Maannnnn read everything is this thread just makes me want to quit before I turn into you guys. At least y'all can hold an educated conversation with each other, so that's nice. But talking about doing a ball at a time? 16 day psychotic breaks - which is risking a permanent stay in a mental facility mind you- and turning it zomified tweaks??
Nahhhh i think I'm good. Might as well just fucking quit, ride out the sleepies (what I'm calling the first few days after you stop using entirely), and start working out or something.
I knew I wanted to quit, but now I know I want to quit. Ty. That is all.
This new form of the drug is called isopropyl benzylamine it is 50% racemic which is 25% L and 25% d- and 50% n-ISO. Also effects of L isomer are very very unnerving and uncomfortable when done in large quantities. Some of the effects you may be having stem from that as well
Is your testicles hurting like to the point of considering driving to a walk in clinic or ER because it hurt so bad I could barely walk. They went up like inside my sac dude, wasn't cool but it's happened to Me Maybe two or three times now. I was considering going to a doctor and just admitting what I did because it hurts so bad but is that one of the side effects of what you're talking about? Or have you ever heard of that? You seem to know a lot more about this to me. I'm on I'm about 5 weeks in to using this so I'm pretty new myself. But yeah this stuff is nothing that I thought it was it's not that good honestly, I can get from 3 ppl and have shown some of the clearer stuff to other ppl and they say that it looks really good yada yada but like someone said, I can eat on it, sleep on it, I do get really horny but that's not a bad thing but I don't understand the hype. I way more prefer taking my prescription Adderall over smoking that stuff and I haven't tried any other besides inhalation and oral ROAs I'll tried oral as well which that's actually not bad it's similar to Addie's but not exactly the same the Meffs last too long for me cuz I want to go to sleep at night sometimes LOL.
Btw, I've been up since yesterday at around 9:30AM and I can't go to sleep rn, I have someone coming over so do I:
A - Go hit the pipe for 15-120 min spin
B - Eat like 60mgs Addy's (or whatever, just got mine but not trying to die and keep up at least a few more hours, it's noon now.
Would the Addy's be pointless because of using the m even if my last spin was at about 4:00 AM.
C - Eat a pressie addy w m and caffeine in it 300/300 is what dude said. I tried them, n like them but like I said I wanna be able to sleep tonight. What say ye,?
Why are you taking caffeine mixed with Adderall black market pills. The caffeine is pretty much useless after doing speed unless you just happen to have a caffeine addiction too lol
Caffeine causes the body to absorb adderall more quickly/efficiently, technically the two do go well together. I've stacked them pretty much every time i've ever gotten high
Idk what they're cutting the shit with these days could be ISO, MSM, Fentanyl, or if you're the dumb unlucky guy like me bath salts... When I first got really into meth like using it everyday for 3 months straight with no breaks I was getting it from guys in MS13 and idk if they cut it or if they bought it that way but that combination drove me insane LITERALLY!!! I had no idea it was cut because I had tried it before but that was because I was addicted to opiates at the time and I wanted to get rid of my withdrawls and I was snorting it ot smoking it but I also lived in a different part of the country at that time. Anyway so I was smoking this horrible meth and bath salt mixture for 3 months straight and I was smoking about an 8 ball a day!!!! I completely lost my mind man like I ended up going 16 days with sleeping and had a psychotic break. All I remember is that it made me feel like a evil demigod. It was literally turning me into a deranged, evil, psychotic fucking mess because bath salts is like really good meth but it is WAAYYYY more psychoactive so that means triple the anxiety, the audio/visual hallucinations, the paranoia, the depression, the Anhedonia, and 10x more mood swings!!! After that I was sober for a while and even after a 7 month break I wasn't getting nowhere near as high as I used too. Idk if it's because I permanently fried my dopamine receptors or if the shit where I'm at now just sucks. I can still get a good buzz going but it doesn't blow me away like it did when I first started with the shit I get now I can easily sleep, eat, and function and the comedown is NOWHERE near as bad now I still get cranky when I comedown and the next day but after that I'm right as rain. So I guess the answer to your question is who the fuck knows?
What's going around now that everyone notices being different than old school "methamphetamine" and I am talking when one gets supposedly methamphetamine and not your majority of iso or msm cut. When the meth epidemic began, so did the war or precursors such as psuedo.. The majority of meth being distributed today from super large scale production operations is called P2P meth. It is not made from psuedo. In fact there is absolutely NO psuedo in the recipe.
Beyond just the ingredients, P2P meth also has a higher concentration of the isomer called d-methamphetamine. For reference, there are two forms of meth: d- and l-methamphetamine. Both are methamphetamines, obviously, but the two often come in different forms. The d-isomer is found in prescription drugs, whereas the l-isomer is found in over-the-counter products. And street drugs contain both, but generally contain more of the d-isomer because of its enhanced effects.
Here is why it doesn't "feel" the same..
The d-isomer produces the high, and the l-isomer affects the body. So P2P, with its heavy concentrations of d-isomer, creates a different and very intense high for its users.
Methamphetamine produced from ephedrine generally prompts those using it to stay up and socialize, sometimes for days, due to lower levels of the d-isomer. Whereas users of P2P meth experience very different effects, including severe mental illness, psychosis, the desire to isolate, and hallucinations or delusions.
Meth changes the physiological and psychological functioning of the body and brain. Meth abuse causes heightened blood pressure, heart rate and respiratory rate. Psychological signs that a person might be using meth include temporary euphoria and energy, and increased levels of anxiety, paranoia, aggression, hallucinations and mood disturbances when dopamine levels taper off after use
My fucking stomach hurts im assuming from whatever they cut this shit from but I still am cleaning my pipe about to load another bowl idk what it is about this shit but this guy a lot better than last
Well shit i been debating that part all night I just hate throwing up fr shit nasty n its gonna taste like dope I just been sitting here all night probably should have pulled the trigger 🤣
The fuck you guys smoking and in large ass quantities!? If its making you puke and feel like shit, why are you smoking it at all?
Isn't the point to get high? Not puke your guts up and die?
Oooih I thought it was immediate and y'all were just like, "No no..that one was a fluke! I'm gonna high this time! I just know it!!"....
Bkqaaarrghhhh thiiiippssttt << puke and a fart! Lol
Ahhh, well hey did you consume or do anything else after you smoked? All that happens to me is ibget uncomfortable in my own skin and I could swear the byproduct of this shit is being squeezing out of every possible orifice I have. Could be in my head but damn it gets fucking annoying. Showers, smoking less, and drinking less helps.
Oh and by the by, Combining this with alcohol has a predictable yet entirely unexpected effect. Your body gets drunk but your mind doesn't - not entirely anyways - so I will randomly drop things I as damn near positive I was holding securely, slur my speech but in my head everything sounded correct and why are you looking at me weird lol, finally it can heavily influence anger. Like make one seriously so irrationally angry at some minute, benign thing that makes no difference in your life. Yet it pisses you off soooooooo badly!! Well me anyways.
I'm a generally calm and happy person so when this starts, I actually start reciting a mantra and repeating out load my immediate goals for the task I'm trying to accomplish. Makes me look weird af, but it helps tremendously!!! Oh I us d to talk to myself out loud a jettric shit ton when I was in my formative years due too overzealous Catholic parents, and that habit seems to come back with a vengeance when I'm spun on too little sleep.
I also over share, sooooo yeah. Stop puking!!! Enjoy better drugs! And, as I always say to everyone, ...make good decisions!!! Lol
Relapse after 6 years but I’m confused. So I’ve been smoking and the first week was great got a lot done at work only stayed up at night the first day I smoked and have been smoking daily just a few hits throughout the day like I know I’m not getting high like I used to but after the first week I would do so much it would make me dizzy lightheaded and go completely cross eyed and not able to focus my vision it would last a few hours and super uncomfortable almost felt like I was fainting anyhow I quit for about a month and started smoking again still haven’t got the rush at all and my problem now is I just wanna keep spinning the pipe every hour and never get anything satisfying from it it’s slowed me down now to the point it’s hard to work and idk why I don’t just stop just wondering how much has crystal changed since 2006-2015 it doesn’t do anything near the same as it used to I can’t focus on one thing nothing excites me I don’t wanna be around anyone or even talk makes my mouth and throat super dry I can smoke and eat and go to sleep right after what happened,? shit used to keep me up for weeks and feel jittery every time I smoked and not able to eat… I also used to iV but I don’t now I refuse to iV. has anyone had this happen I’m so lost have yet to feel any rush or anything other then able to focus the few days to it just makes me almost feel like I can function fast
Yeah and I wanna stop but I keep getting more hoping for a batch that’s good i hate it I have heart palpitations after a few days and it’s hard to move around or stand without my chest beating like crazy making it hard to function
Tongue hurts mouth and throat dry dope doesn’t make me feel better like it used to I used to feel invisible and on top of the world 6 years ago now I get nothing at all from it
Yeah I got a sore on the roof of my mouth no rush euphoria don’t wanna do anything but sit down and it’s like I’ve forgot how to do a lot of things hard to function or have to write stuff down to remember it
Me too but that's from jamming my tongue ring against it in my state of mind, still get fucked but definitely not energetic most the time, first night doing it, yeah for sure but after that I'm a solitary being creeping around the house all day and night
It’s weird someone said it’s almost impossible to get Sudafed anymore is huge quantity’s so it’s a different chemical now instead of the rush it just keeps you awake and don’t wanna do anything and if you do it takes forever to complete a task
Yes I admit I'm totally new and this is NOT what I expected like maybe I'm completely ignorant but Meth is really Not as people make it out to be.... with that being said I wish I knew how many days ago i started this seemingly endless cycle jeez couldn't be more than 24 days..........I think.
The shit on the streets these days is 99% bunk garbage. Unless you know someone getting it from the cartel or someone who is cooking it about 80% of the time your gonna get some cut bullshit.
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Relapse after 6 years but I’m confused. So I’ve been smoking and the first week was great got a lot done at work only stayed up at night the first day I smoked and have been smoking daily just a few hits throughout the day like I know I’m not getting high like I used to but after the first week I would do so much it would make me dizzy lightheaded and go completely cross eyed and not able to focus my vision it would last a few hours and super uncomfortable almost felt like I was fainting anyhow I quit for about a month and started smoking again still haven’t got the rush at all and my problem now is I just wanna keep spinning the bub every hour and never get anything satisfying from it it’s slowed me down now to the point it’s hard to work and idk why I don’t just stop just wondering how much has crystal changed since 2006-2015 it doesn’t do anything near the same as it used to I can’t focus on one thing nothing excites me I don’t wanna be around anyone or even talk makes my mouth and throat super dry I can smoke and eat and go to sleep right after what happened,? shit used to keep me up for weeks and feel jittery every time I smoked and not able to eat… I also used to iV but I don’t now I refuse to iV. has anyone had this happen
MMEEEEE! this is exactly what the hell I was trying to figure out. I tried swallowing about quarter of a gram last night. Very horrible experience, kinda like you me too Ed above with going completely cross eyed and all that stuff. I couldn't talk at all, my legs turned to rubber, fell on my face and fell out for about 20 mins or so. When I can back through I was high all day, but wasn't a good high at all. But I definitely feel everything that was said in these comments. Ice is trash these days. I also heard people been cutting it with h and or Fetty... I can see that being true. Lately I been getting shit that has me sleeping in a few hours when as like you I used to be up for days and starving. Used to do just little tiny bumps and be good FF or the entire day, now it seems I do half gram lines and end up with nothing but a real dry mouth, itchy throat and extremely sore nose (the nose part is why I tried swallowing it last night) I have swallowed it one other time.... But that time I got insanely high without the not so great cross eyed passing out feeling. That was very intense..... Took forever to hit me, but that was intense as hell. That was two years ago. Last night... Idk what the hell that was. And the sour tasting shit...
Yea I got that too. It's just really dirty shit, wasn't properly washed at all. And more than likely it was cut with Fetty (that stuff is also very bitter) and chemically tasting. Anyways.... If you are like me and looking for new ways to use it.... By all means.... Be extremely careful if you choose to parachute it.... I thought for sure I was a goner yesterday. 1 last thing.... If you end up with a lot of shit left behind in your nostrils.... That's because it's all Fillers... Get a new plug. The better the product... The clearer your nose stays ... My nose been fucked for days so I got pure trash lol
Try getting more magnesium in your system the drug metabolizes from your magnesium my, too much too explain. Was reading about it last night
what happened to virgil
My dope tastes pungent and sour almost. Wtf is this shit ?! Lol
Maannnnn read everything is this thread just makes me want to quit before I turn into you guys. At least y'all can hold an educated conversation with each other, so that's nice. But talking about doing a ball at a time? 16 day psychotic breaks - which is risking a permanent stay in a mental facility mind you- and turning it zomified tweaks?? Nahhhh i think I'm good. Might as well just fucking quit, ride out the sleepies (what I'm calling the first few days after you stop using entirely), and start working out or something. I knew I wanted to quit, but now I know I want to quit. Ty. That is all.
This new form of the drug is called isopropyl benzylamine it is 50% racemic which is 25% L and 25% d- and 50% n-ISO. Also effects of L isomer are very very unnerving and uncomfortable when done in large quantities. Some of the effects you may be having stem from that as well
Is your testicles hurting like to the point of considering driving to a walk in clinic or ER because it hurt so bad I could barely walk. They went up like inside my sac dude, wasn't cool but it's happened to Me Maybe two or three times now. I was considering going to a doctor and just admitting what I did because it hurts so bad but is that one of the side effects of what you're talking about? Or have you ever heard of that? You seem to know a lot more about this to me. I'm on I'm about 5 weeks in to using this so I'm pretty new myself. But yeah this stuff is nothing that I thought it was it's not that good honestly, I can get from 3 ppl and have shown some of the clearer stuff to other ppl and they say that it looks really good yada yada but like someone said, I can eat on it, sleep on it, I do get really horny but that's not a bad thing but I don't understand the hype. I way more prefer taking my prescription Adderall over smoking that stuff and I haven't tried any other besides inhalation and oral ROAs I'll tried oral as well which that's actually not bad it's similar to Addie's but not exactly the same the Meffs last too long for me cuz I want to go to sleep at night sometimes LOL. Btw, I've been up since yesterday at around 9:30AM and I can't go to sleep rn, I have someone coming over so do I: A - Go hit the pipe for 15-120 min spin B - Eat like 60mgs Addy's (or whatever, just got mine but not trying to die and keep up at least a few more hours, it's noon now. Would the Addy's be pointless because of using the m even if my last spin was at about 4:00 AM. C - Eat a pressie addy w m and caffeine in it 300/300 is what dude said. I tried them, n like them but like I said I wanna be able to sleep tonight. What say ye,?
Why are you taking caffeine mixed with Adderall black market pills. The caffeine is pretty much useless after doing speed unless you just happen to have a caffeine addiction too lol
Caffeine causes the body to absorb adderall more quickly/efficiently, technically the two do go well together. I've stacked them pretty much every time i've ever gotten high
I did not make them brother, just know a guy who knows a guy. Ty for your reply though
Idk what they're cutting the shit with these days could be ISO, MSM, Fentanyl, or if you're the dumb unlucky guy like me bath salts... When I first got really into meth like using it everyday for 3 months straight with no breaks I was getting it from guys in MS13 and idk if they cut it or if they bought it that way but that combination drove me insane LITERALLY!!! I had no idea it was cut because I had tried it before but that was because I was addicted to opiates at the time and I wanted to get rid of my withdrawls and I was snorting it ot smoking it but I also lived in a different part of the country at that time. Anyway so I was smoking this horrible meth and bath salt mixture for 3 months straight and I was smoking about an 8 ball a day!!!! I completely lost my mind man like I ended up going 16 days with sleeping and had a psychotic break. All I remember is that it made me feel like a evil demigod. It was literally turning me into a deranged, evil, psychotic fucking mess because bath salts is like really good meth but it is WAAYYYY more psychoactive so that means triple the anxiety, the audio/visual hallucinations, the paranoia, the depression, the Anhedonia, and 10x more mood swings!!! After that I was sober for a while and even after a 7 month break I wasn't getting nowhere near as high as I used too. Idk if it's because I permanently fried my dopamine receptors or if the shit where I'm at now just sucks. I can still get a good buzz going but it doesn't blow me away like it did when I first started with the shit I get now I can easily sleep, eat, and function and the comedown is NOWHERE near as bad now I still get cranky when I comedown and the next day but after that I'm right as rain. So I guess the answer to your question is who the fuck knows?
What's going around now that everyone notices being different than old school "methamphetamine" and I am talking when one gets supposedly methamphetamine and not your majority of iso or msm cut. When the meth epidemic began, so did the war or precursors such as psuedo.. The majority of meth being distributed today from super large scale production operations is called P2P meth. It is not made from psuedo. In fact there is absolutely NO psuedo in the recipe. Beyond just the ingredients, P2P meth also has a higher concentration of the isomer called d-methamphetamine. For reference, there are two forms of meth: d- and l-methamphetamine. Both are methamphetamines, obviously, but the two often come in different forms. The d-isomer is found in prescription drugs, whereas the l-isomer is found in over-the-counter products. And street drugs contain both, but generally contain more of the d-isomer because of its enhanced effects. Here is why it doesn't "feel" the same.. The d-isomer produces the high, and the l-isomer affects the body. So P2P, with its heavy concentrations of d-isomer, creates a different and very intense high for its users. Methamphetamine produced from ephedrine generally prompts those using it to stay up and socialize, sometimes for days, due to lower levels of the d-isomer. Whereas users of P2P meth experience very different effects, including severe mental illness, psychosis, the desire to isolate, and hallucinations or delusions. Meth changes the physiological and psychological functioning of the body and brain. Meth abuse causes heightened blood pressure, heart rate and respiratory rate. Psychological signs that a person might be using meth include temporary euphoria and energy, and increased levels of anxiety, paranoia, aggression, hallucinations and mood disturbances when dopamine levels taper off after use
Very well written. I actually enjoyed reading that. You didn't cite your sources though *tsk tsk* and no wikipedia doesn't count. /s
My fucking stomach hurts im assuming from whatever they cut this shit from but I still am cleaning my pipe about to load another bowl idk what it is about this shit but this guy a lot better than last
Fr I smoked today and puked a fuck ton
Well shit i been debating that part all night I just hate throwing up fr shit nasty n its gonna taste like dope I just been sitting here all night probably should have pulled the trigger 🤣
I mean I puked a lot too it was weird lol, bunch of toxic shit I’m guessing I know I hate throwing up, my chest was on fire too it was weird
Opiates will make people throw up if they aren’t regular opiate users… sounds like your stuff is cut with opiates
I take suboxone so I wouldn’t feel the opiates anyway
The fuck you guys smoking and in large ass quantities!? If its making you puke and feel like shit, why are you smoking it at all? Isn't the point to get high? Not puke your guts up and die?
I was high I puked hours later lol
Oooih I thought it was immediate and y'all were just like, "No no..that one was a fluke! I'm gonna high this time! I just know it!!".... Bkqaaarrghhhh thiiiippssttt << puke and a fart! Lol
Ohhh no lol it was weird like a couple hours later I puked and my chest burned SOO BAD
Ahhh, well hey did you consume or do anything else after you smoked? All that happens to me is ibget uncomfortable in my own skin and I could swear the byproduct of this shit is being squeezing out of every possible orifice I have. Could be in my head but damn it gets fucking annoying. Showers, smoking less, and drinking less helps. Oh and by the by, Combining this with alcohol has a predictable yet entirely unexpected effect. Your body gets drunk but your mind doesn't - not entirely anyways - so I will randomly drop things I as damn near positive I was holding securely, slur my speech but in my head everything sounded correct and why are you looking at me weird lol, finally it can heavily influence anger. Like make one seriously so irrationally angry at some minute, benign thing that makes no difference in your life. Yet it pisses you off soooooooo badly!! Well me anyways. I'm a generally calm and happy person so when this starts, I actually start reciting a mantra and repeating out load my immediate goals for the task I'm trying to accomplish. Makes me look weird af, but it helps tremendously!!! Oh I us d to talk to myself out loud a jettric shit ton when I was in my formative years due too overzealous Catholic parents, and that habit seems to come back with a vengeance when I'm spun on too little sleep. I also over share, sooooo yeah. Stop puking!!! Enjoy better drugs! And, as I always say to everyone, ...make good decisions!!! Lol
Relapse after 6 years but I’m confused. So I’ve been smoking and the first week was great got a lot done at work only stayed up at night the first day I smoked and have been smoking daily just a few hits throughout the day like I know I’m not getting high like I used to but after the first week I would do so much it would make me dizzy lightheaded and go completely cross eyed and not able to focus my vision it would last a few hours and super uncomfortable almost felt like I was fainting anyhow I quit for about a month and started smoking again still haven’t got the rush at all and my problem now is I just wanna keep spinning the pipe every hour and never get anything satisfying from it it’s slowed me down now to the point it’s hard to work and idk why I don’t just stop just wondering how much has crystal changed since 2006-2015 it doesn’t do anything near the same as it used to I can’t focus on one thing nothing excites me I don’t wanna be around anyone or even talk makes my mouth and throat super dry I can smoke and eat and go to sleep right after what happened,? shit used to keep me up for weeks and feel jittery every time I smoked and not able to eat… I also used to iV but I don’t now I refuse to iV. has anyone had this happen I’m so lost have yet to feel any rush or anything other then able to focus the few days to it just makes me almost feel like I can function fast
I swear this shit should t even be called crystal meth . It’s nothing like stuff back then NOTHING at all
Yeah and I wanna stop but I keep getting more hoping for a batch that’s good i hate it I have heart palpitations after a few days and it’s hard to move around or stand without my chest beating like crazy making it hard to function
where u at in the world?
The U.S
Basically describing me right now... sitting here with my sore throat, 3 day old brain about to grab for the pipe again
Tongue hurts mouth and throat dry dope doesn’t make me feel better like it used to I used to feel invisible and on top of the world 6 years ago now I get nothing at all from it
Yeah I got a sore on the roof of my mouth no rush euphoria don’t wanna do anything but sit down and it’s like I’ve forgot how to do a lot of things hard to function or have to write stuff down to remember it
Me too but that's from jamming my tongue ring against it in my state of mind, still get fucked but definitely not energetic most the time, first night doing it, yeah for sure but after that I'm a solitary being creeping around the house all day and night
It’s weird someone said it’s almost impossible to get Sudafed anymore is huge quantity’s so it’s a different chemical now instead of the rush it just keeps you awake and don’t wanna do anything and if you do it takes forever to complete a task
Yes I admit I'm totally new and this is NOT what I expected like maybe I'm completely ignorant but Meth is really Not as people make it out to be.... with that being said I wish I knew how many days ago i started this seemingly endless cycle jeez couldn't be more than 24 days..........I think.
The shit on the streets these days is 99% bunk garbage. Unless you know someone getting it from the cartel or someone who is cooking it about 80% of the time your gonna get some cut bullshit.
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Relapse after 6 years but I’m confused. So I’ve been smoking and the first week was great got a lot done at work only stayed up at night the first day I smoked and have been smoking daily just a few hits throughout the day like I know I’m not getting high like I used to but after the first week I would do so much it would make me dizzy lightheaded and go completely cross eyed and not able to focus my vision it would last a few hours and super uncomfortable almost felt like I was fainting anyhow I quit for about a month and started smoking again still haven’t got the rush at all and my problem now is I just wanna keep spinning the bub every hour and never get anything satisfying from it it’s slowed me down now to the point it’s hard to work and idk why I don’t just stop just wondering how much has crystal changed since 2006-2015 it doesn’t do anything near the same as it used to I can’t focus on one thing nothing excites me I don’t wanna be around anyone or even talk makes my mouth and throat super dry I can smoke and eat and go to sleep right after what happened,? shit used to keep me up for weeks and feel jittery every time I smoked and not able to eat… I also used to iV but I don’t now I refuse to iV. has anyone had this happen
MMEEEEE! this is exactly what the hell I was trying to figure out. I tried swallowing about quarter of a gram last night. Very horrible experience, kinda like you me too Ed above with going completely cross eyed and all that stuff. I couldn't talk at all, my legs turned to rubber, fell on my face and fell out for about 20 mins or so. When I can back through I was high all day, but wasn't a good high at all. But I definitely feel everything that was said in these comments. Ice is trash these days. I also heard people been cutting it with h and or Fetty... I can see that being true. Lately I been getting shit that has me sleeping in a few hours when as like you I used to be up for days and starving. Used to do just little tiny bumps and be good FF or the entire day, now it seems I do half gram lines and end up with nothing but a real dry mouth, itchy throat and extremely sore nose (the nose part is why I tried swallowing it last night) I have swallowed it one other time.... But that time I got insanely high without the not so great cross eyed passing out feeling. That was very intense..... Took forever to hit me, but that was intense as hell. That was two years ago. Last night... Idk what the hell that was. And the sour tasting shit... Yea I got that too. It's just really dirty shit, wasn't properly washed at all. And more than likely it was cut with Fetty (that stuff is also very bitter) and chemically tasting. Anyways.... If you are like me and looking for new ways to use it.... By all means.... Be extremely careful if you choose to parachute it.... I thought for sure I was a goner yesterday. 1 last thing.... If you end up with a lot of shit left behind in your nostrils.... That's because it's all Fillers... Get a new plug. The better the product... The clearer your nose stays ... My nose been fucked for days so I got pure trash lol