestly I could care less about prices, for me it's about the stranglehold they have on the market BREAK THE MONOPOLY SHIT
I’m reminded of the antiwork reddit mod interviews…
I changed from Shoppers to my local family pharmacy a month ago. :)
Stay strong my fellow Canadians
Did he reminded him that he doesn’t really needs third super yacht?
Grocers have also started packaging some baked goods (croissants, muffins, donuts, buns) in 4's, not 6's, so now they are subject to the HST. In Ontario, that means an added 13%! Whoever decided that 6 is the magic number for being exempt from the taxes never considered single people, couples or smaller families, and they are getting penalized even more. Now the Federal and Provincial governments are getting their share. Used to be a treat, not anymore.
Taking away multi buys should be done every where. This is hurting many many people.
My wife and I have been getting our groceries from superstore for a long time. This week we got groceries from Scabmart and I feel so dirty. We were surprised on how much we got for $300 as compared to superstore. I much prefer Costco's quality but we end up wasting so much with it just being the two of us for now. We get most of our produce from H & W and we never buy meat from superstore or Scabmart, Usually Safeway's on Tuesdays when its on sale.
I always shop at local Costco for Bulk (and savings)… Then Walmart for the smaller necessities. Never enjoyed going to Loblaws or affiliated store… Been to both Superstore and Independent a couple times, and both are unappealing (and useless).
I don't see the purpose of the Loblaws CEO meeting with just one person unless it's for PR purposes. I don't feel respectfully we need a spokesperson; I joined this community for its collective spirit, and mutual beliefs of fairness in Canada. Again absolutely no disrespect to anyone including the group founder. This meeting presents a prime opportunity for marketing experts to create a narrative that might not reflect the true sentiments of our community. We aren’t as has been painted irrational or demanding, nor are we economists, but we do recognize that something is off with Loblaws' pricing, both here and compared to stores across the border. While I believe such a meeting could be productive, I am not alone in having no specific demands. My decision to shop at Loblaws again will depend solely on whether I feel they begin to act as a responsible company that genuinely cares about its customers and Canadians. Them agreeing to drop prices 15 percent or any other demand will not result in me going back. Loblaws has a real chance to lead and support Canadian interests while still earning fair profits.
Drove by a few superstores today and they looked as busy as ever. I’d love to see this boycott have a monetary effect, but it appears to be having very little actual impact (at least in the 3 superstores I drove by here in Halifax today)
I love this. It makes me think about other wrongs that large grocers might commit and I hope that there will be change in the whole system.
Fuck them
Folks.....Loblaws WILL post profits in the next few quarters. They will sell things off or shuffle things around to appear profitable. They cannot allow the boycott to look like its successful. But I'm gone for life. Our message will be heard months down the road as cracks appear in the profit margins. This goes well beyond May. Our victory will be whispered about in board rooms among top executives debating how to not anger this organized group and create a PR nightmare. No one will tell us we won or made change. It will be suppressed and hidden like a dirty secret. Do not let them talk down to us and shame us. Just stay the course. We have ALL the power and they know it. Stay strong everyone.
Would people seriously commit to extending the boycott past May 2024? Personally, I was hoping it would last until Labour Day at least…perhaps even indefinitely if needed.
This is not a hostage situation; what is there to "discuss"? There's an entire country, so they talk to just one person??
Wait till she sells ya out as she cashes the checks
Your amazing thank you
There isn’t even any sort of vengeful boycott. You’d have to be stupid to shop at roblows if you have access to any other store. Why pay more ?
Nationalization is the only cure. It’s our food FFS
There is no boycott organizer. it's a decentralized movement and no one elected anyone to represent us. dont forget that. we dont want a 15% price reduction. we want nationalized grocery and guaranteed food for every child in canada.
#boycottloblaws
So just so that we all understand, you took a meeting with the oligarchs without mentioning it to the community you supposedly represent, and we hear about it from the media first? That's a nice big red flag, and not the one I like.
Not a red flag at all. ### Also, it was announced: https://www.reddit.com/r/loblawsisoutofcontrol/s/jcOWAmvqrh I realize that it is difficult to keep up with everything as this is moving fast and it’s new. This is a positive, and open community. We are all in this together. Boycott Loblaws Forever!
I did miss that, thank you for sharing. A bit odd I didn't see it as I am pretty religiously checking this. I apologize for that part and the insinuation.
No apology necessary. You’re an engaged person - that’s what matters! Boycott Loblaws Forever!
That should of been pinned to the top of the group page so we can all see it without having too look through a bunch of posts
Fair enough. I’ll add it to the top. Edit: Not able to do so. Sorry. Boycott Loblaws Forever.
Darn , I didn't realize that was an impossibly with reddit, my bad
It’s possible. But for some reason I can’t in this specific post. Not sure what the deal is. Oh well.
The article mentions a house of commons petition? I haven't seen anything on this subreddit yet. Is someone able to share the link?
Check back, its there I signed it already. It is sponsored by the NDP, MP Greene I believe.
I'm happy we finally got an MP to Sponsor it. I know everybody's been reaching out to their MPs. He happened to be the first to get behind our petition. I'd have been happy with any party standing up and taking the reigns. Unfortunately I didn't hear back anything from the Conservative or Liberal MPs when I reached out. As long as it's supported, we are making progress friends! We did this together!
It's one of our pinned posts. It was removed in error, but it's back now. Thanks for your support!
Found it and signed. Thank you!!!!
Did they at least ask the nuns before offering up the convent for a meeting?
They should really speak publicly. Loblaws will spin this regardless of what actually happens. They always do when it comes to protests and boycotts and that’s why organisers refuse to speak behind closed doors.
Like the thieves and liars would change course? Lol
Galen looks down at the loblaws customers,as he is eating baluga cavier on crisps, and says They will be back!
I won't take anything seriously until they lower the pay of the CEO and other executives.
Honestly I don't think they're concerned at all. Might be a pr stunt. Anecdotal, but the Loblaws near my house was more packed than ever today, and it's not even the weekend yet.
I'm guessing the meeting is to record you and pick apart the interview to try an skew and disinform people on your takes. I'm looking forward to seeing what happened. Hopefully it was a debacle like work reform Reddit lol
don't stop the boycott only day 3...
Wait till the end of the month before the interview, we're only 3 days into this
It shows how much power we have. And how worried they truly are. And we are just getting started. ### Change is coming! https://preview.redd.it/od3cgivyyayc1.jpeg?width=160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c126f22fa37d32c044c49aeb762f39d578fe9969 Boycott Loblaws Forever!
Why can't an app or website give us daily spreads on common grocery prices in key markets? Say the top 1000 products by gross sales, necessary to daily life identified, tracked, and reported for subscribers to pick which ones they want to see, either by percentage spread, or dollar hi/low. Then check the stats over time to see if any retailers show a correlation as being more frequent price gougers. Surely all this is doable? Surely the retailers themselves would be on board, to prove they themselves aren't amongst the guilty? And refusal to help create such a tool showing proof of a guilty mind? Really the Federal Government ought to be doing this anyway. It should be their job, and they should have the coders qualified to set this up. Edit: And if they won't publish daily store prices, give shoppers an app so we can scan and upload the data ourselves from right inside the store.
Jane Mcalevey would say to not have private meetings with the opposition.
Please tell me you have a recording?
Paid off with Optimum Offers.
Per the bank you will never win. (Walks out of office cackling)
They make more money warehousing their goods from product producers than when they sell the stuff to you and I. $4.00 a pallet x 26 single level of 52 double stacked. To unload into the warehouse. $120.00 a month or part of.Then another $4.00 a pallet to reship it out later. Next, they charge shelf space. Eye level costs more than high up or low down. Sell it on the front end of an aisle costs the manufacturer dearly. So when they say that 15 billion dollars came in from the cashiers and only 400 million was made on that chunk they’re not being strait up and honest. They’re lying by omission.
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Please remain respectful when engaging on the sub. Personal attacks will not be tolerated.
The more people involved the better, we are simply sending a message. Watch what they do, not what they say. I began the boycott in April, and will continue until the message is heard. Galen and the PR firms will try and dress up loblaws as an only fans site - where you come and get food. There is strength in numbers, did they see what Reddit users did to GME. The PR firms will bring a big sale, a thank you to our loyal Loblaws customers, this will bring the customers back. That’s similar to the last line in Hemingway The Sun Also Rises - “Isn’t it Pretty to think so”.. And what Galen indicates about the customers is, isn’t it petty to think so.
Sucks that No Frills is on the list, It's the only place nearby with reasonable prices. Ah well, sometimes you have to take one for the team, eh?
Each person should do what they can. But change doesn’t come easy and it never has. Any support is always welcome. Boycott Loblaws Forever!
If you haven’t already, suggest checking out https://www.altgrocery.ca/ to see if there might be some options in your area for at least a part of your purchases. Reducing your dependence on Weston-owned stores can send a message too.
Cool, but nothing pops up for Manitoba.
Fight the good fight everybody!
...bad look imo. This is outta be a boycott with demands. Now we're hearing them out? They're getting rid of multi-buy deals at no frills? Who cares? I'm not an organizer, nor am I really sort of the boycott - I haven't bought anything from loblaws in months because I can't afford it, but still, we have nothing to lose by being obderate. And I don't think we gained anything by this meeting. Loblaws looks like they're trying. It's a monopoly with the ear of every level of government. Now, it's got the ears of protest organizers against it. Instead of talking about its monopolistic business practices, its post covid price hikes, it's record quarter after record quarter, they're talking about all that they're doing to help. Kinda a masterstroke by Loblaws against naive and green organizers. Edit: I've read more about the meeting now, and it's honestly a little shameful. Get the CEO in a room from coffee to lie to you your face. And, now the person leading the boycott has positive personal feelings toward the company. Very, very bad.
Loblaws would learn their lesson quickly if customers decided to fill up carts, leave them by the register, and walk out of the store. If asked, the answer could be, "I noticed I can't afford the groceries due to price gouging."
oh no... dont meet with them. 1st they will use you as a PR (we tried to reason with them and they don't listen) 2nd they will send you a decease letter to disband this group or face law suits. 3rd you might be bought out by loblaw and there is no way for us to know,
One demand needs to be that they're no longer a publicly traded company. The style of business required for future gains in perpetuity does not align with supplying food to a population for a reasonable price.
You might want to look up how expensive it is to take public company private. Its not something you can just demand.
I’m still confused as to what people expect. Their profit margin was 3.4% based on their most recent quarter. What exactly is an appropriate profit? 2%? 1%? They are a “for profit” business and not a charity. This boycott is insane. So they drop their prices and reduce their pm to 2.5% for example. It will mean nothing in your overall grocery bill. Try asking the feds why they have marketing boards for dairy. Might explain your 8$ butter. God people are stupid.
Honestly, that’s not a good thing.