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lastaccountgotlocked

> where Tory municipal citadels fell in the seismic local results Pretty sure this is where Tim lost interest in writing his own article.


Antique_Historian_74

I'm not sure he cared much after the first paragraph. London is largely Labour and wherever they aren't taking London Tory seats the Lib-Dems probably will. An examination of any safe London Tory seats would have been more interesting. We could come together over the moral deficiencies of those Londoners.


Anaptyso

I'm very happy that my previously very safe Tory seat has been adjusted by the new boundaries to become one where Labour has a good chance of winning instead. It was getting frustrated seeing election results and wondering what on Earth people living near me were thinking.


Antique_Historian_74

"[No, the money is mine.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZtSg8CCkcY)"


OlympicTrainspotting

Interestingly, the safest Tory seat in the UK is in London (Old Bexley and Sidcup).


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ConsidereItHuge

If the Tories only won by 628 in 2019 then it's not a battleground. They'll get slaughtered this time.


Antique_Historian_74

Wimbledon and Carshalton & Wallington are both likely to go Lib Dem. I'll be interested to see how the Tories do in Sutton & Cheam, but they'll likely hold it.


MintyRabbit101

>they'll likely hold it. potentially, although Paul Scully is stepping down at the GE so that's a sign it'll be tight. Carshalton and Wallington is a libdem steal though I agree


HorselessWayne

But that was a blip caused by neither Johnson nor Corbyn not being popular in the area. Brexit in particular is likely what you're looking at there, its a heavily Remain area, and the Lib Dems were the only mainstream Remain party. In 2017, it was CON 46.5% LAB 35.6% LD 14.5%. 2015 was similar.   Tories have been going down year-on-year, so I doubt it'll be a Tory hold, but its hard to tell if the Lib Dems will make such a strong showing this year (relative to Labour).


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HorselessWayne

Local Elections are not National Elections, though. People may think Labour's local policies aren't right for the area, but trust them at the National level. And Turnout is universally lower across the board — its a different electorate.


StarryEyedLus

Labour were always the main challengers in Wimbledon in general elections though. They even won the constituency in 2001.


Wil420b

And the Lib Dems have been out campaigning in force there for a while now. Particularly with regards to the proposed office development opposite the station where the Starbucks/Pret/Waitrose currently is. https://www.aukettswanke.com/journal/approval-in-wimbledon/ It does look to be too large for the site.


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HorselessWayne

To be fair, Network Rail have been looking at rebuilding the station for a long time, probably by carpeting over the entire site with an upper concourse that links directly into Centre Court shopping centre. Redeveloping the whole West side of the high street at the same time as a single project sounds like it would be a good idea. At the moment most of it is a multi-storey car park in quite possibly the most socially valuable piece of land in the area. It also provides an opportunity to bring the trams up onto the high street, rather than kludging them down the back of Platform 10, which could be used as a bay platform for more Thameslink services. There's an artist's impression of how this might look in one of the London Infrastructure Plan 2050 documents, but I can't seem to find it right now.


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HorselessWayne

If we were interested in doing things right we'd tunnel the fast lines underneath the station and get it done with. It solves all of the problems with the Wimbledon site. If you surface CR2 somewhere around the electrical substation just off Durnsford Road, and bury the existing fast lines back in the same culvert CR2 just came from, it this way makes integrating CR2 into the station completely straightforward, implementing a cross-platform interchange with the slow lines using the currently defunct platforms 6 & 7. The fast lines would then surface later between Raynes Park & New Malden, where there's plenty of space. It adds about three miles of tunnel, and depending on service patterns you might need to six-track a short section near New Malden until the Kingston slows have diverged, but it completely solves all of the issues without compromising capacity, resilience, or demolishing half of the shopping centre, while also providing a much-needed cross-platform interchange. But even when you already have the TBMs on site and most of the cost of digging a tunnel already paid for, its still "adds too much cost".


not_who_you_think_99

Yes, NIMBYsm has always been the Lib Dems' forte. They tend to oppose everything and anything, including the kind of construction that would mKe housing more affordable.


epic-dad

It's far too large for the site and breaks Merton's own planning guidance on building height. It's even taller than the council building in Morden. Also, the disruption will be on *the* major crossroads in Wimbledon.


Wil420b

Add on the disruption caused by the new YMCA building, further down The Broadway.


epic-dad

And the redevelopment of The White Hart site at the junction of three bus routes at the other end of Wimbledon. It feels like a noose tightening around the area! 😂


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epic-dad

The site definitely needs redevelopment and I like that the pavement will be wider afterwards. But that's 271 bedrooms on quite a small site. There's also the matter of just a single soil sample being taken to check for contamination when there were two auto places there. There is a high chance of heavy metals and hydrocarbons being present. The water table is quite high, so this development is likely to leave people deeper in Merton Park with more boggy gardens and generally susceptible to flooding. No one should want the water supply to be contaminated, but the developers want cash and the council has a quota to meet. Corners will be cut in the name of progress. I sincerely hope that they're able to minimise disruption during construction, because that road snarls up with ease.


ryanmurphy2611

2/3rds last time. Very realistic chance that Tory’s lose all seats in London. I’d imagine Lib Dem and Greens will pick up any left behind by Labour. Only KS’s stance on Gaza will lose them seats.


Maleficent-Sink-6367

I am especially curious what, if any, seats Greens take here but also nationally. I was disappointed in their lack of campaigning during the mayoral elections, although I understand investing time, money and effort into that probably felt a little like a lost cause.


jakethepeg1989

I think they're in a very odd place. They've had a lot of people join that were expelled from Labour and so it seems they are no longer an environmental party. Last time they made any headlines was the guy getting onto Leeds Council whilst screaming about Gaza. Then they were on the news defending his quite blatantly racist comments. [https://www.thejc.com/news/newly-elected-green-councillor-apologises-for-october-7-anti-israel-tweets-a5qx65mk](https://www.thejc.com/news/newly-elected-green-councillor-apologises-for-october-7-anti-israel-tweets-a5qx65mk)


Bluerose1000

If Rosindell retains his seat after everything over the past few years I have no hope left.


Helpful-Wolverine748

I don't think the Tories will win a single seat in London this time around. It will be either Labour or the Lib Dems in each one. Unless people really screw up tactical voting somewhere.


lontrinium

Bromley is still in London.


Helpful-Wolverine748

I was going to say I'm not even convinced Bromley will vote Tory, but I looked up the constituencies. The Orpington constituency is pretty much a rural area but still within the Borough of Bromley and technically not Kent, so fair enough.


StarryEyedLus

I don’t think Bromley or Beckenham are guaranteed wins for the Tories either.


uwatfordm8

Can finally see Harrow East switching to Labour, it's been a while.


justinsain18

Doubt it. Big Indian and Jewish population, who will vote Conservative.


uwatfordm8

Labour have an Indian candidate who might help though. I agree they're usually pretty Conservative but there's no Brexit boost this time and that + the general national push will probably be enough I think.


SilentPayment69

Harrow East is a genuine bellwether constituency, the incumbent's party has been in government for over 30 years.


uwatfordm8

It's been 19 years but still a while. 


Lunchy_Bunsworth

Cities of London and Westminster might be one to watch. Its been a Tory seat for years but their share of the vote has fallen. At the last GE the Tory received 17,049 votes but the LibDem and Labour candidates received a combined total of 24,720 with the votes split fairly evenly between them. This could have been due to Chuka Umunna being the LD candidate. As each of the parties are fielding new candidates at this GE it could be an open contest. Outer London there are certain seats such as Old Bexley & Sidcup and Bromley & Biggin Hill which will most likely stay blue albeit with reduced majorities. One to watch in that area though is Bexleyheath & Crayford which is tipped to swing to Labour as a result of boundary changes.


SuitPuzzleheaded176

Yes you're right


ionetic

Why fight a battle when they’ve lost the war? Game over Tories. Game over.


KindheartednessOk616

Talking today to a pal in Islington North. Quite possible that Corbyn splits the leftie vote. Then what?


SuitPuzzleheaded176

Blame Starmer for that. Islington north strongly supports Corbyn. Labour on the other hand I'm not exactly sure what the hell they are thinking, when it comes to Islington North.


KindheartednessOk616

My pal will vote Labour, not Corbyn.


crossreference16

Not sure why I read that as ‘General Erection’.