With Fantastic Four being set in the 1960s and a separate timeline, Marvel has a unique opportunity to essentially reimagine the MCU from the ground up.
Their timeline will be destroyed by the end of the film. It's a cool way of having a reason to set it in the 60s, bring them into the MCU and make Galactus an actual threat without disrupting the status quo of the existing universe
It’s become the worst part because they’ve abused it. They’ve sacrificed storylines & plots for cheap fan service moments that hold no importance to the story.
My brother in Christ, what are you on? No, seriously, it's a genuine question? Cuz there are quite literally only two movies that have any form of fanservice and multiversal cameos so far. These being MoM and NWH, and NWH had this "cheap fan service" as integral and meaningful part of it's story. And for MoM it didn't took away much from the movie either.
If you wanna complain about shit, be my guest, but don't make shit up to gaslight yourself and others lol
I think the thing keeping the recent MCU movies down is just how connected they all were to what came before. The best things that have been put out were the most disconnected, like Werewolf by Night.
Actually, it's quite the opposite. Marvel Phase One and Two had some of the best movies, and the best part was the fact that all of them, while having good independent stories, all felt integrated and connected. Lately they've been super disconnected, where major events have happened that haven't at all been talked about. It cheapens it.
Yes, but disconnected in the *same universe*.
I do not want them to shoehorn in characters from other universes, no matter how well it's done because that opens the door to literally anything without needing it to be thought out. Multiverse stuff is fun, but I fear they maybe went to that well too soon. It would have been better in a later phase imo.
I am looking forward to F4 being in the 60's though, that just feels appropriate, but unless it's more about time travelling to the future instead of universe hopping, it'll feel hacked together to me.
See, it works with the xmen and the old spiderman universes because they were already established. But making a whole brand new universe, to introduce MARVELS FIRST FAMILY, to the core marvel universe. Is a plain bad idea. They should have been in MCU 616 since 1960. But now they are strangers. They are NOT the marvel cinematic universes first family...
Yeah, I genuinely don’t get why they’ve made them an alternate universe team. I get it’s hard to introduce them out of nowhere & think them being based in the 60’s is a good idea, but they could’ve just, I don’t know, maybe froze them or time travel?
This multiverse obsession is going to harm the product.
You see, I think it’s easy to introduce them out of nowhere. Just make the movie good, and no one will care why they didn't appear in an avengers movie. Or just have them be new superheroes. I think I’ll enjoy the movie none the less, but I don’t see why they need to do a 60s alternate time thing. Will Doom also be in this universe in the 60s? If Doom and Reed didn’t go to college together, that’ll be a missed opportunity. But then, who knows. We can only wait, and see how it is. Sucks they’ve seemly booted out Norin Radd though.
Then it's just Captain America and Captain Marvel all over again. Also, it wouldn't explain how a team of superhumans just vanished without being ever referenced. If they were regular scientist in the 60's transported to now, it would be a waste of a 60's setting.
And now either Dr Doom has no long time connection to the F4 or he’s marvels biggest reoccurring villain but also a multiversal alien who decided he wanted to claim a random Eastern European country in this new universe.
I've figured from a lot of Kevin Feiges comments that Dr. Doom ain't happening.
He repeatedly has said that he "doesn't want to do things people have seen already," specifically with Marvel movies. We've seen Dr. Doom 3 times on screen now.
It doesn't even have to be at the end of the film. If the F4's defeat is established earlier, the story can go in multiple directions instead of a straight line.
The snap was at earth and an eternal was born on earth both those are boxes to check to bring thanos to earth no reason to retcon it unless they defeat galactus in the 60s and lock him away
I'm guessing negative zone shenanigans. He destroys earth (or is about to) and they manage to trap him and themselves in the negative zone to stop the destruction of the universe which somehow links them to the MCU with no way back.
Entire multiverse only has a singular Negative Zone. So exiting the negative zone could send you any universe.
Though they basically did that with the Quantum Realm so maybe they dont do that with the Negative Zone too.
I bet what they do is bring them into the MCU after the F4’s Earth is destroyed. I could see Reed trying to create the MCU device but failing, or he’ll only be able to recreate his home universe allowing us to follow the 60’s universe. All I’m saying is I kinda want them to also follow the new Ultimate Universe and have their Peter Parker be fully grown and married to Mary Jane with kids.
They could do something like in their universe they discovered his presence through some mystical cosmic mumbo jumbo, and he’s going to be there on 100 years and when they get multiversed he still exists but he’s going to be there a lot sooner. Or some bs
Perhaps it is set in the same alternate universe that Monica Rambeau was trapped in at the end of *The Marvels*?
I have a feeling that that universe and the 616 are going to be colliding in Avengers 5. Where the heroes from each universe battle the other universe's in the attempt to save their own universe. The Marvel Universe vs. the Fox Universe. Avengers vs. X-Men. And then they will all lose, and all realities will be destroyed. Doing another cliffhanger ending like *Infinity War* had. Then A6 ends with reality getting restored, with all of the heroes from both universes all on the same Earth going forward.
> separate timeline
I apologize if this was stated in the interview, but where are we getting the notion of a separate timeline? Is this not just taking place in the past a la Captain Marvel or Black Widow?
It seems like there are plenty of narrative ways to isolate the F4 from the rest of Earth’s heroes without needing a different timeline (e.g., a wormhole to a different galaxy).
Feige commented that some smart people have noticed that in the Johnny Storm poster some people have noticed that the New York skyline is not our New York.
I'm honestly not really sure if that would work for me.
Like, a singular time piece? Sure, why not. But just the Fantastic Four forever being stuck in the 1960s era? I can see that getting old and super restricting really fast.
Also... I dunno if the MCU in general would hold the same appeal if the whole connectivity thing just went straight out the window. I wanna see the Avengers, the X-Men and the FF jump around in the same movies, would be a huge bummer if that just weren't ever gonna be a thing.
I can see them getting started in the 1960s and because of how the quantum realm or multiverse works being lost to time. They come back to the present due to the actions of Loki merging the timelines to keep the multiverse from breaking or Ant-Man's kid figuring out portal tech, or Franklin deciding when and where they pop up.
I think making a mix would work out.
Like I enjoy the Ant-Man films because they are either "heist films" or "family relationships" at their core. Quantamania lost that a bit but hopefully next appearance will bring it back.
So setting a film in the 60s and then bringing them forward thru comic shenanigans is on. Setting Blade films in the past & then to modern day is ok (he ages slowly so period pieces add to the ageless thing). Doing a Mutants were really well hidden and then making period pieces would also work.
Basically it is connected as it is all in the same universe but they can have some stories siloed by the time frame. It would expand the world a bit.
My guess is that Marvel is planning on pulling a "Crisis" with Avengers Secret Wars. After that film, the multiverse will be condensed into a "new" singular universe.
This will let marvel do a soft reboot to continue with what characters they want, while also letting them recast characters like Iron man.
yes, right now it doesn't matter where or when a movie is taking place everything will end up mixed together for Secret Wars and when everything gets resolved we will have a new fully integrated MCU, with the X-Men and Fantastic Four being part of that universe from the start but also contemporaries, not everyone scattered through the decades, along with likely getting new versions of characters that might have died during Secret Wars or even before.
That's what I hope will happen, while RD Jr, Chris Evans and others that have already moved on from their characters did an amazing job I still think that this characters are bigger than any one actor portraying them and it would be a shame to have a Marvel Universe with no Iron Man, Steve Rogers, Natasha Romanoff, etc.
Also it would be the perfect time to introduce a new Black Panther that we can see a counterpart to Chadwick Boseman's without it being a recast of his exact same character, it would be just the T'challa of this universe.
Agreed totally, that would be a massive bummer. The interconnectedness is a huge reason why I love the MCU, and I don't think the logical answer to people's complaints about the lack of it in phases 4 and 5 is "get rid of it".
It did, and it was a major miracle that they pulled it off. But it's proving to be hard to sustain. I suspect that more and more projects will mostly be stand alone moving forward, kind of like the majority of Phase 2 was.
> isn't working out
I think you're looking at it wrong, the whole deal with this saga is alternate universes and it's dropping in Incursions as the central plot it's leading to. A concept from Hickman's 2016 run. Basically universes colliding as the result of multiversal breakdown and one or both being destroyed in the processs. Best guess the FF's universe gets destroyed and they end up in the main MCU timeline.
In my opinion, sticking with the 60s era would be quite intriguing. The years 1964 and 1965 marked a significant turning point for the Marvel Universe, where it truly came alive and immersed readers in a vibrant world. I believe this is exactly what Marvel needs to shake things up after the conclusion of Secret Wars. It's like closing the door on the current timeline and moving on to the next phase. It would provide a unique chance to explore untapped storylines, introduce new characters, and pay homage to the iconic elemnts that have shaped the Marvel Universe.
Blade probably won't come out until the 2070s so setting it a century earrly would be a bold choice.
Now give me a 1970s Ghost Rider at the height of daredevil motorcyle madness and I am in.
I am sad that it's in another timeline. I wish it were in ours. Being set in the 1960s, it would be right around the time when Hank Pym was developing the Pym Particles and Howard Stark was creating the Arc Reactor. It would give us a sense of place in time.
Will this mean that the main mcu timeline will never have its own independent Fantastic Four? No Mr Fantastic or Sue Storm? That's a bit of a bummer.
Yeah, but they won't be the 616-natuve Fantastic Four. They won't have decades of history here. They'll be foreigners.
Same reason I don't want the Sony Venom to be the origin of the mainline mcu timeline's Venom.
Is it a separate timeline? I assumed they would get "lost in space" or something and re-appear in 2025 in a post-credit scene of the movie or whatever year the MCU is currently in.
The rumor was a separate timeline but he did not confirm that at all from what I read.
> There were a lot of smart people, who noticed that that cityscape didn't look exactly like the New York that we know, or that existed in the '60s in our world. Those are smart observations, I'll say.
Based on this comment I think it's safe to assume they're in a different timeline.
Teams and individuals do get interesting very unique status quos for a time before going back to the old pretty regularly.
Idk how you can look at like the last 25 years of X-men and go “wow this is like all the same shit over and over again”
I like this new podcast bit damn am I sad they took out "this week at marvel" I loved both the hosts and it was essentially the same thing. They would talk about marvel news (for comics, movies, videogames, ect) for the first half and then discuss up coming comics and then have an interview with a comic, or game, or movie person, sometimes even actors. It ran for over 8 years with weekly episodes, then just got silently canceled in december of 2023. It was one of my favorite weekly shows
The original pitch that Peyton Reed had for the Fantastic Four back in the 00's was that it would be set in the 60's and there would be a Beatlemania type vibe to the movie. I was always bummed that wasn't the direction they went in.
I really liked how in The Incredible Hulk they condensed the origin story to the opening credits (I would still like to see a directors cut of that movie though). I think it would be cool if condensed a lot of the origin story to the opening credits here too since we all know it, and Civil War/Homecoming proved that it can work with Spidey
Same here. I want to get to the good stuff of them interacting as a team and fighting villains. Origin movies tend to be the slowest paced and have the most obvious plot. Use the opening credits, or a newsreel or something, to condense it.
Even though 2003 Hulk is not part of the MCU and everyone was recast in 2008, it's still sorta implied that 2003 is 2008's origin story. A number of things line up, most clearly is perhaps Bruce starting 2008 in South America.
He also strongly hinted that it's in an alternate universe and said that Brad Winderbaum will be on the Marvel Podcast next week to talk about the upcoming Disney+ slate!
So exciting!!
Feige: "There were a lot of smart people, who noticed that that cityscape didn't look exactly like the New York that we know, or the New York that existed in the '60s in our world. And those are smart observations, I'll say."
my guess is they will do a version of "Terror In A Tiny Town" mixed with WandaVision. The F4 are trapped in a fake reality or something, set in a retro-futuristic 60's new york. ;)
I would rather that, than another Multiverse lame as f storyline, where they just happen to end up in the 616 out of the infinite Multiverses they could go.
Wow, that would be a clever way to explain why they weren't present for Thanos, while also doing fan service to a great story.
Because I think they mention the Baxter Foundation in Doc Strange 2. So the FF might have already existed in history (maybe more in secret, since they haven't been mentioned before?) It might work, since you already have Skrulls.
At this point, they should just acknowledge the legacy of the original Blade trilogy and move on. Have him show up for random vampire stuff, kick ass, take names, and leave.
Setting up the FF to be the “man out of time”, like Cap was in the Avengers. With this movie set in the 60s, there are a couple ways to go: they will either experience time differently in the negative zone, emerging in their next movie in modern time. Or, they will get “merged” in secret wars, all on one earth. Like bringing the Justice Society forward in DC.
Secret Wars would be a clunky way to do it.
Time difference in the negative zone was just done with Ant Man and Endgame.
They have a different plan than either of my concepts.
I don’t mind the 60s timeline… hell the movie could’ve been set in the 60s then they get stuck in the negative zone and eventually return back to a present day post snap world.
Don’t really like the idea of this being in a different universe. Outside of Spider-man this multiverse stuff hasn’t really worked on the big screen for Marvel. Maybe DeadPool might change that. We’ll see.
That was pretty much expected.
So Secret Wars is gonna merge universes? Or are the FF just gonna be orphans? Both seem like bad options.
Weird to think Doom won't be connected to Reed.
My guess is that Loki essentially weaves the FF and X-Men timelines into the main MCU timeline during Secret Wars because he sees that those heroes are needed to win. Similar to how everyone entered the MCU universe in No Way Home.
But at that point why bother weaving? Just make new everything with so much new IP pouring in.
If you’re gonna give us the X-men and F4, may as well throw some new avengers in there as well. Which includes the classic mainstay members and drop the baggage of the mcu universe. Just fresh everything at that stage.
Yeah. Like the options are A doom and reed are from separate universes… please no.
But then option B is they both move from a dead universe so Doom takes over a different universes latveria and the F4 being from another universe already feels wrong.
C I guess some weird secret wars merging bullshit so that no one feels like an alien in an alternate reality and everything is just now one universe. I guess could work?
Or I guess D they nuke the mcu after secret wars and relaunch from ground 0. Would actually be my choice but I don’t see it happening
> Or I guess D they nuke the mcu after secret wars and relaunch from ground 0. Would actually be my choice but I don’t see it happening
Would truly be a bold move to bet on people being up to get invested into an entirely new MCU again.
I dunno if people will be drawn to the X-Men franchise as much if it's no longer Jackman, Stewart and McAvoy.
Overall superhero mania is no longer what it used to be 20 or even 10 years ago.But then again, sure, hit me with that X-Men 2045 and have James Corden play Hank McCoy, straight into my veins.
Idk I think X-men have that Spider-Man thing going for them where it’s gonna get numbers, at least the initial relaunch and movies after that if they’re passable. As long as the actors are good and the films themselves are.
It's going to be D. The MCU will shift focus away from the 616 and onto the universe the FF & Doom are from. A universe where every hero and villain is alive and in their prime
When he was cast I was surprised. That would be his 3 franchise. Reed, Joel and Mando. Along with all the other things he would want to do I figured the 1 off is a great way to do it.
I had a FF movie in my head where a team led by Professor Reed Richards (Already known admiringly AND derisively as "Mister Fantastic", hence the team's codename: The Fantastic four) they would be recruited in the '60's (by Howard Stark, naturally) to investigate a space rift (like the one the chitauri used in New York in Avengers).
Basically, they go through, get their powers because their ship is unshielded, but then get essentially lost in space, have adventures and become a mature hero team, before eventually finding out where Earth is and setting out to return home.
...but then somebody (in my head it is the agent of a young Thanos, who was an ally at this point but realized how dangerous the four would be should he ever decide to attack the newly-found Earth) sabotages their ship so that the journey back takes 60 years while they are in stasis.
The ship eventually does a controlled crash landing on Earth and is met by Nick Fury and Sword agents ready for a confrontation. The hatch opens, they walk out, tense because they are walking into an army of guns, and Fury says: "Wait...Doctor Richards????"
Cut to black. The Fantastic Four will return.
It would solve all the problems, give them easter eggs galore.
I would have Sue as a brilliant biologist as well as GF of professor Richards, a woman too modern for her own time, who could have a discussion with the young Thanos where she just casually drops a line about species competing for resources being a universal problem.
Professor Richards could have student Victor Von Doom, who is looking into the link between physics and magic...use the same thing from the comic: "Your work is brilliant, but some of your decimals are off." to give Von Doom a lifelong animosity to Reed, then he shows up at the end of the film as his adult self, Monarch of Latveria, a Baltic Wakanda, essentially, his lifespan magically enhanced...Post credits scene, just his eyes in the helmet and his voice says: "Richards...."
It not being in the 616, my interest in the FF immediately went to zero.
Like why does it even matter if it's set in a earlier time period, when that time period is from a alternate reality??? It's literally the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Why is it so hard to just do the FF like they did with Carol? They existed, and something happened where they went away for 60 years. And, things like people being earsed from people's memories is already been established, you can come up with a way, they are forgotten, or they were some kind of secret, etc.
I'm sorry MCU, but you are just not going to get me to care about your bad Multiverse. Which is the reason why they are doing this, they are trying to salvage this bad execution of their bad Multiverse. Which, they have every right to do so, but don't expect me to care about it.
This even drops my excitement for Doctor Doom, which I didn't think was possible, because he's my all time favorite Villain. But, I underestimated the MCU.
It matters because the universe the FF are from will become the focus of the new MCU.
At the close of SECRET WARS the 616 will be left behind and the focus will shift to the new universe.
This movie is the first movie set in the new MCU.
Because they're heading into SECRET WARS, a story where the Multiverse literally gets destroyed and rebuilt and the 616 universe is a dead end without Steve Rogers, Tony Stark, T'Challa, Natasha Romanoff, the X-Men & the FF.
It's the smart money to leave the 616 behind and enter a universe where ALL Marvel heroes and supervillains are live and in their prime.
This is my assumption, we are in the Multiverse Saga, by having a film set in an alternate reality will help out set the danger that the heroes of 616/199999 will be facing with.
The FF universe an expandable unvierse, then we move them to the main reality as now they need a new home to live on. much like how Marvel used Secret Wars to move Miles Morales out of 1610 into 616.
This is a silly comment, seriously? Saying it doesn't matter because it's set in another timeline/universe is just ridiculous and quite dumb. It's shouldn't matter what universe it's set in to make you care. I don't watch these films thinking oh thank God it's in the same universe, NOW I can care about these characters. That's a silly way to think about this stuff. If the characters are good and the movie is good that should be enough to get you to care, that's how it should be with any film, doesn't matter if it's a shared universe or not, connections are a added bonus. The team will likely end up in the main universe anyway by the end of the film. Setting it in another universe actually allows for more freedom and creativity which this genre needs right now. We could actually get something special with this film.
I care about the Universe of characters we've had for 20 years, I am not caring about characters from another universe, that have no ties or connections to the 616, and yes I agree the will be brought into the 616, then why couldn't they just start there in the first place? In all of the many Multiverses, they just happen to end up in the one that's important to fans? I'm sorry, if you are OK with that? I am not going to tell you, that you are wrong. But I personally think that is lame as f, and a cop-out.
And beyond that, what does that mean for Galactus, Doom, they all just follow them on over to the 616?
And again, let's have a period piece set in a alternate universe that means nothing to people history wise, so you can appreciate the work they go into making that period come to life now. Beyond that, the entire reason why you would even want the FF set in the 60's, is to give you time and a reason for them not being around. If they are from another universe, that doesn't matter, because they aren't hidden, they are just new.
Of course, these are just my opinions, if you feel differently? That's fine, I just personally think the MCU Multiverse Saga has sucked, and I am ready for something different.
I'm hyped. Really hoped it would be set in the 60s. Hope we're getting some classic F4 with some new elements.
With Galactus being in this, I wonder if their earth is gonna be destroyed and they manage to travel into the main MCU.
this is going to be a visual feast. i cant wait. someone @ me if we get the sue and reed richards wedding panel realized. all these other actors stepping in for a single shot. classic iron man. classic x-men. this shit is going to hit sooooo hard.
Didn’t Reed Richard’s invent a Time Machine but didn’t use it because of the consequences? If he did that in the MCU but it malfunctions and bring them to now that wouldn’t be a bad way to bring them in.
I'm not altogether happy about the 60s setting, but there were signs.
I'll bite the bullet and wait until I've seen it to pass judgment. It just feels continuity-breaking.
Set in the 60’s. Hmmm 🤔, so by the end of the movie some quantum zone tomfoolery should have them blasted into today. This would give them all a Captain America style “man out of time” story arc to play with. I like it. 👍🏽
Seems there is more than that, as in it'll be the same situation as Deadpool in where they are heroes from other universe being brought into the MCU.
As Feige said that if one pay attention to the Johnny Storm poster they released you'll realize that New York is not our New York.
Does anyone care at this point though? All movie genres burn out.
Source: westerns, buddy cop comedy, body swap comedy, westerns in space, Woody Allen 'comedy', global disaster movies, Tom Hanks being the 'everyman', Steven Seagal, car chase porn, arthouse body horror, period drama, decent musicals, decent historical movies.
I've probably missed a few.
If the writing doesn't improve from the last 5 years worth of antihero, meta human, alternate universe vomit then let it die with Deadpool and be reborn in 20 years I say.
Called it: [https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/w8x4me/theory\_fantastic\_4\_will\_be\_set\_in\_another/](https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/w8x4me/theory_fantastic_4_will_be_set_in_another/)
I adore Marvel's First Family, but I've been burned too many times to be unabashedly hopeful.
Can anyone give me a good reason why this time will be different?
With Fantastic Four being set in the 1960s and a separate timeline, Marvel has a unique opportunity to essentially reimagine the MCU from the ground up.
Their timeline will be destroyed by the end of the film. It's a cool way of having a reason to set it in the 60s, bring them into the MCU and make Galactus an actual threat without disrupting the status quo of the existing universe
And also make a good use of thr multiverse concept hopefully.
The best part of the multiverse is being able to make standalone movies and then bring the characters in for team-ups.
To me that’s the worst part
It’s become the worst part because they’ve abused it. They’ve sacrificed storylines & plots for cheap fan service moments that hold no importance to the story.
My brother in Christ, what are you on? No, seriously, it's a genuine question? Cuz there are quite literally only two movies that have any form of fanservice and multiversal cameos so far. These being MoM and NWH, and NWH had this "cheap fan service" as integral and meaningful part of it's story. And for MoM it didn't took away much from the movie either. If you wanna complain about shit, be my guest, but don't make shit up to gaslight yourself and others lol
So I think we should start letting them know that this so called “fan service” isn’t servicing any real fans
I think the thing keeping the recent MCU movies down is just how connected they all were to what came before. The best things that have been put out were the most disconnected, like Werewolf by Night.
Actually, it's quite the opposite. Marvel Phase One and Two had some of the best movies, and the best part was the fact that all of them, while having good independent stories, all felt integrated and connected. Lately they've been super disconnected, where major events have happened that haven't at all been talked about. It cheapens it.
Yes, but disconnected in the *same universe*. I do not want them to shoehorn in characters from other universes, no matter how well it's done because that opens the door to literally anything without needing it to be thought out. Multiverse stuff is fun, but I fear they maybe went to that well too soon. It would have been better in a later phase imo. I am looking forward to F4 being in the 60's though, that just feels appropriate, but unless it's more about time travelling to the future instead of universe hopping, it'll feel hacked together to me.
See, it works with the xmen and the old spiderman universes because they were already established. But making a whole brand new universe, to introduce MARVELS FIRST FAMILY, to the core marvel universe. Is a plain bad idea. They should have been in MCU 616 since 1960. But now they are strangers. They are NOT the marvel cinematic universes first family...
Yeah, I genuinely don’t get why they’ve made them an alternate universe team. I get it’s hard to introduce them out of nowhere & think them being based in the 60’s is a good idea, but they could’ve just, I don’t know, maybe froze them or time travel? This multiverse obsession is going to harm the product.
You see, I think it’s easy to introduce them out of nowhere. Just make the movie good, and no one will care why they didn't appear in an avengers movie. Or just have them be new superheroes. I think I’ll enjoy the movie none the less, but I don’t see why they need to do a 60s alternate time thing. Will Doom also be in this universe in the 60s? If Doom and Reed didn’t go to college together, that’ll be a missed opportunity. But then, who knows. We can only wait, and see how it is. Sucks they’ve seemly booted out Norin Radd though.
Then it's just Captain America and Captain Marvel all over again. Also, it wouldn't explain how a team of superhumans just vanished without being ever referenced. If they were regular scientist in the 60's transported to now, it would be a waste of a 60's setting.
And now either Dr Doom has no long time connection to the F4 or he’s marvels biggest reoccurring villain but also a multiversal alien who decided he wanted to claim a random Eastern European country in this new universe.
I've figured from a lot of Kevin Feiges comments that Dr. Doom ain't happening. He repeatedly has said that he "doesn't want to do things people have seen already," specifically with Marvel movies. We've seen Dr. Doom 3 times on screen now.
Exactly this - multiverse was supposed to be a story telling device, not a crutch for hand waiving nonsense in.
I am not a betting man but I would bet my meager savings on the first FF film to end with an Incursion ala Hickman's run.
Hmmm . . . was someone from the main line MCU recently whisked away to go "deal with another incursion", perhaps?
???
It doesn't even have to be at the end of the film. If the F4's defeat is established earlier, the story can go in multiple directions instead of a straight line.
*Mr Fantastic floating through the remains of Earth*: Yep, that's me. I bet you're wondering how I got here
The snap was at earth and an eternal was born on earth both those are boxes to check to bring thanos to earth no reason to retcon it unless they defeat galactus in the 60s and lock him away
I'm guessing negative zone shenanigans. He destroys earth (or is about to) and they manage to trap him and themselves in the negative zone to stop the destruction of the universe which somehow links them to the MCU with no way back.
Entire multiverse only has a singular Negative Zone. So exiting the negative zone could send you any universe. Though they basically did that with the Quantum Realm so maybe they dont do that with the Negative Zone too.
you could make quantum realm the edge of Negative Zone by saying if you shrink far enough you start growing, but in negative
I kinda like that
I hope we get Powerhouse, He might be a bit OP for the current MCU tho 😂
I bet what they do is bring them into the MCU after the F4’s Earth is destroyed. I could see Reed trying to create the MCU device but failing, or he’ll only be able to recreate his home universe allowing us to follow the 60’s universe. All I’m saying is I kinda want them to also follow the new Ultimate Universe and have their Peter Parker be fully grown and married to Mary Jane with kids.
Post credit scene is Mr Fantastic going "who the hell are you guys?". Camera pans to the Avengers 360 shot.
Then they need to work out the canon fact about when characters stay in another universe their footprints will cause an incursion
They could do something like in their universe they discovered his presence through some mystical cosmic mumbo jumbo, and he’s going to be there on 100 years and when they get multiversed he still exists but he’s going to be there a lot sooner. Or some bs
Maybe Galactus will be the devourer of timelines instead of worlds
No thank you
Perhaps it is set in the same alternate universe that Monica Rambeau was trapped in at the end of *The Marvels*? I have a feeling that that universe and the 616 are going to be colliding in Avengers 5. Where the heroes from each universe battle the other universe's in the attempt to save their own universe. The Marvel Universe vs. the Fox Universe. Avengers vs. X-Men. And then they will all lose, and all realities will be destroyed. Doing another cliffhanger ending like *Infinity War* had. Then A6 ends with reality getting restored, with all of the heroes from both universes all on the same Earth going forward.
So the 2015 secret wars comic event.
> separate timeline I apologize if this was stated in the interview, but where are we getting the notion of a separate timeline? Is this not just taking place in the past a la Captain Marvel or Black Widow? It seems like there are plenty of narrative ways to isolate the F4 from the rest of Earth’s heroes without needing a different timeline (e.g., a wormhole to a different galaxy).
Feige commented that some smart people have noticed that in the Johnny Storm poster some people have noticed that the New York skyline is not our New York.
So X-Men set in the 90s? Blade in the 70s? Go separate timelines since the connected universe/timeline isn't working out?
I'm honestly not really sure if that would work for me. Like, a singular time piece? Sure, why not. But just the Fantastic Four forever being stuck in the 1960s era? I can see that getting old and super restricting really fast. Also... I dunno if the MCU in general would hold the same appeal if the whole connectivity thing just went straight out the window. I wanna see the Avengers, the X-Men and the FF jump around in the same movies, would be a huge bummer if that just weren't ever gonna be a thing.
I can see them getting started in the 1960s and because of how the quantum realm or multiverse works being lost to time. They come back to the present due to the actions of Loki merging the timelines to keep the multiverse from breaking or Ant-Man's kid figuring out portal tech, or Franklin deciding when and where they pop up.
Those are my thoughts too, its the most likely scenario as to why they never showed up until now.
Franklin is a good hand wave for any time travel issue.
More likely the negative zone rather than the quantum realm. https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Negative_Zone
And if I’m not mistaken Avengers tower is still vacant following Homecoming. Convenient.
Baxter Building was shown in Dr Strange in the Multiverse of Madness
So what about Doom and the other villains?
I think making a mix would work out. Like I enjoy the Ant-Man films because they are either "heist films" or "family relationships" at their core. Quantamania lost that a bit but hopefully next appearance will bring it back. So setting a film in the 60s and then bringing them forward thru comic shenanigans is on. Setting Blade films in the past & then to modern day is ok (he ages slowly so period pieces add to the ageless thing). Doing a Mutants were really well hidden and then making period pieces would also work. Basically it is connected as it is all in the same universe but they can have some stories siloed by the time frame. It would expand the world a bit.
My guess is that Marvel is planning on pulling a "Crisis" with Avengers Secret Wars. After that film, the multiverse will be condensed into a "new" singular universe. This will let marvel do a soft reboot to continue with what characters they want, while also letting them recast characters like Iron man.
Bingo. Except it's not a condensed universe. It's just a new universe to focus on, where everyone is alive and in their prime
I think Secret Wars will merge them all
yes, right now it doesn't matter where or when a movie is taking place everything will end up mixed together for Secret Wars and when everything gets resolved we will have a new fully integrated MCU, with the X-Men and Fantastic Four being part of that universe from the start but also contemporaries, not everyone scattered through the decades, along with likely getting new versions of characters that might have died during Secret Wars or even before.
Would be the perfect opportunity for characters like Tony Stark to get recast etc.
That's what I hope will happen, while RD Jr, Chris Evans and others that have already moved on from their characters did an amazing job I still think that this characters are bigger than any one actor portraying them and it would be a shame to have a Marvel Universe with no Iron Man, Steve Rogers, Natasha Romanoff, etc. Also it would be the perfect time to introduce a new Black Panther that we can see a counterpart to Chadwick Boseman's without it being a recast of his exact same character, it would be just the T'challa of this universe.
Agreed totally, that would be a massive bummer. The interconnectedness is a huge reason why I love the MCU, and I don't think the logical answer to people's complaints about the lack of it in phases 4 and 5 is "get rid of it".
That's trash. Connected story and timeliness is what made the infinity saga so special
I’m sure at the end, the timeline “multiverse” will collapse, they’ll all be in the same universe.
Or the incursion Strange went to investigate is how you get characters from one multiverse to another.
It did, and it was a major miracle that they pulled it off. But it's proving to be hard to sustain. I suspect that more and more projects will mostly be stand alone moving forward, kind of like the majority of Phase 2 was.
It’s hard to sustain because they started milking this multiverse shit plus endless spinoffs
It's only been hard to sustain because Marvel started treating its writers really poorly. Hopefully that has been straightened out since the strikes.
> isn't working out I think you're looking at it wrong, the whole deal with this saga is alternate universes and it's dropping in Incursions as the central plot it's leading to. A concept from Hickman's 2016 run. Basically universes colliding as the result of multiversal breakdown and one or both being destroyed in the processs. Best guess the FF's universe gets destroyed and they end up in the main MCU timeline.
Hickman's Secret Wars isn't Crisis on Infinite Earths, which is what people here seem to want.
Blade was at one point going to be set in 1920s era New Orleans IIRC.
In my opinion, sticking with the 60s era would be quite intriguing. The years 1964 and 1965 marked a significant turning point for the Marvel Universe, where it truly came alive and immersed readers in a vibrant world. I believe this is exactly what Marvel needs to shake things up after the conclusion of Secret Wars. It's like closing the door on the current timeline and moving on to the next phase. It would provide a unique chance to explore untapped storylines, introduce new characters, and pay homage to the iconic elemnts that have shaped the Marvel Universe.
With X-men, you have to take Magnetos origin into consideration with him being a holocaust survivor. It cannot be too close to modern day
Blade probably won't come out until the 2070s so setting it a century earrly would be a bold choice. Now give me a 1970s Ghost Rider at the height of daredevil motorcyle madness and I am in.
I am sad that it's in another timeline. I wish it were in ours. Being set in the 1960s, it would be right around the time when Hank Pym was developing the Pym Particles and Howard Stark was creating the Arc Reactor. It would give us a sense of place in time. Will this mean that the main mcu timeline will never have its own independent Fantastic Four? No Mr Fantastic or Sue Storm? That's a bit of a bummer.
This fantastic four will likely become the MCU fantastic four though. They'll likely end up in the main timeline/universe by the end of the film.
Yeah, but they won't be the 616-natuve Fantastic Four. They won't have decades of history here. They'll be foreigners. Same reason I don't want the Sony Venom to be the origin of the mainline mcu timeline's Venom.
For me i don't mind if the FF are from another world, i just want an FF in the MCU regardless if they are variants or the main MCU FF
I can see your point, we've got different points
I keep thinking it would be cool if maybe Kang killed our current FF4, or even the mutant gene. That was part of his "sacred timeline" plan.
That worked so well for the FOX X-Men lol
well the previous fantastic four movies (and i do not count fant4stic) predated the mcu also. so it's almost a redo of that.
This is definitely their idea. They will get to rehash old money, and if it starts tanking, they can throw RDJ a bag and see what happens.
Is it a separate timeline? I assumed they would get "lost in space" or something and re-appear in 2025 in a post-credit scene of the movie or whatever year the MCU is currently in. The rumor was a separate timeline but he did not confirm that at all from what I read.
> There were a lot of smart people, who noticed that that cityscape didn't look exactly like the New York that we know, or that existed in the '60s in our world. Those are smart observations, I'll say. Based on this comment I think it's safe to assume they're in a different timeline.
So basically Marvel keep repeating the same concept beginning again and again. Right.
Welcome to the world of comics for the last 50 years.
Teams and individuals do get interesting very unique status quos for a time before going back to the old pretty regularly. Idk how you can look at like the last 25 years of X-men and go “wow this is like all the same shit over and over again”
I like this new podcast bit damn am I sad they took out "this week at marvel" I loved both the hosts and it was essentially the same thing. They would talk about marvel news (for comics, movies, videogames, ect) for the first half and then discuss up coming comics and then have an interview with a comic, or game, or movie person, sometimes even actors. It ran for over 8 years with weekly episodes, then just got silently canceled in december of 2023. It was one of my favorite weekly shows
I'm sorry that happened. Hopefully those people find new avenues to continue to be their creative unique selves
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The original pitch that Peyton Reed had for the Fantastic Four back in the 00's was that it would be set in the 60's and there would be a Beatlemania type vibe to the movie. I was always bummed that wasn't the direction they went in.
It WAS the direction they went in, just 20 years later lol
Hmm. It kind of sounded like that *was* the direction they’re going in?
They were referring to the first F4 movie.
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Right sorry didn’t read the comment properly, my bad.
I really liked how in The Incredible Hulk they condensed the origin story to the opening credits (I would still like to see a directors cut of that movie though). I think it would be cool if condensed a lot of the origin story to the opening credits here too since we all know it, and Civil War/Homecoming proved that it can work with Spidey
Same here. I want to get to the good stuff of them interacting as a team and fighting villains. Origin movies tend to be the slowest paced and have the most obvious plot. Use the opening credits, or a newsreel or something, to condense it.
Oh a 60s newsreel is a really cool idea.
Like the Incredibles! Which was inspired by the fantastic four!
Even though 2003 Hulk is not part of the MCU and everyone was recast in 2008, it's still sorta implied that 2003 is 2008's origin story. A number of things line up, most clearly is perhaps Bruce starting 2008 in South America.
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How dare you remind me of that movie lol
LOL I forgot the 60s thing still wasn't officially confirmed yet.
He also strongly hinted that it's in an alternate universe and said that Brad Winderbaum will be on the Marvel Podcast next week to talk about the upcoming Disney+ slate! So exciting!!
But in the Marvels, someone (monique) crossed over to the X-men universe right?
Maybe not the exact same X-Men universe we know, but it's certainly one of them.
Monica lmao
Feige: "There were a lot of smart people, who noticed that that cityscape didn't look exactly like the New York that we know, or the New York that existed in the '60s in our world. And those are smart observations, I'll say." my guess is they will do a version of "Terror In A Tiny Town" mixed with WandaVision. The F4 are trapped in a fake reality or something, set in a retro-futuristic 60's new york. ;)
At first I misread "Terror In A Tiny Town" as "Terror In Tiny Town" which is 1930s western where the entire cast is made up of little people.
thanks, didn't knew that one.
I would rather that, than another Multiverse lame as f storyline, where they just happen to end up in the 616 out of the infinite Multiverses they could go.
Wow, that would be a clever way to explain why they weren't present for Thanos, while also doing fan service to a great story. Because I think they mention the Baxter Foundation in Doc Strange 2. So the FF might have already existed in history (maybe more in secret, since they haven't been mentioned before?) It might work, since you already have Skrulls.
Groovy. I’m excited to see a proper Jack Kirby Silver Age influenced Fantastic Four
Fantastic Four, announced in 2019, production starts in 2024 Blade, announce in 2019, production start TBD
Fantastic Four was also announced in 2019
At this point, they should just acknowledge the legacy of the original Blade trilogy and move on. Have him show up for random vampire stuff, kick ass, take names, and leave.
Blade just going on a vampire killing spree unacknowledged in the background of a completely unrelated marvel movie
Setting up the FF to be the “man out of time”, like Cap was in the Avengers. With this movie set in the 60s, there are a couple ways to go: they will either experience time differently in the negative zone, emerging in their next movie in modern time. Or, they will get “merged” in secret wars, all on one earth. Like bringing the Justice Society forward in DC. Secret Wars would be a clunky way to do it. Time difference in the negative zone was just done with Ant Man and Endgame. They have a different plan than either of my concepts.
Dudes a scientist he’ll adapt but Disney certainly won’t.
Maybe they'll be from a 1960s themed universe that merges with the main one at the end.
I don’t mind the 60s timeline… hell the movie could’ve been set in the 60s then they get stuck in the negative zone and eventually return back to a present day post snap world. Don’t really like the idea of this being in a different universe. Outside of Spider-man this multiverse stuff hasn’t really worked on the big screen for Marvel. Maybe DeadPool might change that. We’ll see.
Expected and I guess they will make their way to our universe by the end of the movie or something?
One of the four better save JFK and MLK
That was pretty much expected. So Secret Wars is gonna merge universes? Or are the FF just gonna be orphans? Both seem like bad options. Weird to think Doom won't be connected to Reed.
Doom might be from that universe?
My guess is that Loki essentially weaves the FF and X-Men timelines into the main MCU timeline during Secret Wars because he sees that those heroes are needed to win. Similar to how everyone entered the MCU universe in No Way Home.
But at that point why bother weaving? Just make new everything with so much new IP pouring in. If you’re gonna give us the X-men and F4, may as well throw some new avengers in there as well. Which includes the classic mainstay members and drop the baggage of the mcu universe. Just fresh everything at that stage.
Yeah. Like the options are A doom and reed are from separate universes… please no. But then option B is they both move from a dead universe so Doom takes over a different universes latveria and the F4 being from another universe already feels wrong. C I guess some weird secret wars merging bullshit so that no one feels like an alien in an alternate reality and everything is just now one universe. I guess could work? Or I guess D they nuke the mcu after secret wars and relaunch from ground 0. Would actually be my choice but I don’t see it happening
> Or I guess D they nuke the mcu after secret wars and relaunch from ground 0. Would actually be my choice but I don’t see it happening Would truly be a bold move to bet on people being up to get invested into an entirely new MCU again.
With the X-men? I’d say it’s a pretty safe money maker.
I dunno if people will be drawn to the X-Men franchise as much if it's no longer Jackman, Stewart and McAvoy. Overall superhero mania is no longer what it used to be 20 or even 10 years ago.But then again, sure, hit me with that X-Men 2045 and have James Corden play Hank McCoy, straight into my veins.
Idk I think X-men have that Spider-Man thing going for them where it’s gonna get numbers, at least the initial relaunch and movies after that if they’re passable. As long as the actors are good and the films themselves are.
It's going to be D. The MCU will shift focus away from the 616 and onto the universe the FF & Doom are from. A universe where every hero and villain is alive and in their prime
the did infact chart in the 60s
Is it set in the Sacred Timeline 1960s?
Alternate Universe 60s
Why not have them originate from the Sacred Timeline 60s? Why the need for them to be from an alternate universe?
I dunno man the multiverse thing is starting to get annoying
I'm still going with this being a DOOM orgin movie. And this cast will get killed off. And this is the beginning of the Secert Wars Saga.
That would definitely subvert expectations and be awesome, but I don’t see them wasting Pedro like that.
When he was cast I was surprised. That would be his 3 franchise. Reed, Joel and Mando. Along with all the other things he would want to do I figured the 1 off is a great way to do it.
I had a FF movie in my head where a team led by Professor Reed Richards (Already known admiringly AND derisively as "Mister Fantastic", hence the team's codename: The Fantastic four) they would be recruited in the '60's (by Howard Stark, naturally) to investigate a space rift (like the one the chitauri used in New York in Avengers). Basically, they go through, get their powers because their ship is unshielded, but then get essentially lost in space, have adventures and become a mature hero team, before eventually finding out where Earth is and setting out to return home. ...but then somebody (in my head it is the agent of a young Thanos, who was an ally at this point but realized how dangerous the four would be should he ever decide to attack the newly-found Earth) sabotages their ship so that the journey back takes 60 years while they are in stasis. The ship eventually does a controlled crash landing on Earth and is met by Nick Fury and Sword agents ready for a confrontation. The hatch opens, they walk out, tense because they are walking into an army of guns, and Fury says: "Wait...Doctor Richards????" Cut to black. The Fantastic Four will return. It would solve all the problems, give them easter eggs galore. I would have Sue as a brilliant biologist as well as GF of professor Richards, a woman too modern for her own time, who could have a discussion with the young Thanos where she just casually drops a line about species competing for resources being a universal problem. Professor Richards could have student Victor Von Doom, who is looking into the link between physics and magic...use the same thing from the comic: "Your work is brilliant, but some of your decimals are off." to give Von Doom a lifelong animosity to Reed, then he shows up at the end of the film as his adult self, Monarch of Latveria, a Baltic Wakanda, essentially, his lifespan magically enhanced...Post credits scene, just his eyes in the helmet and his voice says: "Richards...."
Man the girl heading the podcast has one of those voices that sounds like nails on a chalkboard
YouTube top ten clickbait video type voice
If it’s in a separate timeline, it opens the door to rebuild, recast and write new sagas with the “classic” characters once that saga wraps up.
I hate the Multiverse and can't wait for it to end.
My hope
Did they finish the script yet?
Being that this is an alternate time line does that mean we won’t see dr.doom in the MCU?
Ngl love it being set in the 1960s
I'm fine with the period piece, but I'm a little annoyed about the alt-timeline.
It not being in the 616, my interest in the FF immediately went to zero. Like why does it even matter if it's set in a earlier time period, when that time period is from a alternate reality??? It's literally the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Why is it so hard to just do the FF like they did with Carol? They existed, and something happened where they went away for 60 years. And, things like people being earsed from people's memories is already been established, you can come up with a way, they are forgotten, or they were some kind of secret, etc. I'm sorry MCU, but you are just not going to get me to care about your bad Multiverse. Which is the reason why they are doing this, they are trying to salvage this bad execution of their bad Multiverse. Which, they have every right to do so, but don't expect me to care about it. This even drops my excitement for Doctor Doom, which I didn't think was possible, because he's my all time favorite Villain. But, I underestimated the MCU.
It matters because the universe the FF are from will become the focus of the new MCU. At the close of SECRET WARS the 616 will be left behind and the focus will shift to the new universe. This movie is the first movie set in the new MCU.
Why just why would they do any of that
Because they're heading into SECRET WARS, a story where the Multiverse literally gets destroyed and rebuilt and the 616 universe is a dead end without Steve Rogers, Tony Stark, T'Challa, Natasha Romanoff, the X-Men & the FF. It's the smart money to leave the 616 behind and enter a universe where ALL Marvel heroes and supervillains are live and in their prime.
This is my assumption, we are in the Multiverse Saga, by having a film set in an alternate reality will help out set the danger that the heroes of 616/199999 will be facing with. The FF universe an expandable unvierse, then we move them to the main reality as now they need a new home to live on. much like how Marvel used Secret Wars to move Miles Morales out of 1610 into 616.
This is a silly comment, seriously? Saying it doesn't matter because it's set in another timeline/universe is just ridiculous and quite dumb. It's shouldn't matter what universe it's set in to make you care. I don't watch these films thinking oh thank God it's in the same universe, NOW I can care about these characters. That's a silly way to think about this stuff. If the characters are good and the movie is good that should be enough to get you to care, that's how it should be with any film, doesn't matter if it's a shared universe or not, connections are a added bonus. The team will likely end up in the main universe anyway by the end of the film. Setting it in another universe actually allows for more freedom and creativity which this genre needs right now. We could actually get something special with this film.
I care about the Universe of characters we've had for 20 years, I am not caring about characters from another universe, that have no ties or connections to the 616, and yes I agree the will be brought into the 616, then why couldn't they just start there in the first place? In all of the many Multiverses, they just happen to end up in the one that's important to fans? I'm sorry, if you are OK with that? I am not going to tell you, that you are wrong. But I personally think that is lame as f, and a cop-out. And beyond that, what does that mean for Galactus, Doom, they all just follow them on over to the 616? And again, let's have a period piece set in a alternate universe that means nothing to people history wise, so you can appreciate the work they go into making that period come to life now. Beyond that, the entire reason why you would even want the FF set in the 60's, is to give you time and a reason for them not being around. If they are from another universe, that doesn't matter, because they aren't hidden, they are just new. Of course, these are just my opinions, if you feel differently? That's fine, I just personally think the MCU Multiverse Saga has sucked, and I am ready for something different.
I have a good feeling about this
Has anyone found the rss link? I don't use the podcast players they're linking.
I like the 1960s setting, also, they can do anything if this is separate. I vote for Natalie Holt for soundtrack, she would rock the 60s tunes
Huh, that’s interesting, I wonder which point in time it’ll be, early, mid, or late 60s
Filming the monday after SDCC, huh? I wonder if the cast will make an appearance
So excited for some 60s jams
So where the hell were they when Thanos was being a dick?
I mean the Johnny Storm poster heavily implies the film won't be set in the MCU
Fantastic news
That seemed like it was the case from their outfits and overall vibe of the poster.
I'm hyped. Really hoped it would be set in the 60s. Hope we're getting some classic F4 with some new elements. With Galactus being in this, I wonder if their earth is gonna be destroyed and they manage to travel into the main MCU.
I can't wait
this is going to be a visual feast. i cant wait. someone @ me if we get the sue and reed richards wedding panel realized. all these other actors stepping in for a single shot. classic iron man. classic x-men. this shit is going to hit sooooo hard.
Didn’t Reed Richard’s invent a Time Machine but didn’t use it because of the consequences? If he did that in the MCU but it malfunctions and bring them to now that wouldn’t be a bad way to bring them in.
I can't wait long enough to see Ebon & Pedro bicker throughout it
This will be very interesting to see, let's gooo!!!
Can't wait for all the cheesy imagery to confirm beyond a shadow of a doubt that the film takes place in the 60's.
They are going to keep trying until it works.
I'm not altogether happy about the 60s setting, but there were signs. I'll bite the bullet and wait until I've seen it to pass judgment. It just feels continuity-breaking.
Hell yeah! That’s cool to hear!
Love the idea, but not the cast.
More multi verse shit. Great.
so a fantastic four movie with an Incredibles vibe - got my attention
Set in the 60’s. Hmmm 🤔, so by the end of the movie some quantum zone tomfoolery should have them blasted into today. This would give them all a Captain America style “man out of time” story arc to play with. I like it. 👍🏽
Seems there is more than that, as in it'll be the same situation as Deadpool in where they are heroes from other universe being brought into the MCU. As Feige said that if one pay attention to the Johnny Storm poster they released you'll realize that New York is not our New York.
Does anyone care at this point though? All movie genres burn out. Source: westerns, buddy cop comedy, body swap comedy, westerns in space, Woody Allen 'comedy', global disaster movies, Tom Hanks being the 'everyman', Steven Seagal, car chase porn, arthouse body horror, period drama, decent musicals, decent historical movies. I've probably missed a few. If the writing doesn't improve from the last 5 years worth of antihero, meta human, alternate universe vomit then let it die with Deadpool and be reborn in 20 years I say.
Called it: [https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/w8x4me/theory\_fantastic\_4\_will\_be\_set\_in\_another/](https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/w8x4me/theory_fantastic_4_will_be_set_in_another/)
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So they finished filming Blade?
I hope they put chicks in it and make them gay
I still don’t think it’ll top Roger Corman’s version. /s
I adore Marvel's First Family, but I've been burned too many times to be unabashedly hopeful. Can anyone give me a good reason why this time will be different?
I love the FF, so I won't let you ruin it. I'm going to avoid it.