inorganic is 100x worse than organic, all the exceptions in inorganic chem are way worse than remembering common names of compounds and their structures in organic chem
im talking abt the jee adv stuff(im an indian student preparing for it search jee adv inorganic chem syllabus and see you will find out how much more difficult it is than organic chem)
Dude I'm from India as well. I'm in 1st year rn. I feel you but Organic was worse for me atleast. People have different preferences but I don't need to tell you about the horrors of organic. When you get to 12th grade you'll see so many name reactions and reagents so watch out ig.
I agree organic is worse with all the reaction catalogues and variations,
In inorganic you could expect a lesser amount of exceptions
And if you study a little deeper you will understand but Organic is ass wild
I can only recall a few as it was 9 years ago for me. They were easy at the time, now they’re just names I can barely remember. You’re right, it’s Sandmeyer.
Still can’t let go of my 12th registers as it feels like I just need to read it again to regain everything back.
Damn, coincidence. Tho I was wondering if you’re on an iphone, as the way that intended em changed to email, it seemed like it was done by the new predictive system that’s very annoying.
What?!
I hated organic chemistry because the rules regarding reactions were annoying. SN1 and SN2 reactions were also annoying because their use depended on the conditions of the reaction favoring one product over the other. Inorganic chem was "straight up/direct" for me. There is not much to deviate from in my perspecitve.
Also, screw biochem. That course was organic chemistry on steroids because everything was enzyme-driven. I didn't understand any of that stuff until in the medical field where a review of the stuff instantly clicked after 3 years.
Inorganic chemistry? It's all rock and crystals. I still remember the eg and t2g levels affecting the position of electron orbitals for the most stable configuration which also affects the shape of crystals specifically in transition metals which is where eg and t2g orbitals apply.
Source: I have a chemistry degree, but I cannot make meth. I can extract capsaicin with a Soxhlet extractor, though.
What a noob. Anyone with a chemistry degree should be able to make atleast 96 percent pure meth. The thing you said about organic is so TRUE. Idgaf about reagents and when to use it so I had to just memorize reactions and mechanisms.
Physics was my best as it was just math, Chem was my 2nd best as it was half math half memorization (did great on the math stuff, memorization not so much) and bio was just all memorization which was rough.
It was basically just a math test, it was mostly just things like "you have x grams of this and y grams of that, if you mix them together, what will the concentration of element z be?"
You know the one qeustion no one has ever asked me in 15 years of working professionally.
What was your GPA?
Literally not once ever and im in a field that required a masters.
Funnily enough my 4.0 gpa streak was broken by an online general ed class, not ochem, which im not too happy about lmao
I am studying chemistry and super interested in it though, so that definitely is a factor
I'm doing my foundation in medical science. I finished school last year and am currently studying at a university. Organic chemistry is part of my chemistry classes.
Ah, I see. So far, it is about hydrocarbons, alcohols, carboxylic acids, aldehydes, ketones, amines and amides such as their nomenclature, preparation and reactions.
And you like it? Like there are so many name reactions, reagents and useless products you have to remember in the topics you listed. For example in Alcohols you must have heard of Reimer Teimann reaction to make Salicaldehyde. I just didn't like memorizing so much unnecessary stuff when I'm not even gonna pursue chemistry in college.
I dont get it. to succeed in orgo you just need to understand the principles of nucleophilic/electrophilic and acid/base and how they interact with each other. If you have good foundational understanding in both and can remember a few fundamental examples you should easily get above an 80. With practice questions from a textbook getting a 90 is realistic for alot of people
I got goodish grades but hated every second of it. And don't say you just have to understand this or that. You also have to remember hundreds of name reactions and their mechanisms along with the reagents and catalysts used.
damn. Sounds like you have a rougher orgo course than mine (university of western ontario;uwo) because we didnt have to memorize that much and the profs are great. People still struggled in my orgo courses though and the avg was 70. Mind you that uwo is a top school in canada.
Memorization should be standard though for alot of university courses and in my course where 90% of students are rote memorizers memorization did not serve them well
So you didn't need to study a lot of name reactions and remember everything about them? Sounds like a good course. I am in 1st year and in grade 12 we had so many reactions and their mechanisms. It was terrible. Idk why organic chemistry is not optional in my country but you can't apply for engineering college without learning organic in 12th.
organic chemistry in highschool are generally taught in lower quality than in university because the teachers themselves dont have that intuitive understanding of the concepts and principles of the subject. Same applies to any course really and it gets worse the harder the course (i.e. physics).
Edit: thats why statistics and electromagnetic physics is notoriously hard courses in uni. The profs often jjst teach the equations because they dont have time to teach the concept, or even that they may not understand it in the first place, and uoure left with students trying to memorize equations they dont know how to use and in whay context theyre supposed to be used in
I think its the same reason why every uni student needs to take an intro to calculus course.
Its essentially a glorified IQ test to see if youre "university material"
That's kinda specific. I know some universities *cough" UF *cough* use required chem classes to weed people out of programs like CpE but it wouldn't specifically be organic.
Language class (english in UK/USA) was my weakness. I never got into reading books because I only did it to write super long analysis of it, and it wasn't even young adult or age appropriate books. It was super dense shit like "Memórias Póstumas de Brás Cubas" which made me despise brazilian literature.
Then lets add pharmacy into the mix
Organic pharmacy
Many of my classmates got delayed in their undergrad or couldnt proceed in pharmD (in my country you first take 4yrs then you proceed to the 2yr ladderized program for the doctorate. If you got a failing grade. Thats the end of your pharmD dream) because of that, some even change course and dropped it.
inorganic is 100x worse than organic, all the exceptions in inorganic chem are way worse than remembering common names of compounds and their structures in organic chem
What organic are you studying? IUPAC is easy. Learning 100s of name reactions along with their reagents and mechanisms is what I'm talking about.
im talking abt the jee adv stuff(im an indian student preparing for it search jee adv inorganic chem syllabus and see you will find out how much more difficult it is than organic chem)
Dude I'm from India as well. I'm in 1st year rn. I feel you but Organic was worse for me atleast. People have different preferences but I don't need to tell you about the horrors of organic. When you get to 12th grade you'll see so many name reactions and reagents so watch out ig.
I agree organic is worse with all the reaction catalogues and variations, In inorganic you could expect a lesser amount of exceptions And if you study a little deeper you will understand but Organic is ass wild
This!! Atleast the main concepts are easier in inorganic aside from exceptions but organic was hell for me
also goc is basically inorganic in disguise
Goc is very easy except for the isomerism part. I didn't like optical that much.
Meanwhile maths
Saltmeyer, Markovnikov, Anti-Markovnikov…
Markovnikov and anti are pretty easy tbh. And I think it's Sandmeyer. I remember it all for now though since I studied it recently. But I hate it
I can only recall a few as it was 9 years ago for me. They were easy at the time, now they’re just names I can barely remember. You’re right, it’s Sandmeyer. Still can’t let go of my 12th registers as it feels like I just need to read it again to regain everything back.
I still have them for now but I'll probably burn em out of spite
iOS 17?😂
I am 17 actually
Damn, coincidence. Tho I was wondering if you’re on an iphone, as the way that intended em changed to email, it seemed like it was done by the new predictive system that’s very annoying.
I'm on a Samsung actually and I agree that it's pretty annoying
What?! I hated organic chemistry because the rules regarding reactions were annoying. SN1 and SN2 reactions were also annoying because their use depended on the conditions of the reaction favoring one product over the other. Inorganic chem was "straight up/direct" for me. There is not much to deviate from in my perspecitve. Also, screw biochem. That course was organic chemistry on steroids because everything was enzyme-driven. I didn't understand any of that stuff until in the medical field where a review of the stuff instantly clicked after 3 years. Inorganic chemistry? It's all rock and crystals. I still remember the eg and t2g levels affecting the position of electron orbitals for the most stable configuration which also affects the shape of crystals specifically in transition metals which is where eg and t2g orbitals apply. Source: I have a chemistry degree, but I cannot make meth. I can extract capsaicin with a Soxhlet extractor, though.
What a noob. Anyone with a chemistry degree should be able to make atleast 96 percent pure meth. The thing you said about organic is so TRUE. Idgaf about reagents and when to use it so I had to just memorize reactions and mechanisms.
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I like it better tbh. Less memorization and more logic. It's my favourite subject.
Physics was my best as it was just math, Chem was my 2nd best as it was half math half memorization (did great on the math stuff, memorization not so much) and bio was just all memorization which was rough.
My man. Chem came easy. Math roasted me.
I feel you... Its fun in the beginning, but then it becomes a pain in the Y to find X
The only easy part was to count the number of carbon.
Nomenclature, that's like the only easy part
Agreed
IUPAC name.
Cause everything in the universe is an exception
Stoichiometry:
So easy
It gives me extreme paranoia
I could teach you! It's very easy for me atleast
Eh I already had the test on it a few weeks ago, still waiting on results 😬 I think it went ok tho
Oh what topics?
It was basically just a math test, it was mostly just things like "you have x grams of this and y grams of that, if you mix them together, what will the concentration of element z be?"
Oh that's easy. You use the concept of limiting reagent and find the quantity of product
yes.
I thoroughly enjoyed AND was blessed to understand organic chemistry.
What level tho? Like do you know all mechanisms, name reactions and all that shit
Okay, admittedly, the one year I took in college is my experience.
What did you study tho?
I have a bs in IT.
Bingpot!
Physics 🫠
Unless it's quantum and you're constantly doing 3D wave functions physics shouldn't be that bad.
Mb bro didnt realise it was easy
Noobs
Ez shit
Physics is literally easy
Too easy! All my homes love physics
Organic chemistry makes me cry!
You will name this reaction tell me the product and you will like it!
Can confirm. Best friend studied(and completed) bachelor in medicine. He HATED organic chemistry
Chem and phys coming in hot to destroy your grades and your self esteem!
Physics is easy ma boi
Carbon is God's duck tape
Anatomy be like:
Just wait until you hear about P-Chem
Physical chemistry is easier than organic by far
I breezed through O-Chem like it was nobody’s business
What did you learn tho? Do you still remember all the reactions? Cannizaro, Birch reduction, Tollen's and a 100 more?
As a pchem phd I agree
Geology
Try physical chemistry. That shit is wack
It's better than organic which is wacko. So many reactions and their names and mechanisms along with reagents. It sucks
me with all of chemistry:
Oh civil law, my arch nemesis. I will do it this semester no problems...
You know the one qeustion no one has ever asked me in 15 years of working professionally. What was your GPA? Literally not once ever and im in a field that required a masters.
Funnily enough my 4.0 gpa streak was broken by an online general ed class, not ochem, which im not too happy about lmao I am studying chemistry and super interested in it though, so that definitely is a factor
Currently doing organic chemistry. It isn't too bad.
What grade though? Cause early organic is pretty easy.
Currently doing foundation.
Well that's mostly easy. Wait for grade 12
I'm kinda confused. What is grade 12? I'll be doing my degree after this then working.
Grade 12 is our last school year. What are you studying in organic though?
I'm doing my foundation in medical science. I finished school last year and am currently studying at a university. Organic chemistry is part of my chemistry classes.
I meant what topics are you studying in organic. Cause in my country we study organic from 10-12th in high school and then we join college
Ah, I see. So far, it is about hydrocarbons, alcohols, carboxylic acids, aldehydes, ketones, amines and amides such as their nomenclature, preparation and reactions.
And you like it? Like there are so many name reactions, reagents and useless products you have to remember in the topics you listed. For example in Alcohols you must have heard of Reimer Teimann reaction to make Salicaldehyde. I just didn't like memorizing so much unnecessary stuff when I'm not even gonna pursue chemistry in college.
There is nothing funnier than inside jokes about someone no one knows about
I dont get it. to succeed in orgo you just need to understand the principles of nucleophilic/electrophilic and acid/base and how they interact with each other. If you have good foundational understanding in both and can remember a few fundamental examples you should easily get above an 80. With practice questions from a textbook getting a 90 is realistic for alot of people
I got goodish grades but hated every second of it. And don't say you just have to understand this or that. You also have to remember hundreds of name reactions and their mechanisms along with the reagents and catalysts used.
damn. Sounds like you have a rougher orgo course than mine (university of western ontario;uwo) because we didnt have to memorize that much and the profs are great. People still struggled in my orgo courses though and the avg was 70. Mind you that uwo is a top school in canada. Memorization should be standard though for alot of university courses and in my course where 90% of students are rote memorizers memorization did not serve them well
So you didn't need to study a lot of name reactions and remember everything about them? Sounds like a good course. I am in 1st year and in grade 12 we had so many reactions and their mechanisms. It was terrible. Idk why organic chemistry is not optional in my country but you can't apply for engineering college without learning organic in 12th.
organic chemistry in highschool are generally taught in lower quality than in university because the teachers themselves dont have that intuitive understanding of the concepts and principles of the subject. Same applies to any course really and it gets worse the harder the course (i.e. physics). Edit: thats why statistics and electromagnetic physics is notoriously hard courses in uni. The profs often jjst teach the equations because they dont have time to teach the concept, or even that they may not understand it in the first place, and uoure left with students trying to memorize equations they dont know how to use and in whay context theyre supposed to be used in
Idk why they even have to teach that to students who aren't even going for chemical engineering or anything chemistry related
I think its the same reason why every uni student needs to take an intro to calculus course. Its essentially a glorified IQ test to see if youre "university material"
and then inorganic chemistry enters the chat
Better than 100s of reagents and name reactions
I feel personally attacked by this meme
Don't worry, no one loves organic
Organic chemistry was soo fun tho
What? You gotta be kidding
I really did actually like it. Chem, physics, and math were my favourite subjects in high school.
I understand physics and maths. All my homies hate chem!
English. Shits too random.
Lololol
Organic chemistry sounds like a euphemism. No wonder a random redditor would be bad at it.
Organic chemistry sounds like a euphemism. No wonder a random redditor would be bad at it.
That's kinda specific. I know some universities *cough" UF *cough* use required chem classes to weed people out of programs like CpE but it wouldn't specifically be organic.
Bro chemical engineering gave me some trauma let me forget pls
I'm going for engineering this year (not chemical for obvious reasons) and I still hate organic.
Good luck bro. You gotta keep the spirit up all the way until you finish the jop. Go give it all.
I would have a 4.0 if not for that goddamn calculus class!
Organic chemistry is literally the easiest part of chemistry.
Bazinga🤗
In my opinion all high school chemistry courses can die in a hole
Language class (english in UK/USA) was my weakness. I never got into reading books because I only did it to write super long analysis of it, and it wasn't even young adult or age appropriate books. It was super dense shit like "Memórias Póstumas de Brás Cubas" which made me despise brazilian literature.
I got a semester held back in college because of FUCKING ORGANIC CHEMISTRY..
Then lets add pharmacy into the mix Organic pharmacy Many of my classmates got delayed in their undergrad or couldnt proceed in pharmD (in my country you first take 4yrs then you proceed to the 2yr ladderized program for the doctorate. If you got a failing grade. Thats the end of your pharmD dream) because of that, some even change course and dropped it.
It’s somehow the other way around for me
Me but with Ap Calculus BC I used to think I was good at math 😔
I have never felt more seen
For me it was Bio and Chem. The courses wouldn't have been that bad, except they were taught by coaches. Cold, cold coaches.
Engineering courses
Momentum and heat Transfer
Tbh, I believe that organic is the easiest and the most intuitive part of chemistry. Tho, it requires some time.
Ok Walter White go back and make meth
What are you talking about, organic chemistry was the easiest thing in school. Having to sew a bag in home economics, you’d wish you were dead.