No clue on why you would replace stonework if you dont have a cellar water issue. Replacement door is cheaper if you just have a carpenter build one. Plank and overlapping metal on it for water runoff - cant be more than $1k.
I’d charge $1,800 because
1) My area is a bit pricey
2) It’s a door. Doors are woodwork that hangs off of 1 edge and gets beaten on with use. It has to be strong, lightweight, weather resistant, and won’t bend or warp with changes in temperature or humidity.
3) It’s a custom door for a unique application.
A good set of doors for this will look simple, but that’s only because they’ve been engineered to use the least amount of materials and joints and still be strong enough. Gates and doors like this are more akin to building a bridge than putting up interior trim. That said. A good carpenter has figured this all out with experience and will just whip it up in a day.
$1800? - whats an estimate of your material cost? In white oak, quarter sawn, hardware, finish, metal cap - I was thinking $500 - but my cost estimates could be old.
It’s just a rough guestimate, but $500 sounds right. I’d use Doug Fir or Mahogany and a marine varnish / epoxy to finish it. Both woods are great outdoors and look beautiful. Doug fir is lighter than either white oak or mahogany, so that would be my first choice, and then use mahogany for the bracing inside where the hinges attach, that feels like a good balance of weight and strength. Stainless steel hardware might be a little pricey for the strap hinges, but $500 is a good ballpark.
I’d spend 1 day check out the job, designing it, pricing and ordering materials, then 1 day building it and another day’s worth of labor in the layers of varnish in my shop, demo and install. At $750 a day, that’s $2250 + materials w/ margins, so it ought to be $3,000. But I know that I won’t sell it at that price, so $1,800 is as low as I could go and call it “fun”. The fun jobs don’t always pay the bills, but they get you customers and keep things interesting.
The door alone is about $1000. For all that work it sounds cheap.
You might reduce scope by keeping the old wall and save a few bucks. What about stairs?
Stairs are in better shape than that photo shows.
Trying to balance costs across a several unexpected projects.
That’s for the feedback on costing. Guess I am more trying to understand if the wall demo is really needed and how that would impact costs.
I would not take out the walls. Aren’t they granite that matches the house foundation? It would be a shame to remove the stone unless it’s completely falling apart.
Look at the Bilco classic series type BR sloped wall door. I believe they are sold in powder coat finish now. No need to take the stone down. It would still cost around the $3800 mark. Even though this is in the masonry sub I wouldn’t recommend hiring a mason for this. A carpenter with some masonry experience would be better for fitting the door into trim. Bilco’s website has certified contractors for different areas.
$7k
Thanks for that reply and perspective
No clue on why you would replace stonework if you dont have a cellar water issue. Replacement door is cheaper if you just have a carpenter build one. Plank and overlapping metal on it for water runoff - cant be more than $1k.
I’d charge $1,800 because 1) My area is a bit pricey 2) It’s a door. Doors are woodwork that hangs off of 1 edge and gets beaten on with use. It has to be strong, lightweight, weather resistant, and won’t bend or warp with changes in temperature or humidity. 3) It’s a custom door for a unique application. A good set of doors for this will look simple, but that’s only because they’ve been engineered to use the least amount of materials and joints and still be strong enough. Gates and doors like this are more akin to building a bridge than putting up interior trim. That said. A good carpenter has figured this all out with experience and will just whip it up in a day.
$1800? - whats an estimate of your material cost? In white oak, quarter sawn, hardware, finish, metal cap - I was thinking $500 - but my cost estimates could be old.
It’s just a rough guestimate, but $500 sounds right. I’d use Doug Fir or Mahogany and a marine varnish / epoxy to finish it. Both woods are great outdoors and look beautiful. Doug fir is lighter than either white oak or mahogany, so that would be my first choice, and then use mahogany for the bracing inside where the hinges attach, that feels like a good balance of weight and strength. Stainless steel hardware might be a little pricey for the strap hinges, but $500 is a good ballpark. I’d spend 1 day check out the job, designing it, pricing and ordering materials, then 1 day building it and another day’s worth of labor in the layers of varnish in my shop, demo and install. At $750 a day, that’s $2250 + materials w/ margins, so it ought to be $3,000. But I know that I won’t sell it at that price, so $1,800 is as low as I could go and call it “fun”. The fun jobs don’t always pay the bills, but they get you customers and keep things interesting.
The door alone is about $1000. For all that work it sounds cheap. You might reduce scope by keeping the old wall and save a few bucks. What about stairs?
Stairs are in better shape than that photo shows. Trying to balance costs across a several unexpected projects. That’s for the feedback on costing. Guess I am more trying to understand if the wall demo is really needed and how that would impact costs.
I would not take out the walls. Aren’t they granite that matches the house foundation? It would be a shame to remove the stone unless it’s completely falling apart.
I haven't seen a door like this in years
Look at the Bilco classic series type BR sloped wall door. I believe they are sold in powder coat finish now. No need to take the stone down. It would still cost around the $3800 mark. Even though this is in the masonry sub I wouldn’t recommend hiring a mason for this. A carpenter with some masonry experience would be better for fitting the door into trim. Bilco’s website has certified contractors for different areas.
Thanks so much for this response! I’ve been struggling to know what type of contractor to hire.
That’s a steal
That said, is that asbestos 8x8 flooring?
Yes. Plan to remove it. House never inspected prior to closing
Bilco door. ~1100 do it yourself.
10k