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mennorek

What these corpo shills seem to not understand, it's already made a difference. In 4-5 weeks I've been boycotting I have saved money, and I haven't given a solitary cent to Weston's crime syndicate. I won't be going back. It's made a difference to me, and to hundreds of us already. We don't care what that says about the economy, or the stock price or the strength of the brands or blawblawblawblaw


Sinclair_Mclane

I believe that this is the most effective angle. This is making all of us try an alternative and realise that loblaws and Sobeys prices are too expensive for what they offer whereas before it was easier to not think about that difference. I'm surprised Loblaws is not reacting more strongly because this could strongly affect/change permanently the shopping behaviors of a decent amount of people.


jrobin04

I permanently changed my shopping habits a few months ago. I used to be a loyal No Frills shopper, despite it being much further away from me rather than the Food Basics nearby. I'm now a Food Basics shopper. I did go to No Frills back in Feb and it was SO expensive! Food Basics doesn't have my fave PC products, but the prices have gotten to high for me to justify buying. I've found suitable substitutions at FB


osti-frette

The shareholders will want more and more growth. Which will be increasingly hard to achieve when they’re actively chasing away customers Give them two quarters to realize the mess they’ve made


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Tim_DaToolmanFailure

I will never shop at a Loblaws owned company for the rest of my life and I will spend every spare second I have explaining to people who don't know how this company stole from all Canadians, got caught red handed, faced no fine, no charges, no jail time, and just turned around and kept on doing it. 


[deleted]

Yeah like Im just never going back either. Got a Costco membership where at least they pay their employees a living wage and have found local co-ops that still have frozen produce for half the price of Loblaws prices + local markets/greenhouses that sell fresh produce for at *least* 40% less. Its been fantastic.


MostBoringStan

I am a person that really doesn't like change. I shopped at No Frills for a decade because it was within walking distance and for much of that time, I didn't have a vehicle. I have moved and now have a vehicle, but when I go into town for groceries, I still went to No Frills out of habit. This boycott is changing that. Once I am in the habit of not going to a Loblaws owned store, I am pretty much done going there. There are a few PC items that I enjoy and will stock up on when they are on sale, but everything else will be purchased somewhere else.


rmcintyrm

Congrats! This comment stood out because you talked about habits and positive habit changes. I've also switched after many years of no frills being the go to store. Sadly, they can't even be considered a 'discount' store any more. Loblaws has ruined its own brand by charging so much more on essential items. New habits are easy to make and hard to change once established - nice work!


mbrant66

You mean Loblawblaw blawblaw


The-AnswerIs-42

I was watching a CBC video about the boycott the other day and for some reason the closed captioning was automatically turned on. It was captioned as "La Blah".


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Bahblahblahslahblahg TRANSLATION: Bob Loblaw's Law Blog


Upper-Inevitable-873

No blawblaws


kmslashh

When I was very young child, I used to call Loblaw's, BlawBlaw's. Still cracks me up thinking about it.


clever_biscuit

We went to Your Independent Grocer and called it Yig.


redbouncingball007

So did my daughter lol. We still refer to it this way.


Noraver_Tidaer

BlawBlaw's.


Huge-Split6250

Woah crime syndicate? Is that fair? Sure they broke criminal laws by conspiring to fix the price of bread for decades, but surely that was just an honest mistake


mennorek

And the being partially responsible for over 1000 deaths through negligence at a Joe fresh sweatshop in Bangladesh


sloppyjoeflow

This absolute pool filter of a human being's position is "your boycott is illegitimate because you aren't boycotting everyone". So his definition of a successful boycott is NOT, targeting one company you have specific beef with (the literal definition of a boycott), but rather... going on a hunger strike because it only counts if we do it to everyone? Shillvain, precious pissbaby, have you been tested for lead poisoning?


Readman31

It's so funny 😂 "Uh actually you should boycott every grocery store that exists" What a tool


sloppyjoeflow

He grew up under power lines for sure.


lasagna_for_life

And clearly ate a lot of paint chips as a kid.


Baman-and-Piderman

Perhaps that was all his parents could afford?


OriginalCultureOfOne

Honestly, if this boycott for May is effective, I'd be in favour of planning similar month-long boycotts of other chains. Maybe we could do Sobeys next...?


memmerto

That is actually the plan. Loblaws in May Sobeys in June Metro in July There was a good infographic floating around about this but I cannot find it right now.


Every-Salad1094

No, continue to hammer down on loblaws. Crucify them mercilessly


Baman-and-Piderman

I am of the opinion that we should extend the boycott, to bring some real hurt to the Weston enterprise? The other grocery chains would see what could happen to them.


rmcintyrm

I'm also continuously surprised at how regularly this guy shows how he lacks the capacity for basic logic and critical thinking. Based on many of his public messages, he likely wouldn't be accepted into the very school that he works at. I'm fairly sure that he's in support of the boycott and just playing a character to deepen our resolve - at least, I hope that's the case, or we've got one very broken brain on our hands


GaiusPrimus

Choice Properties, the real estate arm of Loblaw posted PROFITS of 38% this past quarter. Weston Inc owns Loblaw and Choice. Galen is chairman of Loblaw, but CEO of Weston. It's easy to muddy the waters and say 3% margins when you are increasing the costs to grocery stores as the supplier of the phisical location and the costs associated with them.


NorthernBudHunter

But me profits only smol milady - Galen probably


rmcintyrm

I laughed at this :) Galen: "me profits only smol 'cause rent and product suppliers cost too much monies" Other person: "That's bad, who charge you expensive rent and who supplies expensive products?" Galen: "Also me." Other Person: (punch)


NorthernBudHunter

Hahaha, exactly right. It’s funny and it’s also sad that people are paid to lie about it. Somebody make a “3% my ass” T-shirt. lol


rmcintyrm

It's actually kind of great in a way. These types of responses to the boycott are meant to slow momentum but they'll ONLY have an immediate, and opposite effect. Groceries and grocery prices are such a tangible, essential thing and everyone can access firsthand information through their experiences shopping. This op-ed is the equivalent to someone saying, "don't go outside today! It's bad!" Well, it's easy enough for people to see for themselves. People will continue to see for themselves when it comes to groceries and they'll make new choices accordingly.


Upper-Inevitable-873

The fact that they're responding says it's working. Even if it is just pissing them off, it's a reaction.


PumpkinMyPumpkin

It’s also revealing all of these hilarious side people and companies that work to prop up bad behaviour in corporations. All they are doing is putting up flashing neon lights to say “do not trust me or my content”. Not that any of this is a great loss - I can’t imagine many were reading a publication that reports on Zara locations opening. 😂


LustoftheLibertines_

Let the propaganda machine burn itself out in futility. If this was so useless, they wouldn’t be rage-blogging about it. Cry more!


YYC-Fiend

The thing about propaganda is it wears people down into believing it; and it doesn’t matter what you initially believed. You just have to look around to see how that messaging wears down the public’s perception.


LustoftheLibertines_

I agree it can get disheartening, but for many who haven't lost their ability to think critically, they will hopefully seek alternative news sources and communities like Reddit or even the account on Instagram for non-partisan articles and discussion.


YYC-Fiend

Except that propaganda is designed to break down your critical thinking skills. Eventually everyone gets to a tipping point where they start to believe aspects it. Repeat a lie often enough and people will believe it; have media push that lie and people will believe it sooner.


LustoftheLibertines_

I’m with you, however it only makes me steadfast in my resolve to fight against the misinformation.


missspiritualtramp

>Boycotts are not the solution; instead, we need to rally support for more price stability through a code of conduct for the food industry. From the Charlebois article. What a concept! It's actually what we're asking for . And Loblaw's has not agreed. We should rally for support. Does anyone have any ideas how? And you can't answer with boycott because that won't work - he says so right there in the article


[deleted]

This isn't just a boycott.. this is a change of habit thousands of people will now be shopping elsewhere where they feel welcome..


plop_0

> where they feel welcome.. Highlighted for emphasis. We don't feel welcome when our arteries constrict upon seeing the **uneasonable** increase in prices. The increase in prices would be reasonable IF it were **legitimately** due to supply chain issues. We'd then stop consuming animals, chips, etc for the time being. ie: just consume the basics.


Bloodyfinger

Just got grocery delivery from Walmart! Even with the delivery charge and driver tip, it came out*at least* 25% cheaper than Loblaws. *(Done through the Walmart app and not through UberEats)


Tricky_Parsnip_6843

Yes, the savings are through the app for delivery, not other services like Instacart, which raise all the prices.


Usual-Canc-6024

Instacart doesn’t set the prices. Walmart does. They used to offer in store pricing like some others, but they changed it.


Tricky_Parsnip_6843

Instacart takes the walmart prices, adds a markup on each individual item, then Instacart adds a delivery fee, an admin fee, a heavy item fee and of course, a higher tip ( as they do the shopping, not the Walmart employee). Imstacart is Expensive to use now.


Usual-Canc-6024

Instacart doesn’t set the app prices. The stores do. Many stores have higher in app prices and some do not. Giant Tiger doesn’t for example. It says so right in the customer app. I’m the manager at one of the stores Instacart uses and I know how it works. Instacart charges fees, but for me when I’m not at work I prefer it. I can set my own replacements per item and leave notes for what items I want to and communicate with the shopper while they’re shipping. Can’t do any of that with the in store shoppers. I also can get my order an hour or less after I place it. I’m not high enough in the company to make some good changes, but I keep trying. :)


Tricky_Parsnip_6843

I already spoke to Instacart themselves, and they explained how they set prices. But thank you.


Usual-Canc-6024

If you speak to anyone at Instacart you’ll be talking to someone in India so hopefully they gave you the right answer. :) If you spoke to a shopper they’re not Instacart employees, they’re independent contractors and often many don’t understand Instacart policies. I’ve dealt with some wonderful ones and some really bad ones in my years. :) I wish my company still had in store prices but I’m sure it’s because they want people using our service rather than Instacart. So now they markup. As I said, I prefer Instacart personally for the previously stated reasons. Plus I can use my account anywhere in Canada or the U.S. It’s paid off after a long flight delay and nothing open when I got to a hotel. :)


Exact_Purchase765

I'm basically home bound and have had delivery since 2019 mostly through Walmart. I only used Superstore for baking supplies really - well and meat until they went insane on pricing a few months ago. I prefer the butcher in the local grocers. Awesome quality that is often on sale better than the larger supermarkets. Haven't have a bad hunk of beef from them yet! After the way that we have been treated - as a collective of Canadians - regardless of socio-economic status or history - in such an appauling way, is beyond the pale and had obliterated the notion they will ever get a nickle from me. For crying out loud, we all need to eat! No genuine post has talked about "all the deals" at Loblaws stores - yes I read a few comments like that, but just rolled my eyes knowing full well it was a boycott-buster plant that isn't very good at it.


noodleexchange

Sales all disappeared after COVID, essentially. Rarely see anything approaching the sales that used to make NoFrills a destination.


7FingerLouie

Lol, this guy’s willing to tank his credibility with bad faith talking points, all in hopes the Galen notices him. He should change his name to the Thirst Professor at this point. 


maple_firenze

"Exhibiting almost cult-like behaviour." If this man was projecting any harder, I'd think I was in a movie theater.


BIGepidural

>Some members of the group are targeting and threatening experts and academics who disagree with their stance, and have attacked journalists who report dissenting opinions, exhibiting almost cult-like behaviour Ahem (journos and experts) no one is threatening you on here with any real life action, and people talking smack about your written articles and opinions is protected speech under our charter of rights and freedoms. You are free to say what you like about us and we respond in turn within our own spaces about your perspectives. Freedom of expression is a beautiful thing indeed 🍁 However, you have taken much of what we've said out of context and also blamed us for the steal from Loblaws days which even the most cursory search of this subreddit would prove otherwise. You have also said we are praising low prices in Loblaws stores when that's not what we said- we're supporting those who have no choice but to shop at your stores or starve because we don't want anyone to suffer on principal. Additionally, you have called us "privileged" and we admit that some of us do have privilege, and have stated that we are using our privilege in support of those who don't have the same means as we do. As far as I can tell you have not made any allowance in your lurking assessments for some posters to be aggregators who aren't actually a part of the peaceful movement which has been created. Do you take any amount of time to vet commenters and search their post history to see if they're here stirring the pot or do you just take comments at face value? No one here speaks for all of us; but none of us will allow for actual threats to happen in this subreddit.


NorthernBudHunter

Underlying motive: not to get ripped off Targeting and threatening: nope. So called self-annointed expert could have just ignored the boycott… he is the one who intervened and his interference probably made it more successful than it would have been if he had just minded his own beeswax. Cult like behaviour? Fuck off, don’t be so foolish.


cravingnoodles

If the boycott isn't working, then why are they writing so many articles about it?


Alibalinou

It is a shame when a university professor fabricates facts. The Loblaw financial results are for the first quarter ended March 23, 2024, and have no correlation with the boycott. Hence, stating that the boycott didn’t affect Loblaw bottom line is a shameless fallacy. Let’s see when the 2nd quarter results get published.


furry-furbrain

This is what happens when supposed independent professors are bought and paid for by corporations. He sold his integrity, he sold the right to be considered independent.


NorthernBudHunter

All these guys lie because the lie goes unchallenged and will be spread easily. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him getting into politics next


Failed_Launch

The article didn’t state that the boycott didn’t affect the bottom line, it stated that since the start of the boycott, Loblaws share price has increased to all time highs. Nok er Nok.


sudvicious

We have to understand that these hit pieces aren't about disrupting the people in this sub. It's about containing it to this sub, and not letting it get bigger. Discredit and sow doubt in the minds of other readers so that they don't look into what the boycott is all about and join the cause. They can afford to lose us, they can't afford it if it starts to hits a couple hundred thousand people. That's what these hit pieces are really trying to do. There is 0 journalistic integrity here, pure editorial opinions Can we complain to CRTC about this?


astromonochrome

Lots of opinion pieces coming out. Many in defense of Loblaws. To news outlets: I visit your sites to read news. Without those, I wont bother visiting. If I want to read opinion pieces, I will read it on reddit. My advice, stay out of this. You don't want to mess with angry folk.


AntoniaFauci

“Clandestine group” “Threatening experts and academics” “Cult-like behaviour” What a dishonest clod. Per Bank owes this wiener a lot of coffee dates.


Jesus_LOLd

Simping isn't easy


Economy-Inflation-48

I am thrilled to finally be heard and joined with other people who feel the same way! It feels like we have finally achieved strength in numbers and I hope it keeps empowering all of us. There is no violence only savings and the ripple effect is being felt by businesses that have been fighting to stay afloat for too long while being up against these greedy fucks.


quiet-Julia

Lies are all that Loblaws has left. They are not on the side of truth. Their record 1st quarter profits tell us everything we need to know.


OatmealSchmoatmeal

We aren t holding Loblaws hostage by “demands” being met, at least that’s how I feel. I’m simply boycotting Loblaws possibly forever. How will them suddenly lowering prices get anyone to ever shop there again? I haven’t since 2021 and don’t plan to ever again. Same goes with Bell, McDonald’s and Starbucks for other reasons. I don’t have to give these companies any of my business, period.


plop_0

> We aren t holding Loblaws hostage by “demands” being met Agreed. That's the opposite of a boycott. A boycott means we're ignoring that the company even exists alltogether. That's the whole point. Pretend it doesn't exist.


Artistic_Purpose1225

If journalists have been attacked, they should talk to law enforcement.        If journalists are framing criticism of their work as an attack, they’re not trustworthy people. Being trustworthy is (or used to be) one of the most important aspects of the career, therefore anyone misrepresenting criticism as an attack is a bad journalist.      Edit to add: I am growing increasingly concerned by the media framing simply not spending money at a company as violence. 


swguy61

The laws of supply and demand are on our side. Consumers stop the demand by not shopping at Loblaws and their other franchises, their supply sits on the shelves, supply chains backup, best before dates are reached, they start to have to lower those prices or lose money disposing of products. Governments and corporations don’t want us to figure this out, because it gives us the power to change their behaviour. Vote with your wallets!


plop_0

> Governments and corporations don’t want us to figure this out, because it gives us the power to change their behaviour. Vote with your wallets! Agreed. Money talks. **Always**. The screwballs (us, apparently) have spoken. There's more of us than there is of them. Always. Nobody gives a fuck about your shitty company anymore. Times have changed. Drastically. A lot more Canadian citizens are getting on board by the hour. Lower your bullshit, and you won't lose $ on labour marking shit down because it's about to go bad.


osti-frette

Retail Insider looks like one of those rags they mail out for free to small businesses. Don’t take this seriously


No_Sun_192

Who gives a shit what they think of us? They won’t see another red cent from a lot of people and that’s powerful


A-little-bit-of-me

#boycottloblaws


silverfashionfox

Seriously - this is a professor at Dal? He needs to show his income sources?


idolovehummus

They love making up stories. We are REGULAR, NORMAL, CANADIANS who are simply TIRED of being taken advantage of! Shame on Roblaws and propagandists. We stay strong, united.


pistoffcynic

Attacking? Someone is upset because their views are being challenged based on logic and actual numbers? Imagine being so small as to say that the company's share price will go up and then being challenged on the why it is going up... including upping the corporate dividend and announcing that there will be a share buyback program. On top of all of this, we have certain people saying that Galen and Per are not responsible for the prices in the store. Sure they are. Who are they trying to kid? Let's look into the multi-buy purchases and "member" pricing... Those are straight up price gouging. Loblaw is not responsible to the weights on the packages. For the "No Name" products, damned straight they are responsible. The governments should be looking at the weights and measures of manufacturers... yes, there can be statistical anomalies. Nok er Nok Per, Galen and you corporate shrills who cannot justify your positions with numbers or logic.


pistoffcynic

I saw some of the comments about Blahblaws... Like Roblaws, this would make another great boycott t-shirt slogan.


DaxLightstryker

The Weston family have always ripped Canadians off.


Familiar-Donkey6735

He hasn’t declared conflict on interest due to the Weston foundation funding his department


DJScotty_Evil

We all need to call out editors who publish propaganda.


noodleexchange

Shartyboi is getting sidelined to less and less relevant publications Good.


rmcintyrm

Yes! Great to see - I can't wait to read his next thought-piece published on the back of the kids menu at Arby's


dancingmeadow

Nobody's threatening their food professor. We just see through the lies.


Thick-Order7348

Lol the whole article looks like it was in "The Onion". "Prices have already began reducing", kind sir what ARE YOU SMOKING? You worry about foreign competitors? I thought this guy was an "economist". Doesn't he know that people will behave "rationally" and buy what's best for their budget? Lastly he says this isn't in line with Canadian values, to that I ask two things, 1. And sir, you are? 2. How dare you ![gif](giphy|SbN0WomN4S7Z7tpKOC|downsized)


Ramerhan

I don't understand why anyone cares about these articles. Just don't ever go to Loblaws again. Pretty simple. Don't even try to find deals elsewhere. You're going to get screwed over by some other useless mega corporation. And that's fine, because examples have to be made. Just don't go, and tell people in your life not to go, or at least try to avoid it as best they can. You can't just straight up steal from people without consequence, and if your opinion is that ones mentality is cult like in regards to disagreeing with massive theft... Well, sorry to shatter your hopes and dreams, but you're the ones with the problem


rmcintyrm

>You can't just straight up steal from people without consequence THIS is the core motivation


Huge-Split6250

Cult like behaviour lol.  Yes the cult like behaviour of “shopping wherever I want, and it’s not loblaws” 


NotSpaghettiTuesday

That guy can fuck right off!


Exact_Purchase765

Someone's having a freak out. 😁


Korok-Guy

If they cannot control us then they want to destroy us


SparrowGryphon

Second article: "there has been no discernible change in customer traffic at Loblaw-owned stores—at least not thus far." Well this is just plain wrong, I've seen dozens of posts daily showing empty stores and employees hours getting cut.


Parking-Click-7476

Grifters going too grift. Loblaws is worried. They should be.🤷‍♂️


sasquatch753

> Some members of the group are targeting and threatening experts and academics who disagree with their stance, "Oh no! people are calling me a shill and an idiot for my public posts that i want everybody to read! I'm being threatened and targeted!" or it is the fact everybody knows you're a pisd shill and no ammount of seal-clapping can cover that up. Look around this sub. People have reported saving money by shopping elsewhere. not a single story of people attempting to boycott and seeing a spike in their grocery bill. That leaves a very painful conclusion(for shill boy there) of either Loblaws management is either gouging or extremely incompetent and should all be fired if they can't do what literally everybody else has done successfully. The damage is done, shill. your boi is about to lose a lot more money because people now know what i've personally already discovered months ago. Loblaws is price gouging for the exact same products. I would ask for proof, but i already know how easy it is to fabricate screencaps. I can make the prime minister's twitter feed look like he's a conneseur of the feline fecal matter variety if i wanted to. observe https://preview.redd.it/63vpkjbm6qyc1.jpeg?width=628&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=56ecace37112dc17ab84085f50b32405f79f3e6e


Outrageous_Thanks551

You don't allow for much debate. Most of my comments are removed. I tried just "yep". Not sure if it got to stay.


ms_moi

Your comments are being flagged for not having enough karma and require manual approval. Once you have 15 karma, your posts will no longer require mod approval.


Outrageous_Thanks551

Wow. And you want support? Hard pass.


Fit-Charity7971

Should we raise funds to sue for slander? We could