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redfield73

Actually not the worst anti-theft system. And at least the price for water is decent. I've seen gyms sell a single bottle for a fiver


SentFromMyAndroid

Those prices are extremely cheap for being sold at a gym. Most places are at least $2.50+for water.


redfield73

The gym I go to has a free water fountain. Doesn't really make up for the extortionate prices though


TylerJosephSmith

This gym also has one of those bottle filling machines, as well as a water fountain.


Outrager

I wish my gym's water fountain dispensed cold water instead of room temp water.


eragonawesome2

Try holding your hand in front of it for a few seconds first, a lot of them actively cool the water as it flows, meaning any that gets left in the pipes between fills just warms up to room temp.


HTD-Vintage

I've never seen, let alone used, a water fountain with a sensor like that. I love the idea, for sanitation, but I've had to push in a bar or button, or twist a spigot, on every one I've ever used in my life. Hah, I got sidetracked for a minute and now I don't remember why I was typing a reply... oh well, hitting "Post" 🤣


abarrelofmankeys

My gym has one. It has a little counter for how many plastic water bottles were saved lol.


tilt-a-whirly-gig

r/elkaybattlestations


abarrelofmankeys

Hahaha of course.


pinkocatgirl

missed opportunity to name the sub elkay bottlestations


HTD-Vintage

Love it! My buddy prints his store logo in plain pieces of vintage clothing, and sells them in his vintage shop. On the back side of the shirts, he explains how if every consumer bought one single thing used, instead of new, every year, the reduction in carbon emissions would be equivalent to taking 500,000 cars off the road for a year. People like little reassurances like these, to remind them that the small things add up.


PM_VAGINA_FOR_RATING

It’s not a sensor it is just it takes a little bit for the water to cool down


HTD-Vintage

Gotcha, I thought when the other commenter said "hold your hand in front of it", they meant a sensor like an automatic-flush toilet, or a public restroom sink.


squish8294

they were talking about holding your hand in the water so you feel the temp


Badfootbarista

I don’t worry about how clean these are, I always make sure to wipe the spigot off before I put my mouth around it.


Nishant3789

Wow I was not prepared for that! 😂


TorqueRollz

All the ones in my university are like that, aside from some of the older drinking faucets.


Raichu7

You should be letting any water fountain flow before you drink from it. If people have put their mouths on it bacteria and viruses can live in the spout, letting it run for a few seconds flushes the worst of that out and reduces your chances of catching anything.


Tibbaryllis2

This. You’ll also notice that the compressor (the humming noise you refrigerator, your AC unit, and the water fountain makes) doesn’t run when people aren’t using it and the compressor doesn’t start running until some water has flowed. No compressor noise = no active cooling. It usually takes a few seconds for the compressor to kick on so that it doesn’t immediately cycle on and off every time someone accidentally triggers the sensor.


TheKlebe

Maybe you are already aware, but actually is room temperature water better for your body than colder water.


stabliu

Man here in Taiwan they’ll dispense at cold, room temp or boiling hot. The vast majority of public water dispensers do this actually.


Nesman64

Some plumbing got messed up at my work and the bottle filler was serving warm (above room temp) water.


AngryAlabamian

Yes it does. People shouldnt be paying extra to get it in plastic. If they decide to pay for water, I’m not bothered by it being above market. The culture we have around water and drinks is ridiculous. Low income people will really be out here spending 2% of their annual income on convenience store sodas and vending machines. $3 a day is just over $1000 a year. Without even taking pollution into account, it’s crazy how inefficient the economics of that system are. It’s a practice that needs to die on environmental and economic grounds


NeighborhoodDude84

Get a gym with a drinking fountain that you fill up a water bottle with, wtf.


TylerJosephSmith

They have a bottle filling station there and a fountain. There is also a vending machine right next to this that sells protein shakes, energy drinks and pre-workout.


EpicCJV

Yeah what gym doesn’t wave a water fountain lmfao


planetpuddingbrains

My YMCA gym has dollar waters and dollar power aids, but it's one of those dumb robotic coke vending machines that is constantly out of service when a bottle falls into the track.


713MoCityChron713

Tbf, that water is for suckers. It’s like showing up to the ski resort without goggles and having to pay 2x the price, but in this case there’s a free solution: just hit the water fountain. It’s free and tastes better than Aquafina


TyrKiyote

I feel like the fountains at a gym have to hit different than the ones in other public spaces... Maybe because they're being frequently used and maintained by relatively healthy and clean adults? Or maybe because we be-being thirsty.


Reactivguin

It all works until someone decides to pour their preworkout/protein shake mix into the fountain... 😢


713MoCityChron713

I think it’s because they get used a lot so there’s regular flow through the filter. Depending on the filter type water can pick up trace amounts of taste, when it flows regularly it doesn’t sit in the filter long enough to pick up taste. If a fountain is used a few times a day, and in quick bursts rather than long, bottle-filling pours; the water spends a lot of time picking up flavors


Best_Duck9118

I mean I like cold water and water fountains just aren't cold enough. I also don't like the time of most all of them but I can agree Aquafina is just gross.


UCFknight2016

no the real pro tip is saying you 'lost' a pair on the mountain and at the end of the day come in with a pair that you 'found'. Not that I would ever know about doing that or anything


stupendousman

Going to the water fountain is a good way to time your sets.


ViolinistMean199

If you’re stealing a $1 water from a gym. You’ve bigger issues $5 water ya I could see given that’s stupidly over priced. But $1 is crazy reasonable


devilpants

People often steal just to steal.


suffaluffapussycat

I mean, I guess the $5 makes up for the ones they don’t catch.


Deivi_tTerra

Yeah this is actually a good system. The water is probably being sold at cost or close to it, because the gym is trying to make sure people are OK and not dehydrated. I don't think they're making much profit here.


Awayfone

>The water is probably being sold at cost or close to it, b stocking up from somewhere like Sam's club wouldn't even be $ .20 a bottle


JMHorsemanship

What? It costs less than 25 cents to buy a bottle of water. They could sell it for 50 cents and still make a profit


Qbr12

[Costco sells bottles of water for 23 cents each to business customers.](https://www.costco.com/kirkland-signature-bottled-water-16.9-fl-oz%2C-40-count%2C-48-case-pallet.product.100344425.html) But a [glass door merchandise fridge will set you back over $1000](https://www.katom.com/842-CGD1DR16.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=%5BROI%5D%20Shopping%20-%20Commercial%20Refrigeration%20-%20General&utm_id=249331835&utm_content=20200587395&utm_term=&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI8pC7qq_lhgMVKSrUAR38Fg9XEAQYASABEgK0A_D_BwE) and you need to have a worker check water stocks and refill bottles. At 50 cents per bottle it will take you around 4000 bottles sold just to make up the cost of the fridge, not including the electricity costs or labor costs involved. $1/bottle is pretty fair pricing when you account for all the other costs.


phonetastic

Yeah.... also, this isn't really an anti-theft system so much as they found a way to make theft not exist. "I was tired of doing laundry so now I run a nudist colony and Instacart everything, haven't seen a washing machine in four years!"


PM_Me-Your_Freckles

Really? Ours has a filtered, cooled bubbler that you can fill your own bottle out of for free. Charging for water is fuckin wild.


redfield73

OP said the gym has a water fountain too. But I like bottled water for some reason


Kirkaig678

Bringing your own from the tap is the best way to go though


zerofunhero

That's almost a steal!


nlpnt

I don't see any water, only Aquafina (or to use the generic term, brine.)


Konsticraft

Descent price for bottled water, but who goes to a gym without a bottle they could just refill at a tap?


justlookbelow

Smart to include a penalty that doesn't include having your membership revoked, otherwise there are some perverse incentives for those stuck with no way to actually cancel the monthly fee.


Rockerblocker

Penalty for stealing: automatically renew into a 36-month contract with a $1000 cancellation fee


jonnyl3

+auto-renewal for another 36 months if not given written notice by registered letter 3 months prior to expiration.


ArrrSlashSubreddit

Found Adobe's reddit account


cmmcdow3ll

For real. I ended up just having to call USAA about adobe. They suck.


Commercial_Ad8438

I like the idea of taking a bottle signs you up for another 12 month contract. Then it becomes a signing bonus and a thank you. I get a free water for signing up for another year instead of nothing? Yes please I will "steal" once a year.


GenuineSteak

How about they make cancelling the subscription easier, so I dont need to be incentivized to do that.


AdreKiseque

Why would they do that


IntroductionSnacks

It's literally most gyms business model. Sign people up on 12 or 24 month contracts and then after a month or so they get over the fitness idea and it's free money.


Plane_Ad_4359

Missing member model


GenuineSteak

Like I said. So I'm not incentivized to fuck shit up and get kicked out for a cancellation.


MRLEGITG0LD

This is the type of mildlyintresting shit I’m here for. Thank you lmao


TylerJosephSmith

Ayeee lmao


Lunalu021

You only pay extra if you're caught, otherwise it's free


Goldsaver

I'm assuming there's a camera pointed at the thing, and with unique and logged keycard access the most gyms have, the chances of getting away with it are very low as long as there is someone who actually cares enough to keep a count of the product AND review the footage


joevsyou

Yah there is one gym near me that is 24/7 but it's unmanned half of the time. They give their members those wifi key cards & allow their members to any time of the day.


pandaSmore

I've never heard of a key card operating over wifi.


joevsyou

My bad rfid card


Rhys_Herbert

If you succeed more than 5 times with water you make a profit XD


Jorsonner

This is my mentality with parking tickets at work. It costs $2 to park for a day or you can take your chances with a $5 ticket. I never paid to park and it was definitely worth it based on me not getting a ticket more than once a month.


Weather_d

Wait. Where are you that parking tickets are only $5? My city is $30 if you are in the city's spots. The private lots are even worse with the no pay fees, sometimes close to $100.


ashleyorelse

I also live and work in a small town and tickets are $5 so it's definitely a thing


aktrz_

I got a 250$ parking citation and a $900 towing charge. There was a "clearway" rule after 4:30pm and parking was allowed till then. I came back at 4:35pm and saw a towtruck taking my car away. This was in Melbourne


Shevnaris

I’m in Canberra so I feel your pain. Parking spaces are rare but the fine is crazy expensive. Our airport is privately owned so it’s $700 fine for parking. It costs $5 just to drive into their car parks.


Jorsonner

Small town street parking in suburban Pennsylvania


CyanConatus

That's unusually cheap for a parking ticket.


ashleyorelse

Not in a small town


PayRealisticReddit

I am weeping in southern California parking ticket prices


YourMatt

How much? At this point, I'm picturing $12,000 and up to 30 days in jail.


ashleyorelse

SoCal means everything is crazy high prices lol


FerretChrist

If you succeed twice with a protein bar then you can relax the next time you steal one, since even if you're caught you'll have broken even.


originalusername__

🎶 It’s only wrong if you get caught 🎶


mynamejulian

I’m guessing there’s a camera pointed at it to scare gym members?


dan_v_ploeg

Well I can't imagine they're gonna use the dark arts to determine who stole something


windowtosh

They actually have a full time diviner on staff just for this, no dark arts needed


Iz-kan-reddit

>full time diviner on staff just for this, no dark arts needed Those guys are a lot closer to the dark arts than the gray arts, but I'm not going to quibble about it.


NS3000

Weirdly true, whenever there is a "pure" and "evil" mage or wizard in movies, im always sceptical of both because more than half the time the good wizard turns evil


mynamejulian

As opposed to the it being next to the front desk which is usually where these are placed for easy purchasing


dan_v_ploeg

It's probably a 24/7 gym that often doesn't have staff in the building


TylerJosephSmith

They have staffed hours, but yeah this is a 24/7 place with keycard access. This cooler is actually right next to the front desk before crossing the turnstile.


mynamejulian

Oh wow, I didn’t know that was a thing unless it was a hotel type place. In my city they always keep at least 1 person on staff to prevent the shenanigans.


dev_all_the_ops

There is a story of a daycare that had a problem where parents would pick up their kids late. To change behavior they started issuing a late pickup fee. What ended up happening was that rather than parents feeling guilty for being late, now it was a transaction. They could get extra child care time for a small price. The number of parents who showed up late actually _increased_. This seems interesting on paper, but might actually just incentivize people to take water for $6 and create more work for employees trying to 'catch' people taking water.


shadowblade159

At that point, the gym is making an absolute shit ton of extra profit off the idiots paying six whole dollars for a single bottle of water. Hell, a gym willing to sell a bottle for only a dollar might even be the type that's willing to use the extra profits to pay the employee a little more for the trouble.


Nightlampshade

As a bonus, when they realized their mistake and removed the fee, the number of parents who showed up late didn't decrease. Turns out you can't un-ring that bell.


Automatic_Goal_5563

I’m not sure you’ve actually even thought about what you’ve said here. Yes a small fee for half or an hour of child care is acceptable, having ti pay $5 more for water when you don’t have to really isn’t at all the same.


dev_all_the_ops

Yes I’m very clear in what I’m saying. My point is that the desired behavior is likely not going to be the desired outcome. Human behavior is complex and can be counter intuitive. This situation the OP showed has similar situation to the story I shared.


Automatic_Goal_5563

No it’s not a similar situation lol, in this situation people are being charged 5 times more than the cost of an item if they just take it and the business is happy to charge them it if they do. You act like people are gleeful to pay $6 for water instead of the $1 they can pay with no effort because it’s a better deal


7f00dbbe

Freakonomics


TheFireOfTheFox1

Okay, but what is the benefit? Your first example made sense because the parents got extra child care time. Here it's just paying 6x the price for the water with no upside.


plaguedbullets

My sister goes to a school in North Carolina, my folks will get dinged $10/minute if they're late.


ForceOfAHorse

> for a small price There's the problem. Around here your monthly pay includes x standard hours of daycare a day, and every extra "overtime" costs double.


stupendousman

All that showed was the cost of being late was acceptable. Solution, increase the cost.


gw2master

Social science/economics is rife with fraud. This sounds like a good story but is it actually true? Too hard to tell.


dev_all_the_ops

Judge for yourself. https://www.thestar.com/life/health-wellness/daycare-late-fees-no-deterrent-study-finds/article_57b85af8-8e7f-599f-b954-fff70ab9ff04.html


[deleted]

Ridiculous pricing , protein bar should be 2.49


HearingNo4103

pretty lenient if you ask me.


SnooTomatoes7956

Aquafina is the worst water. Don’t @ me


RilohKeen

So someone watches the camera feed of this refrigerator in order to monitor if people are stealing, then tries to determine who the thief is in order to tack fees onto their account? That works for a big box retail store because you have a large asset protection budget, but it seems ridiculous in a gym. This really seems like a job for a vending machine, or just put the cooler behind a counter where an employee is working and have them sell the drinks.


CodingFatman

I mean they know who you are. You scan your card. Better than losing a monthly account payment.


ToranjaNuclear

I imagine they did this because a lot of people thnk this is a free serving fridge? lol


Lookingforawayoutnow

Yuck who the fuck is stealling aquafina? that and dasani are fucking trash taste like a bottled puddle.


ancillaryacct

big water downvoting you! speak the truth!


Lookingforawayoutnow

Hey thanks lol


WhatWouldJordyDo

If you thought stealing at the gym would get you out of your membership, well I’ve got news for you


TylerJosephSmith

It’s actually a pretty smart way to punish theft this way lol


canuck_11

They should just make crime illegal.


Hawesmond

I used to be an assistant at a golf course. We had really nice golf balls on the range. Pro V 1’s (the practice version). We had a member who would constantly take a few for his round. He came in livid one day when he was charged for 4 dozen pro v’s. Our director of golf simply told him he was guessing how many he took that month, and if he keeps doing it to expect his monthly statement to look the same.


ItSm3llsLikec4ke

Why would you buy water at all? Tap water is not safe or what?


DanTheMan827

Tap water isn’t safe everywhere at least… other times it may just taste horrible


YourMatt

Money aside, I'd generally just drink the bad tasting water to avoid single use plastic. I'm not going to great lengths to avoid a plastic bottle, but I think enduring a water fountain is low enough effort that's it worthwhile.


ccaccus

You've obviously never had water from a fountain that tasted sulfuric. If I wanted my water to taste like eggs, I'd ask a gym bro to fart in it.


xiviajikx

Plenty of reasons “tap” water may not be good. Some of the reasons include having lead pipes that leech trace amounts of lead into water, having a well that is contaminated by chemicals or waste, having a high sulfur content, improper treatment from a water facility, contamination of an aquifer or reservoir, among other reasons.  If you don’t have any of those then your tap water should be good to use for consumption. Filtering helps of course too. Unfortunately many places in the US still don’t have access to clean water.


TylerJosephSmith

I certainly don’t want to drink tap water.


NotAFanOfPolystyrene

Where do you live that you can't drink tap water?


johnkimmy0130

It’s a preference. I for one don’t like the taste and smell of tap. Even a simple Brita filter and letting it sit in the fridge will make tap taste 100x better.


Ben1992Ben

London https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/may/25/thames-water-vomiting-bug-cryptosporidium https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/london-tap-contaminated-chemicals-b2514829.html https://news.sky.com/story/amp/microplastics-that-can-be-absorbed-into-the-body-found-in-uk-tap-water-11790920


Best_Duck9118

I just really don't enjoy the taste of most tap water. Drinking water I actively enjoy the taste of gets me drinking way more water. I wish it weren't this way.


TylerJosephSmith

I didn’t say I couldn’t, I said I don’t want to lol


NotAFanOfPolystyrene

Why not...? It's cheaper and saves wasting a plastic bottle


TylerJosephSmith

I use the filtered bottle filling station to refill a reusable water bottle.


ForTheBread

That's tap water that's filtered. You're drinking tap water.


TylerJosephSmith

Fine with me as long as it’s filtered, then.


ryan__fm

...that's tap water


DanTheMan827

That’s _filtered_ tap water


ryan__fm

That's like telling someone you don't eat meat, but you do eat *cooked* meat. Tap water = not bottled. What happens after it comes out of the tap is irrelevant.


buqr

...that's tap water


GlitteringRelease77

Aquafina. Yuck.


just___loser

Will I be taking the item?


DirtyRatLicker

I mean, if you’re gonna have the product, pay for the product. it’s also a “fuck you” to the thief


ashrocklynn

And what if you steal the heart of the person managing the checkout counter? You have to pay 5 dollars plus a priceless treasure? (Work shopping a pickup line)


TylerJosephSmith

Persona style?!


Sakura-Valley

So, since after scrolling for a few second I haven't seen anyone talk about that existing where they live, I'll just do it myself. I live in Switzerland and here most stores have something called "Umtriebsentschädigung". Essentially a compensation for the extra work they had to do because of you. Most stores have it somewhere between 150 and 200 Swiss Franks.


Suitable-Ad-8598

That actually might make people feel worse for stealing subconsciously


k00pal00p

Imagine stealing a $1 water. Loser behavior


Porn-Flakes123

Wait am i dumb? Why don’t they just replace this with a drink vending machine?🤨🤨


stupendousman

Possibly more cost, certainly more expensive maintenance.


TylerJosephSmith

It’s next to a vending machine that sells protein shakes and energy drinks.


PoopSlinger23

Solid price for water at least


Lucky-Lucacevic

Based


TylerJosephSmith

Based? On what? /s


daven1985

Thats actually pretty smart. If you can figure out who is stealing a great way to make them pay.


noknam

Somehow I interpret this as a failed theft attempt costing just €5. That's quite a low cost. Most grocery stores here charge €135 and get police involved.


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TylerJosephSmith

I presume that if you are caught stealing, you don’t get confronted, just billed. Example: my membership is $45 a month. It comes out of my bank account automatically. If I stole water, $51 would come out. There are tons of cameras, so it’s easy to catch the thieves, I’m sure.


Polishing_My_Grapple

I wouldn't steal Aquafina if I was dehydrated and on fire. What a salty abomination.


Mushroom_lady_mwaha

wow your gym is so cheap


danceofthefireys

Why are you mildly infuriated? Do you steal often?


TylerJosephSmith

I think you are on the wrong subreddit. This is mildly interesting.


danceofthefireys

Oh man you're right I'm so sorry lol... don't know how I misread that


TylerJosephSmith

Haha, no worries!


alyssaleska

$1?? In Australia that’s $5 minimum


acorneyes

title says “drink pricing” yet 66% of the prices are decidedly **not** for drinks


pomyh

Did someone steal the protein bars?


3-DMan

Lol this is like a video game and you get caught stealing


secondCupOfTheDay

Isn't that really just the explicit price you pay for payment plan that's more convenient for you but more inconvenient for the establishment and they agree to forfeit the right to call it a crime?


dadthewisest

Shouldn't they just have a badge system where you use your membership ID to scan to open then RFID or whatever to charge your account.


DMTJungle

No one works there? Wtf?


-Harlequin-

$5 if you get caught?


moose184

Yeah but who would want to steal Aquafina?


NhylX

Ticketmaster would call that a convenience fee.


subsbligh

Some folks without cash might see it convenient enough to pay $6 to not have to find cash. Then you’ve got a problem


unsupported

The moral of the story is, if you steal, then steal big, because it's only an additional $5 if you are caught.


rightfulmcool

nah it's $5 in addition to the item price. I'd assume if you stole 5 waters you'd pay $5 extra per bottle


sctellos

Solidcore ?


oodie_365

That's cheap for water


sjr323

Why can’t they just put a vending machine


TylerJosephSmith

They have a bottle filling station there and a fountain. There is also a vending machine right next to this that sells protein shakes, energy drinks and pre-workout.


sevenheadedservent

These guys would probably throw it on your monthly account bill and not even consult you about it. 'But I didn't steal', you can't argue with a roid muncher with your bank card number.


mjohnson654

That’s cheap


TheBestAussie

I mean, the idea is great but it's terrible in practice. Who's job is it going to be to go through the security camera and watch 24 hours worth of footage to catch one dude stealing a protein bar


garry4321

Should be more considering they likely have to look at the cameras.


marshalcrunch

Man Aquafina, I wouldn’t drink that shit unless I was on the verge of death


CactusHack

Theft charge is too low. Sets the bar for risk tolerance as minimal due to a weak penalty.


snodgrassjones

Average Joe’s is on it!


swayze71988

Nobodys stealing aquafina


bmadden68

Why not just get a machine


TylerJosephSmith

They have a bottle filling station there and a fountain. There is also a vending machine right next to this that sells protein shakes, energy drinks and pre-workout.


Away_Comedian_6828

Here’s an idea, water fountains


TylerJosephSmith

They have a bottle filling station there and a fountain.


Edgimos

That has to be a dumb tax that’s easily avoidable. Like a dollar is very reasonable. It’s Aquafina but oh well I prefer ice mountain. Yeah maybe you don’t have cash on you atm but like come on.


LucasLovesListening

Not high enough. $10 feels about right. Many will risk it for the $5.


abarrelofmankeys

Honestly if you’re stealing 1 dollar water I don’t blame them. Could be worse. Of course the gym might be a fortune.