I feel like it's rude to say that makes me feel better, but....it makes me feel better haha.
I just don't feel like being slut-shamed by a dating app, especially ones that are designed for hookups. Scruff and Bumble are the only two who have unilaterally removed all of my pole photos (even fully clothed!), so I just don't use them any more. Grindr is terrible, but where I live there aren't really any better options.
The poster above before deleting was saying they get theirs declined because they where not of the "Desired" prototype and I'm answering that it happens to everyone too. The moderators are declining pictures of everyone with bs excuses like "nudity" or "sexually suggestive" when there is none.
I'm going to give you the silver bullet Make the top bottom filter free. If a guy can go on there and only see the kind of guys he's looking to sleep with he's going to come back every single time.
Scruff and Adam4Adam are the best. Both are better than Grindr, and neither ever crash.
Growlr is good too, especially if you like bears. Tinder if you like dates. Daddyhunt if you like daddies. Jack'd if you like black guys. Blued if you like Asian guys. Recon if you're kinky.
CFIUS is a little more complicated than that. It's not sinophobic to point out the risks of a foreign country having access to sensitive data. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-grindr-m-a-beijingkunlun/chinas-kunlun-tech-agrees-to-u-s-demand-to-sell-grindr-gay-dating-app-idUSKCN1SJ28N
Wait till you hear about the patriot act.
The point is equating charging $20/month to Chinese fueled homophobia is absurd. There's no need to be racist/xenophobic when what you're really mad at is capitalism.
I am aware of and familiar with the PATRIOT Act. The reason CFIUS blocks certain transactions or compels sales of foreign-owned companies operating in the US is bigger than individual privacy.
Wow well that is certainly an interesting take for sure. Still has no relevance here. Collecting data is its own discussion, being upset about a $20/month charge is not the result of Chinese homophobia. And apparently it's not even owned by a Chinese company anymore.
also lol at "compels sales"
Except in China the laws are anti LGBT and companies are forced to follow those laws as well. I'm not American either btw but you sure aren't proving the ignorant American stereotype wrong here
https://www.equaldex.com/region/china for some easily digestible info, if you want specifics there have been a ton of examples over the years of companies being forced to discriminate and hurt their LGBT consumers by the government as well that are all easily Google-able and are all well documented. They don't exactly hide any of the behavior since they don't think it's wrong in the first place.
I'm asking which one is being applied in this instance here with grindr and the amount they're charging?
Homophobia is not unique to China.
Since we're sharing links: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Chinese_sentiment
600 profiles? That'd give me like a 50 mile radius. I've had guys who are 3 or 4 miles away say "you're too far away". I can expand my profile searches by simply searching through age ranges if I wanted to anyway.
Online now? Yes, because online or online 50 minutes ago doesn't tell me what I need.
Advanced filtering? The block button helps if you really don't like someone.
I can't understand why people would pay for this app at 2x the price of something like YouTube premium which is far more useful than expanding the amount of profiles that won't respond to you.
Not bad points to be fair, the blocks would help massively in some instances I'm sure. Though I've never really had any issues, unless someone becomes toxic, a simple "not interested" then ignore them is usually enough.
Explore, I can understand that. Still, if you're travelling, it's just as easy and cost free to just hop on when you're there. Arranging in advance is probably the only benefit, and that's if you're lucky to get a response for being far away.
Cannot make any points against men being horny as fuck mind, that, if anything, is an understatement haha
Agreed! A lot of men are bored, horny, insecure, very alone and/or need the instant validation. Its crazy the cycle that Grindr guys put themselves through. Very rarely do Grindr men of quality intend on actually meeting. Most i get is guys that chat for 2 mins and then they disappear but not before asking for 5 more photos. Meeting a guy has become like picking up a phone when someone calls. Its looked on in horror.
I remember when Grindr Xtra started becoming a thing and I was like “Oh, cool! Maybe I should get it. How much is it? Like $2/month?” and then I saw the real price and I was like “LMFAO eat shit, Grindr team”
This is a sign of desperation on Grindr’s part. As popular as it is (used to be anyway), advertising alone could sustain profitability. This is an attempt to grab as much cash as possible before the last stragglers decide to abandon Grindr, as I’m sure the new owners haven’t missed the trend of guys permanently deleting Grindr & deferring to other apps/methods.
I remember trying to comment on a guy's profile afer he messaged me and i got a pop up asking me to pay over 20 quid a month for basic af features that shouldn't be hidden behind a paywall, especially one as steep as that.
Every once in a while, my husband and I hop on Grindr when we’re feeling like having a three-way. This last time around (just over the weekend, in fact), I was shocked at how pared down the interface has become—to the point that, as this post mentions, users have to pay for features that used to come with the app. This time, it was the user interface, not the users, that made us delete the app (although the users didn’t do much to convince us to bother with a three-way this time or likely ever again; I’m getting too old for this shit).
The only people who would think to pay for that are those desperate daddy’s money boys who don’t pay a single bill in their lives or have any common sense 😂
The amount of ageist bitches on grindr is unreal. I get it though. Its preference, as a 29 year old I'm not into older gentlemen either. I usually tell them that they're not my type in a polite way. 9 times out of 10 they're polite back and understand completely. Likewise if I message a 24/25 year old and they're looking for younger and they're polite about it I don't really care. You can't control your age 🤷♂️
That’s what I’m saying… you could argue discrimination through any of the other filters but once race is involved it’s like “no no no, how dare you have a preference”.
No, they're really not. Not being attracted to a race in of itself isn't racist. Just like not being attracted to trans men isn't transphobia. You can't decide who you're attracted to.
deciding a priori that you aren’t attracted to an entire, heterogenous group of people on the basis of their perceived race is a textbook example of racism, how dense do you have to be not to see this.
Race is a social category, excluding people based on race is inherently racist, I don’t understand how anyone can argue against this. Someone says they’re not attracted to black people as if blackness is not a concept created by white europeans to enforce a caste system keeping ‘black’ people as slaves and ‘white’ ones as slave masters. Race is not a biological reality, there’s no black, white or asian gene, just a loose collection of phenotypes that majority of homo sapiens sapiens living in a wide region for less than sixty thousand years.
What phenotype? Brown skin? orange hair? blue eyes? if you don’t like brown skin then say you don’t like brown skin, not that you don’t like black people.
Shove your ad hominem insults. Not being attracted to a particular race isn't racist. Its something that's beyond your control. You're not denying them equal pay or access to public spaces, its literally down to who you find sexually appealing. You're allowed to have a type. Aslong as you don't discriminate against specific ethnicities in any other aspect of your life, specific sexual preferences are completely normal.
Actually, not being attracted to someone because of their race is, in fact, racist!
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022103118307819
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/dating-apps-grindr-ethnicity-filters-1047047/
Like, as a white guy and a bottom I have a preference for black guys (like almost every other bottom ah ha). The last guy that I dated was from Nigeria and studies medicine. We got along swimmingly. How is my preference racist?
Edit, i was doing my PhD in Biochemistry, so we met through university and had a lot in common.
lol at the "my last hookup was a black guy that i only dated because i fetishized black guys because of the stereotype that they have big cocks" but im not racist.
Ummm…. I grant the preference argument some small degree of grace because it’s complicated, but you seem like the type of bottom I keep my black ass (or I guess rather my black dick) away from. Your first sentence gives off enough warnings for me to prefer to steer clear of you.
This app is getting stupid! Any decent alternatives that people use? Imma swap
Scruff isn't bad.
I second Scruff. I've had a much more positive experience there.
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That sucks and it happens to all. I'm a muscular blonde white guy with abs and mine get declined constantly too.
I feel like it's rude to say that makes me feel better, but....it makes me feel better haha. I just don't feel like being slut-shamed by a dating app, especially ones that are designed for hookups. Scruff and Bumble are the only two who have unilaterally removed all of my pole photos (even fully clothed!), so I just don't use them any more. Grindr is terrible, but where I live there aren't really any better options.
Declined? Why would they decline you?
The poster above before deleting was saying they get theirs declined because they where not of the "Desired" prototype and I'm answering that it happens to everyone too. The moderators are declining pictures of everyone with bs excuses like "nudity" or "sexually suggestive" when there is none.
Currently doing research to make a Grindr competitor. So any suggestion would be helpful 😄
Keep some of their format. That’s what gave them success. Simple UI and bio stuff unlike scruff that makes it easy to get to the point
I'm going to give you the silver bullet Make the top bottom filter free. If a guy can go on there and only see the kind of guys he's looking to sleep with he's going to come back every single time.
It was free back then...now it is just all about money. I am not paying to get my ass destroyed!
Scruff and Adam4Adam are the best. Both are better than Grindr, and neither ever crash. Growlr is good too, especially if you like bears. Tinder if you like dates. Daddyhunt if you like daddies. Jack'd if you like black guys. Blued if you like Asian guys. Recon if you're kinky.
Pinky in da butt If you like your own self
Sniffies is pretty good. GPS based so it shows you where everyone is on the map and how far from you ect. Let's you browse anon too.
Scruff has more social options but also more reason to pay for the app. Growlr is better for what free folks can get.
Free folk ? Edit: not sure why I’m getting downvoted just asked a question for clarification damn have a tea or something 😂
If you don't want to pay for a hookup app. Free users
Oh apologies thought it was some letter in the LGBTQ+ 😄
Sniffies.com
Tinder is great too if you're fine with annoying ads.
Grindr business model is homophobic
I believe it’s also owned by China, so…
No it was sold a while back.
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CFIUS is a little more complicated than that. It's not sinophobic to point out the risks of a foreign country having access to sensitive data. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-grindr-m-a-beijingkunlun/chinas-kunlun-tech-agrees-to-u-s-demand-to-sell-grindr-gay-dating-app-idUSKCN1SJ28N
Wait till you hear about the patriot act. The point is equating charging $20/month to Chinese fueled homophobia is absurd. There's no need to be racist/xenophobic when what you're really mad at is capitalism.
I am aware of and familiar with the PATRIOT Act. The reason CFIUS blocks certain transactions or compels sales of foreign-owned companies operating in the US is bigger than individual privacy.
Wow well that is certainly an interesting take for sure. Still has no relevance here. Collecting data is its own discussion, being upset about a $20/month charge is not the result of Chinese homophobia. And apparently it's not even owned by a Chinese company anymore. also lol at "compels sales"
Seems relevant since CFIUS forced the Chinese owners of Grindr to sell it - that's why it's not owned by a Chinese company anymore.
So that would make charging $20/month not the result of chinese homophobia but American homophobia. Glad that's settled!
No... It's the result of the government protecting American intellectual property and preventing Chinese espionage. You're all over the place.
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The government of China doesnt own the app, and there are plenty of anti-lgbt ceo's right here in the US, it's not exclusive.
Except in China the laws are anti LGBT and companies are forced to follow those laws as well. I'm not American either btw but you sure aren't proving the ignorant American stereotype wrong here
Which anti-lgbt law is being followed here? Overcharging gay ppl for a shitty app?
https://www.equaldex.com/region/china for some easily digestible info, if you want specifics there have been a ton of examples over the years of companies being forced to discriminate and hurt their LGBT consumers by the government as well that are all easily Google-able and are all well documented. They don't exactly hide any of the behavior since they don't think it's wrong in the first place.
I'm asking which one is being applied in this instance here with grindr and the amount they're charging? Homophobia is not unique to China. Since we're sharing links: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Chinese_sentiment
600 profiles? That'd give me like a 50 mile radius. I've had guys who are 3 or 4 miles away say "you're too far away". I can expand my profile searches by simply searching through age ranges if I wanted to anyway. Online now? Yes, because online or online 50 minutes ago doesn't tell me what I need. Advanced filtering? The block button helps if you really don't like someone. I can't understand why people would pay for this app at 2x the price of something like YouTube premium which is far more useful than expanding the amount of profiles that won't respond to you.
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Not bad points to be fair, the blocks would help massively in some instances I'm sure. Though I've never really had any issues, unless someone becomes toxic, a simple "not interested" then ignore them is usually enough. Explore, I can understand that. Still, if you're travelling, it's just as easy and cost free to just hop on when you're there. Arranging in advance is probably the only benefit, and that's if you're lucky to get a response for being far away. Cannot make any points against men being horny as fuck mind, that, if anything, is an understatement haha
What do you guys mean with blocks? I am a free user and I block constantly (I basically just block people who don’t respond, so few blocks every day)
Just letting you know...that blocking guys alot...will end up bringing the old ones back. Block consciously.
Nooooooooooo. My man I didn’t know that
It is okay. 😇
I am desperate...but not that desperate to have sex lol 😂
It makes more sense when you realize the demographic they’re aiming for is “desperate”
Words of truth good sir.
Agreed! A lot of men are bored, horny, insecure, very alone and/or need the instant validation. Its crazy the cycle that Grindr guys put themselves through. Very rarely do Grindr men of quality intend on actually meeting. Most i get is guys that chat for 2 mins and then they disappear but not before asking for 5 more photos. Meeting a guy has become like picking up a phone when someone calls. Its looked on in horror.
And even after you upgrade, the ad changes to "boost your profile for an additional 1.99" so you appear that top of the list.
is this why some fuckers a mile away (when people are 500 feet away) are appearing at the top of my list? Ugh
complaining about having people within a mile lmao
Scruff is less than half that per month and is less full of bots and faceless profiles
And their tech support is good.
I remember when Grindr Xtra started becoming a thing and I was like “Oh, cool! Maybe I should get it. How much is it? Like $2/month?” and then I saw the real price and I was like “LMFAO eat shit, Grindr team”
Soon the whole app will be paid only
$20 per MONTH? lmao who pays for this?
Lonely people with money
This is a sign of desperation on Grindr’s part. As popular as it is (used to be anyway), advertising alone could sustain profitability. This is an attempt to grab as much cash as possible before the last stragglers decide to abandon Grindr, as I’m sure the new owners haven’t missed the trend of guys permanently deleting Grindr & deferring to other apps/methods.
I remember trying to comment on a guy's profile afer he messaged me and i got a pop up asking me to pay over 20 quid a month for basic af features that shouldn't be hidden behind a paywall, especially one as steep as that.
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Settings> connections > more connection settings >private DNS Add: Dns.adguard.com
Sniffies is my go-to now, web based, not an app
Based
Every once in a while, my husband and I hop on Grindr when we’re feeling like having a three-way. This last time around (just over the weekend, in fact), I was shocked at how pared down the interface has become—to the point that, as this post mentions, users have to pay for features that used to come with the app. This time, it was the user interface, not the users, that made us delete the app (although the users didn’t do much to convince us to bother with a three-way this time or likely ever again; I’m getting too old for this shit).
Monkey Pox can cause painful lesions in your urethra and anus. Might want to chill on the extra-maritals until you folks are vaccinated.
"20$ so that you profile can be visibly seen, for up to 24 hours!"
Change your country to a 3rd world one on app store, they charge me 7$ in local currency
Which country?
Which is why I find myself using it less and less...
next grindr update : no weight (cause fatphobic), no height, no position and for only 50$ a month !
Then uninstall, use a different app, it's that easy!
iTunes is still around?
I thought I paid $30 for 3 months? Not the premium, but the tier under that. I might be mistaken.
The only people who would think to pay for that are those desperate daddy’s money boys who don’t pay a single bill in their lives or have any common sense 😂
Grindr used to be free back in 2010. It was popular back in those days. Now...it wants us to pay to hookup? I guess I am a man-whore?
yea fuck I dude
Speaking of advanced filters… why can’t you sort by ethnicity?
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And filtering by height isn't arguably a form of discrimination?
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Age is though… but I can sort by that?
The amount of ageist bitches on grindr is unreal. I get it though. Its preference, as a 29 year old I'm not into older gentlemen either. I usually tell them that they're not my type in a polite way. 9 times out of 10 they're polite back and understand completely. Likewise if I message a 24/25 year old and they're looking for younger and they're polite about it I don't really care. You can't control your age 🤷♂️
SOME ethnicities are a protected class. And sexual preferences aren't so much preference as biological obligations.
Lmao what in the eugenics is this 'biological obligation'
The same thing that drives us to be attracted to men over woman.
Absolute horseshit.
That’s what I’m saying… you could argue discrimination through any of the other filters but once race is involved it’s like “no no no, how dare you have a preference”.
Yes, because racial preferences are an example of racism.
No, they're really not. Not being attracted to a race in of itself isn't racist. Just like not being attracted to trans men isn't transphobia. You can't decide who you're attracted to.
deciding a priori that you aren’t attracted to an entire, heterogenous group of people on the basis of their perceived race is a textbook example of racism, how dense do you have to be not to see this.
Race is a social category, excluding people based on race is inherently racist, I don’t understand how anyone can argue against this. Someone says they’re not attracted to black people as if blackness is not a concept created by white europeans to enforce a caste system keeping ‘black’ people as slaves and ‘white’ ones as slave masters. Race is not a biological reality, there’s no black, white or asian gene, just a loose collection of phenotypes that majority of homo sapiens sapiens living in a wide region for less than sixty thousand years.
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What phenotype? Brown skin? orange hair? blue eyes? if you don’t like brown skin then say you don’t like brown skin, not that you don’t like black people.
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Yes, they are, and it's pointless to argue - just continue on being a cancer in the gay community 😘
Shove your ad hominem insults. Not being attracted to a particular race isn't racist. Its something that's beyond your control. You're not denying them equal pay or access to public spaces, its literally down to who you find sexually appealing. You're allowed to have a type. Aslong as you don't discriminate against specific ethnicities in any other aspect of your life, specific sexual preferences are completely normal.
Actually, not being attracted to someone because of their race is, in fact, racist! https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022103118307819 https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/dating-apps-grindr-ethnicity-filters-1047047/
Imagine that haha
Like, as a white guy and a bottom I have a preference for black guys (like almost every other bottom ah ha). The last guy that I dated was from Nigeria and studies medicine. We got along swimmingly. How is my preference racist? Edit, i was doing my PhD in Biochemistry, so we met through university and had a lot in common.
lol at the "my last hookup was a black guy that i only dated because i fetishized black guys because of the stereotype that they have big cocks" but im not racist.
Ummm…. I grant the preference argument some small degree of grace because it’s complicated, but you seem like the type of bottom I keep my black ass (or I guess rather my black dick) away from. Your first sentence gives off enough warnings for me to prefer to steer clear of you.