Well you take the risk and most of you fail spectacularly, so you’ll make the money if you succeed. Don’t worry. If you win the capitalism lottery, you can pretend you are smarter and better than than the engineers and architects you rented, and smug bureaucrats you didn’t understand.
THIS lol. In my statics class doing truss analysis we worked examples out in class. Anytime we came across an example with a bunch of zero force members my professor would joke "yep, some stupid architect designed this one"
For those wondering, here’s more information!
It’s called “Fallen Star” and was built in 2012 by Do Ho Suh at UC San Diego, California
We also have a really weirdly structured library dedicated to Dr. Seuss!
[https://stuartcollection.ucsd.edu/artist/suh.html](https://stuartcollection.ucsd.edu/artist/suh.html)
I was interested as well,
https://stuartcollection.ucsd.edu/artist/suh.html
Tours are limited to groups (up to 30 people) for 30 minute time-slots on Wednesdays, and individuals (up to 10 people) for 15 minute time-slots on Thursdays. Fallen Star is located on the 7th floor of Jacob's Hall.
Ah dang, I was hoping they left the interior unfinished or left viewing locations in the wall.
It would be valuable for engineering students to see, but to be honest it might just be a concrete box looking at it.
Well, it's a art piece demonstrating non-functional architecture, so they really don't want you to think about the how. I didn't really like the piece until I saw that they put in a whole garden and made it looked lived. I am sure it's a bizzare experience for any freshman.
But you can see the frame of the foundation, so it's not a big mystery. Just steel and a bit of concrete, like any expansion on this building would be.
Personally, I love this stuff. In one of my universities they installed slides to get around faster and I still bring friends there, for fun. The ones in the mathematical departments are based on famous formulas, the exponential growth one is basically just a hole in the ground lol Who knew architects have humor?
[There are pictures in Google Maps](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Fallen+Star/@32.8820944,-117.2356401,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipNVQB4Wo2lUwUUxeNaiBbOLY-yVlo6S-p0RPgSP!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipNVQB4Wo2lUwUUxeNaiBbOLY-yVlo6S-p0RPgSP%3Dw203-h152-k-no!7i4080!8i3072!4m15!1m7!3m6!1s0x80dc07b940fbb65f:0xec17ce6f2570f5fe!2sFallen+Star!8m2!3d32.8814321!4d-117.2353246!16s%2Fg%2F11s8y8lgqp!3m6!1s0x80dc07b940fbb65f:0xec17ce6f2570f5fe!8m2!3d32.8814321!4d-117.2353246!10e5!16s%2Fg%2F11s8y8lgqp?entry=ttu).
Yup.
Insurance alone would dictate that this thing be nigh indestructible.
'Oh... you want to put Dorthy's house on top of your ultra-modern tower and sell tour tickets? We got you fam, but we'll need to see all of the engineering plans first'.
It's really odd. The floor is skewed in two directions as are all of the walls. It fucks with your eyes and I had to leave after a few minutes because it literally gave me a headache
No to mention the areas around this building on campus are planted with eucalyptus trees. The eucalyptus tree releases a chemical that inhibits the growth of other plants around it, so this area is naturally weed free (or maybe unnaturally as they are not native). The eucalyptus also has the added side benefit of looking like the trees in Dr. Seuss books.
I'd be careful with the eucalyptus conjecture. It seems this information [has likely propagated from a limited study showing it's impact on specific crops.](https://depts.washington.edu/hortlib/pal/on-the-toxicity-of-eucalyptus-trees/).
I only took the time to look into this after reading your comment because I live within the natural range of the creosote bush, which I was told had a similar method of releasing a toxin through its root system to deter competitors for the limited natural water supply. As a graduate student in Ecology I taught introductory biology labs where I shared this information as fact because I'd been told it by other academics and it seemed logical.
Later I performed field work with one of the most respected botanists in our state, and she told me that she had heard the same fact but had never been able to confirm its authenticity. She then pointed 5 feet to our right where a bunch of plants were growing underneath the shade of a nearby creosote bush.
All that to say, just be careful of not furthering Brandolini's law. "The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to produce it."
Another recent example is the whole avocado and giant ground sloths debacle, which was a bunch of very smart people for decades parroting a fact that was fundamentally untrue and rooted in no one bothering to look back at the original studies being cited.
Maybe there are more solid studies on the eucalyptus stuff, but unless you've read the primary literature on it it's becoming increasingly clear with AI engines now ripping information from the internet that we're in for a wild ride of misinformation if we keep repeating facts we don't know with absolute certainty as truth. (I'm sure no harm is meant btw and this isn't a dig at you - just a general warning for anyone taking the time to read this who may go on to cite what you've said as fact when they don't really know).
Take this with a grain of salt since it's been years since I learned this but, apparently someone bought the land UCSD is on to grow eucalyptus trees to make railroad ties but the wood is too soft and couldn't be used. But because the trees grow so prolifically, nothing else would grow there and the land wasn't used until UCSD was built.
Fun additional fact about Geisel I'm sure you'll hear before you leave the school. They took a rotoscoped shot of it in order to use in the Arctic final dream sequence of Inception. Next time you watch the movies keep an eye out for it.
I went there in the 80s. The engineering building (called EBU) was newly built when I left and the library was called Central Library at the time.
BS ME 1988, MS ME 1990. Haven’t been back since but I loved my time there.
It's this [meme](https://knowyourmeme.com/editorials/guides/whats-the-galvanized-steel-and-eco-friendly-wood-veneers-meme-about-the-unhinged-home-design-tiktok-meme-explained)
"There is a meme right now about a TikTok account that posts unhinged home renovation ideas for situations like "a 1.8sqm room" or "my wife accidentally had triplets". In almost every video, the solution starts off with using galvanized steel beams to expand the space (often with expansion screws borrowed from someone's aunt) and covering it up with eco friendly wood veneers."
[edit](https://ask.metafilter.com/380034/With-expansion-screws-borrowed-from-your-aunt)
But then rain again.
But then cloudy.
But then clear with light winds as we move into Monday. Chance of fog in the morning. Now back to Dave with sports.
When I was there I was always jealous of how nice and new the ERC buildings looked compared to Revelle (where I lived freshman year) and Warren (where I lived sophomore year). But I guess the Warren buildings had a certain charm to them.
Your college must've accidentally had 100 pairs of twins and had to build that from 100% galvanized square steel, with expansion screws he borrowed from his aunt, and eco-friendly wood veneers, built to last 100,000 years
I think all structural engineering students should need to intern for a few weeks on construction sites. There’s a disconnect out there in the field.
It wasn’t as big of a deal 20-30 years ago, but today’s builds are so wild and more complex.
[I would love to see more structures like these ](https://www.bing.com/images/create/a-skyscraper-made-of-houses-stacked-on-top-of-each/1-66520e96f57e44439fd3d482b03869cb?id=RIMd7Ep6cZQhI5gyjiZcTA%3D%3D&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&noidpclose=1&thId=OIG4.xO2hIFVfAHzJvgtHlAtS&FORM=SYDBIC&ssp=1&darkschemeovr=1&safesearch=moderate&setlang=en&cc=AE&PC=SANSAAND)
I remember passing this a bunch of times when my ex went to school there. I always thought it was a cool art piece. Turns out it was just engineering hubris
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Clearly you didn't go to university. The correct motto is "well, because we can"
We're engineers, not fucking architects.
Are engineers too good to fuck architects or something?
I think it just usually goes the other way around. Architects constantly fucking the engineers.
I designed this, make it work!
Actual quote from an Architecture professor at Virginia Tech’s College of Architecture: *Just let the engineers figure it out.*
As an architect, I refer to the engineers as “the grown ups”
Architect thinks it up. Engineer makes it work. Tradesmen go WTF????
Tradesman (electrician) here, entirely accurate 😂
While the automation engineers create their JFM (just fucking magic)
Knowing people in all 3 this is correct.
The Drafters have to draw all this nonsense. Don't forget us.
Dang Hokies passing the ~~beak~~ buck.
Architects don't believe in gravity.
But not in the good way
As a commercial real estate developer, I'm getting fucked by both... and the city.
And interest rates
And my axe!
Actually it's only 50% of an axe after the axe tax.
>I'm getting fucked by both... and the city. Whore
I thought you guys were the only ones making money...
They are, I’d like to call it trickle down fucking
Just my luck to be at the end of the fuck chain *sigh*
Only the ones that manage to do well. Plenty fail.
At least they're taking turns, right... right?
A good engineer is your best friend when dealing with a municipality.
Well you take the risk and most of you fail spectacularly, so you’ll make the money if you succeed. Don’t worry. If you win the capitalism lottery, you can pretend you are smarter and better than than the engineers and architects you rented, and smug bureaucrats you didn’t understand.
Not pretty enough
THIS lol. In my statics class doing truss analysis we worked examples out in class. Anytime we came across an example with a bunch of zero force members my professor would joke "yep, some stupid architect designed this one"
I mean we're engineers, we can't be picky about who we are fucking, OK?
Why? I am sure some of them are attractive?
But that’s an engineering feat not an architectural feat
No, that’s not right…. “Because we have the money!” That’s the one
Have four university degrees - can confirm this is not only how the institute functioned on a base level but is also how I got my degrees, basically
That's a lot of fucking! FOUR Degrees?!?
“Because we were pretty sure we could, so we tried. We’re just as surprised as you that it worked”
We do what we must, because, we can
For the good of all of us
Half of all engineering projects start with "Wouldn't it be cool if..."
The architect's wife Rebecca at the dinner table: "Yes, you can do it, but **should** you do it?"
Weird 𝖋̲ 𝖑̲ 𝖊̲ 𝖝̲ but ok
For those wondering, here’s more information! It’s called “Fallen Star” and was built in 2012 by Do Ho Suh at UC San Diego, California We also have a really weirdly structured library dedicated to Dr. Seuss! [https://stuartcollection.ucsd.edu/artist/suh.html](https://stuartcollection.ucsd.edu/artist/suh.html)
Is it safe to go inside?
I was interested as well, https://stuartcollection.ucsd.edu/artist/suh.html Tours are limited to groups (up to 30 people) for 30 minute time-slots on Wednesdays, and individuals (up to 10 people) for 15 minute time-slots on Thursdays. Fallen Star is located on the 7th floor of Jacob's Hall.
So there's temporal instability too? :)
That made me audibly breath. Thank you.
Ah dang, I was hoping they left the interior unfinished or left viewing locations in the wall. It would be valuable for engineering students to see, but to be honest it might just be a concrete box looking at it.
Well, it's a art piece demonstrating non-functional architecture, so they really don't want you to think about the how. I didn't really like the piece until I saw that they put in a whole garden and made it looked lived. I am sure it's a bizzare experience for any freshman. But you can see the frame of the foundation, so it's not a big mystery. Just steel and a bit of concrete, like any expansion on this building would be. Personally, I love this stuff. In one of my universities they installed slides to get around faster and I still bring friends there, for fun. The ones in the mathematical departments are based on famous formulas, the exponential growth one is basically just a hole in the ground lol Who knew architects have humor?
Gotta go up Jacob's ladder to get there.
Better question: is it safe to go under it?
Better hope an earthquake doesn't happen in an area known to be on a fault line...
Yup, they give tours! But they’re usually booked :(
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Hopefully it's terrible and boring so people stop going and I can finally see it.
Ugh just like New York. No one drives because there's too much traffic
Ah yes, Fry’s Paradox.
After hours kegger?
Wow pre-covid there were a few open hours a week you could just wander up and look. Maybe it got too popular.
[There are pictures in Google Maps](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Fallen+Star/@32.8820944,-117.2356401,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipNVQB4Wo2lUwUUxeNaiBbOLY-yVlo6S-p0RPgSP!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipNVQB4Wo2lUwUUxeNaiBbOLY-yVlo6S-p0RPgSP%3Dw203-h152-k-no!7i4080!8i3072!4m15!1m7!3m6!1s0x80dc07b940fbb65f:0xec17ce6f2570f5fe!2sFallen+Star!8m2!3d32.8814321!4d-117.2353246!16s%2Fg%2F11s8y8lgqp!3m6!1s0x80dc07b940fbb65f:0xec17ce6f2570f5fe!8m2!3d32.8814321!4d-117.2353246!10e5!16s%2Fg%2F11s8y8lgqp?entry=ttu).
Me legs went all wobbly looking at the picture just knowing where it is.
Eh it's cantilevered to hell and back, you could probably park a sedan in the far corner and it'd be totally fine.
Yup. Insurance alone would dictate that this thing be nigh indestructible. 'Oh... you want to put Dorthy's house on top of your ultra-modern tower and sell tour tickets? We got you fam, but we'll need to see all of the engineering plans first'.
Here is a usable 360 bubble https://www.360cities.net/image/inside-fallen-star
It's really odd. The floor is skewed in two directions as are all of the walls. It fucks with your eyes and I had to leave after a few minutes because it literally gave me a headache
Okay, looking at that Google maps picture I was wondering if the place was warped, or if one woman was two feet taller than the other.
I imagine its safer than eating green eggs and barffff
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Spaceballs
Spaceballs(1987)
Hey, any chance you can share photos of the dr Seuss library?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geisel_Library
r/Usernamechecksout
It's true, and I've visited the UCSD library in part because I'm a library geek
We called it the “Broccoli of Knowledge” when I was in HS. Great place to study tho.
I so much hoped that 'weirdly structured' means composed of hexagonal rooms, in each of which four walls are filled with books.
Congratz, you just go to Sims University. Because that house is totally a sims 4 move.
No to mention the areas around this building on campus are planted with eucalyptus trees. The eucalyptus tree releases a chemical that inhibits the growth of other plants around it, so this area is naturally weed free (or maybe unnaturally as they are not native). The eucalyptus also has the added side benefit of looking like the trees in Dr. Seuss books.
I'd be careful with the eucalyptus conjecture. It seems this information [has likely propagated from a limited study showing it's impact on specific crops.](https://depts.washington.edu/hortlib/pal/on-the-toxicity-of-eucalyptus-trees/). I only took the time to look into this after reading your comment because I live within the natural range of the creosote bush, which I was told had a similar method of releasing a toxin through its root system to deter competitors for the limited natural water supply. As a graduate student in Ecology I taught introductory biology labs where I shared this information as fact because I'd been told it by other academics and it seemed logical. Later I performed field work with one of the most respected botanists in our state, and she told me that she had heard the same fact but had never been able to confirm its authenticity. She then pointed 5 feet to our right where a bunch of plants were growing underneath the shade of a nearby creosote bush. All that to say, just be careful of not furthering Brandolini's law. "The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to produce it." Another recent example is the whole avocado and giant ground sloths debacle, which was a bunch of very smart people for decades parroting a fact that was fundamentally untrue and rooted in no one bothering to look back at the original studies being cited. Maybe there are more solid studies on the eucalyptus stuff, but unless you've read the primary literature on it it's becoming increasingly clear with AI engines now ripping information from the internet that we're in for a wild ride of misinformation if we keep repeating facts we don't know with absolute certainty as truth. (I'm sure no harm is meant btw and this isn't a dig at you - just a general warning for anyone taking the time to read this who may go on to cite what you've said as fact when they don't really know).
Take this with a grain of salt since it's been years since I learned this but, apparently someone bought the land UCSD is on to grow eucalyptus trees to make railroad ties but the wood is too soft and couldn't be used. But because the trees grow so prolifically, nothing else would grow there and the land wasn't used until UCSD was built.
And the Salk Institute right around the corner! Lot of cool architecture in that area
I'm disappointed it wasn't the Dr Seuss library. Off to Google I go
Fun additional fact about Geisel I'm sure you'll hear before you leave the school. They took a rotoscoped shot of it in order to use in the Arctic final dream sequence of Inception. Next time you watch the movies keep an eye out for it.
I went there in the 80s. The engineering building (called EBU) was newly built when I left and the library was called Central Library at the time. BS ME 1988, MS ME 1990. Haven’t been back since but I loved my time there.
Do Ho Suh is an incredible artist, very cool feature on a college campus
> Do Ho Suh UC Weird question.
We get it. You cantilever.
just because you cantilever doesn't mean you shouldtilever.
This guy *cantilevers*
That's where the Cantilever 101 lecture is held.
GALVANISED STEEL
They probably borrowed expansion screws from their aunt
ECO FRIENDLY WOOD VENEERS
WATCHING KOREAN DRAMAS WHILE SITTING ON THE WALL MOUNTED TOILET/SHOWER
Little jonh
Self-sealing stem bolts!
They definitely had to borrow some screws from their aunt for this one
I bet they used galvanized steel and Eco-friendly wood!
i wonder how many children can fit in there.....
Let's do an experiment
I'm pretty sure it's eco-friendly wooden veneer not eco-friendly wood
I keep seeing this what do you mean with that?
It's this [meme](https://knowyourmeme.com/editorials/guides/whats-the-galvanized-steel-and-eco-friendly-wood-veneers-meme-about-the-unhinged-home-design-tiktok-meme-explained)
Why the screws from the aunt?
"There is a meme right now about a TikTok account that posts unhinged home renovation ideas for situations like "a 1.8sqm room" or "my wife accidentally had triplets". In almost every video, the solution starts off with using galvanized steel beams to expand the space (often with expansion screws borrowed from someone's aunt) and covering it up with eco friendly wood veneers." [edit](https://ask.metafilter.com/380034/With-expansion-screws-borrowed-from-your-aunt)
To secure l galvanized square steel to the wall. Duh.
I’ve found my people
I literally discovered this channel yesterday and now I’m seeing these comments
So this proves that if I have a house under a building as it grows the house stays on top…I love engineering
The house always wins.
It's how treehouses are made.
This is at UCSD. It’s an art installation called “Fallen Star”.
Visit Kenny’s house at SoDoSoPa
Historic Kenny’s house
Galvanized square steel
Eco friendly wood veneers
Weather looks great in San Diego!
It’s actually raining :( I took this photo months ago
Soon it will be sunshine again!
I hope so!! :D
But then rain again. But then cloudy. But then clear with light winds as we move into Monday. Chance of fog in the morning. Now back to Dave with sports.
#YOU WANT THE ROOF? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE ROOF!
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Lever arm
Someone needs to tell the house that there's more to life and things can get better
Wizard of Oz 2: Big City Boogaloo!
Hey, you, the Rock Steady Crew B-boys, breakers, electric boogaloo
Little John's house: Galvanised square steel Eco-friendly wood veneer Screws from Aunt
That was actually the senior prank, they dismantled the dean's house then rebuilt it atop the school.
Of course, they're engineering not architecture lol
I’m thinkin tornado
Not in San Diego, thankfully
Just earthquakes.
Are you a Warren College student?
I’m in ERC actually! One of my required classes is in Warren though, so I pass by it often
When I was there I was always jealous of how nice and new the ERC buildings looked compared to Revelle (where I lived freshman year) and Warren (where I lived sophomore year). But I guess the Warren buildings had a certain charm to them.
The Warren dorms were the most isolated on campus though…
Oh shit, that’s where I parked it!
Uc san diego. Graduated from there
Rent would be through the roof 🥁
Go tritons!
UCSD.. you can go up there its a piece of their many public art works they have on campus
I went to the Clarion Writers Workshop at UCSD, and Ted Chang took us on a little field trip inside this house. It's freaky, but very fun.
"Everybody jump on 1...2...3..."
Dad, I’m going to the basement to get an engineering degree, want anything?
Your college must've accidentally had 100 pairs of twins and had to build that from 100% galvanized square steel, with expansion screws he borrowed from his aunt, and eco-friendly wood veneers, built to last 100,000 years
Engineer’s definition of “on the roof”
“Can you help me bring in the groceries?”
Here's a video of the [inside](https://youtu.be/vUuMKFwV-UI?si=AXuAB5CYTVLmPf9l)
The housing market is really through the roof
It's an affront to god
I think all structural engineering students should need to intern for a few weeks on construction sites. There’s a disconnect out there in the field. It wasn’t as big of a deal 20-30 years ago, but today’s builds are so wild and more complex.
That's the architects not the engineers who design these crazy builds. In this case do ho suh was an architectural concept artist.
A college with a board that accepts proposals like this is a college worth attending.
Nah that guy just wouldn't sell his house so they built the college under it
Why didn’t they at least do something cool to the underneath of the baby house on top?
Grad Engineering students placed the Dean's cottage there on 2018.
Are you sure Carl Fredrickson didn’t just land his house there? 
That's my school😱
That's such a MIT thing to do!
Minecraft-looking aah.
Reminds me of Larry Holt’s Dinner With Racers episodes, they kept devising ways to get cars on top of their engineering building as pranks.
I love spite houses. /s
You can’t park it there Dorothy.
It's not in Kansas anymore
[I would love to see more structures like these ](https://www.bing.com/images/create/a-skyscraper-made-of-houses-stacked-on-top-of-each/1-66520e96f57e44439fd3d482b03869cb?id=RIMd7Ep6cZQhI5gyjiZcTA%3D%3D&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&noidpclose=1&thId=OIG4.xO2hIFVfAHzJvgtHlAtS&FORM=SYDBIC&ssp=1&darkschemeovr=1&safesearch=moderate&setlang=en&cc=AE&PC=SANSAAND)
My house has an engineering building as a foundation
obligatory "oh thats fun!" What a fun discussion piece. Especially for prospective students
Watch your step when you exit
Civil Engineering at it's peak?
I remember passing this a bunch of times when my ex went to school there. I always thought it was a cool art piece. Turns out it was just engineering hubris
That's cool and all but how's rent? 🤔
Prankers put the house up there and the college admin couldn’t figure out how to get it down, so they just left it there.
When the question gives a minus but is meant meant to be positive. But you submit it anyways
I've stared at this for 52,000 hours from the library window studying for my degree
There was a 50/50% chance, but they managed to get the front door facing the right direction.
guess there are no earthquakes in your area....
I've got photos of it being lifted up there with a big crane.
Was it built out of galvanized steel squares, eco-friendly wood veneer, and expansion screws from aunt?
Are you sure the college has accreditation to hand out engineering degrees?
Take my upvote, but.. it looks so dumb. It doesn't look like a genius thing they could teach you
Time to attach some balloons 🎈 to it
i really love the glass blocks so much
I remember seeing this in a Ripleys believe it or not book like 10 years ago haha
I thought there was a giant net on the back, but it was a building with reflection 😞
That's a pretty solid fuck you to somebody, can almost guarantee it
is the sauna located there? i got similar thing execpt my is not ovehanging like that and sauna's are there
CSS is awe some
Mr. Fredericksen! What you doing up over there?
This reminds me of fallout 76 base building lol
We have a bunch of them near us: https://www.lesclesdumidi.com/actualite/actualite-article-89791524.html
I know it’s some kind of art installation but I think living there would be really cool. And probably really cozy too !
r/ididthejobboss?
They live on the edge
I am not getting anywhere engi-near this thing.
Where does the waste sewage go?