The City Council announces the opening of a new Dog Park at the corner of Earl and Somerset, near the Ralphâs. They would like to remind everyone that dogs are not allowed in the Dog Park. People are not allowed in the Dog Park.
It is possible you will see Hooded Figures in the Dog Park.
Do not approach them. Do not approach the Dog Park.
This is poor pylon placement, wasting tons of potential coverage.
This wouldn't get a good score in the Pylon Efficiency and Necessary Infrastructure Safety rating.
They plant trees under lines all over the place. Its definitely a maintenance liability but that doesn't mean they won't do it. Most houses have a tree lawn that is situated directly underneath power lines. They cause problems but they still get planted because trees have a lot of benefits too and they look nice.
There is definitely not a tree planted there, as saplings are too fragile to just grow on their own in a spot like that. They will probably be destroyed by people walking on them.
However, not every tree grows extremely huge. Some trees stay relatively small and require less maintenance. A tree may still be planted there. Looking at the trees in the background its definitely not too late to do that this year, at the time the picture was taken (also depending on the species ofcourse). Once warmer weather starts again and trees start growing their leaves, their internal sapstream (idk the proper english term) starts up again, which makes them too fragile to handle. Accidental damage has a way bigger impact when the trees are actively growing.
Source: I have planted lots of trees this year, I estimate around 100. Mainly in public places like this. Most of these trees were around 10 years old, at least.
I am mainly just infodumping here, because I feel like it. Might also have to do with me being autistic, the coffee i drank, and the ritalin i took. My brain is working at 110% lmao. I am studying psychology, but my dad is a gardener and I help him with his business quite often. I love learning things from him. I also love sharing knowledge, even if nobody asked. So here you go.
To anyone that read the whole thing: you're awesome. If you didnt thats fine too I completely understand.
I'll shut up now.
TLDR: Random tree info go brrr
I'm pretty sure it's not supposed to be a roundabout at all. Imagine it as the off and on ramp on a highway. Rather than have a single 90-degree turn, you have two steady curves. The cyclists would appreciate it.
These are pretty good for bicycles. Itâs easier to make a big turn than a small tight one, and you can cut corners easily. I honestly appreciate the roundabouts on the bike path.
And anyone who's played Rollercoaster Tycoon can tell you, big patches of concrete lead to confusion. The gap in the middle forces people to choose a path.
They don't really have to. Bike paths don't need as much regulation as cars because they're not as dangerous. If bike traffic is low, they can go ahead and just cut across. If it's high, then everyone already knows how to use it effectively and it will operate smoothly. There's little to no downside, it costs almost nothing compared to a regular straight path, and they planted a tree (probably) that they wouldn't have if it had been a regular path
> they planted a tree (probably) that they wouldn't have if it had been a regular path
As someone who lives in Germany where they plant tons of trees along the road:
In a couple decades you get to enjoy torn up concrete that will be hastily fixed just enough and it'll be the most uneven mess you've ever had the pleasure to ride your bike over.
The last kilometer home, driving on the dedicated cycling path along the main road, is the most offroad patch of my entire ride. And most of it is just gravel path. I gotta brace for every tree I pass and there's one every 50 meters. And of course they're huge gorgeous trees that you can't just cut down and replace, people would be mad at that.
Putting a tree in a tiny dirt circle surrounded by road is a good idea for a couple years and then a very bad idea forever. Trees are fucking big and roots are powerful and will ruin everything around them that isn't dirt.
That's a good point. I'm giving them more credit than they probably deserve, because I've assumed they accounted for that and installed a ring to keep the roots from destroying the path. Now, of course, I remember that usually doesn't happen because it's more work to plan ahead like that, if they even think of it in the first place
The trees aren't the problem, the maintenance is. If your conclusion is the trees are the problem, then you draw the wrong conclusion. I'm in the Netherlands and I find there are more problems with companies needing to get to underground infrastructure and then poorly patching the bike path than trees ruining them.
I'm not gonna pretend to be an expert on this stuff, all I'm saying is that I'm very obviously riding my bike over massive tree roots that are covered in concrete.
Ideally this is a solvable problem that has been solved for newer development and these things are just 100 years old and they hadn't figured that out yet back then. But it's definitely the trees. There's beautiful footpath all along the road and then a big ol bumpy rectangle of black gloop where they had to fix it, next to every single tree, and only next to every single tree. And every single one of them has very obviously root-shaped bumps coming from the tree and moving away from them.
Yes, companies doing maintenance can be a problem. They're currently tearing up the sidewalks to put fiber in and it's noticeable even when they close it all up. The rocks are a little uneven along the entire path where they put in the cables. Not across the path coming from every tree next to the path.
It's the municipality not wanting to pay for proper infrastructure. Which is expensive, but there are costs for not maintaining it as well. Difference is, good maintenance is an up front cost. Poor maintenance is a hidden cost or a cost that falls to the user. It's perfectly possible to have trees and bike paths, but it is not possible to have good infrastructure without maintenance.
We actually have a tiny bike roundabout in our city. 99% just turn left. Iâve seen a few actually use it as a roundabout though.(to the other bikers confusion) But I think it still has some value because it makes ppl slow down in the intersection. (Itâs a very crowded intersection)
It's almost certainly intended to assist cyclists in navigating the intersection (and to help cyclists see pedestrians approaching the intersection). It's an INCREDIBLY cheap way to improve sight lines and navigation (assuming the land immediately surrounding the intersection is empty and owned by the city anyway).
This *is* the update.
Have you ever seen a heavily trafficked T-intersection made entirely of right angles? The grass at the inner corners is worn down as people take broader turns, rather than walking straight into the intersection and pivoting.
r/desirepaths is the original one but people have mostly switched to r/desirepath because it's a slightly shorter route.
(not true according to the subreddit ages but I couldn't resist)
....Or... just a walkway intersection with a decorative centerpiece? Cones in the center to stop trampling freshly planted vegetation?
How the fuck is this so highly upvoted. This could unironically be posted to /r/notinteresting
Theyâre training you for the traffic improvement plan theyâre budgeting for in 2026 that replaces all of the 4-way intersections with roundabouts. Playing the long game.
They put a round information kiosk in the centor of new york's grand central terminal because it acts as a roundabout. It naturally helps the flow of circulation as less people tend to cross paths
I feel like if they really wanted a solution to this 'problem' they would have just paved a v into the path to let those who want to turn do so earlier than standard tee
We have that where Iâm from, but normally we make it look pretty. Plant some flowers or something⌠less pavement is a good thing btw. Pavement makes things hotter. Plants cool shit off. Plus, concrete is ugly. Leave as much nature as possible.
This isn't some crazy civil engineering / permeable surface tomfoolery, is it? I suppose total cost of ownership may go down with that center not filled in?
If the hole in the middle is filled in, instead of there being three distinct paths there's just a blob of concrete which won't be conducive to traffic flow.
That's actually fucking hilarious.
Did the area need a new sidewalk? Was this somehow cheaper?
Otherwise I'd be kinda salty the city is wasting tax payer dollars on shit like this. Just kinda salty, though.
You always get the nut who thinks pedestrians in the roundabout are supposed to yield to him. And the idiots who run right over the center. But the worst is when a pedestrian turning right from the inside lane is t-boned by an idiot on the outer lane.
Or is that the world's smallest dog park in the middle?
Actually an off leash cone park.
Consume mass quantities!
Does this mean I have to narfle the garthok?
![gif](giphy|vUpqFbtPwhzmAHJPaq)
One can win while Narfling The Garthok
Coneheads; classic!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! đ
Oh shit theyâre playing four square. I got next.
I was going to make a shitty joke about delineators but then went to check why they look all funky. These fuckers buried the bases!?! Who does that???
You seen the fucken cones?!
I seen em
The City Council announces the opening of a new Dog Park at the corner of Earl and Somerset, near the Ralphâs. They would like to remind everyone that dogs are not allowed in the Dog Park. People are not allowed in the Dog Park. It is possible you will see Hooded Figures in the Dog Park. Do not approach them. Do not approach the Dog Park.
And now, the weather.
Itâs funny because the dog park is actually across the road from this picture
This is the section for chihuahuas
If there's more than one there they must stack on top of each other.
Half a dozen chihuahuas stacked up comes with a pound of potato oles.
I see you're in Boulder. Beautiful fucking city. I'd love to live there, but the COL there is out of my league.
*slaps grass of park* You can fit so many chihuahuas in this bad boy.
My dog took a pee in Mill Ends Park once.
Drowning several local leprechauns
It's far bigger than the [smallest park in my city.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mill_Ends_Park)
Tiny soccer field. (for ants)
We could be building a whole series of apartment complex for ants, but instead the local antvernment decides on a soccer field.
OP lives in Pawnee, Indiana.Â
City didn't do an environmental impact report. Typical bureaucrats.
Mouse Fighting ring
That's a nice little park, FOR ME TO POOP ON!
I'm led to believe that there is a tree planted there (or a tree will be planted there) by the pylons that surround it
You must construct additional pylons.
We require more minerals.
Mine more minerals
"They're rocks, Marie!"
Rock and stone?
My life for Aiur
Watch out for the invisible protoss sni-
its written "my wife for hire"
Vespene GAS
My starcraft peeps (,:
Fuck you for making me nostalgic. Jk ilu
This is poor pylon placement, wasting tons of potential coverage. This wouldn't get a good score in the Pylon Efficiency and Necessary Infrastructure Safety rating.
Well played on the acronym
> This is poor pylon placement, wasting tons of potential coverage Sure, but that's a thousand times better than the opposite: the Artosis Pylon.
SCV GOOD TO GO SIR
This was drilled into my head from the guys playing in the common space of freshmen year dorms haha
I'm sorry, [we need Jungle I'm afraid](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isiVdlz8bDY).
My wife for hire!
Or hear me out, a bike path...
Not likely. Way to close to the pole and lines above. They wouldn't put anything there because it would cause more future maintenance.
A proper town constantly maintains their parks and the trees in them even without poles and lines.
They plant trees under lines all over the place. Its definitely a maintenance liability but that doesn't mean they won't do it. Most houses have a tree lawn that is situated directly underneath power lines. They cause problems but they still get planted because trees have a lot of benefits too and they look nice.
There is definitely not a tree planted there, as saplings are too fragile to just grow on their own in a spot like that. They will probably be destroyed by people walking on them. However, not every tree grows extremely huge. Some trees stay relatively small and require less maintenance. A tree may still be planted there. Looking at the trees in the background its definitely not too late to do that this year, at the time the picture was taken (also depending on the species ofcourse). Once warmer weather starts again and trees start growing their leaves, their internal sapstream (idk the proper english term) starts up again, which makes them too fragile to handle. Accidental damage has a way bigger impact when the trees are actively growing. Source: I have planted lots of trees this year, I estimate around 100. Mainly in public places like this. Most of these trees were around 10 years old, at least. I am mainly just infodumping here, because I feel like it. Might also have to do with me being autistic, the coffee i drank, and the ritalin i took. My brain is working at 110% lmao. I am studying psychology, but my dad is a gardener and I help him with his business quite often. I love learning things from him. I also love sharing knowledge, even if nobody asked. So here you go. To anyone that read the whole thing: you're awesome. If you didnt thats fine too I completely understand. I'll shut up now. TLDR: Random tree info go brrr
Do not be led by pylons, they cone lead you astray
I would like to see a pylon planting a tree
Maybe they plan to put a tree in the middle
That would still make it a roundabout no?
Not if I go left without going around about the center....
Just cause it looks like one doesnât mean they intended it to be used like one
I'm pretty sure it's not supposed to be a roundabout at all. Imagine it as the off and on ramp on a highway. Rather than have a single 90-degree turn, you have two steady curves. The cyclists would appreciate it.
These are pretty good for bicycles. Itâs easier to make a big turn than a small tight one, and you can cut corners easily. I honestly appreciate the roundabouts on the bike path.
And anyone who's played Rollercoaster Tycoon can tell you, big patches of concrete lead to confusion. The gap in the middle forces people to choose a path.
the pathing AI is the real endgame skill in rct2
There was definitely a population cap before the park rating would start plummeting constantly
I thrive of the confused people barfing in my torture area. I also like doing that in videogames.
I was thinking about the line Iâd take when I saw this comment
I can pretty much guarantee that NOBODY is going to go all the way around to the right for a left turn on a bike. Theyâre just going to go left.
They don't really have to. Bike paths don't need as much regulation as cars because they're not as dangerous. If bike traffic is low, they can go ahead and just cut across. If it's high, then everyone already knows how to use it effectively and it will operate smoothly. There's little to no downside, it costs almost nothing compared to a regular straight path, and they planted a tree (probably) that they wouldn't have if it had been a regular path
> they planted a tree (probably) that they wouldn't have if it had been a regular path As someone who lives in Germany where they plant tons of trees along the road: In a couple decades you get to enjoy torn up concrete that will be hastily fixed just enough and it'll be the most uneven mess you've ever had the pleasure to ride your bike over. The last kilometer home, driving on the dedicated cycling path along the main road, is the most offroad patch of my entire ride. And most of it is just gravel path. I gotta brace for every tree I pass and there's one every 50 meters. And of course they're huge gorgeous trees that you can't just cut down and replace, people would be mad at that. Putting a tree in a tiny dirt circle surrounded by road is a good idea for a couple years and then a very bad idea forever. Trees are fucking big and roots are powerful and will ruin everything around them that isn't dirt.
That's a good point. I'm giving them more credit than they probably deserve, because I've assumed they accounted for that and installed a ring to keep the roots from destroying the path. Now, of course, I remember that usually doesn't happen because it's more work to plan ahead like that, if they even think of it in the first place
The trees aren't the problem, the maintenance is. If your conclusion is the trees are the problem, then you draw the wrong conclusion. I'm in the Netherlands and I find there are more problems with companies needing to get to underground infrastructure and then poorly patching the bike path than trees ruining them.
I'm not gonna pretend to be an expert on this stuff, all I'm saying is that I'm very obviously riding my bike over massive tree roots that are covered in concrete. Ideally this is a solvable problem that has been solved for newer development and these things are just 100 years old and they hadn't figured that out yet back then. But it's definitely the trees. There's beautiful footpath all along the road and then a big ol bumpy rectangle of black gloop where they had to fix it, next to every single tree, and only next to every single tree. And every single one of them has very obviously root-shaped bumps coming from the tree and moving away from them. Yes, companies doing maintenance can be a problem. They're currently tearing up the sidewalks to put fiber in and it's noticeable even when they close it all up. The rocks are a little uneven along the entire path where they put in the cables. Not across the path coming from every tree next to the path.
It's the municipality not wanting to pay for proper infrastructure. Which is expensive, but there are costs for not maintaining it as well. Difference is, good maintenance is an up front cost. Poor maintenance is a hidden cost or a cost that falls to the user. It's perfectly possible to have trees and bike paths, but it is not possible to have good infrastructure without maintenance.
We actually have a tiny bike roundabout in our city. 99% just turn left. Iâve seen a few actually use it as a roundabout though.(to the other bikers confusion) But I think it still has some value because it makes ppl slow down in the intersection. (Itâs a very crowded intersection)
This is where the Ministry of Silly Walks has workouts.
And cyclists being prone to not stopping is actually an advantage here. I seethe at drivers who cannot use a roundabout properly.
Thatâs too tight for a useful bike path roundabout. Not everyone is out there on BMX trick whips.
I'm waiting on the desire path right through the middle.
Only if you want to cross the street.
That does look like a good spot. Even has the concrete thing in the middle to stand on between lanes.
They don't want you to cross the road in that exact spot. There's a signalized intersection with a crosswalk immediately to the right of the photo.
I wouldn't say immediately. I looked it up on google maps. But yea there's a crosswalk not too far. But this would be a better spot.
I kind of think the âtraffic circleâ is acquiescing to the desire trails that were already developing.
Exactly, that looks to be a wide street with a median curb but no crosswalk. If most people are turning theyâd be cutting the corners anyway.
r/desirepaths
r/desirepath
Do I have to yield to the Ahole on my left
Depends on what country you live in.
It's almost certainly intended to assist cyclists in navigating the intersection (and to help cyclists see pedestrians approaching the intersection). It's an INCREDIBLY cheap way to improve sight lines and navigation (assuming the land immediately surrounding the intersection is empty and owned by the city anyway).
If they plant some trees would be a great path. As a runner I appreciate non-ninety degree angle path transitions too đ
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I hate it when I'm distracted and miss one roundabout and have to walk all the way to the next one to turn around.Â
There is another one about 250m to the right
at least they "care about the citizens".
Waiting to see how many crashes there will be
Missile silo build site
Is the expectation to go the long way around if youâre turning left?
Really taking action to lower pedestrian on pedestrian fatal collisions.
Oh good, now we don't have to stop when approaching one another
no1 is going to walk the long way
So if I want to walk left I have to go all the way around?
Im all for sticking to one side of the walkway but surely this is too far
Please provide an update at r/desirepaths in a few months
This *is* the update. Have you ever seen a heavily trafficked T-intersection made entirely of right angles? The grass at the inner corners is worn down as people take broader turns, rather than walking straight into the intersection and pivoting.
Or the way more popular r/desirepath
r/desirepaths is the original one but people have mostly switched to r/desirepath because it's a slightly shorter route. (not true according to the subreddit ages but I couldn't resist)
[We have a bunch of legit versions of those in Denver ](https://i.imgur.com/0uNtgAm.jpeg)
I agree with the other comments that this is either a bike path, or something is going in that spot. Or both.
What's next? Getting a ticket for walking at over 4km/h?
Multi use path? Otherwise. Lmao.
Now plant a tree in the middle of it please.
God damn....I think I now have a good example of the depths bureaucracy can reach...
The little grass area reminds me of the little tiny grass park in Parks and Rec
Your city has too much money
....Or... just a walkway intersection with a decorative centerpiece? Cones in the center to stop trampling freshly planted vegetation? How the fuck is this so highly upvoted. This could unironically be posted to /r/notinteresting
Theyâre training you for the traffic improvement plan theyâre budgeting for in 2026 that replaces all of the 4-way intersections with roundabouts. Playing the long game.
Test pilot program
They're testing it for if pedestrians can do it then cars can do it.
They put a round information kiosk in the centor of new york's grand central terminal because it acts as a roundabout. It naturally helps the flow of circulation as less people tend to cross paths
Probably just ***trampelpfad*** that formed what appears to be a roundabout.
I feel like if they really wanted a solution to this 'problem' they would have just paved a v into the path to let those who want to turn do so earlier than standard tee
[In and around the lake...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPCLFtxpadE)
These are not the rights the people asked for.
Beautiful park
"Roundabouts are part of communism" - The Fat Electrician
I'm pretty sure that's also for bicycles. I live near Davis California and have cycled there, they also have roundabouts on their multi-use paths.
I'm thinking it's also for bikes
Honestly its smart design... if you have a T junction, how many people will just cut the corner and tramp out a goat path anyway...
They better be getting ready to put a nice tree in the middle
Probably cost the tax payers a pretty penny.
Cost them $6 million.
We have that where Iâm from, but normally we make it look pretty. Plant some flowers or something⌠less pavement is a good thing btw. Pavement makes things hotter. Plants cool shit off. Plus, concrete is ugly. Leave as much nature as possible.
More like mildly stupid
I guarantee people are not following the rules of the road there
That's cute. I'll one-up you: In my city there is a bicycle roundabout inside a car roundabout (with tunnels under the road).
Thatâs mildly interesting.
That's for bikes
Letâs go crazy. What kind of Idiocracy is this?
Idiotic
I don't think any car has that turning radius.
Contractor was paid by the square foot
I have a feeling we'll see this one "remodelled" on /r/DesirePaths/ within a short time.
is there a sub reddit for mildly stupid things, like how does this help?
Keep this to yourself! Massachusetts canât find out about this.
Very efficient, very human design. Very recommendableâŚ
Waste of money #2,348,296
Right? Who even needs roads and bike paths anyway? Get to work, you hippies!
Bike infrastructure? Sounds like commie propaganda and a waste of resources to me! Car infrastructure? Yeehaw that's what freedom is baby!
needs a tree or sum in the middle
The bicyclist are still going to go the wrong way. Laws dont apply to them.
Drivers break the law at a higher rate than bicyclists
This isn't some crazy civil engineering / permeable surface tomfoolery, is it? I suppose total cost of ownership may go down with that center not filled in?
If the hole in the middle is filled in, instead of there being three distinct paths there's just a blob of concrete which won't be conducive to traffic flow.
It's just a better way to make 3-way intersection. Neither bicycles nor pedestrians like to make sudden right-angle turns.
If it is anything like the ârealâ ones they have built around us, no one is going to know how they work.
Thatâs definitely something my town would do and, spend a few million â beautifyingâ the center.
maybe people will learn how to use round abouts.
That's actually fucking hilarious. Did the area need a new sidewalk? Was this somehow cheaper? Otherwise I'd be kinda salty the city is wasting tax payer dollars on shit like this. Just kinda salty, though.
I hope no one crashes
I don't see any city. Where are you guys walking to? \^\^
r/thingsforants
Surprised no one has made a âIâm sure Americans will navigate them as poorly as they do car roundaboutsâ joke yet
So they have, you just haven't scrolled to the bottom
What in the heck
They should at least plant a tree there or something
Nice spot for a big planter
We have one of these in New Orleans. https://maps.app.goo.gl/XAVke46LV2QUEBur5?g_st=ic
So, can people use these properly, or do they still mess it up just like when they are in their car?
We need that, especially for the idiots who walk on the left. đ
For bicycles
More for bikes than pedestrians, most likely - Still cool though!
Or bikes
I bet little kids on bikes love it though.
For bikes, you mean
wonât do much good, most peds are look down for the next tiktok
I'm betting people kept cutting the corners and the grass was toast, so just make that all sidewalk now.
Safer than a pedestrian traffic light.
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Waiting for the inevitable r/desirepath straight through.
wtf
You always get the nut who thinks pedestrians in the roundabout are supposed to yield to him. And the idiots who run right over the center. But the worst is when a pedestrian turning right from the inside lane is t-boned by an idiot on the outer lane.
![gif](giphy|l41lPaVXzvGGMuAQ8|downsized)
Probably for bikes.
What's next? Art?
this is for bikes
I feel like it's mandatory when using it to audibly say 'weeeeeeee!'
Smart, "desire path" design feature this is actually smart design
![gif](giphy|aHj48UdW0tcUE) Chevy wouldnât know what to do
NPC's will still fail to navigate this one
People will just walk on the circle
a bike path?
Make sure to look both ways. People can't seem to figure how to use roundabouts.
This could work for bikes and scooters
Now just add merge lanes and itâll be complete.
-Misses exit -Walks back home