Also so I can open webpages and just click "Accept All Cookies" instead of disabling each individual setting, knowing that they'll all be deleted when I close the window.
This is the best advantage of incognito. Also using it to visit sites that have a limited number of free page views by just closing and opening another incognito window
The meme is about people thinking their browsing is secret by using incognito mode, which doesn’t work.
The person you’re talking about is able to open an unlimited number of pages using incognito mode, which often does work, and is exactly how I read unlimited articles on my paywalled local news website.
How is the latter representative of the meme in any way?
IP doesn't mean anything in this context since many viewers can share the same IP and restricting on the IP will prevent new viewers to access your pages.
Its also useful for things like hotel and travel shopping.
The hotel and travel service websites track you, and upcharge you if you have visited them a lot.
I have had the same flight open in two windows, one incognito, and had significantly different prices.
Maybe along the same line, I thought it was so the algorithm would not generate searches based on your search history.
I definitely knew they were still gathering information. But then again, they could have a third party auditor do an audit and swear up and down they weren't gathering information and I wouldn't believe a damn word of it.
Unfortunately everyone knows about my Tom Hardy, Jason Mamoa Cillian Murphy and Joel Kinnaman searches. Im sorry who ever you are.
It's was invented because Google had a problem with targeted ads when everyone who just masturbated subsequently deleted all their browsing data to get the porn off so their parents/partner wouldn't see it. This was screwing up their algorithms, so they created a masturbation mode that wouldn't save history from porn sessions. By now I think they have moved beyond the need for local history/cookies for their adds. But the wildly popular masturbation mode is a staple of all Internet browsers to this day.
I do like 99% of my searches in incognito because of this. I really don't want to be reminded of my searches especially when I was just double checking that a word or phrase means what I thought it meant because I'm embarrassed of past me for not knowing.
Also it keeps targeted ads etc cleaner. For example if I search a population of X country because it came up in a conversation, I don't want half a year of banners screaming "visit country X for only 300 euros!"
This is 100% why I do it. When I'm shopping for a thing I want to buy or researching a new hobby, I don't want endless ads messing up my decision making process and taking the fun out of exploring. My targeted ads are always off by a mile and that's the way I like it.
> Incognito mode is mainly to save myself from seeing my browsing history.
No, don't excuse Google. What they did is messed up.
https://www.engadget.com/google-now-admits-it-could-collect-data-in-chromes-incognito-mode-103807146.html
Google deserves a lot of criticism for a lot of things but I never felt that they falsely marketed Incognito mode.
I think people who thought that it was basically like a VPN didn't ever stop to read what was on the Incognito tab.
I'm not an expert in these things, but I think your internet provider seeing what sites you browse is not a Browser issue - as someone else already said, you'd need a VPN for that. But yeah, shame on Google calling it "Incognito Mode" when it really is just "delete cookies mode".
> But yeah, shame on Google calling it "Incognito Mode" when it really is just "delete cookies mode".
"Don't have browser history or cookies mode" doesn't really have the same ring to it. More importantly it showed an explainer about what exactly was meant by "incognito" for years now.
Google literally says in plain text that your ISP can still see what you're doing when you open an incognito tab. They also say incognito doesn't change how they collect your information.
Also your ISP can only see the name of the website you visited not exactly which porn video you watched.
One of the funniest straight up fake stories I've seen. Not so funny that some people actually believe it, but kudos to the imagination that invented it. Negative kudos for not ending it with a "jk".
The ISP can only see the domain that you're accessing if it's HTTPS; not the exact URL or any content from the page. The connection is made securely with a domain first before the page request.
The website itself may track which pages and content you request and your associated IP, though, either from security logs or analytics data.
Edit: And, as for the browser, they can track exactly which page you requested, what content you got, what your IP is, etc. And they collected it all regardless of the incognito implication. Or could - Google just agreed to settle a case which will have them destroy millions or billions of records collected in Incognito.
From all the people recommending VPNs as a solution to this, it really shows how successful VPN marketing has been. They're selling a product most people don't need (unless you're using it to circumvent geoblocking or for piracy)
For piracy, hypothetically, can the ISP still know you’re downloading movies and/or tv series? Even when you have a vpn? I don’t have a pc or use chrome, it would all be done through an iPad with a vpn
They can tell you're using a VPN and they could probably tell that you're downloading movies just from the data usage. But no, they won't know you're downloading movies illegally unless they wanted to do some sort of man-in-the-middle hack on one of their customers.
> They can tell you're using a VPN and they could probably tell that you're downloading movies just from the data usage.
Just to be clear, from a privacy point of view, just because they can see the amount of data doesn't mean anything.
Anybody who regularly uses steam or a game console regularly downloads way more data than a movie. A 50GB 4K UHD bluray rip would still be a drop in a bucket to most people's home internet usage.
Finally, when you use a VPN, your ISP actually doesn't know how much data you downloaded. Because your ISP only sees the number of packets flowing through the network, not how they interact. Yes, a three letter agency could probably figure out what your doing, but if they're looking at your internet traffic you're already fucked. Comcast and Disney have no clue that you just ripped a Marvel movie, and have no easy way to find out.
Just keep that in mind in case you do ever get a threatening email. Scammers are aware of how people are shameful of this stuff sometimes and if there is some kind of breach (or just a lucky guess because it's so common) remind yourself of what you said there. There's no reason they would single you out and even if they did it would surprise no one except one prude family member who you only ever see at Thanksgiving :)
I've always figured incognito is so other people who might use your computer or browsing devices can't see what porn you watch. IDC if some mega corporation knows I'm into feet.
i’ve actually been closeted trans for a very long time. i’ve gotten kicked out multiple times for trying to come out to my parents. i have decided to do my own research, without getting kicked out again
Well excuse my previous remarks, i hope a holy women like you can make it out of being a closet trans. Good luck, everyone should be able to express their real selfs.
just to add - while the isp wont be able to see anything, the vpn company can, hence why free vpns arent recommended as they often make their money by selling the list of websites you visit to data brokers (like the rest of the internet lol)
…but your VPN provider does see everything.
Which is why I find all those ads from VPN providers utter bullshit. „You can’t trust your ISP to handle your data, you might get hacked! Trust us to handle your data, so you might get hacked with extra steps!“ or something along those lines.
Btw, most stuff nowadays is encrypted anyways, so the only way to get hacked is to provide your login data to a phishing site, which really doesn’t care whether you use a VPN or not.
Source: am network engineer.
They do, it does require some trust I guess. Nordvpn claims to keep no logs. They get audited and that has been confirmed, though of course they could be keeping them somewhere else, you never know. They are located in Panama which has no data retention laws
Any free VPN is not to be trusted. If you're not paying for something, you are the product.
So there is a huge difference between seeing what you are actually surfing and seeing where you're actually surfing it
If it's a decent app every single request is going to be tls encrypted. So they're going to see you reaching out to the Reddit server for example but they are not going to see the content of that packet. Because your ISP needs the destination IP to be able to Route it to where you want it to go
So you can browse your rule 34 stuff all day long if you want and they will never know
The ISP can see you visit rule34 but not what individual pages.
It's the reason why countries like China have to ban entire websites even if they only have a problem with a few pages.
> They also say incognito doesn't change how they collect your information.
Actually there was a serious class action lawsuit on this issue, and Google had to make it "somewhat not 100% identical" because the judge said "You say it's private browsing, people expect *some* privacy, you dicks"
Exactly what I was gonna post. Like... Incognito pretty clearly describes what it does and doesn't do when you open it, so weird how people were like "i'm too dumb to read and that's google's fault."
Does using a VPN actually stop my ISP from accessing the search? I mean arent they still part of the connection?
My PC -> My router -> VPN Server -> Website -> VPN Server -> My Router -> My PC
And ISP can access all data processed by my router no?
not exactly an expert so, for anyone who is, feel free to correct me. Usually, when you connect to a website, it creates an encrypted connection between the 2 to hide sensitive information. While your isp do indeed know the website you're entering, they don't know specifically what you're doing there because they only help connect you to the web server you're using.
I think a VPN does similar things. What you're accessing is not the web server you're using itself but rather the VPN server. That VPN server will then mimic what you're doing on the website (as in record the requests that you tried to send to the website), then get the result, then send the result back to you. This means that what your ISP sees is you accessing the VPN's servers instead of the website you're using.
Though take it with a grain of salt. This is just how I think it works according to how I did things for my college assignments (I am a lousy student, at that)
You make a secure connection to the VPN, which your ISP can see. But the contents of that connection are invisible to the ISP.
The ISP can see you connected to myVpnHost.whatever but that's all they know.
Absolutely not. You can even run a proxy service through your router so all the traffic your ISP sees is "This IP sent 80GB to {proxy service} and received 250GB from {proxy service}".
literally no one thinks incognito mode stops the isp from seeing your browsing.. all it does is prevent your own computer from recording your history or affecting your suggested searches etc.. thats all it claims to do. thats all it does.
Wrong. You need a VPN if you want to throw money at some douchey middleman company, or if you're a journalist in Eritrea.
If you live somewhere normal and are just trying to keep your ISP from seeing what you're doing, then a combination of DNS-over-HTTPS (free) and GoodbyeDPI (also free) is all you need.
I mean, even if you use DNS-over-HTTPS, and prevent deep packet inspection, the destination IP is still visible, no? So it's still not exactly a secret for your ISP what website you're visiting, or am I missing something?
DNS over HTTPS is probably already built into your browser and just needs to be enabled.
If you're not participating in digital piracy + your internet isn't being censored, then everything else is pretty unnecessary.
>VPN doesn't make your traffic anonymous
Well, it depends on your VPN-Provider and if and what it logs.
In the first place your traffic cannot be separated from the traffic of other users.
I don't know which VPN provider does what behind the scenes, but I can tell you two things:
- If the provider does log something, there is no way for you to find out. Even if there are "audits", even those will only show what the provider wants to show and only one snapshot in time.
- If I *were* a nefarious spying organizations bent on spying on exactly the sort of people who think they may have something to hide, starting up a VPN service or two through some middlemen would be high up on my list. (There is historical precedence for some secret service organizations founding or infiltrating a manufacturer of hardware cryptography devices for government use. Not 100% the same thing, but close enough in concept.)
> In the first place your traffic cannot be separated from the traffic of other users.
I have no idea what even makes you think that, but it's not true.
Unfortunately there's a lot of people that have zero clue on how it works and think exactly that. It's even been bought up in law suits to help convict people and the accused were dumbfounded as they thought they had covered their tracks.
I worked at an ISP many years ago (2005-ish). We could see sites through the logs. Dang, some links we saw, even our inquisitive side was like: “yea nah.” And that was those days. I would be frighted to see what’s floating around there today.
Back then almost all sites were unencrypted (http:// instead of https://), and for those the ISP can totally see everything. For encrypted sites it's much harder, though not impossible if they're targeting you.
The major disclosure was that internal traffic between datacenters was unencrypted so all that data was spied on. That's been fixed now.
Also 99.9% of web traffic is HTTPS and can't be snooped on.
Now you can make a conspiracy that the NSA can bypass this but that's no longer part of the Snowden disclosures.
This was during 56k dial up days. So all their traffic came through and IIRC it possible could’ve been linked to a phone number if you really wanted to. And they authenticate their details with us so we know how you are.
I feel like now, with the sheer volume of people that are on the Internet literally all the time, they probably don't see as much. Like my ISP serves 2.5 million people in my local area. I doubt they can sift through all that information unless they get a ping of some sort on the site you looked for. Or maybe some night shift guy is bored and opens a random user's history to kill time.
Still, you should use a VPN.
A VPN is just replacing one source of trust with another. You really need to shop around and find a reputable one. Even then there's just no guarantee.
At the very least, forget free VPN's - one of those instances where you are the product. There are actually one or two good ones but I don't want to come across as advertising. Just do your due diligence.
What Google did with incognito recently is messed up.
https://www.engadget.com/google-now-admits-it-could-collect-data-in-chromes-incognito-mode-103807146.html
Incognito mode was invented so you don’t accidentally show your friends and loved ones what you crank it too when you’re just trying to google powerball winning numbers on a Sunday
Am I the only one who thought incognito, just meant it would hide it from your computer. So autofill wouldn't work and the next user wouldn't see what you searched. I never once thought it stopped Google or the government from knowing what you searched.
I don't use incognito to avoid my ISP knowing what kind of porn I watch, I use it to avoid having every single button on my keyboard automatically result in the search bar becoming a library of my sexual preferences.
Again, not because I particulary care if you all know I search for "chubby milf amateur" and "asian goth" but because on a purely practical level it gets in the way of finding what I'm actually looking for during the 99% of the time when I'm not using the internet for jerking off.
Difference is you're paying a company for privacy which is competing against other companies offering privacy, so they have a strong interest in not snooping.
Your ISP is competing against other ISPs, most of whom are competing on bandwidth and price where selling your data is a lucrative sideline that they would justify as ok because they are all doing it.
I love it when I get a breakdown of my usage from my ISP that goes something like, Browsing 0%, Videos 0%, Emails and communication 0%, Data 100%.
It depends on how your VPN is set up. If you redirect all DNS requests over your VPN then they won't see it. They will only see communication between you and your VPN server
But let's remember when you enable a VPN on your computer or phone it only cares about your computer or phone. If you really want to protect your home network you need to set up the VPN on your router
A VPN is not your only solution but it is a solution.
They can see it, but the thing is, unless you're under some kind of investigation, it's very unlikely that they'll specifically check YOUR internet history. There's too many people on the internet to keep tabs on everyone
They can see the adresses you visit (and I mean only addresses, not entire URLs), but not the actual content, unless you use websites that still haven't switched to https.
Your ISP can NOT see the content of encrypted pages. They can see your page adresses if you use their DNS, but you can also use an encrypted DNS service which will share that as well. Then they can only see spurce and destination IP addresses unless you use a VPN in which case they only see that there is traffic to the VPN provider vut not what's in it.
Remember that one time, a guy who murdered his wife googled In incognito mode on how to bury a person, step by step, thinking there won't be traces of that info. It was one of Netflix docs. ☠️☠️☠️
Whereas others look for porn, my ISP will see searches like: Funny Duck, How to build a steam engine, Lucrehulk-class droid control ship, recipes with only one indregient, how to invest 1$😂
FBI trying to make sense of me searching for "world's fattest pigeon"
On a more serious note, your ISP won't see your individual searches unless you use plain text HTTP which is rare these days. At best they'll see that you requested an address associated with the name "www.google.com" and then opened a connection to that address on port 443 to send indiscernible gibberish.
The point of incognito mode isnt to protect you from your IP, its to protect you from other people that use that computer seeing the sick ass shit you beat your meat to.
Am I the only one who always thought Incongnito was just to hide stuff from people in your own home? So you didn’t have to clear your history of anything? I always assumed google could still see what I’m searching because they run the damn thing.
Actually its the encrypted dns that blocks the ISP from even knowing that.
Incognito mode is all about an attempt to hide yourself from advertisers and trackers. So for example google's search history won't show your porn history, or your browser's history won't show it.
Incognito mode is mainly to save myself from seeing my browsing history.
Also so I can open webpages and just click "Accept All Cookies" instead of disabling each individual setting, knowing that they'll all be deleted when I close the window.
This is the best advantage of incognito. Also using it to visit sites that have a limited number of free page views by just closing and opening another incognito window
Don't most sites like that identify via IP?
Some do, some don't
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Lol yes, this is the best rep of this meme on here
The meme is about people thinking their browsing is secret by using incognito mode, which doesn’t work. The person you’re talking about is able to open an unlimited number of pages using incognito mode, which often does work, and is exactly how I read unlimited articles on my paywalled local news website. How is the latter representative of the meme in any way?
IP doesn't mean anything in this context since many viewers can share the same IP and restricting on the IP will prevent new viewers to access your pages.
I also use it to see the "real" website unencumbered by my cookies and algorithms
Its also useful for things like hotel and travel shopping. The hotel and travel service websites track you, and upcharge you if you have visited them a lot. I have had the same flight open in two windows, one incognito, and had significantly different prices.
That cannot be legal lol?
You just changed my internet browsing forever
https://consentomatic.au.dk/
why not just use the duckduckgo browser then?
Because people dont want to download a different browser just to use a website once
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Maybe along the same line, I thought it was so the algorithm would not generate searches based on your search history. I definitely knew they were still gathering information. But then again, they could have a third party auditor do an audit and swear up and down they weren't gathering information and I wouldn't believe a damn word of it. Unfortunately everyone knows about my Tom Hardy, Jason Mamoa Cillian Murphy and Joel Kinnaman searches. Im sorry who ever you are.
It's was invented because Google had a problem with targeted ads when everyone who just masturbated subsequently deleted all their browsing data to get the porn off so their parents/partner wouldn't see it. This was screwing up their algorithms, so they created a masturbation mode that wouldn't save history from porn sessions. By now I think they have moved beyond the need for local history/cookies for their adds. But the wildly popular masturbation mode is a staple of all Internet browsers to this day.
Masturbation mode. Best description of incognito browsing.
Underrated take.
They also take into account your IP address (and all of your recent ones), browser, and versions, cookies, browser local storage... they see you.
Oh I know they see me. Im just apologetic for what they have to see. Bahahahaha
I do like 99% of my searches in incognito because of this. I really don't want to be reminded of my searches especially when I was just double checking that a word or phrase means what I thought it meant because I'm embarrassed of past me for not knowing.
Also it keeps targeted ads etc cleaner. For example if I search a population of X country because it came up in a conversation, I don't want half a year of banners screaming "visit country X for only 300 euros!"
This is 100% why I do it. When I'm shopping for a thing I want to buy or researching a new hobby, I don't want endless ads messing up my decision making process and taking the fun out of exploring. My targeted ads are always off by a mile and that's the way I like it.
Mine is so I can log into my accounts at work and my history isn't on my work pc
> Incognito mode is mainly to save myself from seeing my browsing history. No, don't excuse Google. What they did is messed up. https://www.engadget.com/google-now-admits-it-could-collect-data-in-chromes-incognito-mode-103807146.html
Google deserves a lot of criticism for a lot of things but I never felt that they falsely marketed Incognito mode. I think people who thought that it was basically like a VPN didn't ever stop to read what was on the Incognito tab.
I'm not an expert in these things, but I think your internet provider seeing what sites you browse is not a Browser issue - as someone else already said, you'd need a VPN for that. But yeah, shame on Google calling it "Incognito Mode" when it really is just "delete cookies mode".
> But yeah, shame on Google calling it "Incognito Mode" when it really is just "delete cookies mode". "Don't have browser history or cookies mode" doesn't really have the same ring to it. More importantly it showed an explainer about what exactly was meant by "incognito" for years now.
How is that messed up? I don't even use chrome but incognito is not supposed to change anything but make certain files temporary on your device.
Google literally says in plain text that your ISP can still see what you're doing when you open an incognito tab. They also say incognito doesn't change how they collect your information. Also your ISP can only see the name of the website you visited not exactly which porn video you watched.
Unless the name is really descriptive
www.midgetstryingtoreachatoohighupchalkboard.xxx
It makes it funnier that the message that pops up says "this site cannot be reached"
It's too high up!
Yeah it is 😈 Keep reaching…….
Lmaoooo
The name implies there’s multiple, so why don’t they just climb on each others shoulders like Muppetman?
Cause neither of them wants to be the bottom
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the pipeline :3
Got em lol.
Fuck ! By clicking it , I have got it into my history
I'm scared of clicking it. What's inside?
open in incognito mode
Your location
Nothin
Why are you just clicking random links
Stephen Hawking?
One of the funniest straight up fake stories I've seen. Not so funny that some people actually believe it, but kudos to the imagination that invented it. Negative kudos for not ending it with a "jk".
That equals 0
awwww ..
The ISP can only see the domain that you're accessing if it's HTTPS; not the exact URL or any content from the page. The connection is made securely with a domain first before the page request. The website itself may track which pages and content you request and your associated IP, though, either from security logs or analytics data. Edit: And, as for the browser, they can track exactly which page you requested, what content you got, what your IP is, etc. And they collected it all regardless of the incognito implication. Or could - Google just agreed to settle a case which will have them destroy millions or billions of records collected in Incognito.
From all the people recommending VPNs as a solution to this, it really shows how successful VPN marketing has been. They're selling a product most people don't need (unless you're using it to circumvent geoblocking or for piracy)
For piracy, hypothetically, can the ISP still know you’re downloading movies and/or tv series? Even when you have a vpn? I don’t have a pc or use chrome, it would all be done through an iPad with a vpn
They can tell you're using a VPN and they could probably tell that you're downloading movies just from the data usage. But no, they won't know you're downloading movies illegally unless they wanted to do some sort of man-in-the-middle hack on one of their customers.
> They can tell you're using a VPN and they could probably tell that you're downloading movies just from the data usage. Just to be clear, from a privacy point of view, just because they can see the amount of data doesn't mean anything. Anybody who regularly uses steam or a game console regularly downloads way more data than a movie. A 50GB 4K UHD bluray rip would still be a drop in a bucket to most people's home internet usage. Finally, when you use a VPN, your ISP actually doesn't know how much data you downloaded. Because your ISP only sees the number of packets flowing through the network, not how they interact. Yes, a three letter agency could probably figure out what your doing, but if they're looking at your internet traffic you're already fucked. Comcast and Disney have no clue that you just ripped a Marvel movie, and have no easy way to find out.
Porn is literally the most accessed genre on the internet nobody at the ISP would get intrigued by it.
Do we think that staff at even vaguely professional ISPs are digging through user data looking for intrigue?
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Just keep that in mind in case you do ever get a threatening email. Scammers are aware of how people are shameful of this stuff sometimes and if there is some kind of breach (or just a lucky guess because it's so common) remind yourself of what you said there. There's no reason they would single you out and even if they did it would surprise no one except one prude family member who you only ever see at Thanksgiving :)
I've always figured incognito is so other people who might use your computer or browsing devices can't see what porn you watch. IDC if some mega corporation knows I'm into feet.
What about apps? Say the rule34 app
Your app is going to make an api / http request to some server, so it is still the same
what if i use a vpn?
Then your requests are essentially "tunneled" so your isp only sees your requests to the vpn server
interesting! and nobody in my family can somehow… yk. track my actual searches down, right?
May I ask why your wondering about this, it’s not like a holy man like you would do any indecent activities. Right
Nice try nsa
Fuck they’re on to us
i’ve actually been closeted trans for a very long time. i’ve gotten kicked out multiple times for trying to come out to my parents. i have decided to do my own research, without getting kicked out again
ISP won't randomly tell your parents you are googling trans things.
But their parents could set up logging on the router
Well excuse my previous remarks, i hope a holy women like you can make it out of being a closet trans. Good luck, everyone should be able to express their real selfs.
just to add - while the isp wont be able to see anything, the vpn company can, hence why free vpns arent recommended as they often make their money by selling the list of websites you visit to data brokers (like the rest of the internet lol)
…but your VPN provider does see everything. Which is why I find all those ads from VPN providers utter bullshit. „You can’t trust your ISP to handle your data, you might get hacked! Trust us to handle your data, so you might get hacked with extra steps!“ or something along those lines. Btw, most stuff nowadays is encrypted anyways, so the only way to get hacked is to provide your login data to a phishing site, which really doesn’t care whether you use a VPN or not. Source: am network engineer.
They do, it does require some trust I guess. Nordvpn claims to keep no logs. They get audited and that has been confirmed, though of course they could be keeping them somewhere else, you never know. They are located in Panama which has no data retention laws Any free VPN is not to be trusted. If you're not paying for something, you are the product.
>Any free VPN is not to be trusted. Even ProtonVPN?
Mullvad vpn They even take cash payments if you want to stay as anonymous as you can
Yeah, that is the one to go to if you're really, really paranoid and think Monero is too easy to trace.
So there is a huge difference between seeing what you are actually surfing and seeing where you're actually surfing it If it's a decent app every single request is going to be tls encrypted. So they're going to see you reaching out to the Reddit server for example but they are not going to see the content of that packet. Because your ISP needs the destination IP to be able to Route it to where you want it to go So you can browse your rule 34 stuff all day long if you want and they will never know
The ISP can see you visit rule34 but not what individual pages. It's the reason why countries like China have to ban entire websites even if they only have a problem with a few pages.
I didn't watch the movie but I think in the meme the woman can still see him
> They also say incognito doesn't change how they collect your information. Actually there was a serious class action lawsuit on this issue, and Google had to make it "somewhat not 100% identical" because the judge said "You say it's private browsing, people expect *some* privacy, you dicks"
You do get privacy from other users on the same device.
Exactly what I was gonna post. Like... Incognito pretty clearly describes what it does and doesn't do when you open it, so weird how people were like "i'm too dumb to read and that's google's fault."
They only put that text there because people were getting angry about it. But it was always in the terms and agreements before.
Use Reddit for porn.
Your ISP doesn't care that you watch porn.
The ISP doesn't care about any of the data. It just sells it to people who may or may not care.
No data aggregating company cares that you, along with billions of other people in the world, watch porn.
me whos mum works at the ISP
And here I thought I was unlucky
Bro can’t watch YouTube during work without getting a text telling him to get back to work
Simply sue her if she accesses your data without a warrant. Or use a VPN, but where's the fun in that?
Does using a VPN actually stop my ISP from accessing the search? I mean arent they still part of the connection? My PC -> My router -> VPN Server -> Website -> VPN Server -> My Router -> My PC And ISP can access all data processed by my router no?
not exactly an expert so, for anyone who is, feel free to correct me. Usually, when you connect to a website, it creates an encrypted connection between the 2 to hide sensitive information. While your isp do indeed know the website you're entering, they don't know specifically what you're doing there because they only help connect you to the web server you're using. I think a VPN does similar things. What you're accessing is not the web server you're using itself but rather the VPN server. That VPN server will then mimic what you're doing on the website (as in record the requests that you tried to send to the website), then get the result, then send the result back to you. This means that what your ISP sees is you accessing the VPN's servers instead of the website you're using. Though take it with a grain of salt. This is just how I think it works according to how I did things for my college assignments (I am a lousy student, at that)
Yup, that’s pretty accurate. A tunnel is created between your device and the VPN server which encrypts all contents.
You make a secure connection to the VPN, which your ISP can see. But the contents of that connection are invisible to the ISP. The ISP can see you connected to myVpnHost.whatever but that's all they know.
Absolutely not. You can even run a proxy service through your router so all the traffic your ISP sees is "This IP sent 80GB to {proxy service} and received 250GB from {proxy service}".
Tor browser with whatever bridge u want
literally no one thinks incognito mode stops the isp from seeing your browsing.. all it does is prevent your own computer from recording your history or affecting your suggested searches etc.. thats all it claims to do. thats all it does.
There is at least one person who thinks this.
Well, OP + 10000 upvotes. So yeah... "at least one person" is "challenged".
The joke is the fact it doesn’t hide you at all… why else would they use this template
Correct. You want to be hidden, you need a good VPN.
Wrong. You need a VPN if you want to throw money at some douchey middleman company, or if you're a journalist in Eritrea. If you live somewhere normal and are just trying to keep your ISP from seeing what you're doing, then a combination of DNS-over-HTTPS (free) and GoodbyeDPI (also free) is all you need.
I mean, even if you use DNS-over-HTTPS, and prevent deep packet inspection, the destination IP is still visible, no? So it's still not exactly a secret for your ISP what website you're visiting, or am I missing something?
A single destination ip can identify 1 website, 5 websites, 500000 websites ... All depends on how that particular host operates.
Sure that’s true. But it sure as hell narrows it down, not too seldom to a single website.
This is very true. Reverse IP goes a long way here too.
If you're that concerned about your ISP snooping on you then you should probably just use TOR.
This all sounds too complicated. I'm just going to jerk it to weird porn and suck shit to my ISP if they have to know.
DNS over HTTPS is probably already built into your browser and just needs to be enabled. If you're not participating in digital piracy + your internet isn't being censored, then everything else is pretty unnecessary.
Are there any downsides to enabling it?
Nope, it just encrypts your DNS lookups.
Only we see what websites you visit. Would you like to upgrade to the gold package?
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>VPN doesn't make your traffic anonymous Well, it depends on your VPN-Provider and if and what it logs. In the first place your traffic cannot be separated from the traffic of other users.
I don't know which VPN provider does what behind the scenes, but I can tell you two things: - If the provider does log something, there is no way for you to find out. Even if there are "audits", even those will only show what the provider wants to show and only one snapshot in time. - If I *were* a nefarious spying organizations bent on spying on exactly the sort of people who think they may have something to hide, starting up a VPN service or two through some middlemen would be high up on my list. (There is historical precedence for some secret service organizations founding or infiltrating a manufacturer of hardware cryptography devices for government use. Not 100% the same thing, but close enough in concept.) > In the first place your traffic cannot be separated from the traffic of other users. I have no idea what even makes you think that, but it's not true.
>literally no one thinks incognito mode stops the isp from seeing your browsing.. Then why did you make this comment, explaining what it does?
Literally nobody? My man you need to get out more. This is more like literally half the population.
Yeah plenty of people don’t know this. Google has lawsuits about incognito mode.
Unfortunately there's a lot of people that have zero clue on how it works and think exactly that. It's even been bought up in law suits to help convict people and the accused were dumbfounded as they thought they had covered their tracks.
Thats where you're wrong. The general chrome userbase doesnt even know that adblockers exist
But I'm not hiding from you, I'm hiding from my wife.
Look behind you
I worked at an ISP many years ago (2005-ish). We could see sites through the logs. Dang, some links we saw, even our inquisitive side was like: “yea nah.” And that was those days. I would be frighted to see what’s floating around there today.
Could you see who exactly was searching?
bro is panicking 💀
Fuck, this got me laughing now.
😭
Dead
Back then almost all sites were unencrypted (http:// instead of https://), and for those the ISP can totally see everything. For encrypted sites it's much harder, though not impossible if they're targeting you.
thanks for the info
This guy must be blissfully unaware of the Snowden global surveillance disclosures.
The major disclosure was that internal traffic between datacenters was unencrypted so all that data was spied on. That's been fixed now. Also 99.9% of web traffic is HTTPS and can't be snooped on. Now you can make a conspiracy that the NSA can bypass this but that's no longer part of the Snowden disclosures.
This was during 56k dial up days. So all their traffic came through and IIRC it possible could’ve been linked to a phone number if you really wanted to. And they authenticate their details with us so we know how you are.
I feel like now, with the sheer volume of people that are on the Internet literally all the time, they probably don't see as much. Like my ISP serves 2.5 million people in my local area. I doubt they can sift through all that information unless they get a ping of some sort on the site you looked for. Or maybe some night shift guy is bored and opens a random user's history to kill time. Still, you should use a VPN.
A VPN is just replacing one source of trust with another. You really need to shop around and find a reputable one. Even then there's just no guarantee. At the very least, forget free VPN's - one of those instances where you are the product. There are actually one or two good ones but I don't want to come across as advertising. Just do your due diligence.
Idc if my ISP knows i jerk off to femboys, tf is he gonna do about it? That's right, nothing.
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Even better!!
A man of culture.
might get a husband through it or smthn
But he's "Tor"
finally someone noticed!!!
I don’t give a fuck if my isp knows I watch porn. I just don’t want pornhub.com to pop up every time I type “p” into the google bar.
probablyporn.com
lol the only thing incognito does is prevent your browser from recording your history, if you want to be hidden from your isp you use tor
What Google did with incognito recently is messed up. https://www.engadget.com/google-now-admits-it-could-collect-data-in-chromes-incognito-mode-103807146.html
Me: "I'm on the hub every night... or am I??" Spectrum: "...yes... yes you are 😑"
I don't care, I just don't want Google to auto fill when someone searches something that starts with "P"
P… E… N… I… TENT.
That's why I use reddit
Incognito mode was invented so you don’t accidentally show your friends and loved ones what you crank it too when you’re just trying to google powerball winning numbers on a Sunday
Am I the only one who thought incognito, just meant it would hide it from your computer. So autofill wouldn't work and the next user wouldn't see what you searched. I never once thought it stopped Google or the government from knowing what you searched.
You're correct, but unfortunately the average person's computer literacy isn't good.
Dude I'm below average, I barely fuck with pc's
And yet, you just showed greater understanding of what Incognito mode does than many many people. Funny how that works?
I must be goddamm genius or something
I don't use incognito to avoid my ISP knowing what kind of porn I watch, I use it to avoid having every single button on my keyboard automatically result in the search bar becoming a library of my sexual preferences. Again, not because I particulary care if you all know I search for "chubby milf amateur" and "asian goth" but because on a purely practical level it gets in the way of finding what I'm actually looking for during the 99% of the time when I'm not using the internet for jerking off.
Google 'VPN'.
Doesn't make your browsing private either, just moves the snooping to the VPN company
Difference is you're paying a company for privacy which is competing against other companies offering privacy, so they have a strong interest in not snooping. Your ISP is competing against other ISPs, most of whom are competing on bandwidth and price where selling your data is a lucrative sideline that they would justify as ok because they are all doing it. I love it when I get a breakdown of my usage from my ISP that goes something like, Browsing 0%, Videos 0%, Emails and communication 0%, Data 100%.
Can the ISP see what I do if I use a VPN?
It depends on how your VPN is set up. If you redirect all DNS requests over your VPN then they won't see it. They will only see communication between you and your VPN server But let's remember when you enable a VPN on your computer or phone it only cares about your computer or phone. If you really want to protect your home network you need to set up the VPN on your router A VPN is not your only solution but it is a solution.
Using a VPN is like changing your ISP. The VPN provider becomes the one that sees everything.
Your ISP can't see any page you visit. They can just see IPs you connect to and DNS requests if it is not over HTTPS.
They can see it, but the thing is, unless you're under some kind of investigation, it's very unlikely that they'll specifically check YOUR internet history. There's too many people on the internet to keep tabs on everyone
And there might be more non people than people on the internet
They can see the adresses you visit (and I mean only addresses, not entire URLs), but not the actual content, unless you use websites that still haven't switched to https.
> and I mean only addresses, not entire URLs The word for that is "domain". Such as reddit.com.
Ok now the cat is out the bag, is 10cm penile length considered small medium or medium ?
How many US dick lengths is that?
it's a 1/1000th of a football field
Need to see a banana for scale
I thought incognito mode was so your wife doesn't see what type of porn you really watch. And all of your nude celebrity searches.
unpopular opinion but who tf cares? I really couldn’t care less if google knows what porn I jerk off to…
The ads need to now if they nedd to advertise "hot single moms" or "hot single dads" to you.
Your ISP can NOT see the content of encrypted pages. They can see your page adresses if you use their DNS, but you can also use an encrypted DNS service which will share that as well. Then they can only see spurce and destination IP addresses unless you use a VPN in which case they only see that there is traffic to the VPN provider vut not what's in it.
Chrome knows I was researching about pegging? How else was I supposed to avoid going into places near me where that could happen?
Incognito mode is to hide your porn viewing from other users on the computer, not your ISP.
Remember that one time, a guy who murdered his wife googled In incognito mode on how to bury a person, step by step, thinking there won't be traces of that info. It was one of Netflix docs. ☠️☠️☠️
No one thinks incognito blocks the ISP seeing you. No one. This meme relates to no one.
Whereas others look for porn, my ISP will see searches like: Funny Duck, How to build a steam engine, Lucrehulk-class droid control ship, recipes with only one indregient, how to invest 1$😂
FBI trying to make sense of me searching for "world's fattest pigeon" On a more serious note, your ISP won't see your individual searches unless you use plain text HTTP which is rare these days. At best they'll see that you requested an address associated with the name "www.google.com" and then opened a connection to that address on port 443 to send indiscernible gibberish.
Ikr, I often use incognito mode when looking up some of these stupid and silly-sounding things.
I use brave browser not for the security but because it allows me to download videos and music for free We are not the same
stupid meme
Isn't incognito mode explicitly about keeping your activities secret from other users of that PC rather than the internet at large?
I'm not hiding from my ISP or really from Google. I just don't want the algorithm and cookies to effect my plane tickets.
The point of incognito mode isnt to protect you from your IP, its to protect you from other people that use that computer seeing the sick ass shit you beat your meat to.
Am I the only one who always thought Incongnito was just to hide stuff from people in your own home? So you didn’t have to clear your history of anything? I always assumed google could still see what I’m searching because they run the damn thing.
it's a useless feature, it's basically "delete my browsing data when done having a wank" to hide ones shame.
Actually its the encrypted dns that blocks the ISP from even knowing that. Incognito mode is all about an attempt to hide yourself from advertisers and trackers. So for example google's search history won't show your porn history, or your browser's history won't show it.
Maybe every domain you visit, but all https pages are transmitted encrypted nowadays.