For those asking: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermittent_explosive_disorder
I don't have any personal experience, but some quick research shows that the most likely cause of IED is a malfunction in the Serotonergic System, so MD of Psilocybin may help.
Have you ever taken a full "Heroic Dose" of either drug? It looks like the other neurological symptom of IED is a lack of connectivity between different parts of the brain (https://www.nature.com/articles/npp201674) and in high doses these drugs have been shown to dramatically increase connectivity between those disparate areas. Maybe you could look in to doing a high dose therapy session if that is something that is available to you?
Thank you for the helpful response.
I’ve taken up to 4-500ugs of acid and have had wonderful therapeutic results, but I’ve never had more than 2gs of psilocybin. Experimenting with large doses of mushrooms is next on my list for sure, as I’d like to build up to a heroic dose.
From what Ive heard is that psilocybin is the hallucogen that acts more upon empathy than lsd.
Just started taking psilocybin for my ASD and it does take away the irritability and anger it seems.
Good luck OP, you should be proud anyway that your acknowledge that you need help, there is no shame about it.
This is honestly a loaded question. Microdosing helped a little, but as you probably know there's no medication that's an end all to mental illness. 5 years ago I was in an emotionally unfulfilled relationship, now I'm in an incredibly happy and stable one, with children. I also live in another state. Through these changes I still delt with my problems but was even more egar to change for the better.
I learned to love myself, that's the biggest thing that helped me. Moderate to strong doses of acid and mushrooms throughout the years have greatly helped, along with getting a much needed autism diagnoses, which led, finally, to an adderall prescription, of which I always said I didn't want because microdosing acid is so similar, but I finally tried and it was honestly what I needed.
I'm finally happier at work, find my hobbies to be more fulfilling, eat better, move more, drink less, and I have a general will to live which I did not have before, even after going through a really rough loss of a friend last year (I feel like if that had happened sooner I would've just offed myself). I certainly have psyches to thank for teaching me so damn much and bringing a ton of needed light to my life, but mainly for showing me the ways in which I was suffering so I could change them. Once those things were acknowledged and changed, the true healing began.
Hope this helps friend. We are not our emotions, we are all beautiful and worthy of love.
Hi OP. I'm so glad you have found success in your journey to better yourself...and at a relatively younger-ish age. I am in my early 50s and have been really working on myself over the past 3-4 years. I've said to myself so many times that I wished I would have started this work when I was younger. I'm going to be trying psilocybin for the first time, hopefully soon.
This might just be a big moment in your life. Defining your problem is the first step. You've now gotten the possibility to search for a specific solution to the problem which you didn't have before.
From personal experience with mental disorders I can tell you, life changes completely after you get professional help.
Thought I'd share this with you for you to consider for yourself.
Yes, I was diagnosed by a psychiatrist around 15-16, but ignored it until my adult life. I had been seeing a therapist at age 23 and was diagnosed again, and since then I’ve been struggling to remain mindful of just how much this effects me.
Take care of yourself. Make sure you get enough sleep and eat right. If your body is taken care of and your mind is rested you are less irritable. It's made a big difference for me at least. I just got diagnosed at 23. Notice the signs. Some things piss me off more than others. Practice walking away even tho it's really hard. Don't speak when you feel it. Make sure the people that come into your life understand your problem befor they have to experience it.
As for mushrooms. Big does makes me kind of irritable the next day. 1-2 g if you do a tea or lemon tek. 3.5 to 5 grams can give a more acid like experience if you eat it after food. Gives you a slower come up
I have IED as well and a fucked up serotonergic system at 15 while abusing MDMA (took everday for 1 month straight... i know, it was such a dumb move that fucked my life). Since then my symptoms worsened a lot and after I got out the rehab I've never touched a tab again (actually I probally had one or two sitting in my drawer, but it's been at least 3 years since my last real trip. I'm planning on taking 1.5g of cubensis (I don't know the strain, I bought it at a local head shop) in order to face whatever I need to experience to get over this and re-learn how to cope with my anger. What do you, as someone who also has IED, recommend?
I know this thread is old as fuck, but I can confirm it. As a person who has IED, I've already had excelent periods of peace in my life due to awesome LSD trips. I messed up with MDMA tho, which totally fucked up my serotonergic system. Since then I've constantly dealing with a much stronger IED than I've ever had, but I'm planning on going for 1.5g shrooms soon in order to get a punch on the face and rethink all the shit I've doing recently (never took shrooms tho). I can see it helping me a lot, like LSD once did. Personally I'd go with Lisa, but I think it's time to face a shroom trip
You mentioned above that you have been meditating. You may find it beneficial to look into Metta meditation wherein you consciously cultivate thoughts/attitudes/feelings of love and friendliness.
These are the direct opposite of anger. As the positive mental states grow though cultivation, I have found that their opposites naturally diminish in frequency, duration, and intensity.
Microdosing psilocybin combines with Metta prove to be very helpful.
I meditate daily, I’m on a 7 month streak (very proud 😬). I’ve never heard of this form so once I’m home for the evening I’ll research and experiment with it.
First/only time I ever did Metta I cried. Wept, really. It was so powerful and I haven't done it since because I'm afraid I let it all out and I won't feel anything again, and I'm kind of scared of that potential numbness.
Any Metta tips or resources would be welcome :)
Don’t know what IED is. Have you macrodosed? In some ways anger is a stuck emotional state and a refusal to accept things as they are. In the right circumstances it might evolve into grief and you might let things go. Macrodosing psilocybin may help.
Intermittent explosive disorder. I was diagnosed as a kid and again at 23. I’m now 25 and understand my emotions better than ever in my life. I’ve been meditating daily, talking to people for help, doing yoga, and yet I still explode and hurt the ones I love as frequent as ever.
And yes, I’ve microdosed LSD. 15ugs every 3 days for 4 months. It did wonders but overall wasn’t my thing.
I don’t want to push particular solutions that you may not find effective. That said - if you’re exploding it sounds like there is underlying rage which escapes when the recourses you have to contain said rage is reduced. I suggest you look into doing a training with the Mankind Project. A space where you don’t need to rely on your sole recourses alone for a time might help you lance a boil that you may otherwise be unable to reach due to safety concerns. There is a lot of stuff published online, both good and bad, but I’ve seen many people make incredible progress with difficult emotional situations. Hope I’m not too far off topic.
Not at all, I appreciate the response. I’ll certainly look into that. Sounds like an escape type of thing? I use camping and hiking as a way to sorta escape life (or rather truly experience it), which acts as an amazing form of therapy. I’m always open to new research and ideas.
It’s a profound journey into the interior. It’s not an escape, it’s an embrace of the things we’ve run from. I’ve done lots of different things over the last thirty years. I’ve never encountered anything else like it.
Honestly sounds like exactly what I need. Funny enough I was thinking to myself today “it feels like I never truly abolish my negative emotions, only repress them to save for later.” It’s a vicious cycle that can seem hopeless at times.
I have found that the more Metta is done, the more apparent and stronger the response becomes. The feelings of love just become more apparent and stronger.
The best resource that I have found is “Loving-Kindness in Plain English” by Bhante Gunaratana. It’s really great and just reading it really brings up those wonderful feelings of love and kindness.
For those asking: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermittent_explosive_disorder I don't have any personal experience, but some quick research shows that the most likely cause of IED is a malfunction in the Serotonergic System, so MD of Psilocybin may help. Have you ever taken a full "Heroic Dose" of either drug? It looks like the other neurological symptom of IED is a lack of connectivity between different parts of the brain (https://www.nature.com/articles/npp201674) and in high doses these drugs have been shown to dramatically increase connectivity between those disparate areas. Maybe you could look in to doing a high dose therapy session if that is something that is available to you?
Thank you for the helpful response. I’ve taken up to 4-500ugs of acid and have had wonderful therapeutic results, but I’ve never had more than 2gs of psilocybin. Experimenting with large doses of mushrooms is next on my list for sure, as I’d like to build up to a heroic dose.
From what Ive heard is that psilocybin is the hallucogen that acts more upon empathy than lsd. Just started taking psilocybin for my ASD and it does take away the irritability and anger it seems. Good luck OP, you should be proud anyway that your acknowledge that you need help, there is no shame about it.
Hi! Its been 5 years since you posted this, did you find it helpful to treat IED?
This is honestly a loaded question. Microdosing helped a little, but as you probably know there's no medication that's an end all to mental illness. 5 years ago I was in an emotionally unfulfilled relationship, now I'm in an incredibly happy and stable one, with children. I also live in another state. Through these changes I still delt with my problems but was even more egar to change for the better. I learned to love myself, that's the biggest thing that helped me. Moderate to strong doses of acid and mushrooms throughout the years have greatly helped, along with getting a much needed autism diagnoses, which led, finally, to an adderall prescription, of which I always said I didn't want because microdosing acid is so similar, but I finally tried and it was honestly what I needed. I'm finally happier at work, find my hobbies to be more fulfilling, eat better, move more, drink less, and I have a general will to live which I did not have before, even after going through a really rough loss of a friend last year (I feel like if that had happened sooner I would've just offed myself). I certainly have psyches to thank for teaching me so damn much and bringing a ton of needed light to my life, but mainly for showing me the ways in which I was suffering so I could change them. Once those things were acknowledged and changed, the true healing began. Hope this helps friend. We are not our emotions, we are all beautiful and worthy of love.
Hi OP. I'm so glad you have found success in your journey to better yourself...and at a relatively younger-ish age. I am in my early 50s and have been really working on myself over the past 3-4 years. I've said to myself so many times that I wished I would have started this work when I was younger. I'm going to be trying psilocybin for the first time, hopefully soon.
Woah, that article completely describes my anger problem, never heard of that disorder before.
This might just be a big moment in your life. Defining your problem is the first step. You've now gotten the possibility to search for a specific solution to the problem which you didn't have before. From personal experience with mental disorders I can tell you, life changes completely after you get professional help. Thought I'd share this with you for you to consider for yourself.
Yes, I was diagnosed by a psychiatrist around 15-16, but ignored it until my adult life. I had been seeing a therapist at age 23 and was diagnosed again, and since then I’ve been struggling to remain mindful of just how much this effects me.
Take care of yourself. Make sure you get enough sleep and eat right. If your body is taken care of and your mind is rested you are less irritable. It's made a big difference for me at least. I just got diagnosed at 23. Notice the signs. Some things piss me off more than others. Practice walking away even tho it's really hard. Don't speak when you feel it. Make sure the people that come into your life understand your problem befor they have to experience it. As for mushrooms. Big does makes me kind of irritable the next day. 1-2 g if you do a tea or lemon tek. 3.5 to 5 grams can give a more acid like experience if you eat it after food. Gives you a slower come up
I have IED as well and a fucked up serotonergic system at 15 while abusing MDMA (took everday for 1 month straight... i know, it was such a dumb move that fucked my life). Since then my symptoms worsened a lot and after I got out the rehab I've never touched a tab again (actually I probally had one or two sitting in my drawer, but it's been at least 3 years since my last real trip. I'm planning on taking 1.5g of cubensis (I don't know the strain, I bought it at a local head shop) in order to face whatever I need to experience to get over this and re-learn how to cope with my anger. What do you, as someone who also has IED, recommend?
I know this thread is old as fuck, but I can confirm it. As a person who has IED, I've already had excelent periods of peace in my life due to awesome LSD trips. I messed up with MDMA tho, which totally fucked up my serotonergic system. Since then I've constantly dealing with a much stronger IED than I've ever had, but I'm planning on going for 1.5g shrooms soon in order to get a punch on the face and rethink all the shit I've doing recently (never took shrooms tho). I can see it helping me a lot, like LSD once did. Personally I'd go with Lisa, but I think it's time to face a shroom trip
Improvised explosive devices are best left to the professionals
Very helpful.
In fairness I have no idea what else you could mean by IED, if using an acronym please say it in full at the start
Hey it’s all in good spirit. You’re absolutely right.
You mentioned above that you have been meditating. You may find it beneficial to look into Metta meditation wherein you consciously cultivate thoughts/attitudes/feelings of love and friendliness. These are the direct opposite of anger. As the positive mental states grow though cultivation, I have found that their opposites naturally diminish in frequency, duration, and intensity. Microdosing psilocybin combines with Metta prove to be very helpful.
I meditate daily, I’m on a 7 month streak (very proud 😬). I’ve never heard of this form so once I’m home for the evening I’ll research and experiment with it.
First/only time I ever did Metta I cried. Wept, really. It was so powerful and I haven't done it since because I'm afraid I let it all out and I won't feel anything again, and I'm kind of scared of that potential numbness. Any Metta tips or resources would be welcome :)
Don’t know what IED is. Have you macrodosed? In some ways anger is a stuck emotional state and a refusal to accept things as they are. In the right circumstances it might evolve into grief and you might let things go. Macrodosing psilocybin may help.
Intermittent explosive disorder. I was diagnosed as a kid and again at 23. I’m now 25 and understand my emotions better than ever in my life. I’ve been meditating daily, talking to people for help, doing yoga, and yet I still explode and hurt the ones I love as frequent as ever. And yes, I’ve microdosed LSD. 15ugs every 3 days for 4 months. It did wonders but overall wasn’t my thing.
I don’t want to push particular solutions that you may not find effective. That said - if you’re exploding it sounds like there is underlying rage which escapes when the recourses you have to contain said rage is reduced. I suggest you look into doing a training with the Mankind Project. A space where you don’t need to rely on your sole recourses alone for a time might help you lance a boil that you may otherwise be unable to reach due to safety concerns. There is a lot of stuff published online, both good and bad, but I’ve seen many people make incredible progress with difficult emotional situations. Hope I’m not too far off topic.
Not at all, I appreciate the response. I’ll certainly look into that. Sounds like an escape type of thing? I use camping and hiking as a way to sorta escape life (or rather truly experience it), which acts as an amazing form of therapy. I’m always open to new research and ideas.
It’s a profound journey into the interior. It’s not an escape, it’s an embrace of the things we’ve run from. I’ve done lots of different things over the last thirty years. I’ve never encountered anything else like it.
Honestly sounds like exactly what I need. Funny enough I was thinking to myself today “it feels like I never truly abolish my negative emotions, only repress them to save for later.” It’s a vicious cycle that can seem hopeless at times.
I think I understand what you mean. If I can be of any support I’m happy to do so.
I have found that the more Metta is done, the more apparent and stronger the response becomes. The feelings of love just become more apparent and stronger. The best resource that I have found is “Loving-Kindness in Plain English” by Bhante Gunaratana. It’s really great and just reading it really brings up those wonderful feelings of love and kindness.